poporaltemporal Posted January 30, 2023 Author Posted January 30, 2023 Had bit of a hassle today so will take time off from modding and get bed early. Will think of some design problems with sex addiction however. Most likely sex addiction will work somewhat this way. - It has 3 stages - More you sex per day / hour will trigger increase in score which will contribute into stage rising - from stage 1 to 3 at stage 1 dragonborn will feel mild crave for sex and gets satiated easily. At stage 2 dragonborn need to contribute more time into sex to fulfill her / his desires. At stage 3 dragonborn will lose satiation quickly. - All of this will be emphasized with the thought system, chat lines, comments from NPCs. I also would like to implement rape at least to stage 3 where player will tremble and has difficulty to approach those that she/he feels appealing. - Hope that I can implement similar and nice blowjob popup as in SL survival which will have options based on the state of the player. Balancing: - I am not completely sure how requiring / annoying this feature should be. - Also this feature needs some gameplay debuff if case you neglect your need. This could also turn really annoying but well it might be its purpose. Perhaps PC would automatically tease at those that he/she would think appealing. And that could lead into rape or her/him getting injured. - Possible effects: IMAD on high arousal and high addiction(HAHA), dropping weapon on HAHA, automatic teasing on some events aka follower killing enemy etc, player could drop "greets" to followers and enemies calling them to fuck her? Note: This overlaps by design with the original harlot curse design so I am not sure what is left to it. Probably sanguine will emphasize other aspects of hedonism and Harlot is bound to serve sanguine and noble men. Design notes of that is still unclear.
poporaltemporal Posted January 30, 2023 Author Posted January 30, 2023 I might add HN66 hands to harlot morph and perhaps way to change nail colors. I asked HN66 permission for this long time ago for similar mod as one I am doing right now that never really flew off. If I am doing this I would hope that 1) the hands still work with 3BA 2) the hands won't take equipment slot. (aka I can set them as replacer with Racemenu scripts). In case I would go this path nails I would use would be the "mage nails" that are longer. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/4738
poporaltemporal Posted January 30, 2023 Author Posted January 30, 2023 I am struggling with setting up packages. I tried to make "spectator" package which would move NPC to player and stay and perhaps play an idle. The spectator package does play but what happens is that even the package is running some other package gets priority and the NPCs continue on. If anyone has good ideas of how tos or examples I would appreciate them.
poporaltemporal Posted February 1, 2023 Author Posted February 1, 2023 Had couple of days off. Worked on design and quest design. Thought. Will continue MoaH Introduction like so: Once Tricster is summoned he will approach player: Sanguine: <laughs> You could have knocked but you certainly ram the door in. <looks at your red sore clit> You: <blushing you cant but gag still naked you cover yourself> Sanguine: Oh you did quite good job I did get your call didn't I? You: I.. guess so. <you let a faint smile> Sanguine: I see that you did do what I asked. This is a matter we need to settle but we may have some fun doing so too. You: <Nod> Sanguine: <turns to Tara> I sense you are not so pleased with me. Tara: Oh you have the nerve. Look at me! Sanguine: Why are you angry at me you still have your will don't you? Wasn't that the bargain you asked for? Tara: <is furious> I did not ask to become a spirit! It was difficult time in that soulgem. Sanguine: But you got what you asked didn't you? Tara: <sighs> I asked to be let gone of that awful brain melting curse. Sanguine: Yes? And you have your thoughts now don't you? Tara: Yes... But look at me! Sanguine: State your body had become this was the only thing I could do. Sanguine: You needed time off so the soulgem was perfect setting for that. Now that you see and have heard the options you can be wiser. Tara: You.... Sanguine: Now now, everything will have