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How does the indebted quest work? I took a loan of 5000 septims (i set limit of 7000 septims with 10% interest in MCM) from Solitude InnKeeper. I left Solitude, and after 24 hours, the amount payable increased, I wanted for next day, but amount is still same, does not increase at all. I repaid the money to innkeeper and took loan again to restart quest, same thing happened again where it only increased for day 1, but on day 2,3,4,x it's stuck and innkeeper dont put any bounty on me.

 

Is there a way I can reset the entire mod mid playthough?

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On 9/17/2023 at 10:18 AM, Bratty Cheeks - RMCW said:

 

1) Have you got ConsoleUtil? I use it here to put the player to sleep for an hour or two.

 

2) I haven't changed anything with placement, it is random and you might just have got unlucky there. I might have a look at that.

 

3) mf_handler.pex is RPs core script file, it always has been. mf_ is the prefix for this mod. I have no idea why that is included in OSL aroused but make sure you overwrite with this mod.

 

4) I'll re-test this but as far as I'm aware it works, make sure you have threesome animations.

 

5) I don't understand the issue here?

 

6) Different locations can give different quests. Try bannered mare for that one. If I'm testing a particular quest I need to recompile MCM script currently.

Wanted to add that I've also had the freezing issue with All the Kings Horses as stated in the first point. It happens only when the dialog mentions fainting or blacking out. When using copious amounts of save/reloading it looks like every other dialog outcome works well for this quest. It's also worth noting that I've not seen the companion quest pop up at all (I've been using the Whiterun inn for testing in general), though I wasn't fishing specifically for it so it's entirely possible it was bad luck on my end. 

I of course can't speak for others but I've had ConsolUtil the whole time. I've tried shuffling RP around the load order, as well as disabling many mods I felt could have a chance of conflict but no luck.  I even went as far as a creating a bare minimum modlist to test this out and it still would freeze at the same point. Maybe there is a version issue somewhere? I'm running 1.6.640 with everything updated to match afaik.  Don't really know enough about the technical side of things to know if that would even make sense in this case but figured it worth a mention. 

For the time being, getting around the problem is simple enough with save scumming to avoid the problematic dialog since the rest works fine. 

 

Also just wanted to say I only recently stumbled across this mod and am glad to see someone has taken interest in doing something with it. As far as suggestions go, I'll never complain about more group content (3p+, gangbangs, etc) or creature content. Nothing specific to request, just an overall suggestion. 

Posted

Hey, is there a way to switch the animation type when u play as a Futa?
The mod triggers lesbian animations automatically when servicing female patrons but is there a way to change it into "straight" animations?

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@Bratty Cheeks - RMCW, first of all, many thanks for taking on the mod. I was really glad to bump up against this topic a day ago and to find out that the mod is still supported.

I compared MCM menu of the mod version I have (5.0 for LE) and the latest version published by you (8.1.1 LE as of today) and have the following questions:

(1) Radiant Prostitution > PC Settings > Stripping sub-menu disappeared with all its options (Player Minimal Stripping, Client Minimal Stripping, Use Beds).

Am I right that from now on these options are defined as per Sexlab settings only?

(2) Radiant Prostitution > PC Settings > Player Detection sub-menu disappeared with all its options (Aggro Distance, Scan Interval, Overall probability etc.)

I saw your reply on the reason of its removal:

On 9/17/2023 at 12:14 AM, Bratty Cheeks - RMCW said:

Unfortunately my fix for the approach system was just to remove it as an option, as keeping it would have taken so much time and testing; personally I think approach is not great,

I wouldn't say that I will miss it too much as in its present state it works a bit... strange, let's call it that.

Nevertheless, am I right that you are not planning to fix it in the future (even in the far future)?

(3) Radiant Prostitution > PC Settings > Reward Setting > Sex Duration for full Reward option disappeared.

I saw your reply on the reason of its removal:

On 8/22/2023 at 4:13 PM, Bratty Cheeks - RMCW said:

 

Overwrite this mod with OSL aroused. Looking at it the file should no longer be necessary now I've moved satisfaction over to using orgasms. I will remove the conflicting file in the next version.

Am I right that you are not planning to use sex duration as an option anymore?

I would suggest to use it as a reward modifier: the longer is the period spent with the PC in animations, the higher will be the reward.

