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Posted
19 hours ago, Wyrade said:

Hm, right. Although in MO the file overwrite order is separate from the esp order, so it might still be possible that something overwrites skeleton files that shouldn't, as we don't see that list.
 

That list is the left panel in both MO and MO2. Latter does not have direct archive management, but it still does manage all loose files.

 

XPMSE resources are distributed as loose files. Moving XPMSE as last file in MO - just above Output folders, makes sure that it wins all conflicts against loose files and archives above it.

Posted

Hi, I have a problem with the breasts moving and being visible through the metal bra. It looks like the bra is very thin. The nipple piercing dont attach at the right place as well. I used BodySlide multiple times, but it didn't change anything.

Posted

Don't know why this is the only mod I can't download anymore without a -Network Error- causing failed download.  Is this problem common? Cuz i'd never find the solution in this monster of a thread.  Shame cuz everything else in the DD family is fine,  just cant update this  ?

 

EDIT: Several weeks and several tries later it finally decided to work  yays

Posted

Is someone else having the problem when equipping PAH slave NPCs some devious devices, (personally have this most glaring when giving an armbinder) and loading another room the NPC stop animating the restrained pose? I wanted to use them but that's far annoying to my immersion and I'm tired of being a rope bunny :P 

Maybe is something related to my load order?

 

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Thanks for the help!

 

Load order:



# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
SexLab.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
OblivionHairPackAIO.esm
SGHairPackBase.esm
daymoyl.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Heretical Resources.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
paradise_halls.esm
Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
DeviousFramework.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
SkyUI.esp
FNIS.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
SpellResearch.esp
Corpse_Preparation.esp
JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
CellBuilder.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Light.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
CWIOrdinatorPatch.esp
CWIELnFXPatch.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
Size Does Matter.esp
daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
SGHairPackAIO.esp
LovelyHairstylesCE.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
Beards.esp
Brows.esp
UIExtensions.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
Cloaks.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
Female Prisoner Throusers.esp
DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
Lootable Dungeon Armors.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
AddItemMenuLE.esp
SAM - Shape Atlas for Men.esp
SAM - Dawnguard Patch.esp
RaceMenuPluginSAM.esp
FloppySOS.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
XPMSE.esp
SlaveTats.esp
BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
SexLabTools.esp
dcc-dm2.esp
SL Sleeping Necro.esp
Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp
My Home Is Your Home dialogue patch.esp
pahe-tdf-patch.esp
DSerHorsesRevamped.esp
paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp
pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp
paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp
EtR_HearthfireDungeonAddon.esp
Slavewaymanor.esm.esp
_SHC2.esp
WhiterunSerendipity.esp
The Bondage House.esp
PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp
SlaveLighting.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SexLabMatchMaker.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
sanguinesDebaucheryChildPatch.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
VVE.esp
AnubAnimObj.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
Slaves of Tamriel.esp
Slaves of Tamriel - iNeed.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
Extra NPCs.esp
Ultimate NPC Overhaul II.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
Serana.esp
Bijin AIO.esp
MoreNPCs.esp
DIVERSE SKYRIM -Nord Stormcloaks Only.esp
Evittalex's Retouched NPCs of Skyrim.esp
FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
Devious Devices For Him.esp
Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-patch.esp
pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-DDx-patch.esp
xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
CWIOOPatchReplacer.esp
hydra_slavegirls.esp
ImmersiveFP.esp
Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
ImmerSlave.esp
PuppetMaster.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp
DeadlyMutilation.esp
CustomVLFormWings.esp
NoMoreUglyVampireLord.esp
Animated Dragon Wings.esp


 

EDIT: Tried now puppet master slaves and is the same outcome...Damn I don't know what to do ? 

Posted
8 hours ago, Kimy said:

We have no plans to support body mods other than CBBE and UUNP.

Nor is there any need to support individual bodies in DD.

 

You can use Bodyslide on the existing assets which come with both CBBE and UUNP texture mappings.

 

UUNP has the CHSBHC shape. I use it myself, in fact.

 

 

The OP @WarsunGames references an old body mod, which is CBBE based. Switching to UUNP will be painful at first, as it will mean finding the UUNP versions of all his armors, but it's worth it, the Racemenu plugin for CBBE is very basic. The plugin for UUNP will blow you away.