its time. Sanguine: <turns to you> We can talk about Tara later. Now we have to talk about you. Sanguine: Harmeous Mora let me on few secrets. That can help you and Tara. Its urgent that we start on you before you lose your mind to it. Sanguine: I am willing to strike bargain with you. I will help you with this and you won't lose your body. This will require you to devote to me however. You: <What else can I do? > I will do anything to stop this craze! What you want of me? Sanguine: <ponders and snap his fingers book appears to his hands> You could say that these are the instructions and also agreement. This book will provide you with calm. Sanguine: <give the book to you> Read it I am not in such a hurry. <received book of an harlot> <read it> <As you close the book you note you feel bit calmer> Sanguine: I know its not the best piece of literature. One who wrote it ventured little further the road you are on. But she found ways to control it. As I found it bit amusing I let her little hand with it too. <laughs> You: What? An harlot? What does this mean. Sanguine: Oh, it was her way of wanting to describe it. Lets say.. she found ways to keep it control. Those are her thoughts. They did work. Tara was not the only one they worked on. !Callona Lyllaud <breton>! was a lucky one that found her way out. They learnt to lock the cellar after that <laughs> Sanguine: I am not sure where Callona got. Last rumor my minions got from her was that she was in the Nightgate Inn. My servant got the book but once I was looking for her again she had left. Sanguine: It was said she was heading to Windhelm but she was not to be found there. Sanguine: Anyway.. How do you feel. Are you willing to hold on the agreement? You: It is bit much for me right now. Do you require anything of me now? Sanguine: Just few things. Don't become so cocky with me. Now do you agree to serve me? You: <you think of what has happend and the guiding force that led you in the situation>. Yes, I do agree. Sanguine: <smiles> good I had been awfully disappointed if you let this all be for nothing. Sanguine: Now that we have settled that. <snap his fingers and dremora spawns in the room> This is... oh you can just call him Jeeves. Dremora names are such an hassle after all. Jeeves will work as my hand in this cellar. He will provide you with things that help you keep your mind on track. If you come by any dear possessions others of Jeeves will also buy those from you. Sanguine: Oh and don't worry him being here. No one will find the cellar. I will renew that illusion that was done to the hatch. No one will know even that this cellar existed. Sanguine: One more thing. Then I will let you go. As project of mine. I want to meet you time to time. Just to see how you are faring. You were always such a fun amusing thing to observe. Sanguine: I also have a departing gift for you. *snaps his fingers. You feel sharp pinch on your crotch when you look there you see your clit pierced* You: What is this?!?! Sanguine: now now, when someone gives you a gift what do you say? You: ... Thank you. Sanguine: It was not so difficult wasnt it? Sanguine: You will know what the time is right. Tataa *waves and disappear* 1
poporaltemporal Posted February 1, 2023 Author Posted February 1, 2023 Work in progress "How to be a good harlot" Signed Callone ❤️ Good harlots will please. <SLSO?> pleasing of others, while holding on. Will help you. Be a good harlot and please. <SLSO minigame if you pleasure self you will lose mind instead of gaining it?> Good harlots wont shame. Good harlots will enjoy. Good harlots wont shame to enjoy. (gain exhibitionist?) Good harlots will enjoy and take what is offered. <won't refuse offered act> Good harlots don't spill a drop when one comes in her mouth. There is soothing effect that I cannot describe. So be a good harlot and swallow. <cum satiation> Good harlots are always ready and good harlots stay wet. <tease + arousal>? Good harlots take care of themselves. Attention is your best friend. Embrace it and it will embrace you. <tease> Good harlots will shine. Make other girls want to do better. <make other girls jealous. Morphs, nails, heels> Good harlots won't say no. When you are desired please. <SLHH / rape give up> Good harlots are proud and wont feel down.