(4) Radiant Prostitution > PC Settings > Reward Setting > Female PC Gold Bonus option disappeared.

Not an issue for me but just a matter of interest: why did you removed them?

(5) Radiant Prostitution > PC Settings > Reward Setting > Female PC Gold Bonus option disappeared.

See the Question # 4.

(6) Radiant Prostitution > PC Settings > Reward Setting > Tip modifier option appeared.

What is it for?

(7) Radiant Prostitution > PC settings > Indebted Settings sub-menu appeared.

Am I right that the debt will not be the same as a fine for offenses (i. e. a debt will not trigger arrest by guards)?

(8) Radiant Prostitution > Quest Settings > Utility > Panic buttons option disappeared.

However, Radiant Prostitution > Quest Settings > Utility > Release Freeroam Client option appeared.

Is it just renaming or something new? If the latter, what situation is this option intended for?

(9) Radiant Prostitution > Quest Settings > Free Roaming Prostitution sub-menu now consists only of one option ()Restrict to current Innkeepers town).

From the previous posts in this topic I understood that something was wrong with Multiple Bonus and Max Repetitions.

What was wrong with Guards can solicit player? This option also disappeared from the sub-menu.

(10) Radiant Prostitution > Quest Settings > Home Delivery Quest > Home Delivery Guest option appeared.

Am I right that with [number]% chance an additional NPC will appear in the destination cell? Or is it a chance for triggering of Guest of Honor variant instead of ordinary Home Delivery?

(11) Radiant Prostitution > Quest Settings > Home Delivery Quest > Clients male option appeared.

As I understand from the description of this option in MCM, depending on the checkbox selected or not all client will me male or all clients will be female.

So, mixed sets of clients are not supposed?

(12) Radiant Prostitution > NPC Events > Utility > Panic button option appeared.

This option is for NPCs only, isn't it?

(13) Radiant Prostitution >Working clothes page has the following notifications: "Ignore this page, I disabled it (RM)", "It's no longer required as the approach mode ha"

"Has been removed", I guess.

Why didn't you removed this page completely then? Note: maybe you've already answered this question (wholly or partially) answering the Question #2.

 

And one more question.

I have the following issue with the version of the mod I've had until today. I didn't have enough time to check how it works in the version you published, but didn't find any mention abut this problem in the topic, so the issue probably still exists.

This issue is that slaves from Paradise Halls - And You Get a Slave can also order Home Delivery. However:

(1) it breaks immersion (I guess that by the logic of the mod this type of NPCs isn't allowed to take such decisions),

(2) it's not possible to complete the quest as the slaves don't have the proper dialogue.

Could you remove this type of NPC from the list of potential customers for Home Delivery but make it possible for them to participate in action if the delivery was ordered by their owner?

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Posted

What about the Sexlab Approach approach?

It would be really great if this new RP could interact with the Sexlab Approach:)

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from Simple Slavery Plus Plus

quest is over but the items do not come back.

 

Do I need to go back to Riften to get them?

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Hi,

 

Having some issues with the home delivery quests, "Bet your sweet Ass" quest starts no problem, approach the the target dialogue works and when the target says such my cock no scene plays and the quest refuses to move forward.

 

 

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 I've got this running with SLSO and I can't seem to bring any clients to orgasm. Maybe 3 out of like 15 clients have finished satisfied. Other sex interactions from other mods seem to work fine. Does my character just suck at sex (new char and playthrough), or am I doing something wrong or are there any potential mod conflicts causing this?

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Any idea how the autonomous NPC prostitution system works? I've found it to be unreliable in all versions I've tried, and wonder if you've tweaked it in any way. Would love to see the frequency of "a wench is on a job" messages increased... Maybe even setting it up in the MCM? In my games I usually try "every trick in the book" to try and raise the chances - add keywords to outfits, NPCs, inns and taverns; adding Sanctified Amulets of Dibella to NPCs, remove schedule (making it possible 24/7) etc... Still it's so rare to see this, it probably happens once every 100 hours or so. I couldn't figure out exactly which quest commands this behaviour - would have tried to make it have a higher priority, since other behaviours, especially from running mods like ICAIO, may be taking precedence... Having experienced Romance of NPCs in a previous run with flowergirls, I truly miss the reliability, as that mod ensured I'd witness at least one autonomous NPC scene a day, perhaps more. Different mods, this one being more restricted to trade sex - but even with that restriction, it would be so good to see it happen with the same predictability as RoN...

