Sexout Soliciting

[Loopy06]

Hi Odessa,

 

This is a great mod and I really like it. There's only one thing, most of the markers for scenes in goodsprings and sloan (I have only tried these locations so far) are close to entrances and often the pc is half stuck in the doors during acts (npcs tend to leave the zones before they can initiate dialog too).

[Odessa]

That should be fixed in the v5.1 beta above .

[Loopy06]

That should be fixed in the v5.1 beta above .

 

Nice, gonna try it ! Thanks

 

Edit : Should I make a clean save before updating ?

[ChancellorKremlin]

A few things I've noticed on a quick playthrough:

 

 

 

 

- In GS, any animations happening in Victor's Shack on the bed are always perpendicular to the bed, rather than parallel. This means sometimes the actors clip through the wall. I think it would be better if the anims were rotated either 90 degrees left or right so as to align with the bed.

 

- In Sloan, twice the miners asked me to go down on them and a doggy animation followed.

 

- When using surfaces such as the pool table or the bed in Victor's Shack, sometimes the actors sink through it. Would setting the surfaceref slightly higher than the actual object surface address this? I think hovering an inch or two over the object is probably preferable to a few inside it.

 

- My camera hasn't been panning in and out as elegantly as in previous versions. Sometimes my camera moves all the way to the floor, or actually sits inside my character's head. The previous "back and up" pan rarely occurs now.

 

- Punctuation at the end of sentences! 

 

 

 

 

 

[panthercom]

 I seem to have lost all my dialog options for Sexout Sex after installing 5.1; all my

savegames after installation have this problem; the one's before installation (after

unchecking Soliciting) are still working. Could someone else have a look?

 

 

[Loopy06]

 I seem to have lost all my dialog options for Sexout Sex after installing 5.1; all my

savegames after installation have this problem; the one's before installation (after

unchecking Soliciting) are still working. Could someone else have a look?

 

Updated to 5.1 too and using SexoutSex. I still have the dialog options.

[panthercom]

 Thanks for letting me know; I wonder what happened to my Sexout install THIS time? 

[Odessa]

@Loopy06: Updating soliciting should never require a clean save so far. I never make them when I test it.

 

@CK: I guess that bed isn't in the SCR angles lists, I'll add it in. Positioning on surfaces is quite tricky, I'll see about making them hover a little. It is feasible that I could (slowly) build up an array with offsets for all the different surfaces which would help things. The extra problem is that it also depends on the animation sometimes.. in theory I could cover that (slowly) too. Unfortunately it may also vary depending on if you are using vanilla or Amra animations, and on character scale. I'll try just hovering an inch for everything to start with.

 

I think I might have disabled the camera panning in some places. Sexout has a 'telephoto' option that does a similar thing and will probably conflict, but it does not include the workaround to prevent invisible player. I'll change it so that I only pan if the sexout option is disabled and still do the other thing. I should be able to make the pre-sex idles -> animation transition smoother now that sexout '86 allows starting animations whilst in free camera too.

 

I've noticed it sometimes picking the wrong animation is Sloan too, but everything looked correct when I checked the scripts. I'll add some more debug and try to figure it out.

 

I have been trying to improve my punctuation . I think it is better in the more recent dialog at least.

 

@panthercom: I suspect its not related to soliciting. I set the "SO:NotNow" NX on the player whilst in the bath house and during some scripted sequences, which could potentially get stuck (although I'm not aware of it). However, I don't think SexoutSex checks this because its difficult to check NX in dialog, and if it did get stuck SexAssault and AKH would be spamming the console with 'disabled due to Sexout Not Now', if you have them loaded. Otherwise I add the named NPCs added by soliciting to the sexout reserved list, but no one vanilla to it.

[panthercom]

 I've got a suspicion that the Bangatron might be fouling up the animation picker

with the newer beta versions of Sexout; I had the 'oral sex not being selected' bug

show up again immediately after triggering an animation with the Bangatron, and

the bug corrupted the savegame. The correct acts are being selected for me in

Soliciting now.

 

 One issue I've encountered twice is a CTD if a companion is laying on the bed

when sex starts; is the bed marked as 'player only'?

[Odessa]

This isn't really related to soliciting, but what do you mean by 'fouling up'? I don't think its possible to 'foul up' the animation picker from a mod (given sane use of API). With the old NX method if you set up an act and then didn't actually call it, the settings would carry over until one did happen succesfully, but that can only confuse the next one for the actor. If something is going wrong with the random picker, I think it will be at sexout's end.

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CTD is interesting, do you mean a companion or the sex partner was sleeping in the Novac bed?

