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Posted

I installed both the MNC Draugrs Patch and the MNC Skeletons HD Patch, immediately following MNC in the load order as shown in the guide, However, going through Dustman's Cairn I still saw stretched draugrs. Is a new game required for the fix to work?

 

Also, I note that both patches have files overridden by ABC, is that to be expected?  Thanks.

Posted (edited)

Note: Don't update when you're half asleep.

 

@PubliusNV

Thanks, now they are in the order i got them here. Fixed

__________________________________________________

 

Community shaders don't play nice with AE. Once you change an area the chance for a CTD increases massively.

Edited by Aylis
Posted

Hi, thank you for the incredible work!

 

I have Skyrim AE (1.6.1170.0) with the DLC. Do I need the Creation Club / Curation Club content?

I'm following your guide until the "NPC" section. The RS Children Overhaul CC patch has some of the patch I would assume is needed, but I'm missing one esl, probably from not having the Curation Club content. Is it safe not to have them or are they required even with the DLC installed?

 

Also, is it safe for me not to use Citizens of Tamriel and Interesting NPC? I want to get involved with the vanilla NPCs first and more NPCs would overwhelm me.

 

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Posted

@buxxuc30

Well, you won't be able to use a patch if something is missing. So either you install the CCC or don't use the patch.

 

The two mods can be skipped.

 

Bethesda added some camps and encounters, but without the additions the game still feels quite empty. Atm i'm checking out 'Wandering Merchants - Skyrim and Solstheim' to fill the last gap for NPC in the game.

Posted

@buxxuc30 To add to what Aylis said, MO2 will also warn you if you install a mod that is missing its prerequisite. Double click "Notifications" on the bottom right of MO2. If you don't see it there, that means that MO2 hasn't found anything to notify you about, but it will appear when you're missing a mod. The missing mod will be listed under Missing Masters on the notifications pop-up. Any plugin labeled something like "cc[random letters].esl" is a CC addon that you don't have.

 

That being said, if you have the extra $20 or whatever it is, I'd opt for buying them. They come as one big AE package now. Most are decent-to-good and you'll get a lot more out of the list if you own them.

Posted (edited)

Thank you both, I thought by purchasing the DLC it also gives me some Creation Club content, so I'd still need parts of the patch.

 

If you don't mind me asking, do the recommended CC from the first post overlap with the DLC addons? For example as I've searched the DLC Anniversary Upgrade has Camping, Fishing...etc and your CC list also has them (The Curation Club mod on Nexus says it's not working currently so that's why I didn't download it and thus missing a few things on your guide list)

I haven't played the DLC so I wasn't sure what are in it, got it on sale a long time ago.

Edited by buxxuc30
Posted

There's some confusion, and I think it's entirely Bethesda's fault.

 

The AE update will give you all the CCs (fishing, farming, everything). But in addition to that, Bethesda has started selling their own mods, which they list as "Creations". Those are separate and aren't part of AE. I can't speak for any of them because I haven't bought them (and probably won't). If you get AE then the list will cover you completely. It doesn't cover any of the paid mods.

Posted
4 hours ago, wollboi said:

The AE update will give you all the CCs (fishing, farming, everything). But in addition to that, Bethesda has started selling their own mods, which they list as "Creations". Those are separate and aren't part of AE

And its more confusing than that. There are 2 versions of AE. Theres the free upgrade AE, which either everyone got, or anyone buying now without the Anniversary Upgrade get, and the Anniversary Upgrade. The basic AE comes with Fishing, Survival, Saints & Seducers and Rare Curios CC, the Anniversary Update comes with all the other old CC content. Confusingly, theres also a split between mods, some (like USSEP) see the 4 free CCs as part of the base game, others still treat them as CC content.

Posted

Yeah and as a recently come back player I'm so confused as to which CC content in the Anniversary Update or the free AE should I turn off or which one need a patch. :( Do you guys play with the Survival mode on?

Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, buxxuc30 said:

Yeah and as a recently come back player I'm so confused as to which CC content in the Anniversary Update or the free AE should I turn off or which one need a patch. :( Do you guys play with the Survival mode on?

You will want to leave the free AE content enabled. The paid AE content is up to personal preference. There are patches throughout the list for a lot of the AE content that you can use if you have them enabled. The big one to disable would be the Tundra Homestead CC because it conflicts with city overhauls.

Edited by _Warhawk_
Posted (edited)

@Bigglsby @wollboi

Very nice finds. 👍

 

I'll take a look.

 

 

@buxxuc30

Check out post #7.

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Tried a few additions for small towns and locations. Only two will be added. The rest was not so great with flickering lights, way too clean interiors, textures not complementing the ones we use and so on.

 

Too bad that 'Depths of Skyrim' is quite unstable. I would have loved to add it. 

Edited by Aylis
Posted
4 hours ago, buxxuc30 said:

Yeah and as a recently come back player I'm so confused as to which CC content in the Anniversary Update or the free AE should I turn off or which one need a patch. :( Do you guys play with the Survival mode on?

I don't play with the vanilla sirvival mode, I use mods for that. Personally I don't like how eating an entire bag of apples has the same effect as a single serving of thin fish soup.

Also with mods you get to change what they do instead of a single unchangable block.

Posted (edited)

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Detection Meter - AE Support                                                     👍

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Fixed Mesh Lighting                                                                       Instructions required. Split into own files? Issues with DynDOLOD.

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Lakeview Manor - Fish Hatchery                                                    👍

Origins Of Forest - Lakeview Manor Patch                                     👍

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Interesting NPCs Visual Overhaul                                                   👍

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Mage Clothing Expansion                                                               👍

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Traveling Mage - HIMBO

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Forgotten Vale Portal Textures - Cubemaps - Environment maps

Subtle eye cubemap                                                                       👍

     Use this ONLY if you find completely black eyes.

Less glowy spider drool                                                                    👍

Less glowy trap dust trails                                                                 👍

Protect your People - PyP - Better NPC Protection

Protect your People - PyP - Interesting NPC Patch

CCC - Spell Knight Armor - Dynamic Cubemaps                               👍

Imperial Castles of Skyrim                                                              👍

     Up to you if you like the look

Ryn's Mehrunes Dagon's Shrine - Patch Collection                           👍

Ryn's Standing Stones Patch Collection                                            👍

Ryn's Crabber's Shanty - CCC - Fishing Patch                                    👍

Ryn's Crabbers Shanty - Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods                 👍

Ryn's Crabber's Shanty - Natural Waterfalls Patch                             👍

Riften Canals rounded - Lux Orbis Patch                                           👍

Ulvenwald - COTN Falkreath - Patch                                                  👍

Ulvenwald - No Trees In Roads                                                          👍

Ulvenwald - Strongholds Largashbur - Patch                                    👍

Ulvenwald - Ryn's Anise's Cabin - Patch                                            👍

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Markarth Paper Map by Mirhayasu for FWMF                                   T.B.D. Nope, single citymap and buggy.

 

Edited by Aylis
Posted (edited)
On 10/22/2024 at 4:53 AM, Fakenet said:

I don't play with the vanilla sirvival mode, I use mods for that. Personally I don't like how eating an entire bag of apples has the same effect as a single serving of thin fish soup.

Also with mods you get to change what they do instead of a single unchangable block.

 

Thank you!

 

May I ask which survival mods, cooking mods and alchemy do everyone use? I don't think Aylis uses them, I think I only see Dynamic campsites in the list. (sorry if they already are on the list, I'm still at Gameplay - Foundation section).

 

I'm looking at sunhelm or last seed, Gourmet - A Cooking Overhaul and Apothecary - Alchemy overhaul. Would they be compatible with Aylis' guide?

Edited by buxxuc30
Posted
1 hour ago, buxxuc30 said:

 

Thank you!