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Hello, Bratty!

Thank you for the fixes, but I've a question about the customers soliciting the PC services you've suppressed. Not a problem if I must looking for clients, but I've added manually some female NPCs at the inns with sexy clothes to act as a whores, and registered in that clothes the "jobwhore" keyword, so randomly an inn's customer solicit that whore's services starting an sexlab anim. That feature is also stop working with you modification?

Thank you so much again!

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Does the autonomous prostitution of NPCs (promote self-employment quest) require that the client be above a certain arousal threshold? That would explain why my test runs fail consistently to produce "a wench is on a job" events... If that is so, a quick fix for places like the Kinky Princess or the Rift's Rest could be to add a revealing outfit keyword (from Aroused) to their, indeed, revealing outfits? I'm guessing that would help keep a steady arousal progress on any NPCs inside. Another possible issue would if the NPC soliciting the prostitute is required to actually have the necessary amount of gold on their person?

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On 9/28/2023 at 5:08 PM, HanSulu said:

I of course can't speak for others but I've had ConsolUtil the whole time. I've tried shuffling RP around the load order, as well as disabling many mods I felt could have a chance of conflict but no luck.  I even went as far as a creating a bare minimum modlist to test this out and it still would freeze at the same point. Maybe there is a version issue somewhere? I'm running 1.6.640 with everything updated to match afaik.  Don't really know enough about the technical side of things to know if that would even make sense in this case but figured it worth a mention. 

 

I think I'll just remove the sleep on feint I added, if it's causing issues for some people. Thanks for letting me know.

 

On 9/28/2023 at 9:01 AM, Kruggar said:

How does the indebted quest work? I took a loan of 5000 septims (i set limit of 7000 septims with 10% interest in MCM) from Solitude InnKeeper. I left Solitude, and after 24 hours, the amount payable increased, I wanted for next day, but amount is still same, does not increase at all. I repaid the money to innkeeper and took loan again to restart quest, same thing happened again where it only increased for day 1, but on day 2,3,4,x it's stuck and innkeeper dont put any bounty on me.

 

Is there a way I can reset the entire mod mid playthough?

 

Not really any way to reset the mod completely, but unless you have scripts failing to complete it wouldn't matter.

 

I will investigate this issue and see if I can reproduce.

 

On 9/28/2023 at 8:36 PM, KinkyMoose said:

Hey, is there a way to switch the animation type when u play as a Futa?
The mod triggers lesbian animations automatically when servicing female patrons but is there a way to change it into "straight" animations?

 

See here: 

 

On 10/2/2023 at 12:10 PM, MattTheRagdoll said:

Having some issues with the home delivery quests, "Bet your sweet Ass" quest starts no problem, approach the the target dialogue works and when the target says such my cock no scene plays and the quest refuses to move forward.

 

 

 

Someone else reported issue with this quest too, I'll get it fixed in the next update. Reset quests in MCM to continue for now, the particular quest doesn't trigger very often at all.

 

On 10/1/2023 at 7:10 AM, a117 said:

What about the Sexlab Approach approach?

It would be really great if this new RP could interact with the Sexlab Approach:)

 

Perhaps, at some point, as I already integrated SLHH.

 

On 10/1/2023 at 8:10 AM, a117 said:

from Simple Slavery Plus Plus

quest is over but the items do not come back.

 

Do I need to go back to Riften to get them?

 

This mod doesn't take your items, neither does SS++. Whatever mod sent you to SL++ likely took your items?

 

On 10/3/2023 at 9:00 PM, DarthCheney said:

 I've got this running with SLSO and I can't seem to bring any clients to orgasm. Maybe 3 out of like 15 clients have finished satisfied. Other sex interactions from other mods seem to work fine. Does my character just suck at sex (new char and playthrough), or am I doing something wrong or are there any potential mod conflicts causing this?

 

Your character likely has bad sex stats, try different configurations in SLSO until you get it working to your liking. You may find it's quick in aggressive animations but not in consensual for example because of stats but it is possible to get it working well.

