Katsuni Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Awesome work, everything works fine. Also it'll be nice to have help of someone familiar with Lovers mechanics, especialy with camera modes. I've browsed nexus for the purpose of adding something intresting to the game, as i always do from time to time... and there i've finded this great mod: http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/44337 It's intended to expand first person camera mode possibilities for views and animations both, as you can partly see from screens. It also has .ini file for configuring mod and allowing it to switch 3rd person animations(both vanila and from mods) to work for 1st person mode. It works just fine for my instalation, both vanila and some walking/jumping animations from mods looks working and compatible. Then i've founded this video: http://www.naughtymachinima.com/video/8638/09-149-fp-3dp From 20 second you can see what goal of this message is...First person mode through the character eyes avaible for Lovers animation... But for me, when the Lovers animations starts (through the dialog or with the help of LoversTachiCat2 both) game is switching and locking to the 3rd person mode no matter how i change Enhanced First Person Camera setting. It also cannot be switched to the first person mode by the camera mode switching key. So the question is: if there is some way trough the console camera commands or the mod settings, or any other way to achieve the goal described higher. Thanks for reading this to the end
Vaelorian Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Just move the camera into the head of the participant you want... Helps to equip an empty model for the head so the eyes\mouth won't bother you.
fejeena Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Enhanced First Person Camera and lovers http://www.loverslab.com/topic/22034-enhanced-first-person-camera-by-logicdragon/page-1
Katsuni Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Enhanced First Person Camera and lovers http://www.loverslab.com/topic/22034-enhanced-first-person-camera-by-logicdragon/page-1 Much appreciated!
Ana Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 Thank you for all your hard work on this. I've been away from it for a while, but I recently reinstalled Oblivion and Lovers was always an important part of my load order back in the day. It's so great to see the impressive advancements that have been made through the years.
BlackImpulse Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 LAPF's animations incompatible with MAO?
Leo77 Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 LAPF's animations incompatible with MAO? Yes, it is incompatible http://www.loverslab.com/topic/12494-mods-that-are-not-compatible-with-lovers/
yosyoy Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Greg I have a new rig and after cursing the sh..t out of Asus and Microsoft over windows 8.1, I finally manage to stabilize my system to my liking and installed the latest LAPF. I'm having trouble with NPC's ability to differentiate a bed from a chair, I mean the bed is right there but the NPC chooses a chair or table instead, I actually have to be almost in bed to have it work, so I'm wondering if it's the lover's bed plugin or the Lpk itself. Can you help me, please...lol
kingkong Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 yosyoy, on 12 Feb 2014 - 09:38 AM, said: Greg I have a new rig and after cursing the sh..t out of Asus and Microsoft over windows 8.1, I finally manage to stabilize my system to my liking and installed the latest LAPF. I'm having trouble with NPC's ability to differentiate a bed from a chair, I mean the bed is right there but the NPC chooses a chair or table instead, I actually have to be almost in bed to have it work, so I'm wondering if it's the lover's bed plugin or the Lpk itself. Can you help me, please...lol or just a load order issue please provide more information like the load order
rynak777 Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Erm, it might also be something very simple: Some of the animations artificially SPAWN a table or chair and the like - it's hardcoded into the animation. You can easily check by tapping the grab key (default z) to change animation.
yosyoy Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 yosyoy, on 12 Feb 2014 - 09:38 AM, said: Greg I have a new rig and after cursing the sh..t out of Asus and Microsoft over windows 8.1, I finally manage to stabilize my system to my liking and installed the latest LAPF. I'm having trouble with NPC's ability to differentiate a bed from a chair, I mean the bed is right there but the NPC chooses a chair or table instead, I actually have to be almost in bed to have it work, so I'm wondering if it's the lover's bed plugin or the Lpk itself. Can you help me, please...lol or just a load order issue please provide more information like the load order I've not installed as many lovers plugins yet, as I'm trying to test them out before I get into complicated mods like Tomago and such, but this is the load order for the lovers'plugins: LoversAdultPlusforSSP LoversVoiceSSPplus LoversBed LoversWithPK LoversBackup SpermSlashEx LoversRaperS LoversMB2 LoversLight LoversTrueCrimeEx LoversAnimationPriority LoversAnimationObjectPriority And, of course, the LAPF Esm in third place after Oblivion and AllNatural It happens with all animations weather or not they'd be calling for an object. So it may be the load for I tried the different Bed plugins there are, even the Bedaz (something like that) and the original, all the same. Nevertheless evrething else is running very smooth.