Posted

Hi there,

 

Have been using this mod for so long, absolute gem :)

 

Anyways... I'm not sure if you are aware of an incompatibility with the mod Seperate Orgasm by ed86?


Currently if you use his mod + devious devices and the PC is wearing a chastity belt / harness / stuffs that should block orgasms, a DD event (orgasm end or something) triggers after the "DD Belt- Solo" animation, which causes the arousal to drop to zero and register an orgasm in Arousal (which probably shouldn't happen with such a device ;)).

 

Could you guys (if it's not to much to ask ofc ^^), add compatibilty with his mod?

I already asked him as well, but making sure both sides are aware ?

Posted
On 2/9/2019 at 7:20 PM, Lupine00 said:

Nor is there any need to support individual bodies in DD.

 

You can use Bodyslide on the existing assets which come with both CBBE and UUNP texture mappings.

 

UUNP has the CHSBHC shape. I use it myself, in fact.

 

 

The OP @WarsunGames references an old body mod, which is CBBE based. Switching to UUNP will be painful at first, as it will mean finding the UUNP versions of all his armors, but it's worth it, the Racemenu plugin for CBBE is very basic. The plugin for UUNP will blow you away.

 

We hates UUNP body. We hates it much! But seriously. I tried the body. An it just didn't look right using CHSBHC body armors. Mind you i am using this.

 

 

So the quality of armor is going to be different. Then their is the body type. TRUST ME! The body types are completely different. I also got it to work by the way. So thank you all for helping. I had to override the HD-T program with the mod. But this still points out an issue. Apparently Khajiit and Argonians do not get HDTPE to work properly with collision. So i am trying to find a mod that allows this to happen. So any help on that would be great.

Posted
1 hour ago, WarsunGames said:

So the quality of armor is going to be different. Then their is the body type. TRUST ME! The body types are completely different. I also got it to work by the way. So thank you all for helping. I had to override the HD-T program with the mod. But this still points out an issue. Apparently Khajiit and Argonians do not get HDTPE to work properly with collision. So i am trying to find a mod that allows this to happen. So any help on that would be great.

I see that article. I know it well. It's from 2012. The links are broken, the armors are very hard to find now. Single-shape CHSBHC has had little attention for years. It's an antiquity. Expecting support for it is beyond a joke really.

 

But I'll bite, and take this seriously, rather than as a sort of borderline trolling attempt. I mean CHSBHC support, seriously? This wasn't even a popular body when it was fresh.

 

 

So...

 

 

I'm unable to speak to how closely the UUNP shape really matches a genuine mono-shape CHSBHC, but if you don't like it, you can always tweak it in Outfit Studio. I almost want to load a "real" CHSBHC into OS to compare it. I might... I might... Do you have a screenshot in OS to show how far off it is?

 

But...

 

Only a couple of weeks back I did - side by side - a full new LO of all latest and greatest, with up-to-date Bodyslide and armors of UUNP and CBBE.

I played those games in parallel. Apart from less armors to choose from generally, the CBBE game had scaling problems.

 

Most new armors come in both flavors, so that's not a big point of difference.

Except maybe some Nexus stuff made by Nexus people who think that single-shape bodies are still a thing. But all the slooty Nexus stuff is for both.

The lack of my favourite vanilla replacers for CBBE was a pain though.

 

Generally it's old armors lthat ack Bodyslide (or have a Bodyslide so rubbish it's not really any use). Most of those old armors have textures so low resolution, or so few polygons that they look like jaggy pixel vomit anyway. Vanilla replacers are an exception to this because they have great textures from Gamwich.

 

 

So, what is to choose between CBBE and UUNP?

 

CBBE's slider model is dramatically less featureful. It has fewer sliders and they do less. UUNP is a super-set of CBBE, but you have more range generally.

CBBE has no baked-in, one-stop-shop multi-body shape selection. This makes sense because it simply can't scale to all those shapes.

 

Sure, many people are perfectly happy making their own shapes and saving them as presets for CBBE. Others never figure out how Bodyslide presets work.

 

 

What I found is that you can't make a small-boobs shape with CBBE and then have it scale properly. It looks like s**t with any mod that scales nodes instead of applying morphs. Sure, the morphs are OK, so it previews fine in Bodyslide, but in practice, you're reduced to doing tit-scaling via bodyweight, which is not really a solution. The relative lack of polys around the breast edge causes real problems in CBBE.