 

On 10/5/2023 at 8:05 AM, Mike-Long said:

That feature is also stop working with you modification?

 

That still should work, I am yet to modify it at all other than swapping the way it interacts with SL, NPC whore scenes need to be activated in the MCM by default now though.
 

On 10/4/2023 at 3:29 AM, petronius said:

Any idea how the autonomous NPC prostitution system works? 

 

I will have a look at it at some point but it's not at the top of my priorities.

 

On 10/6/2023 at 6:01 PM, duy123a said:

Just a small request, can you add a MCM option to show/hide when other NPCs are whoring.

 

I'm not sure what this means? 

 

12 hours ago, petronius said:

Does the autonomous prostitution of NPCs (promote self-employment quest) require that the client be above a certain arousal threshold? That would explain why my test runs fail consistently to produce "a wench is on a job" events... If that is so, a quick fix for places like the Kinky Princess or the Rift's Rest could be to add a revealing outfit keyword (from Aroused) to their, indeed, revealing outfits? I'm guessing that would help keep a steady arousal progress on any NPCs inside. Another possible issue would if the NPC soliciting the prostitute is required to actually have the necessary amount of gold on their person?

 

I'll have to have a look at it, it doesn't use arousal though.

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On 9/29/2023 at 11:03 PM, VVilly said:

(1) Radiant Prostitution > PC Settings > Stripping sub-menu disappeared with all its options (Player Minimal Stripping, Client Minimal Stripping, Use Beds).

Am I right that from now on these options are defined as per Sexlab settings only?

 

Yeah that's right. The way previous versions of the mod interacted with SL allowed for it but it was interacting with SL in a way not recommended and unsupported by SLP+ .

 

On 9/29/2023 at 11:03 PM, VVilly said:

(2) Radiant Prostitution > PC Settings > Player Detection sub-menu disappeared with all its options (Aggro Distance, Scan Interval, Overall probability etc.)

I saw your reply on the reason of its removal:

I wouldn't say that I will miss it too much as in its present state it works a bit... strange, let's call it that.

Nevertheless, am I right that you are not planning to fix it in the future (even in the far future)?

 

I won't add it back to the mod in the way it was implemented but I may one day add a new approach feature.

 

On 9/29/2023 at 11:03 PM, VVilly said:

(3) Radiant Prostitution > PC Settings > Reward Setting > Sex Duration for full Reward option disappeared.

I saw your reply on the reason of its removal:

Am I right that you are not planning to use sex duration as an option anymore?

I would suggest to use it as a reward modifier: the longer is the period spent with the PC in animations, the higher will be the reward.

 

I'm not using duration anymore no. The non-static modifiers are 1 random modifier, 2 RP rank, 3 SL stats and 4 orgasms now. I don't think it needs to be more complicated than that. Max reward on 3 orgasms (player or NPC). NPC orgasm required in most scenes to not fail. If you are not using SLSO then you'll always have 2 orgasms (or 3 in a group scenario). 

 

On 9/29/2023 at 11:03 PM, VVilly said:

(4) + (5) Radiant Prostitution > PC Settings > Reward Setting > Female PC Gold Bonus option disappeared.

Not an issue for me but just a matter of interest: why did you removed them?

 

Just to simplify the MCM, I couldn't see any purpose when there is already a base gold modifier.

 

On 9/29/2023 at 11:03 PM, VVilly said:

(6) Radiant Prostitution > PC Settings > Reward Setting > Tip modifier option appeared.

What is it for?

 

I found this confusing and other users have too so I'll rename it. It's the modifier for the table service (food) job.

 

On 9/29/2023 at 11:03 PM, VVilly said:

(7) Radiant Prostitution > PC settings > Indebted Settings sub-menu appeared.

Am I right that the debt will not be the same as a fine for offenses (i. e. a debt will not trigger arrest by guards)?

 

If you take out a loan and the loan reaches 4x what you initially borrowed, you will fail the quest and will get more than that amount as a fine so it will trigger arrest by guards if you don't pay the loan back before it reaches that point.

 

On 9/29/2023 at 11:03 PM, VVilly said:

(8) Radiant Prostitution > Quest Settings > Utility > Panic buttons option disappeared.