fejeena Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 yosyoy your whole load order ! We must see your non Lovers mods, one of those will conflict with Lovers. But you can sort your Lovers Mods http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/ load order in the Spoiler.
dubird Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Question: The dialogue that appears on screen during sex, where is that located? Is that from LPK or something else? I wanted to do some changes for a different flavor for myself, but I can't find where that is. ><
Guest Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 hey guys iam just about to add LAPF to my mod list and i got few question1.the version i use is AIO Complete experience form neskimo from hongfire but i modified everything remove all MBP (modular beautifull people and Race) and all mod that needs MBP as base including tamago dan hiyoko , and is it compatibe with LAFP...? 2. honestly i don't know which ver. lover pk i got since the 7.zip only got this "lover PK AIO 4.8"3. i have download the file from loverlab site that comes with 7.zip, and with my current load order which one is better make .OMOD file or just copy install4. my load order 00 Oblivion.esm01 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]02 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm03 Lovers with PK.esm04 BreakUndies.esm05 BUDungeon.esm06 LoversCreature.esm07 SDR.esm [Version 7.3.1]08 ShieldOnBack.esm [Version 3.4.1]09 UndiesUnderneath.esm0A Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.1]0B UOPS Additional Changes.esp0C UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]0D Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0E DLCShiveringIsles.esp0F Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.0]10 USIPS Additional Changes.esp11 AddActorValues_example.esp12 AFK_PrayerIdles.esp [Version 1.0]13 DID3_DoubleTrouble.esp++ 1HweaponOnBack.esp [Version 1.0]14 the punished girlbox.esp15 Living Economy.esp16 Living Economy - Items.esp17 Cutthroat Merchants.esp18 Populated Prisons.esp19 P1DlookHereYou.esp1A Streamline 3.1.esp1B DLCHorseArmor.esp1C DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]1D DLCOrrery.esp1E DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]1F DLCVileLair.esp20 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]21 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp22 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]23 DLCSpellTomes.esp++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp24 VipCxj_HighHeels.esp25 Slof's Horses Base.esp26 Slof's Extra Horses.esp27 Slof's Extra Horses 2.esp28 DLCThievesDen.esp29 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]2A DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.5]2B Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]2C Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]2D TIE.esp [Version 1.48]2E AdrenalineOblivion-SupportElements.esp2F AdrenalineOblivion-SpawnElement.esp30 Smarter Bandits.esp31 Bandit Hideouts.esp32 Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp [Version 3.1]33 Housewives v101.esp34 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp35 Trolls Under Bridges.esp36 Whispered Warning.esp37 BDBS - Whispered Warning Patch.esp38 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp39 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]3A DLCFrostcrag.esp3B DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]3C Knights.esp3D Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2]3E SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp [Version 1.30]3F DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp [Version 1.1]40 MONSTERGIRL-ANGELICALLIANCE.esp41 MONSTERGIRL-DEMON HIVE.esp42 MONSTERGIRL-AMAZON.esp43 MONSTERGIRL-NECROMANCER MOON.esp44 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2]45 Realistic Hatred.esp46 BUDungeonCore.esp47 BUDequipmentNA.esp48 BUEquipsMerge.esp49 BUDungeonAppend.esp4A LoversAdultYield.esp4B LoversCalm.esp4C LoversSetBody.esp4D LoversSoundCreature.esp [Version 0.1.0]4E LoversAphrodisia.esp4F LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp50 LoversFSE.esp51 LoversDRader.esp52 LoversHudInformation.esp [Version 1.02]53 LoversRapeman.esp54 LoversSummonRapeman.esp55 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp56 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp57 LoversRaperS.esp58 LoversJoburg.esp59 LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp5A LoversJealousy.esp5B LoversBed.esp5C LoversLoveJuice.esp5D LoversPayBandit.esp5E LoversPower.esp5F LoversNTRburglar.esp60 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96]61 LoversCreature.esp62 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3]** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp++ LoversCreatureVoiceForceEnabler.esp63 LoversSkirtFlipper.esp64 LoversStopCombatEx.esp65 LoversSpermSplashEx.esp66 LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp67 LoversRapeSlave.esp68 LoversSlaveTrader.esp++ ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp69 LoversUtilityFunctions.esp6A LoversBeatemUpS.esp++ LeveledCreatureNT.esp6B LoversMotionsNT.esp++ GalerionUnarmoredAcrobatics.esp6C Unholy Darkness.esp6D SetBody.esp6E EnchantmentRestore.esp++ EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp6F StolenItemOwnership.esp++ SDR_Detect Life Shader Patch [Oblivion].esp [Version 5.0.0]70 SDR_Perks And Patches [Oblivion].esp [Version 7.3.0]71 KamiCAS.esp [Version 2.2]++ X-Ray Detect.esp72 MassA.I.esp73 Bashed Patch, 0.esp74 LoversMB2.esp75 Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp76 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp77 Lovers3dorgasm.esp78 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp 5. if it's help this is the Lover PK file Lovers with PK.esmLovers with PK Extender.espLovers with PK.esp if LAFP is compatible that would be great cuz i got problem with my current animation sometimes the work sometimes the erroeand sometime they work but they got different animation from what i think and that animation is never end even after hours....Ty for u'r time
Vaelorian Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Nobody here uses Hongfire mods, so we can't tell you if things are "compatible" or not. We also cannot provide support for mods from Hongfire. My suggestion? Use files from one site or the other, but not both. Considering the fact you have a bunch of old plugins, I can take a rough stab and say "Directly updating the main framework will cause errors", but I could be wrong.
rynak777 Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 I'd go further by saying: Do not update your current oblivion installation at all. Reason is that you have so much rather old stuff installed, that cleanly removing all the ressources and plugins doesn't offer good odds. But without cleanly removing pretty much everything lovers related you have installed, updating will screw things up. So yeah, sorry - stay with your current install, or get ready to reinstall oblivion. Updating in your circumstances is bound to go wrong and will cost you more time to fix things than reinstalling from scratch. EDIT: About your current install - the only hint i can give if you have problems, is to disable lovers extender and everything that depends on it. Extender is was a can full of worms.
Guest Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Nobody here uses Hongfire mods, so we can't tell you if things are "compatible" or not. We also cannot provide support for mods from Hongfire. My suggestion? Use files from one site or the other, but not both. Considering the fact you have a bunch of old plugins, I can take a rough stab and say "Directly updating the main framework will cause errors", but I could be wrong. I'd go further by saying: Do not update your current oblivion installation at all. Reason is that you have so much rather old stuff installed, that cleanly removing all the ressources and plugins doesn't offer good odds. But without cleanly removing pretty much everything lovers related you have installed, updating will screw things up. So yeah, sorry - stay with your current install, or get ready to reinstall oblivion. Updating in your circumstances is bound to go wrong and will cost you more time to fix things than reinstalling from scratch. EDIT: About your current install - the only hint i can give if you have problems, is to disable lovers extender and everything that depends on it. Extender is was a can full of worms. base on this for better thing i guess need to re-install everything.... well not a problem for me then here's a follow up question out of everything list of mod... exclude lovers mod like ( i will unnistal all lover mod ) 1. DLC SI and other DLC from TGOY edition 2. Sneaking Detection Recalibrated (SDR) 3. Kamikazes Combat Animation Selector (KamiCAS) 4. all Unofficial Patch 5. Enchantment Restore 6. Galerion Unarmored Acrobatics 7. HUD status Bars 8. SM Plugin Refurbish 9. all dark brotherhood improvment 10. Tamriel Immersion Experience (TIE) 11. Male body 12. HGEC female body with no MaaM 13. Living Economy 14. Cutthroat Merchants 15. Populated Prisons 16. P1DlookHereYou 17. Streamline 3.1 and other graphic FPS improvment 18. Damsel in Distress 3 19. shield on back and ih weapon on back series.. all above list of mods...., will it work with LAPF....? and another thing Break Undies will it work too since it include in lovers PK AIO from hongfire neskimo just to make sure before i re-install everything tomorrow ty again for Vaelorian and Rynak777
