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Posted

Awesome work, everything works fine. Also it'll be nice to have help of someone familiar with Lovers mechanics, especialy with camera modes.

 

I've browsed nexus for the purpose of adding something intresting to the game, as i always do from time to time... and there i've finded this great mod: 

http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/44337

 

It's intended to expand first person camera mode possibilities for views and animations both, as you can partly see from screens. It also has .ini file for configuring mod and allowing it to switch 3rd person animations(both vanila and from mods) to work for 1st person mode. It works just fine for my instalation, both vanila and some walking/jumping animations from mods looks working and compatible.

 

Then i've founded this video:

http://www.naughtymachinima.com/video/8638/09-149-fp-3dp

 

From 20 second you can see what goal of this message is...First person mode  through the character eyes avaible for Lovers animation... ;) But for me, when the Lovers animations starts (through the dialog or with the help of LoversTachiCat2 both) game is switching and locking to the 3rd person mode no matter how i change Enhanced First Person Camera setting. It also cannot be switched to the first person mode by the camera mode switching key.

 

So the question is: if there is some way trough the console camera commands or the mod settings, or any other way to achieve the goal described higher.

 

Thanks for reading this to the end :)

Posted

Thank you for all your hard work on this. I've been away from it for a while, but I recently reinstalled Oblivion and Lovers was always an important part of my load order back in the day. It's so great to see the impressive advancements that have been made through the years.

Posted

Greg

I have a new rig and after cursing the sh..t out of Asus and Microsoft over windows 8.1, I finally manage to stabilize my system to my liking and installed the latest LAPF.  I'm having trouble with NPC's ability to differentiate a bed from a chair, I mean the bed is right there but the NPC chooses a chair or table instead, I actually have to be almost in bed to have it work, so I'm wondering if it's the lover's bed plugin or the Lpk  itself.  Can you help me, please...lol

Posted
yosyoy, on 12 Feb 2014 - 09:38 AM, said:

Greg

I have a new rig and after cursing the sh..t out of Asus and Microsoft over windows 8.1, I finally manage to stabilize my system to my liking and installed the latest LAPF.  I'm having trouble with NPC's ability to differentiate a bed from a chair, I mean the bed is right there but the NPC chooses a chair or table instead, I actually have to be almost in bed to have it work, so I'm wondering if it's the lover's bed plugin or the Lpk  itself.  Can you help me, please...lol

 

or just a load order issue 

 

please provide more information like the load order

Posted

Erm, it might also be something very simple:

 

Some of the animations artificially SPAWN a table or chair and the like - it's hardcoded into the animation. You can easily check by tapping the grab key (default z) to change animation.

Posted

 

yosyoy, on 12 Feb 2014 - 09:38 AM, said:

Greg

I have a new rig and after cursing the sh..t out of Asus and Microsoft over windows 8.1, I finally manage to stabilize my system to my liking and installed the latest LAPF.  I'm having trouble with NPC's ability to differentiate a bed from a chair, I mean the bed is right there but the NPC chooses a chair or table instead, I actually have to be almost in bed to have it work, so I'm wondering if it's the lover's bed plugin or the Lpk  itself.  Can you help me, please...lol

 

or just a load order issue 

 

please provide more information like the load order

 

 

I've not installed as many lovers plugins yet,  as I'm trying to test them out before I get into complicated mods like Tomago and  such, but  this is the load order for the lovers'plugins:

 

LoversAdultPlusforSSP

LoversVoiceSSPplus

LoversBed

LoversWithPK

LoversBackup

SpermSlashEx

LoversRaperS

LoversMB2

LoversLight

LoversTrueCrimeEx

LoversAnimationPriority

LoversAnimationObjectPriority

 

And, of course, the LAPF Esm  in third place after Oblivion and AllNatural

 

It happens with all animations weather or not they'd be calling for an object.  So it may be the load for I tried the different Bed plugins there are, even the Bedaz (something like that) and the original, all the same.

 

Nevertheless evrething else is running very smooth.