However, Radiant Prostitution > Quest Settings > Utility > Release Freeroam Client option appeared.

 

Release freeroam client was added in a previous version of this mod, I didn't add it. I removed the panic buttons because they didn't do anything at all. Release freeroam client stops your current client from following.

 

On 9/29/2023 at 11:03 PM, VVilly said:

(9) Radiant Prostitution > Quest Settings > Free Roaming Prostitution sub-menu now consists only of one option ()Restrict to current Innkeepers town).

From the previous posts in this topic I understood that something was wrong with Multiple Bonus and Max Repetitions.

What was wrong with Guards can solicit player? This option also disappeared from the sub-menu.

 

If it's not there I'll add it back, I can't remember removing it.

 

On 9/29/2023 at 11:03 PM, VVilly said:

(10) Radiant Prostitution > Quest Settings > Home Delivery Quest > Home Delivery Guest option appeared.

Am I right that with [number]% chance an additional NPC will appear in the destination cell? Or is it a chance for triggering of Guest of Honor variant instead of ordinary Home Delivery?

 

 

I didn't add that either. It is chances on variant I believe but I'd have to check.

 

On 9/29/2023 at 11:03 PM, VVilly said:

(11) Radiant Prostitution > Quest Settings > Home Delivery Quest > Clients male option appeared.

As I understand from the description of this option in MCM, depending on the checkbox selected or not all client will me male or all clients will be female.

So, mixed sets of clients are not supposed?

 

Not at the moment, it's one or the other. Implementing a both option would require me to do this a bit differently.

 

On 9/29/2023 at 11:03 PM, VVilly said:

(12) Radiant Prostitution > NPC Events > Utility > Panic button option appeared.

This option is for NPCs only, isn't it?

 

Is there still a panic button on there? I'd have to check. If there is I'll remove it. Again, these buttons do absolutely nothing other than bring up a message on previous versions.

 

On 9/29/2023 at 11:03 PM, VVilly said:

(13) Radiant Prostitution >Working clothes page has the following notifications: "Ignore this page, I disabled it (RM)", "It's no longer required as the approach mode ha"

"Has been removed", I guess.

Why didn't you removed this page completely then? Note: maybe you've already answered this question (wholly or partially) answering the Question #2.

 

I may use the page for something later so didn't bother removing it.

 

On 9/29/2023 at 11:03 PM, VVilly said:

And one more question.

I have the following issue with the version of the mod I've had until today. I didn't have enough time to check how it works in the version you published, but didn't find any mention abut this problem in the topic, so the issue probably still exists.

This issue is that slaves from Paradise Halls - And You Get a Slave can also order Home Delivery. However:

(1) it breaks immersion (I guess that by the logic of the mod this type of NPCs isn't allowed to take such decisions),

(2) it's not possible to complete the quest as the slaves don't have the proper dialogue.

Could you remove this type of NPC from the list of potential customers for Home Delivery but make it possible for them to participate in action if the delivery was ordered by their owner?


A patch could be created to remove these NPCs from the potential clients, if they have a keyword or something that would make it easier. It would need to be a patch as it would require the mod to be installed.

I figured I'd answer your questions here in full here as you outlined a lot of questions others may have to, if anything is unclear, let me know.

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On 9/28/2023 at 9:01 AM, Kruggar said:

I repaid the money to innkeeper and took loan again to restart quest, same thing happened again where it only increased for day 1, but on day 2,3,4,x it's stuck and innkeeper dont put any bounty on me.

 

I can confirm this wasn't working with the version I published. I have just uploaded a hotfix you can download to fix it. You will need to start a new loan for it to take effect. Thank you for reporting.

Posted
1 hour ago, Bratty Cheeks - RMCW said:

I'm not sure what this means? 

 

I mean the notice show to the game, something like "wench is currently on job" when NPCs are whoring.

Posted
On 10/1/2023 at 9:10 AM, a117 said:

from Simple Slavery Plus Plus

quest is over but the items do not come back.

 

Do I need to go back to Riften to get them?