poporaltemporal Posted February 1, 2023 Author Posted February 1, 2023 Jeeves barter NOTE: probably not final naming of items. Sells: Grow breasts concoction ++/+/-/-- Round ass concoction ++/+/-/-- Hourglass body concoction ++/+/-/-- <I might try some "makeup kits" that add makeup with Nioverride> <Sanguines harlot satiation potions -- will help player to keep her mind> <if I can cum alchemy items> <If I can integrate mage nails by HN66 different manicures> <scrolls> <staves> <perhaps few unique spells/spells> <nipple, labia and clit piercings> <soulgems> Buys: Stolen "dear possession items". -- Player can steal some items that are randomly generated to npcs. These can be bit humorous like Brynjolf teddy bear/ brynjolfs favorite underwear etc... <sell item types> NOTE: these are design notes and I will fill those that I can do first and implement features like "dear possessions" in one go.
poporaltemporal Posted February 1, 2023 Author Posted February 1, 2023 Manicure, makeup, heels, exhibitionism (+ showing piercings), probably contribute to following: - NPCs notes you easier - In spectator mode NPCs won't leave you so easily if your score is high. - High arousal sexists NPCs. Might rush on you. - Women get jealous. - Men get boost in arousal exposure - Self confidence that is used in thoughts mechanism
poporaltemporal Posted February 1, 2023 Author Posted February 1, 2023 Ways to get harlot satiation: Potions from sanguine quests. Potions from Jeeves. Reading good harlot notes (once per day) Following the notes in the harlot notes Praying to Aedra -- this is redemption feature which I am not yet completely sure how it works and will come after you can actually do sin. Sanguine will consider this as betrayal. I will see how this balances out. Satiation is probably easy to keep at bay but ones Sanguine calls you if you don't immediately answer then it gets harder. It might be that sanguine calls you at point when it gets to be difficult to control. This time should be around about 1 week of game time.
poporaltemporal Posted February 1, 2023 Author Posted February 1, 2023 When player is losing her mind she: - Cant resist urge to swallow cum. - She will beg at some point to have cock in her. - She won't have option to refuse even from cock in her ass. - I would like to have forced tease but that will require to be able to do it similar way as toys is doing fondle and I am not sure how that actually works. Player would be able to walk slowly and maybe only grope her own breast. - When active flirting trigger-- aka NPC enjoys dragonborn body part if player would talk to the NPC in this case the flirt might become forced? Otherwise its optional. In this case if player cancels the dialogue the dialogue will expire and the blocking dialogue wont block. I am also considering to remove the option on dialogue end if that is possible. - Masturbation won't help. - IMAD effect. Screen will blur just a little - Over done voice effects related to slapping, tease and sex? - If visit to sanguine is overdo. The clit piercing will cause PC to tremble and fall on ground and lose all stamina on orgasms. Sanguine might also send dremora to get the PC in case she is very late.
poporaltemporal Posted February 1, 2023 Author Posted February 1, 2023 Harlot curse satiation Sanguine effects fill satiation but the same time those speed up hunger. Different effects have probably different scores. For example swallowing cum can satiate you say 5 point but at the same time it speeds up hunger for 5% for 2 hours Aedra will help the player to get to balance their ways give fewer satiation but slowly kill the hunger -5% hunger for 6 hours.
poporaltemporal Posted February 1, 2023 Author Posted February 1, 2023 I still have tiny bit issue with SLAT sex addiction and harlot. Those overlap a bit. But I think that SLAT SA will be much simpler. Or better yet MoaH harlot curse actually uses it as a base.
poporaltemporal Posted February 2, 2023 Author Posted February 2, 2023 Created Jeeves. Setted up his factions. And his vendor chest. Made first version of the "book of harlots".
poporaltemporal Posted February 4, 2023 Author Posted February 4, 2023 Looked into applying mage nails with script. Its easy but actor .EquipItem takes biped slot which I do not like. There has been some mods that change body types of npcs etc.. Guess there has to be a way to change hands too without taking biped slot.
poporaltemporal Posted February 4, 2023 Author Posted February 4, 2023 At least autobodies mod used its own .dll. Which I am not ready to make. So for now I use CK functions. Unless someone tells me API that makes it possible to change body parts.