Vaelorian Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 The only mod from your list that could potentially conflict is "Kamikazes Combat Animation Selector (KamiCAS)". I don't actually know what it does, so try to have it active with LAPF and see if there are errors. Break Undies should in theory not conflict, but you should probably just update to Break Armor: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/13907-break-armor-framework/ And if you are looking for more breakable armors, check this thread: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/8661-bu-armors-compilation/
rynak777 Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Any mod that changes/interfaces with animation and skeletons -might- conflict if it is scripted and uses certain functions. For most animation plugins, this is not the case, but you only know until you try (unless you're willing to delve into the plugin code in CS). Another class of plugins that can conflict (you'll know when you get invisible or "crucified" bodies), is plugins that modify the camera. From the list you posted, if you encounter issues, i'd first - one by one - disable the following ones: - Kamikazes Combat Animation Selector (KamiCAS) - Galerion Unarmored Acrobatics (depends on if it modifies animations by script) - P1DlookHereYou (if it uses a custom skeleton) AFAIK, nothing on your list HAS to conflict. The above are just ones which could perhaps conflict (just try it). Not really related to loversPK, but any overhaul mod - especially running multiple ones - is a conflict magnet. On the other hand, overhaul mods can add a lot to the gameplay. The reason for overhaul mods being conflict magnets, isn't just that they change a lot of things, but more importantly that plugins can change things far less fine-grained than you would expect. Take for example a plugin that changes horse speeds: You'd expect that it only changes the speed of horses, but not the other attributes of horses. Wrong: A plugin changes either all attributes and parameters of a creature, or none at all. That means: Even if said horse-speed plugin only changes the speed, it will - if it is later in loadorder - overwrite all other horse attributes with the vanilla settings - thus undoing any changes another plugin might have made beforehand. It is similiar for other things - i.e. races. Or most infamously: levelled lists. This is part of the purpose of the so called "bashed patch". A bashed patch isn't just there to merge plugins into a single plugin, so that you have less plugins. The other purpose of a bashed patch, is to mostly solve the above problem: If multiple plugins modify the same thing, but different attributes of it, then the bashed patch combines those changes, so that they do not overwrite each other. I myself use a bashed patch for just this reason: I have no need to reduce plugin count, because i don't have too many plugins. Thus tell WryeBash to not merge plugins. I do however have plugins that make changes to the same things, so i tell WryeBash to merge them. There's no guarantee that this will solve all issues of an overhaul mod - or even multiple of them. But it does strongly increase the odds.
Guest Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 base on Vaelorian and rynak777 i decide to clean unninstalland hope it will worksand after re-research all my mod just like u said the KAMICas it is indead break my animation it loads seperate .ini but with the same numbering with lever animationnot only that old animation .. i mean really old found in my resource pack few years ago u know like rev 94 resource pack base on this i going for complete download all lovers mod i need from here and with base LAPFafter that i got clean .ini animation in ini folder and this make me think in LAPF 1.4 7.zip there are no lover PK ekstender like my old one....., do we not need pk ekstender anymor with LAPF system...?as for the 2 modsGalerion Unarmored Acrobatics only modify game changes like acrobatic leveling system soo i keep this mod and hope for the bestP1DlookHereYou don't use custom skeletion but i can't find any detail in nexusmod soo i drop this modand once again ty to you guys edited: now it works properly aleardy confirm it just nowfinishing 1st mission smoothly without error on both normal and sex animation
Vaelorian Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Lovers Extender was never *required* by any mod. I believe Gregathit has updated it for the AP framework, so if you want it you can ask him where the download link is. The extender was created to grant you some limited interaction within the Lovers system (which are otherwise little more than cutscenes).