 

May I ask which survival mods, cooking mods and alchemy do everyone use? I don't think Aylis uses them, I think I only see Dynamic campsites in the list. (sorry if they already are on the list, I'm still at Gameplay - Foundation section).

 

I'm looking at sunhelm or last seed, Gourmet - A Cooking Overhaul and Apothecary - Alchemy overhaul. Would they be compatible with Aylis' guide?

There is no survival in it right now, no.

 

First purely the survival mods:

iNeed

Frostfall

Campfire

Big Leather Backpack
JS Knapsack

Better Food and Drink

No MOre Passive Health Regeneration

Dirt and Blood

Keep It Clean

 

I haven't added a cooking or alchemy mod since I despise temporary buffs and hence never use alchemy, cooking might be a good idea though.

Also I have a few more mods to prevent you from becoming rich and OP too fast.

No, wait, right now I got the Experience mod from the list which should also make leveling slower, that way you can progress through the gear upgrades longer and don't play half the game in Daedric armor.
I also have "50 percent More Perk Points" from Ordinator. They don't make you much stronger but you don't have to stick to a single playstyle. Especially in the beginning.

 

MorrowLoot Ultimate

Hardcore Economy

Scarcity

Service Your Gear

More Expensive Carriages and Inn Prices

These mods are all intended give you less money and make you spend more money. At least that is the idea. I honestly have not managed to properly test how that setup turns out but then again different people like different things. All I know is that by the time I was offered to buy Breezehome I could not afford it.

Might feel too tedious for a lot of people since it involves a lot of maintenance but that is all Survival mode is anyway.

 

If you plan to use a lot of gear mods I can also recommend Gear Spreader so you can find the mod gear through natural gameplay.

 

PS: I just noticed that my affection for KC:D might have played into this setup.

PPS: I am not above cheating if it ever actually became too tedious. For example when I have been in a falmer dungeon for a long time and have run out of water. I would not run back out just to not die of thirst.

Posted
On 10/22/2024 at 5:06 PM, Aylis said:

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Fixed Mesh Lighting                                                                       Instructions required. Split into own files? Issues with DynDOLOD.

Peasant Dreams - A Common Bed Replacer

Riverwood Burial Site Graveyard

Dawnstar Burial Site

Immersive Hunters Pale Camp

The Drez'kth'ar Horror

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Origins Of Forest - Lakeview Manor Patch                                     👍

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Interesting NPCs Visual Overhaul                                                   👍

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Wandering Merchants - Skyrim and Solstheim                         👍

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Quieter and Ambient Otters                                                           👍

Mage Clothing Expansion                                                               👍

Mage Clothing Expansion Expanded (and Skypatched)                 👍

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Travelling Mage - HDT-SMP

Traveling Mage - Textures

Traveling Mage - 3BA

Traveling Mage - HIMBO

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Falmer Equip Armor                                                                         👍

Falmer Equip Armor - 3BA Bodyslide Preset                               👍

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Dismembering Framework - Draugr Overhaul                                 👍

Dismembering Framework - Falmer Overhaul                                 👍

Housecarls Pre-Thaneship

SLU - Spell Learn and Upgrade

SDA Patch Hub SE                                                                            Recheck for instructions

Fluffworks compatibility - Moonlight Tales

PC Head Tracking Crash Fix                                                              Redundant?

NAT ENB - Bizarre Shadow Fix

No More Blinding Fog

Dimmer Apocrypha Smoke

Haze Lights - Torches Candles Fires and Magic Lights Enhanced    Recheck for instructions

Interesting NPCs - Sexlab Patch                                                       👍

Dynamic Cubemaps                                                                          👍

Ancient Dwemer Metal - Bronze Cubemap (Direct Link)                 👍

Forgotten Vale Portal Textures - Cubemaps - Environment maps

Subtle eye cubemap                                                                       👍

     Use this ONLY if you find completely black eyes.

