SexLab Hormones (January 2025)

[DeepBlueFrog]

Not bitching so much as curious, but is there a reason that you didn't use racecompatibiliity.esm for the bimbo race?

 

I didn't think about it to be honest.

 

And even if I did, I would not have used it directly on Hormones. I wouldn't want to add yet another dependency right now.

 

It is an interesting idea. Maybe it could be rewritten as an add-on if I had a lot more time but I spent enough time on Hormones recently as it is.

[foreveraloneguy]

Well, I can redo the race easily enough if you just modify the scripts to look for something like "hormones bimbo" or whatever you want to call it, then enable the bimbo stuff in the MCM. Kind of how you do the SoS stuff (which I really wish you'd rewrite to use equipable schlongs instead of the full SoS, but that's another whinge). I'd also have to pull all the bimbo stuff out of the main esp.... But really, pretty much everyone has race compatibility I'd wager, especially users on here.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Well, I can redo the race easily enough if you just modify the scripts to look for something like "hormones bimbo" or whatever you want to call it, then enable the bimbo stuff in the MCM. Kind of how you do the SoS stuff (which I really wish you'd rewrite to use equipable schlongs instead of the full SoS, but that's another whinge). I'd also have to pull all the bimbo stuff out of the main esp.... But really, pretty much everyone has race compatibility I'd wager, especially users on here.

 

I don't

[foreveraloneguy]

 

Well, I can redo the race easily enough if you just modify the scripts to look for something like "hormones bimbo" or whatever you want to call it, then enable the bimbo stuff in the MCM. Kind of how you do the SoS stuff (which I really wish you'd rewrite to use equipable schlongs instead of the full SoS, but that's another whinge). I'd also have to pull all the bimbo stuff out of the main esp.... But really, pretty much everyone has race compatibility I'd wager, especially users on here.

 

I don't

 

 

Well, one of us is right... So let me know if you ever want me to convert the bimbo race to a stand alone plugin. I at least know how to do that.

[Shadowscale]

What I meant earlier is that having sex with the bimbo or dremora outcast makes your character a bimbo in conversation topics even when bimbo isn't checked. Race stays whatever you last were so in my case Argonian male to female. Curing bimbo reverted back to male. Asked Dremora outcast to change my sex then did it once more to transgender my character.

[Caliban44]

 

Well, I can redo the race easily enough if you just modify the scripts to look for something like "hormones bimbo" or whatever you want to call it, then enable the bimbo stuff in the MCM. Kind of how you do the SoS stuff (which I really wish you'd rewrite to use equipable schlongs instead of the full SoS, but that's another whinge). I'd also have to pull all the bimbo stuff out of the main esp.... But really, pretty much everyone has race compatibility I'd wager, especially users on here.

 

I don't

 

 

i dont use it either as i just use the default races, never saw any reason to use a non default skyrim race

 

[foreveraloneguy]

Not sure if I found a problem, or I'm just doing it wrong.... Let Serana turn me into a vampire, did the "set default shape" option, but scaling doesn't work afterwards. I can reset all changes, but that's it. No matter how I set the other sliders, doing an apply changes doesn't change anything. I'm bretonracevampire at this point. Maybe related to the previous bug where only nords had scaling applied?

[silentdark]

I've found falmer blue effect, spriggan green skin and hair loss doesn't seem to work in the new version.

[Para]

 

Yes the last version with clean install. It seems to work for male pc but not for female.

 

If you are already female, that is a bug I have to fix.

 

Edit: It was indeed a bug and it will be fixed in the next update.

 

I hope you get it to work. I'm pausing on playing the game now because I need it for the story I'm playing.

[thebarbarian09]

Heya, I'm trying out the whole sex change quest thing and I was curious exactly what changes occur after the change. Assuming I don't have the bimbo bit checked and MtF, I had questions like:

1) When you change, do the weight and/or nodes default to a certain size?

2)If the transgender is checked, how exactly is the schlong affected? Does it actually decrease with every sex act or does it just disappear after a set time?

 

3)If you start the Succubus quest while still female, does it lock you into becoming a Succubus?

 

The reason I ask is I just want to establish the "expected" behavior so I can look for anomalies in conjunction with other mods.

[joemonco]

I like the pro-life lecture you get from the dremora outcasts when you ask to be cured while pregnant.  It's a nice touch.

[kermit24]

First i love the bimbofication feature, really great work!