Leoosp Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, poporaltemporal said: At least autobodies mod used its own .dll. Which I am not ready to make. So for now I use CK functions. Unless someone tells me API that makes it possible to change body parts. @poporaltemporal Which body parts are you referring to and in what way? If you mean inflation then SLIF may be of aid if it's amputation then Amputation Framework Tweaked may be of aid. Though if it is whole body appearance then Immersive Fashion Tweaked (Mod Features - Sexlab Survival Details - LoversLab or Monoman's Mod Tweaks - Other - LoversLab) would be of help, though it's only usable with the Player Character. With Immersive Fashion Tweaked from Monoman1 it has had quite a few bugs fixed, other changes and additions. Also a bit of feedback for the GitHub repository its great that your doing this open source (or open to contribution), however it will not aid contributors if the descriptions for the issues are empty. This prevents the issue being properly understood so developers will find it harder to contribute, due to lack of understanding of issue. So please fill in the empty open and/or closed issues as well as pull requests so people can understand them better. Plus may I recommend setting up templates for issues and pull requests on GitHub. Also setup the necessary .gitignore file with the templates and/or template folder included. Edited February 4, 2023 by Leoosp
Leoosp Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) @poporaltemporal What will the sex toys involve? If someone can't downgrade to SSE for some reason then I'm Walkin' Here at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com) would be a good alternate to recommend from Disable Follower Collision. Though Disable Follower Collision is usable in Skyrim LE. The reason being Disable Follower Collision hasn't been updated for the 1.6.x series of Skyrim SE, so it will not work and I'm Walkin' Here will work with that version series. I would also recommend the following:- Papyrus Tweaks NG at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com) powerofthree's Tweaks at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com) SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin) at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com) SSE Display Tweaks at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com) Scrambled Bugs at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com) Edited February 4, 2023 by Leoosp
poporaltemporal Posted February 5, 2023 Author Posted February 5, 2023 18 hours ago, Leoosp said: @poporaltemporal Which body parts are you referring to and in what way? If you mean inflation then SLIF may be of aid if it's amputation then Amputation Framework Tweaked may be of aid. Though if it is whole body appearance then Immersive Fashion Tweaked (Mod Features - Sexlab Survival Details - LoversLab or Monoman's Mod Tweaks - Other - LoversLab) would be of help, though it's only usable with the Player Character. With Immersive Fashion Tweaked from Monoman1 it has had quite a few bugs fixed, other changes and additions. Right now only hands but maybe feet as well. Amputation framework is out of question if it only supports player. I am also not very fund of monomans tweaks since I had never really luck with them. I also would not like to make dependency to such frameworks because the requirements are kinda exploding in my hands already. Hopefully I can cut those down on some parts. Amputation framework was good suggestion though. Since its handling these things somehow. 18 hours ago, Leoosp said: Also a bit of feedback for the GitHub repository its great that your doing this open source (or open to contribution), however it will not aid contributors if the descriptions for the issues are empty. This prevents the issue being properly understood so developers will find it harder to contribute, due to lack of understanding of issue. So please fill in the empty open and/or closed issues as well as pull requests so people can understand them better. Plus may I recommend setting up templates for issues and pull requests on GitHub. Also setup the necessary .gitignore file with the templates and/or template folder included. For now even the repository is public its not "open source". This is because skyrim way of handling mod development really does not support many contributors as all things are in one esp file. The family of mods are currently in development and the ticket system comes to use when the mod is released. Tickets are mainly for my own notes and tests for now. I have to see if I can disable them for now at least from public so those dont confuse anyone. For example SLAT will have many features that mod makers can expand if they want to. Since its kind of framework. MoaH will use its features which also will provide example. You are free to check what I have done and use scripts or features you can find in the repository. I do mind though that resource files that you might find in the repository are most likely from mod creators or other authors which are not free to use.