Posted

Question: The dialogue that appears on screen during sex, where is that located?  Is that from LPK or something else?  I wanted to do some changes for a different flavor for myself, but I can't find where that is.  ><

Posted

hey guys iam just about to add LAPF to my mod list and i got few question

1.the version i use is AIO Complete experience form neskimo from hongfire but i modified everything remove all MBP (modular beautifull people and Race) and all mod that needs MBP as base including tamago dan hiyoko , and is it compatibe with LAFP...?

 

2. honestly i don't know which ver. lover pk i got since the 7.zip only got this "lover PK AIO 4.8"

3. i have download the file from loverlab site that comes with 7.zip, and with my current load order which one is better make .OMOD file or just copy install

4. my load order

 

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
02 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
03 Lovers with PK.esm
04 BreakUndies.esm
05 BUDungeon.esm
06 LoversCreature.esm
07 SDR.esm [Version 7.3.1]
08 ShieldOnBack.esm [Version 3.4.1]
09 UndiesUnderneath.esm
0A Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.1]
0B UOPS Additional Changes.esp
0C UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
0D Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0E DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0F Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.0]
10 USIPS Additional Changes.esp
11 AddActorValues_example.esp
12 AFK_PrayerIdles.esp [Version 1.0]
13 DID3_DoubleTrouble.esp
++ 1HweaponOnBack.esp [Version 1.0]
14 the punished girlbox.esp
15 Living Economy.esp
16 Living Economy - Items.esp
17 Cutthroat Merchants.esp
18 Populated Prisons.esp
19 P1DlookHereYou.esp
1A Streamline 3.1.esp
1B DLCHorseArmor.esp
1C DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]
1D DLCOrrery.esp
1E DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
1F DLCVileLair.esp
20 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]
21 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
22 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
23 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
24 VipCxj_HighHeels.esp
25 Slof's Horses Base.esp
26 Slof's Extra Horses.esp
27 Slof's Extra Horses 2.esp
28 DLCThievesDen.esp
29 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]
2A DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.5]
2B Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
2C Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]
2D TIE.esp [Version 1.48]
2E AdrenalineOblivion-SupportElements.esp
2F AdrenalineOblivion-SpawnElement.esp
30 Smarter Bandits.esp
31 Bandit Hideouts.esp
32 Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp [Version 3.1]
33 Housewives v101.esp
34 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
35 Trolls Under Bridges.esp
36 Whispered Warning.esp
37 BDBS - Whispered Warning Patch.esp
38 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
39 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
3A DLCFrostcrag.esp
3B DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
3C Knights.esp
3D Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2]
3E SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp [Version 1.30]
3F DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp [Version 1.1]
40 MONSTERGIRL-ANGELICALLIANCE.esp
41 MONSTERGIRL-DEMON HIVE.esp
42 MONSTERGIRL-AMAZON.esp
43 MONSTERGIRL-NECROMANCER MOON.esp
44 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2]
45 Realistic Hatred.esp
46 BUDungeonCore.esp
47 BUDequipmentNA.esp
48 BUEquipsMerge.esp
49 BUDungeonAppend.esp
4A LoversAdultYield.esp
4B LoversCalm.esp
4C LoversSetBody.esp
4D LoversSoundCreature.esp [Version 0.1.0]
4E LoversAphrodisia.esp
4F LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp
50 LoversFSE.esp
51 LoversDRader.esp
52 LoversHudInformation.esp [Version 1.02]
53 LoversRapeman.esp
54 LoversSummonRapeman.esp
55 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
56 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
57 LoversRaperS.esp
58 LoversJoburg.esp
59 LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp
5A LoversJealousy.esp
5B LoversBed.esp
5C LoversLoveJuice.esp
5D LoversPayBandit.esp
5E LoversPower.esp
5F LoversNTRburglar.esp
60 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96]
61 LoversCreature.esp
62 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3]
** LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp
++ LoversCreatureVoiceForceEnabler.esp
63 LoversSkirtFlipper.esp
64 LoversStopCombatEx.esp
65 LoversSpermSplashEx.esp
66 LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp
67 LoversRapeSlave.esp
68 LoversSlaveTrader.esp
++ ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp
69 LoversUtilityFunctions.esp
6A LoversBeatemUpS.esp
++ LeveledCreatureNT.esp
6B LoversMotionsNT.esp
++ GalerionUnarmoredAcrobatics.esp
6C Unholy Darkness.esp
6D SetBody.esp
6E EnchantmentRestore.esp
++ EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp
6F StolenItemOwnership.esp
++ SDR_Detect Life Shader Patch [Oblivion].esp [Version 5.0.0]
70 SDR_Perks And Patches [Oblivion].esp [Version 7.3.0]
71 KamiCAS.esp [Version 2.2]
++ X-Ray Detect.esp
72 MassA.I.esp
73 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
74 LoversMB2.esp
75 Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp
76 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
77 Lovers3dorgasm.esp
78 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