 

UUNP is much better in this respect, and has a lot more polygons around the breast edges, not just over the main part.

 

CBBE has slightly more pixel density on the boobs due to its UV mapping, but not really enough to make an appreciable difference on giant titties. The lack of polygons totally offsets this in the other direction.

 

CBBE has a highly unrealistic hip-shape, that can't be adjusted to make a skinny body that looks even close to right. If you want a shape that looks a lot like 7Base with softer thighs, you're golden, otherwise, not so much. Quite a few animations produce "hip crunch" on CBBE.

 

Custom shapes are total non-issues if you're using a mono-shape CBBE-mapped CHSBHC or UNPB Oppai though. So I guess it's up to the user what they want.

 

 

For me, the deal-breaker was how arms and thighs scaled in CBBE. There really was no thin/skinny option that didn't look like a jaggy mess of polygons on the arms.

 

When you look at the meshes in NifSkope, comparing UUNP Special with CBBE, the polygon density on the arms and legs is significantly higher in UUNP Special.

On the arms, there is no comparison; the difference is huge.

 

But this should not be a shock. CBBE is less than HALF the polygon and vertex count of UUNP Special.

It's a low-res body, for low-end machines.

 

CBBE was specced in 2011 for the mid-range hardware of the day, and it's still a nice upgrade over vanilla - which was typical Bethesda unspeakably bad art, like they made it deformed on purpose.

 

If you're running on a laptop or something, I guess CBBE is a fair choice.

 

 

But how is this relevant to CHSBHC? Because CHSBHC is built on the CBBE mesh, plain and simple. It's just an H-cup CBBE. It has all of CBBE's low polygon limitations, rough looking arms, jaggies on the legs, and so on. That is why it has CBBE UV mapping. At the time, the physics were a big thing, but now they're just old and busted. XP32MSE is the norm, whether you're CBBE or UUNP.

 

 

DD is never going to support all the body shapes. Just to support the popular "classic" shapes would be an insane job.

There is Bodyslide, and Outfit Studio, and you can do what you want with them.

Posted
On 2/10/2019 at 10:40 PM, Twinking134 said:

Where can i get an older version like DDi v3.3 (its a requirement for some mods) :/

Just delete the mods that still didn't upgrade to DD4. They are obsolete. DD4 has been out for way over a year now. If a mod STILL hasn't updated yet, it probably means you shouldn't be using them anymore.

Posted

I am having a bit of a problem.

Some devices from DDx are not even present in the game, but they are showing in the bodyslide menu and thats how i came to know about those devices. these devices are Hobbleskirt with straightjacket topless version type and they aare shown in bodyslide but i cant find them in the game even after using add item menu.... please someone help

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Posted
15 minutes ago, Perseus117 said:

I am having a bit of a problem.

Some devices from DDx are not even present in the game, but they are showing in the bodyslide menu and thats how i came to know about those devices. these devices are Hobbleskirt with straightjacket topless version type and they aare shown in bodyslide but i cant find them in the game even after using add item menu.... please someone help

They're in the game. You can find them by using: Help "straitjacket dress"

 

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Posted
On 2/11/2019 at 5:40 PM, Twinking134 said:

Where can i get an older version like DDi v3.3 (its a requirement for some mods)

What mod do you actually need DD3 for?

 

  • DDe, you can patch to 4 yourself if you really must have it.
  • Devious Regulations has a patched version.
  • Arngrim's Apprentice should work with DD4 anyway, as it's just a chastity belt.
  • Devious Cidhna is up to date.
  • Stories Devious is up to date.
  • SLUTS Redux is up to date.
  • Delazon mods are either not DD or have patches.
  • CD has the main quest line patched, and you can probably patch some errant items yourself.
  • The old built-in DD quests were flaky and barely worked.
  • DF is up to date.
  • PoP is fine without DD items enabled at all.
  • SD+ is up to date.
  • Hormones is up to date.
  • Parasites is up to date.
  • Slaverun Reloaded 3 beta is DD4.1 compatible and has a patch up to 4.2
  • Aradia has a patch to 4 that makes it work better than it ever was in 3
  • Barefoot Realism is up to date
  • BWitch is up to date
  • DD Helpers is up to date
  • Devious Mind Break is up to date
  • DT2 dev version works fine with 4
  • Deviously Enchanted Chests is up to date
  • Devious Enslaved Continued is up to date
  • Deviously Enslaved is ... totally obsolete
  • I'll take the display model ... I think it's up to date
  • Whiterun Brothel Revamp was 4.X until it was pulled by the author
  • Raven Beak Prison Remastered is up to date
  • TreasureHunterWhore is up to date
  • Dragonborn in Distress is up to date
  • Devious Bashnag still works I think - I played it not so long ago
  • Sorlis Balarn's Treasure - don't know but I think it's up to date
  • The Devious Manual - I think it's stale
  • Barefoot Realism - works fine
  • Immersive Plugs - works fine
  • Naked Dungeons - if it has a problem, DD4 isn't it.
  • PetCollar - updated sufficiently for DD4.X
  • Trapped in Rubber is dodgy anyway, and has been promising a new and crucial update for four years now
  • Devious Rubber Masks Rebirth! is up to date
  • Deviously Cursed Loot ... is up to date :) 