Less glowy spider drool                                                                    👍

Less glowy trap dust trails                                                                👍

Protect your People - PyP - Better NPC Protection

Protect your People - PyP - Interesting NPC Patch

CCC - Spell Knight Armor - Dynamic Cubemaps

Imperial Castles of Skyrim                                                             👍

     Up to you if you like the look

Ryn's Mehrunes Dagon's Shrine - Patch Collection

Ryn's Standing Stones Patch Collection                                            👍

Ryn's Crabber's Shanty - CCC - Fishing Patch

Ryn's Crabbers Shanty - Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods

Ryn's Crabber's Shanty - Natural Waterfalls Patch

Riften Canals rounded - Lux Orbis Patch                                           👍

Ulvenwald - COTN Falkreath - Patch                                                  👍

Ulvenwald - No Trees In Roads                                                          👍

Ulvenwald - Strongholds Largashbur - Patch                                    👍

Ulvenwald - Ryn's Anise's Cabin - Patch                                            👍

Dayspring Canyon Paper Map for FWMF                                           👍

Dayspring Canyon Global Markers Enabler for FWMF                       👍

Markarth Paper Map by Mirhayasu for FWMF                                   T.B.D. Nope, single citymap and buggy.

 

I would like to throw Human Flesh into the ring. It's really gross and so fits perfectly, imo.

Posted
16 minutes ago, Fakenet said:

There is no survival in it right now, no.

 

First purely the survival mods:

iNeed

Frostfall

Campfire

Big Leather Backpack
JS Knapsack

Better Food and Drink

No MOre Passive Health Regeneration

Dirt and Blood

Keep It Clean

 

I haven't added a cooking or alchemy mod since I despise temporary buffs and hence never use alchemy, cooking might be a good idea though.

Also I have a few more mods to prevent you from becoming rich and OP too fast.

No, wait, right now I got the Experience mod from the list which should also make leveling slower, that way you can progress through the gear upgrades longer and don't play half the game in Daedric armor.
I also have "50 percent More Perk Points" from Ordinator. They don't make you much stronger but you don't have to stick to a single playstyle. Especially in the beginning.

 

MorrowLoot Ultimate

Hardcore Economy

Scarcity

Service Your Gear

More Expensive Carriages and Inn Prices

These mods are all intended give you less money and make you spend more money. At least that is the idea. I honestly have not managed to properly test how that setup turns out but then again different people like different things. All I know is that by the time I was offered to buy Breezehome I could not afford it.

Might feel too tedious for a lot of people since it involves a lot of maintenance but that is all Survival mode is anyway.

 

If you plan to use a lot of gear mods I can also recommend Gear Spreader so you can find the mod gear through natural gameplay.

 

PS: I just noticed that my affection for KC:D might have played into this setup.

PPS: I am not above cheating if it ever actually became too tedious. For example when I have been in a falmer dungeon for a long time and have run out of water. I would not run back out just to not die of thirst.

 

Good lord that's super helpful! Thank you so much for the list! It's exactly what I'm looking for.

I do love KCD as well haha. And I like to struggle a bit in the game too so the economy mods are great for me!

Posted

I might also suggest MiniNeeds from this site. It's working well for me so far, although the pre-positioned showers don't work with some of the city overhaul mods. In Winterhold and Falkreath the showers are sitting sitting in open space, while they work just fine in Whiterun, Windhelm, Markarth, and Riften. Showers can always be disabled in the MCM and/or the requirement for bathing turned off.

Posted
On 10/22/2024 at 11:06 AM, Aylis said:

Testing

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Detection Meter                                                                            👍

Detection Meter - AE Support                                                     👍

     Use the dll from the pinned comment.

SkyALERT - Detection Meter Redesign                                       👍

     Pick what you like.

Complex Bent Pines                                                                       👍

Shrubbery Symphony - Enhanced Greenery                                  👍

Fixed Mesh Lighting                                                                       Instructions required. Split into own files? Issues with DynDOLOD.