 

5. if it's help this is the Lover PK file

Lovers with PK.esmLovers with PK Extender.espLovers with PK.esp

 

if LAFP is compatible that would be great cuz i got problem with my current animation sometimes the work sometimes the erroe
and sometime they work but they got different animation from what i think and that animation is never end even after hours....

Ty for u'r time

Posted

Nobody here uses Hongfire mods, so we can't tell you if things are "compatible" or not. We also cannot provide support for mods from Hongfire.

My suggestion? Use files from one site or the other, but not both.

 

Considering the fact you have a bunch of old plugins, I can take a rough stab and say "Directly updating the main framework will cause errors", but I could be wrong.

Posted

I'd go further by saying: Do not update your current oblivion installation at all.

 

Reason is that you have so much rather old stuff installed, that cleanly removing all the ressources and plugins doesn't offer good odds. But without cleanly removing pretty much everything lovers related you have installed, updating will screw things up.

 

So yeah, sorry - stay with your current install, or get ready to reinstall oblivion. Updating in your circumstances is bound to go wrong and will cost you more time to fix things than reinstalling from scratch.

 

EDIT: About your current install - the only hint i can give if you have problems, is to disable lovers extender and everything that depends on it. Extender is was a can full of worms.

Posted

Nobody here uses Hongfire mods, so we can't tell you if things are "compatible" or not. We also cannot provide support for mods from Hongfire.

My suggestion? Use files from one site or the other, but not both.

 

Considering the fact you have a bunch of old plugins, I can take a rough stab and say "Directly updating the main framework will cause errors", but I could be wrong.

 

 

I'd go further by saying: Do not update your current oblivion installation at all.

 

Reason is that you have so much rather old stuff installed, that cleanly removing all the ressources and plugins doesn't offer good odds. But without cleanly removing pretty much everything lovers related you have installed, updating will screw things up.

 

So yeah, sorry - stay with your current install, or get ready to reinstall oblivion. Updating in your circumstances is bound to go wrong and will cost you more time to fix things than reinstalling from scratch.

 

EDIT: About your current install - the only hint i can give if you have problems, is to disable lovers extender and everything that depends on it. Extender is was a can full of worms.

 

base on this for better thing i guess need to re-install everything.... well not a problem for me

 

then here's a follow up question

 

out of everything list of mod... exclude lovers mod like ( i will unnistal all lover mod )

 

1. DLC SI and other DLC from TGOY edition

2. Sneaking Detection Recalibrated (SDR)

3. Kamikazes Combat Animation Selector (KamiCAS)

4. all Unofficial Patch

5. Enchantment Restore

6. Galerion Unarmored Acrobatics

7. HUD status Bars

8. SM Plugin Refurbish

9. all dark brotherhood improvment

10. Tamriel Immersion Experience (TIE)

11. Male body

12. HGEC female body with no MaaM

13.  Living Economy

14. Cutthroat Merchants

15. Populated Prisons

16.  P1DlookHereYou

17. Streamline 3.1 and other graphic  FPS improvment

18. Damsel in Distress 3

19. shield on back and ih weapon on back series..