 

What did I miss?

 

I'm just trying to think of an old DD mod that is so good you'd build your game around it, that has no update, and I can't.

Posted

So ive been trying to install Slaverun. Thing is  Slaverun doesnt detect DDi4.2 for some reason and thats why it says it hasnt started. Does anyone have an idea how to fix this?

Posted
13 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

They're in the game. You can find them by using: Help "straitjacket dress"

 

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The new Walk of Shame quest in DCL uses these items. It's probably the first that does, but you can expect more.

Posted

Hey guys. Not sure how often this is brought up (google didn't help me much). I figured out that the Item Hider object is preventing me from using a specific accessory called "Ayame Katana". It is an armor piece that looks like two small katanas my back. They use slot 56. I have changed the item hiders item slot to 61, but it still prevents me from wearing them. I have tried several different itemslots for the item hider, but for some reason it just won't let me use this accessory. Oddly enough I am able to use the accessory, and it will equip, but it won't be shown on my character if I am using any chest piece of armor. Obviously at first I thought it was because my Katanas occupied the same slot as the Item Hider, but I have thoroughly made sure that is not the case. It also appears to prevent other small accessories (like arm bands, and forearm coverings) from showing as well (assuming my chest slot is occupied). 

 

Are there any solutions I take to solve this? 

Posted
23 minutes ago, Kimy said:

The new Walk of Shame quest in DCL uses these items. It's probably the first that does, but you can expect more.

That sounds fun. I'm also working on something that uses a straitjacket combo, but it's a shame that they're used so little.

It could be because people think that it covers too much, but I love those comfortable restraints.

Posted
1 minute ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

It could be because people think that it covers too much.

That's literally what I have heard. When Walk of Shame released, "Can we change the dress?" was among the first reactions to it. And the one used by WoS is the "boobs-exposed" one, even. oO

Posted
58 minutes ago, Kimy said:

That's literally what I have heard. When Walk of Shame released, "Can we change the dress?" was among the first reactions to it. And the one used by WoS is the "boobs-exposed" one, even. oO

There was a short discussion about this in my tread. About how many use their character as eye candy, while I use her as a stand-in for me. Maybe I look at it differently because I'm a woman, but it makes sense that many play these mods to look at a sexy naked woman in bondage.

Posted
5 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

What mod do you actually need DD3 for?

 

  • DDe, you can patch to 4 yourself if you really must have it.
  • CD has the main quest line patched, and you can probably patch some errant items yourself.
  • PoP is fine without DD items enabled at all.

What did I miss?

 

I'm just trying to think of an old DD mod that is so good you'd build your game around it, that has no update, and I can't.

I think the ones listed above are the typical culprits why people keep asking for old DD versions. CD is one of the more popular DD mods (and for a reason, it IS an awesome mod!), but due to various reasons didn't receive an official update to DD4 yet. There is a patch (I think it was even posted by CD's author himself), but I suppose people easily miss it and think they'd need DD3 to run it, because CD still officially requires it while the official DD4 supported update is getting worked on. From what I've heard, CD using the patch runs mostly fine in a DD4 installation.

 

The POP/DDEquip combo is a case of an arbitrary decision by their author to never update them to DD4, despite in the case of these mods it would be much more trivial to do than updating the far more complex CD. In this case, my advice to users is what I said above: Consider these mods obsolete and uninstall them.

 

In any case, as your list shows, users will lose far more mods by NOT using DD4 than by cutting lose the few outdated ones that never got updated.

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