poporaltemporal Posted February 5, 2023 Author Posted February 5, 2023 18 hours ago, Leoosp said: @poporaltemporal What will the sex toys involve? Sex toys are only for quest story content. The mod won't be required it was simply an inspiration. 18 hours ago, Leoosp said: If someone can't downgrade to SSE for some reason then I'm Walkin' Here at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com) would be a good alternate to recommend from Disable Follower Collision. Though Disable Follower Collision is usable in Skyrim LE. I wasn't aware of this mod. Thank you for the recommendation. NPCs bumping you and moving you looks really stupid and is really stupid. 18 hours ago, Leoosp said: The reason being Disable Follower Collision hasn't been updated for the 1.6.x series of Skyrim SE, so it will not work and I'm Walkin' Here will work with that version series. Bummer. What I read of the "I am walking here" its features don't completely replace "Disable Follower Collision" or does it? "Disable Follower Collision" is basically required for MoaH. 18 hours ago, Leoosp said: I would also recommend the following:- Papyrus Tweaks NG at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com) powerofthree's Tweaks at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com) SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin) at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com) SSE Display Tweaks at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com) Scrambled Bugs at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com) Good list most of should be listed in MoaH repo. 3po tweaks are required by SPID and KID which will be requirement for MoaH and SLAT. I am not sure of the Scrambled Bugs though.
Leoosp Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 20 minutes ago, poporaltemporal said: Right now only hands but maybe feet as well. Amputation framework is out of question if it only supports player. I am also not very fund of monomans tweaks since I had never really luck with them. I also would not like to make dependency to such frameworks because the requirements are kinda exploding in my hands already. Hopefully I can cut those down on some parts. Amputation framework was good suggestion though. Since its handling these things somehow. For now even the repository is public its not "open source". This is because skyrim way of handling mod development really does not support many contributors as all things are in one esp file. The family of mods are currently in development and the ticket system comes to use when the mod is released. Tickets are mainly for my own notes and tests for now. I have to see if I can disable them for now at least from public so those dont confuse anyone. For example SLAT will have many features that mod makers can expand if they want to. Since its kind of framework. MoaH will use its features which also will provide example. You are free to check what I have done and use scripts or features you can find in the repository. I do mind though that resource files that you might find in the repository are most likely from mod creators or other authors which are not free to use. Your mistaken on the Amputation Framework as Slaverun Reloaded uses it to amputate body parts from another actor not Player Character.
Leoosp Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 17 minutes ago, poporaltemporal said: Sex toys are only for quest story content. The mod won't be required it was simply an inspiration. I wasn't aware of this mod. Thank you for the recommendation. NPCs bumping you and moving you looks really stupid and is really stupid. Bummer. What I read of the "I am walking here" its features don't completely replace "Disable Follower Collision" or does it? "Disable Follower Collision" is basically required for MoaH. Good list most of should be listed in MoaH repo. 3po tweaks are required by SPID and KID which will be requirement for MoaH and SLAT. I am not sure of the Scrambled Bugs though. Scrambled Bugs has at least a couple of Crash Fixes in it so I have installed it so I get those, also makes non-crash related fixes.
poporaltemporal Posted February 5, 2023 Author Posted February 5, 2023 19 hours ago, Leoosp said: @poporaltemporal Also a bit of feedback for the GitHub repository its great that your doing this open source (or open to contribution), however it will not aid contributors if the descriptions for the issues are empty. This prevents the issue being properly understood so developers will find it harder to contribute, due to lack of understanding of issue. So please fill in the empty open and/or closed issues as well as pull requests so people can understand them better. Plus may I recommend setting up templates for issues and pull requests on GitHub. Also setup the necessary .gitignore file with the templates and/or template folder included. Thinking about the open source and contribution still. Once the mod is in shape that its somehow stable I might open tasks for KID and SPID things as. It takes time to seek proper NPCs for say hedonism, sexism etc.. I am also considering to add Harlot features such as long nails and makeup etc.. as SPID spreadable features. Harlot features have to land on same NPCs so it would probably need to be written so that SPID first seeks proper NPCs and add keyword for the lets say the keyword name is "eligible_for_harlot_changes". Then when the keyword is distributed then SPID spreads random nails / polish, morphs and makeup on those actors that have the keyword. Doing this is time consuming and there for need help for it. I am also I am not naturally English speaking person and lines I write might be completely bull so I greatly appreciate if people comment on the line I write. The lines that I write here. Are quickly implemented in game though so its best to comment the ones on the ESP. However for now its still too early for that since the lines and implementation are still changing.