SS++ has an option to strip you from your belongings - I quote from that mod's page how it works, it came with v6.3.16

 

Quote

 MCM option "Remove inventory when enslaved".  Default is off.
- During the auction, all your non-quest items will be transferred to the strongbox in the slave market lectern.
- A button on the System page will open the strongbox for you one time to let you take what you want.  Afterwards, the strongbox is emptied.
- Or, you can return later to the slave market and use the strongbox.  It's not locked.
- If you are enslaved again, you will lose whatever is still in the strongbox.

 

Posted

Sorry if this is a dumb question...what does RMCW stand for?

Updating from 7.0.4   Thanks.

Posted

Any plans to incorperate more creature content? Stable masters could hire you to take care of their horses, but payment depends on how many you get off. . Maybe interested creatures could approach you and if you get them off it ranks up your sexstill so its good pratice, im not sure how they would pay you lol.

Posted
13 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

SS++ has an option to strip you from your belongings - I quote from that mod's page how it works, it came with v6.3.16

 

 

 

From a role-playing perspective, I would have preferred to be able to return or buy back from the innkeeper.

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21 hours ago, Bratty Cheeks - RMCW said:

 

I will have a look at it at some point but it's not at the top of my priorities.

 

 

Thanks for replying. I respect your priorities, just hope you come around to this one eventually, as others that worked on the mod didn't seem to get to it. Would only remark that this is a rather unique feature of RP. There's no other mod that adds autonomous NPC prostitutes that actually play their love scenes independently of player action, and I find it helps with the atmosphere. TDF-AP allows you to pimp followers and set them to work on a particular location, but there it is, you're the mentor behind the whole story, not a visitor to a world where things happen around you.

 

Here's a short funny story - back in, I think, 2018, I added Song of the Green to my game and Auri used the wench outfit at the time. She also started at a camp near Riften. The very first time I recruited her, I had Lucien and Inigo along, and I noticed that Auri and Inigo had stopped following me... I backtracked, heard some moaning, saw some unexpected subtitles, had to go offroad and found them, rumping in the forest behind some bushes... Turns out the wench outfit had made Auri eligible for the "independent labour" quest and, since it wasn't voiced, I missed the part where they made the deal. Just after they were done, Auri started flirting with timid Lucien, now as part of their banter patch... She sounded like a true predator. Laughed my arse out at the whole thing and really enjoyed how it played out without any input of mine.

 

This used to work very well on the very earliest versions (well, from the point where it was implemented, at least). Later on it was either intentionally nerfed, or perhaps reimplemented in a way that competes with other mods, perhaps? I know you can implement NPC behaviour in a number of ways, from packages to quest aliases. I would risk that whichever way it is implemented right now, competes with mods like Immersive Citizens that are very "jealous" of their AI priority... Just a wild guess. Because I don't see any obvious conflicts, and quest aliases don't need to override, as different quests can try to control the same actor and are sorted by priority, right? Or maybe it's just that a random chance factor is applied to a script, that is too low to trigger, when other mods also compete for control of the tavern wenches.

Edited by petronius
Posted

I'm confused with this removal: "- Approach from free roam and related MCM options. Was confusing for new users, had mismatched dialogue and could cause issues with other mods." Does this mean you no longer have the option to be approach by NPCs autonomously (old "passive mode") instead of actively entering dialogue with them? Also, does this impact the "Damned competition!" quest where NPCs that met certain contitions would approach other NPCs (I was able to still see a check for the JobWhore keyword in the quest conditions, along with others, but there are no longer working clothes with the keyword) or did you change the way that works?

Posted (edited)

Hello everyone. May I ask a question? I can't work in Solitude. The dialogue to offer work doesn't show up when asking the bartender in winking skeever. 

Edited by tulipo
Posted (edited)
On 10/8/2023 at 2:24 PM, Bratty Cheeks - RMCW said:

I figured I'd answer your questions here in full here as you outlined a lot of questions others may have to, if anything is unclear, let me know.

Many thanks for the replies! Everything is clear, except this point:

  

On 10/8/2023 at 2:24 PM, Bratty Cheeks - RMCW said:

A patch could be created to remove these NPCs from the potential clients, if they have a keyword or something that would make it easier. It would need to be a patch as it would require the mod to be installed.

Do you mean a patch for "Radiant Prostitution - RMCW Edition" (that could be created by you or by someone else) or a patch for "Paradise Halls - And You Get a Slave" (that could be created by @Musje or by someone else)?

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