[ChancellorKremlin]

I think the low camera issue happens when there is an "inbetween" idle pose before the real sex starts. It seems to work fine, for example, in Novac, with no inbetween poses.

 

The bed hovering seems like a good place to start. What might be useful (for all beds) would be to have some sort of "invisible" mesh one could place over them, like a floor or ceiling, as objects are notoriously difficult to work with when it comes to running anims on them. I've managed to "fix" the issue with a near 99% rate of efficiency by placing a floor just over the bed, with the only side effect being it is perfectly visible. 

 

Also, I don't think I've had a customer ever request the full around the world squeaky clean bath. Do I remember you saying it hasn't been implemented yet? 

 

[panthercom]

 For a period of several weeks, Sexout would absolutely not play any oral sex animations

when called for by a mod; this applied to Soliciting, Sexout Sex, TTW Quest Overhaul, and

Sex Assault would never play any oral animations, but some other category instead.

I could still play them with the Bangatron.

 

 I removed a bunch of mods, reinstalled Sexout, and oral sex animations began working

again. I initiated a sex act with the Bangatron, and oral sex mods (again) stopped playing

when called for. A sex act would still play, but it would anything BUT an oral sex animation.

I think other things were being affected in the picker too; I kept getting footjobs, and the

same animation would get called up three times in a row.

 

 The CTD's were from a companion sleeping on the bed. I actually got a CTD in Primm

one time when my companion was standing on the bed when sex started. I'm using one

of the NosCo companions.

[Loopy06]

If you don't talk to Lt. Haggerty at Helios One and convince her to let you in (need NCR rep, or speech 30 or science 30), she and her men turn hostile when you leave the first Helios One party.

[Odessa]

New beta 5.1 (12)

 

- Collision planes to help sex alignment with novac bed and sloan billiards table, also uses xmarker as ref surface instead of real surface

- Fixed possible hostile helios haggerty

- Fixed Stanton/Gomez no dialog fuckup for a 3-0 orgasm match

- Expanded helios grill nav mesh exclusion

- Fix maida/jenny jet jonesying convo not starting. (anyone tried feeding jenny psycho yet? )

 

Thanks to Loopy06 and CK for figuring these out

 

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Please note, I haven't tested this much so I'm leaving the last beta up in case its got borked. If the alignment trick works I'll expand it to other locations next week.

 

If you have the previous beta, you only need to upgrade the .esm, otherwise you need the bigger file which has the data files in it.

 

(attachment removed- updated OP version)

[ChancellorKremlin]

I'm experiencing very frequent crashes during these last couple of updates, always during the sex scene in the bathhouse at Novac. I'll start enabling the debugger to see what comes up.

 

I was also going to ask about Maida - does she ever say anything? I haven't managed to get a word out of her. 

 

Lastly, would be interesting to maybe have a sex scene or two where more than just the PC was involved in the room upstairs. And like I mentioned elsewhere, the "Around the world squeaky clean" - don't think I've ever gotten a john to trigger it. 

 

EDIT: Crashed again. Here's the dump.

 

EDIT II: And another one.

 

P.S: I really like Maida's outfit. Where is it from? I also like it that every now and then she changes to something else. I've always wanted to make a sort of "clothing rotation mod" to simulate people changing clothes every two days or so. Kind of gets boring when you know exactly who everyone is by what they wear...

 

 

[Odessa]

Maida's clothes are by NepoznatiNN. She has some dialog now, try exploring her room and then talking to her when you're working a shift. Her and Jenny should also start conversations with you after you wait sometimes.

 

Round the world tricks are coming in v5.2. They will be unique and have a kind of short-story / mini-quest feel to them.

 

From what I can tell from the log, I started a hand wipe trick and it crashed 15-25 seconds later. Did the sex animation finish, and what is your duration?

[ChancellorKremlin]

I should have known Nepo had a hand in it, there's not much that wonderful man can't do!

 

I didn't realise they had rooms, which ones are they? 

 

Sex duration is set to 30s and the crashes occurred midway through, as far as I can tell. I like the sound of the round the world btw! 

[Odessa]

Next door and underneath your room there are conveniently 3 boarded up rooms in the vanilla game. In v5.1 these become occupied by the other girls, and the Duntons move into Jeannie May's old house.

 

Currently they never actually go to their rooms, but there may be some events in them later. I thought about making the bath house close at some times of day, but I think that would be more tedious than immersive.

 

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So, that dump ends with a crash? No idea why, my script is just checking sexout in use once per second. I assume you haven't changed the script in "SexoutSolicitingChange1.esp"

 

Is anyone else getting crashes in the bedroom?