 

all above list of mods...., will it work with LAPF....?

 

and another thing Break Undies will it work too since it include in lovers PK AIO from hongfire neskimo

 

just to make sure before i re-install everything tomorrow

 

ty again for Vaelorian and Rynak777

Posted

The only mod from your list that could potentially conflict is "Kamikazes Combat Animation Selector (KamiCAS)".

I don't actually know what it does, so try to have it active with LAPF and see if there are errors.

 

Break Undies should in theory not conflict, but you should probably just update to Break Armor: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/13907-break-armor-framework/

And if you are looking for more breakable armors, check this thread: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/8661-bu-armors-compilation/

Posted

Any mod that changes/interfaces with animation and skeletons -might- conflict if it is scripted and uses certain functions. For most animation plugins, this is not the case, but you only know until you try (unless you're willing to delve into the plugin code in CS). Another class of plugins that can conflict (you'll know when you get invisible or "crucified" bodies), is plugins that modify the camera.

 

From the list you posted, if you encounter issues, i'd first - one by one - disable the following ones:

 

- Kamikazes Combat Animation Selector (KamiCAS)

- Galerion Unarmored Acrobatics  (depends on if it modifies animations by script)

- P1DlookHereYou (if it uses a custom skeleton)

 

AFAIK, nothing on your list HAS to conflict. The above are just ones which could perhaps conflict (just try it).

 

Not really related to loversPK, but any overhaul mod - especially running multiple ones - is a conflict magnet. On the other hand, overhaul mods can add a lot to the gameplay. The reason for overhaul mods being conflict magnets, isn't just that they change a lot of things, but more importantly that plugins can change things far less fine-grained than you would expect. Take for example a plugin that changes horse speeds: You'd expect that it only changes the speed of horses, but not the other attributes of horses. Wrong: A plugin changes either all attributes and parameters of a creature, or none at all. That means: Even if said horse-speed plugin only changes the speed, it will - if it is later in loadorder - overwrite all other horse attributes with the vanilla settings - thus undoing any changes another plugin might have made beforehand. It is similiar for other things - i.e. races. Or most infamously: levelled lists.

 

This is part of the purpose of the so called "bashed patch". A bashed patch isn't just there to merge plugins into a single plugin, so that you have less plugins. The other purpose of a bashed patch, is to mostly solve the above problem: If multiple plugins modify the same thing, but different attributes of it, then the bashed patch combines those changes, so that they do not overwrite each other. I myself use a bashed patch for just this reason: I have no need to reduce plugin count, because i don't have too many plugins. Thus tell WryeBash to not merge plugins. I do however have plugins that make changes to the same things, so i tell WryeBash to merge them.

 

There's no guarantee that this will solve all issues of an overhaul mod - or even multiple of them. But it does strongly increase the odds.

 

 

Posted

base on Vaelorian and rynak777 i decide to clean unninstall

and hope it will works

and after re-research all my mod just like u said the KAMICas it is indead break my animation it loads seperate .ini but with the same numbering with lever animation
not only that old animation .. i mean really old found in my resource pack few years ago u know like rev 94 resource pack 
base on this i going for complete download all lovers mod i need from here and with base LAPF
after that i got clean .ini animation in ini folder

and this make me think in LAPF 1.4 7.zip there are no lover PK ekstender like my old one....., do we not need pk ekstender anymor with LAPF system...?

as for the 2 mods

Galerion Unarmored Acrobatics only modify game changes like acrobatic leveling system soo i keep this mod and hope for the best

P1DlookHereYou don't use custom skeletion but i can't find any detail in nexusmod soo i drop this mod


and once again ty to you guys
 
edited: now it works properly aleardy confirm it just now
finishing 1st mission smoothly without error on both normal and sex animation

Posted

Lovers Extender was never *required* by any mod. I believe Gregathit has updated it for the AP framework, so if you want it you can ask him where the download link is.