 

I got my PC cursed and turned into a bimbo, everything works fine so far, but i noticed that the skill debuffs are irreversible even after i finished the quest with the deadra heart and got turned into my normal PC again.

 

Is this a intended hardcore-consequence of the bimbo-curse or a bug?

[DeepBlueFrog]

Not sure if I found a problem, or I'm just doing it wrong.... Let Serana turn me into a vampire, did the "set default shape" option, but scaling doesn't work afterwards. I can reset all changes, but that's it. No matter how I set the other sliders, doing an apply changes doesn't change anything. I'm bretonracevampire at this point. Maybe related to the previous bug where only nords had scaling applied?

 

I have not tested Hormones much with Vampires to begin with. And after the latest rewrite, it is not surprising some issues could have been introduced. 

I will need more testing for that one.

 

I've found falmer blue effect, spriggan green skin and hair loss doesn't seem to work in the new version.

 

That's already known thanks.. and already fixed in the next version of SD+.

 

Heya, I'm trying out the whole sex change quest thing and I was curious exactly what changes occur after the change. Assuming I don't have the bimbo bit checked and MtF, I had questions like:

 

1) When you change, do the weight and/or nodes default to a certain size?

 

2)If the transgender is checked, how exactly is the schlong affected? Does it actually decrease with every sex act or does it just disappear after a set time?

 

3)If you start the Succubus quest while still female, does it lock you into becoming a Succubus?

 

The reason I ask is I just want to establish the "expected" behavior so I can look for anomalies in conjunction with other mods.

 

1) Breasts are set to 0 and growing. Schlongs are set to 1 and shrinking. They should get to a stable size after 5 days.

 

2) Change in size happens at midnight.

 

3) Succubus locks you in only once you become a true succubus.. after 10 or 15 sex acts with dremoras I think.

 

 

I like the pro-life lecture you get from the dremora outcasts when you ask to be cured while pregnant.  It's a nice touch.

 

It wasn't so much pro-life as an immersive way to say 'I don't know how to stop pregnancy if you turn into a male again, so better not change anything until you are done'.

 

First i love the bimbofication feature, really great work!

 

I got my PC cursed and turned into a bimbo, everything works fine so far, but i noticed that the skill debuffs are irreversible even after i finished the quest with the deadra heart and got turned into my normal PC again.

 

Is this a intended hardcore-consequence of the bimbo-curse or a bug?

 

It's mostly a bug. I thought I restored the values when you are cured but apparently, there is still work to be done.

[Caliban44]

 

I don't know about anyone else but when my toon becomes a bimbo her hair does not change color, I have to do it manually
 

[Shadowscale]

There a way to change the head model to properly female other than changing the sex in racemenu?

 

Edit: Further clarification. I use Citrus Head. When sex change curse happens my character becomes female body wise, but head still is male.

 

Edit 2: Figured out I could deactivate the bimbo conversation options. Feel kinda silly now.

[Monoman1]

Just fyi. Was getting mini freezes, drops of frame rate from 60 to 40ish just staring at a wall in an inside cell with 'Enable node updates' and 'shape change override'. I should have had them off anyway (RTFM). But just to let you know it might be a thing if people starting complaining. Curiously, I turned the settings back on and the dips didn't come back. I'll will set them off though now like I should have had

[Monoman1]

Hmm, new problem. Is anything know to fight with Hormones for skin color? My characters body is changing color but hands, feet and face are staying the same...

[ScorpiusX]

try changing footwear, gloves etc. that worked for me. you can swap back to your original gloves boots etc afterwards.

 

[Shadowscale]

Was there a way for Sexlab to count Estrus caused by Estrus Mimics or the shout to count as a sex act?

[grifterrik]

I've been playing quite a bit with the mod (mostly the bimbo) and I'm totally loving it.  I've noticed a few things, some of which you're likely aware, but wanted to let you know.  I think you said you were moving on to work on something else for a bit, so this is just for whenever 

 

Like someone else said a page or several back, scaling doesn't work with vampires.  I had a non-bimbo toon become a vamp (I have vampiric thirst) and no scaling happened.  I even used the "apply changes" button after setting the scales drastically higher, and got no change.  So, just confirming!