[ChancellorKremlin]

Didn't change anything in that and it happens without it, too. I'll go investigate the rooms. Can't be anywhere near as nerve racking as Alien Isolation... 

[Loopy06]

Is anyone else getting crashes in the bedroom?

 

Sometimes, happends after a handfull of clients, but I get ctds regularly with this install (guess too much mods).

[Azmodan 102]

No serious problems with this version so far except the standart Fallout New Vegas stuff. Sex on the bed in novac sometimes get alignment issues when moving the char before the anim starts ( More on acts with two guys in a row. The ragdoll after the first act throws the character off the bed and then the next act starts. One actor on bed height and the other on nearly ground level.

 

You can give psycho to Jenny??   Repaired her sink and found out some other...things about the other (Big Nose ) "girl" in their rooms but no conversations to Jenny about drugs or new things for the other "girl" can be choosen. Are that the  miniquests in future Versions you spoke about?

 

Was that a mice in one of the rooms? I allmost burned the motel with a flamer at that moment.

 

[luinil]

Hi,

jet bug sorta

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I've noticed that the girls in the bathhouse are diserning jet users and did not seem to recognise eddies , or ronnies jet.!

 

 

Helios Ideasfor low end systems

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With the helios one parties if you have got a crap system ;like myself you could try purge cell buffers before fast travelling to helios , turn down you graphic setting also might help ?Maybe a 'helios lite' toggle for soliciting with fewe nps for those people with low end systems? Probaby difficult to do ?

 

clothes collections  I like with hooking

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Massive collection of sexy clothes -belts , tops ,hotpants, belts, some shoes ,body st0ckings, jeans, 1/2 jeans etc for tm6, tm6bb,tn, k2 berry.

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/13820-my-cloth-collection-nv-conversion-expansion-t6m-t6bb-tn-berryk2/

 

nice collection of sexy clothes

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/40-my-cloth-collection-nv-conversion-expansion-t6m-t6bb-tn-berryk2/

 

Note I think both have body suits for t6m though one does not really say that the itme is a body suit.

 

 

[Odessa]

New stable version v5.1, see OP.

 

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Changes since previous beta (see OP for full):

 

- Tweaks to positioning in Novac. Johns walk out room instead of teleporting. For double hand wipes, the first one should now get off the bed and have a smoke when he's done.

- Added a RTW trick with dialog by Panthercom. More coming soon with narratives by him + Nismoman.

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@Azmodan: You have to be working a shift to talk to the girls, and they become more friendly after you've worked there a while or done them some favors. Jenny and Maida will occasionally start conversations with after you wait.

There is a mouse in Maida's room, yeah. Maybe mine too .

 

 

@Luinil: They won't accept the shake the dope out jet currently, its awkward without sharing a master. I may be able to figure something out.

[ChancellorKremlin]

A few updates:

 

 

 

 

- I think the sides of the player's bed need to be navmeshed. Sometimes the johns try to leave by either side and get stuck there unless the player "pushes" them towards the door.

 

- Should condoms on the tray inside the bath house be free and not count as stealing for the player?

 

- Is Manny the one you're supposed to convince to fix Maida's sink if you don't do it yourself? I did and an option to "ask him for a favour" came up but then there was just a "nevermind" option there. This is a little confusing, shouldn't the topic just not be available if you're already fixed it?

 

- At times the other girls end up dancing inside the sofa they are supposed to be sitting in. Also, is there any reason for Anna to dance as well?

 

- The psycho for Jenny was hilarious. Though I expected to go to her room and find lots of blood and a dead body on the bed 

 

- The miners in Sloan should be more respectful of Jas' place. I doubt she'd approve of them just doing it in the open.

 

- And on that note, the Dunton's introductory scene - maybe only have it take place in the open if between 8pm - 11pm? Later than that and they have gone home, and any earlier they use the bed in their house instead. 

 

 

 

 

 

[NicoleDragoness]

Just a little note.

If you have Willow mod as companion, there are two possibly glitches:

 

1. Renting the Willow's Bungalow in Novac and "forgetting" to rent the room, makes the entire Novac's Soliciting part to be un available if Jenny May is already dead (the merchant in the Dinky would not have the dialogue after some time). The solution is to manually unlock (console) the room's door. This starts the count down for the bathhouse init.

 

2. If you forget to retrieve the Lace Bear (Willow's challenge quest) from Jenny May's house and Soliciting is started, the bear disappears forever making the quest unfinishable.

    Solution by console, again, with player.additem xx0154E1 1  (where xx are the two digits for Willow esm's load order).