gregathit Posted February 15, 2014 Author Posted February 15, 2014 Yep, PK extender has a patch that makes it compatible with the LAPF. You install the Normal PK Extender and then the patch at the very top of post 2: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/218-lovers-with-pk-extender-243-re-up/ Please don't mix ANYTHING from Hongfire with the Lovers mods here as that is a sure fire way to wreck your game. The plugins are different translations, different script changes and in many cases different dependencies. Plus if you mix and match then neither site can provide any support to you if things go wrong.
Guest Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Lovers Extender was never *required* by any mod. I believe Gregathit has updated it for the AP framework, so if you want it you can ask him where the download link is. The extender was created to grant you some limited interaction within the Lovers system (which are otherwise little more than cutscenes). Yep, PK extender has a patch that makes it compatible with the LAPF. You install the Normal PK Extender and then the patch at the very top of post 2: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/218-lovers-with-pk-extender-243-re-up/ Please don't mix ANYTHING from Hongfire with the Lovers mods here as that is a sure fire way to wreck your game. The plugins are different translations, different script changes and in many cases different dependencies. Plus if you mix and match then neither site can provide any support to you if things go wrong. yes i found the link of pk ekstender from this site and downlaod both file (patch beta and 2.4.3 pk ekstender) and just install it and now it works fine and yes i learn my lesson and delete my old plug in and re download from this site with the one i need as for another question i will ask at technical support ty again
kingkong Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 now it is my turn !!! i encountered some funny things in game after installing tamagoo v1.15 and blockhead.dll the worst part was with actor value.dll sure of a load order issue i have removed most of file.esp to leave only all loversplugins after testing several (lot of) time i still get wirdo things like some lagging, stuttering, and icones of clogs or breechers are different depends on inventury : npc, pc, and chest. the most astonishing is when i started to remove loversplugins to see where is the culprit and i find my self as a dimb !!! saying to my self it can not be that one i simply deactivated loversmb2 and every thing went as paradise no crashes no alert 'bing' even had my female charcter had her first wolf child with no complications now to my probleme loversmb2 can not be the culprit but something in obse has integer it !!!!!! the esp is not activated but is running in game : the spell is here and animations are running when i cast it when i remove it from data folder obse does not even launch it quits directly with no warning this must be an install probleme but i can not understand the why ??? and how can it be possible ??? can it be that loversmb2.esp has a script that is conflicting somewhere with obse ??? is there anyway to avoid a reinstall ??? load order for now : Oblivion.esmBeautiful People 2ch-Ed.esmLovers with PK.esmTamagoClub.esmHiyokoClub.esmLoversCreature.esmLCShiveringIsles.espSpecialanims.espRMDailyIncomeV2.espTamagoPlayerHUD.espTamagoBreak.espTamagoNews.espTamagoTopic.espLoversTamagoClub.espLoversEncounter.espHiyokoQuestTarget.espHiyokoGenetics.espHiyokoGenerator.espHiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.espTamagoSetBody.espLoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.espLoversVoiceSSPplus.espLoversRaperS.espLoversSlavePlay.espLoversBed.espLovers with PK.espLoversBitch.espLoversAchievments.espLoversCreature.espLovers with PK Extender.espLoversHooker.espLoversSpermSplashEx.espLoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.espLoversRapeSlave.espSetBody.espLoversMB2 here but not activateLovers3dorgasmMB2.espLoversIdleAnimsPriority.espLovers3dorgasm.espLoversAnimObjectsPriority.espDarkUId_DarN_16_OMOD_Version-11280OBSE:(version = 21.4 010201A0)oblivion root = C:\My Games\Oblivion\
fejeena Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 ?? can't help , but Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp needs LoversMB2 as master file. Funny that your game don't crash when you deactivate MB2 but crash when you when you remove it from data folder .
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