 

I've run into some issues with the scaling.  Sometimes i'll get the message about feeling more voluptuous, and yet the boobies get smaller.  Easy enough to fix on the fly thanks to the MCM options provided, and it doesn't happen everyday so I haven't found a common cause.  Along the same lines, if I don't get to bed before midnight, sometimes I get a reverse-scaling effect after sleeping.  It goes like this... tons of sex, midnight happens and "you feel more voluptuous", then go to sleep with no more sex and "you feel more focused."  Is there any way to split the update on sleep and update on day from each other?  Currently they are grouped as one option in the MCM.

 

The last thing is that if I disable bimbo, yet have sex with dremora/sanguine, I still get Forcibly Blonde started, and the racemenu pops up, even though it doesn't change the toon into a bimbo.  I think that might have been mentioned before but I didn't see it again on a cursory search.

 

Curing bimbo and adding a cock and the succubus all went off perfectly.

 

Its tons of fun, like all your mods (well, I haven't gotten around to trying stories yet).  I really dig all the customization options in Hormones and SD.  I'm a big fan of your work, thanks so much! 

[RogueMage]

@grifterrik:

Ah, that's what is happening. I just browsed the forum because of schrinking breasts, butt and belly. When I started my character i had another daily routine and all seemed to work fine with the scaling. But now my breasts are only shrinking. There is definetly still someting wrong with the scaling-update/-calculation. My character is a normal human (no succubus, bimbo, curses). I am using Beeing Female, Bathing in Skyrim, Apropos, SlaveTats and I am going to try Realistic Needs and Diseases with the Sexlab plugin.

[foreveraloneguy]

I wanted to poke around and see if I could figure out why scaling isn't applying to my vampire, but I'm just getting errors about missing store class, missing variable, a few others. I added sexlab_hormones.bsa to my SResourceArchiveList2 in skyrimeditor.ini. That's all I remember having to do previously to mess with stuff like this. Did I miss something?

[DeepBlueFrog]

I wanted to poke around and see if I could figure out why scaling isn't applying to my vampire, but I'm just getting errors about missing store class, missing variable, a few others. I added sexlab_hormones.bsa to my SResourceArchiveList2 in skyrimeditor.ini. That's all I remember having to do previously to mess with stuff like this. Did I miss something?

 

Adding the bsa is not necessary for edits.

 

You have to make sure you are set up for scripting with sexlab and related requirements for Hormones.

 

For that, you will have to unpack loose files for:

 

- SKSE

- SKYUI

- SexLab Aroused

- SexLab of course

[foreveraloneguy]

 

I wanted to poke around and see if I could figure out why scaling isn't applying to my vampire, but I'm just getting errors about missing store class, missing variable, a few others. I added sexlab_hormones.bsa to my SResourceArchiveList2 in skyrimeditor.ini. That's all I remember having to do previously to mess with stuff like this. Did I miss something?

 

Adding the bsa is not necessary for edits.

 

You have to make sure you are set up for scripting with sexlab and related requirements for Hormones.

 

For that, you will have to unpack loose files for:

 

- SKSE

- SKYUI

- SexLab Aroused

- SexLab of course

 

 

Yeah, I missed adding sexlab aroused. Got it working...

 

Anyway, I really think it's related to to the checks against _SLH_fOrigRace. I can't find the actual function that does the reset from the MCM menu. Which script is that in? And out of curiosity, why does it even matter? Wouldn't it just be easier to use whatever race the player currently is and not worry about what race they were originally?

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

I wanted to poke around and see if I could figure out why scaling isn't applying to my vampire, but I'm just getting errors about missing store class, missing variable, a few others. I added sexlab_hormones.bsa to my SResourceArchiveList2 in skyrimeditor.ini. That's all I remember having to do previously to mess with stuff like this. Did I miss something?

 

Adding the bsa is not necessary for edits.

 

You have to make sure you are set up for scripting with sexlab and related requirements for Hormones.

 

For that, you will have to unpack loose files for:

 

- SKSE

- SKYUI

- SexLab Aroused

- SexLab of course

 

 

Yeah, I missed adding sexlab aroused. Got it working...

 

Anyway, I really think it's related to to the checks against _SLH_fOrigRace. I can't find the actual function that does the reset from the MCM menu. Which script is that in? And out of curiosity, why does it even matter? Wouldn't it just be easier to use whatever race the player currently is and not worry about what race they were originally?

 

 

It does matter because there is no guarantee the new race you are using has the right nodes or similar settings as the original race.

 

Did you try using the 'Set default shape' option?

 

I added it for that purpose... to tell Hormones this is the shape you want updated from now on.