poporaltemporal Posted February 5, 2023 Author Posted February 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, Leoosp said: Your mistaken on the Amputation Framework as Slaverun Reloaded uses it to amputate body parts from another actor not Player Character. I have misunderstood your comment about the the thing. Since I did not try the framework. Quote If you mean inflation then SLIF may be of aid if it's amputation then Amputation Framework Tweaked may be of aid. Though if it is whole body appearance then Immersive Fashion Tweaked (Mod Features - Sexlab Survival Details - LoversLab or Monoman's Mod Tweaks - Other - LoversLab) would be of help, though it's only usable with the Player Character. Need to look into it. I am afraid that the framework simply uses some mask hack to deal with these things and equips on biped slots.
poporaltemporal Posted February 5, 2023 Author Posted February 5, 2023 26 minutes ago, Leoosp said: Your mistaken on the Amputation Framework as Slaverun Reloaded uses it to amputate body parts from another actor not Player Character. Looked into Amputator Framework and sadly and cleverly it uses node scale to do its magic. I want to replace actor hands with different ones which can't be done like this. I am not familiar on how Creation Kit FXs work. I know that its possible to render different object in place of another and modifying those values can be done with Nioverride and creation kit. For example sexlab survival replaces some mushrooms with cock models when the player is cum addicted.
Leoosp Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, poporaltemporal said: Looked into Amputator Framework and sadly and cleverly it uses node scale to do its magic. I want to replace actor hands with different ones which can't be done like this. I am not familiar on how Creation Kit FXs work. I know that its possible to render different object in place of another and modifying those values can be done with Nioverride and creation kit. For example sexlab survival replaces some mushrooms with cock models when the player is cum addicted. Also try looking at the code for "Moonlight Tales - Werewolf and Werebear Essentials at Skyrim Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com)" as well as "Being a Cow (Alternate Version) - Downloads - SexLab Framework LE - LoversLab". You can with Papyrus via SKSE and/or SKSE plugin perform mesh and/or texture swapping on the fly which would change the appearance of the hand and/or feet. You really should take a look at the code for "Being a Cow (Alternate Version)" its scripting source code, will likely definitely help as it performs a full character transformation and the latest version can cover other actors (not the player character). Edited February 5, 2023 by Leoosp
poporaltemporal Posted February 5, 2023 Author Posted February 5, 2023 23 minutes ago, Leoosp said: Also try looking at the code for "Moonlight Tales - Werewolf and Werebear Essentials at Skyrim Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com)" as well as "Being a Cow (Alternate Version) - Downloads - SexLab Framework LE - LoversLab". You can with Papyrus via SKSE and/or SKSE plugin perform mesh and/or texture swapping on the fly which would change the appearance of the hand and/or feet. You really should take a look at the code for "Being a Cow (Alternate Version)" its scripting source code, will likely definitely help as it performs a full character transformation and the latest version can cover other actors (not the player character). Textures modification is not enough for me. Many of people did it before and you can use slave tats etc for that but that kinda makes bullshit stuff. Because you can't ever physically grow nails and the blending / shine never gets right like that. I looked in the CK now and I believe I found away to do the thing SL survival way. Its bit tedious and the shaders are bit bad in ways of performance. By combining Nioverride shader overrides special effects and debris in the CK it should be possible. Will continue looking into this as if this is possible many others might want to do nails and polish this way.
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