The extender was created to grant you some limited interaction within the Lovers system (which are otherwise little more than cutscenes).

Posted

Yep, PK extender has a patch that makes it compatible with the LAPF.  You install the Normal PK Extender and then the patch at the very top of post 2:  

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/218-lovers-with-pk-extender-243-re-up/

 

 

Please don't mix ANYTHING from Hongfire with the Lovers mods here as that is a sure fire way to wreck your game.  The plugins are different translations, different script changes and in many cases different dependencies.  Plus if you mix and match then neither site can provide any support to you if things go wrong.

Posted

Lovers Extender was never *required* by any mod. I believe Gregathit has updated it for the AP framework, so if you want it you can ask him where the download link is.

The extender was created to grant you some limited interaction within the Lovers system (which are otherwise little more than cutscenes).

 

 

Yep, PK extender has a patch that makes it compatible with the LAPF.  You install the Normal PK Extender and then the patch at the very top of post 2:  

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/218-lovers-with-pk-extender-243-re-up/

 

 

Please don't mix ANYTHING from Hongfire with the Lovers mods here as that is a sure fire way to wreck your game.  The plugins are different translations, different script changes and in many cases different dependencies.  Plus if you mix and match then neither site can provide any support to you if things go wrong.

 

yes i found the link of pk ekstender from this site and downlaod both file (patch beta and 2.4.3 pk ekstender)

 

and just install it and now it works fine

 

 

and yes i learn my lesson and delete my old plug in and re download from this site with the one i need

as for another question i will ask at technical support

 

ty again

Posted

now it is my turn !!!

 

i encountered some funny things in game after installing tamagoo v1.15  and blockhead.dll     the worst part was with actor value.dll

sure of a load order issue i have removed most of file.esp to leave only all loversplugins    after testing several (lot of) time i still get wirdo things    like some lagging, stuttering,  and icones of clogs or breechers are different depends on inventury : npc, pc, and chest.

 

the most astonishing is when i started to remove loversplugins to see where is the culprit      and i find my self as a dimb  !!!

saying to my self it can not be that one i simply deactivated   loversmb2  and every thing went as paradise  no crashes no alert 'bing'  even had my female charcter had her first wolf child with no complications :P

 

now to my probleme    loversmb2 can not be the culprit  but something in obse has integer it !!!!!!          the esp is not activated but is running in game   :  the spell is here and animations are running when i cast it

when i remove it from data folder        obse does not even launch it quits directly with no warning :s

 

this must be an install probleme   but i can not understand the why ???     and how can it be possible ???

can it be that loversmb2.esp has a script that is conflicting somewhere with obse ???        is there anyway  to avoid a reinstall ???

 

load order for now :

Oblivion.esm

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

Lovers with PK.esm

TamagoClub.esm

HiyokoClub.esm

LoversCreature.esm

LCShiveringIsles.esp

Specialanims.esp

RMDailyIncomeV2.esp

TamagoPlayerHUD.esp

TamagoBreak.esp

TamagoNews.esp

TamagoTopic.esp

LoversTamagoClub.esp

LoversEncounter.esp

HiyokoQuestTarget.esp

HiyokoGenetics.esp

HiyokoGenerator.esp

HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp

TamagoSetBody.esp

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp

LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp

LoversRaperS.esp

LoversSlavePlay.esp

LoversBed.esp

Lovers with PK.esp

LoversBitch.esp

LoversAchievments.esp

LoversCreature.esp

Lovers with PK Extender.esp

LoversHooker.esp

LoversSpermSplashEx.esp

LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp

LoversRapeSlave.esp

SetBody.esp

LoversMB2 here but not activate

Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

Lovers3dorgasm.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp







DarkUId_DarN_16_OMOD_Version-11280

OBSE:(version = 21.4 010201A0)

oblivion root = C:\My Games\Oblivion\

 



 

Posted

?? can't help , but  Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp needs  LoversMB2 as master file. Funny that your game don't crash when you deactivate MB2 but crash when you when you remove it from data folder .

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