Peasant Dreams - A Common Bed Replacer                                   👍

Riverwood Burial Site Graveyard

Dawnstar Burial Site

Immersive Hunters Pale Camp

The Drez'kth'ar Horror

Lakeview Manor - Fish Hatchery                                                    👍

Origins Of Forest - Lakeview Manor Patch                                     👍

Animated Ships Patches

Interesting NPCs Visual Overhaul                                                   👍

The Courier Crew - High Poly Heads                                              👍

Wandering Merchants - Skyrim and Solstheim                         👍

Wandering Merchants - High Poly Head Patch                         👍

Quieter and Ambient Otters                                                           👍

Mage Clothing Expansion                                                               👍

Mage Clothing Expansion Expanded (and Skypatched)                 👍

Mage Clothing Expansion - 3BA Uniboob                                   Don't forget to upload the predone slides

Travelling Mage - HDT-SMP

Traveling Mage - Textures

Traveling Mage - 3BA

Traveling Mage - HIMBO

Traveling Mage - NPCs (SPID)

Falmer Equip Armor                                                                         👍

Falmer Equip Armor - 3BA Bodyslide Preset                               👍

Falmer Equip Armor - Himbo Bodyslide Preset                           Don't forget to upload the predone slides

Book Of Shadows - Behaviour Based Stealth Additions             👍

Book Of Shadows - Settings Loader                                              👍

DF - Official Humanoid Asset Pack                                                   👍

DF - Official Humanoid Asset Pack - 3BA Bodyslide Preset       👍

DF - Official Humanoid Asset Pack - HIMBO Bodyslide Preset  Don't forget to upload the predone slides

Dismembering Framework - Draugr Overhaul                                 👍

Dismembering Framework - Falmer Overhaul                                 👍

Housecarls Pre-Thaneship

SLU - Spell Learn and Upgrade

SDA Patch Hub SE                                                                            Recheck for instructions

Fluffworks compatibility - Moonlight Tales

PC Head Tracking Crash Fix                                                              Redundant?

NAT ENB - Bizarre Shadow Fix                                                          👍

No More Blinding Fog                                                                      👍

Dimmer Apocrypha Smoke

Haze Lights - Torches Candles Fires and Magic Lights Enhanced    Recheck for instructions

Interesting NPCs - Sexlab Patch                                                       👍

Dynamic Cubemaps                                                                          👍

Ancient Dwemer Metal - Bronze Cubemap (Direct Link)                  👍

Forgotten Vale Portal Textures - Cubemaps - Environment maps

Subtle eye cubemap                                                                       👍

     Use this ONLY if you find completely black eyes.

Less glowy spider drool                                                                    👍

Less glowy trap dust trails                                                                 👍

Protect your People - PyP - Better NPC Protection

Protect your People - PyP - Interesting NPC Patch

CCC - Spell Knight Armor - Dynamic Cubemaps

Imperial Castles of Skyrim                                                             👍

     Up to you if you like the look

Ryn's Mehrunes Dagon's Shrine - Patch Collection

Ryn's Standing Stones Patch Collection                                            👍

Ryn's Crabber's Shanty - CCC - Fishing Patch

Ryn's Crabbers Shanty - Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods

Ryn's Crabber's Shanty - Natural Waterfalls Patch

Riften Canals rounded - Lux Orbis Patch                                           👍

Ulvenwald - COTN Falkreath - Patch                                                  👍

Ulvenwald - No Trees In Roads                                                          👍

Ulvenwald - Strongholds Largashbur - Patch                                    👍

Ulvenwald - Ryn's Anise's Cabin - Patch                                            👍

Dayspring Canyon Paper Map for FWMF                                           👍

Dayspring Canyon Global Markers Enabler for FWMF                       👍

Markarth Paper Map by Mirhayasu for FWMF                                   T.B.D. Nope, single citymap and buggy.

 

I know you said to ignore these testing/collecting links posts, but I thought I'd just mention, you never added the Dismemberment Framework, which you're listing some addons for in this, so if you're planning to add these addons in the next update don't forget to add the main framework as well.

Posted
19 hours ago, buxxuc30 said:

 

Good lord that's super helpful! Thank you so much for the list! It's exactly what I'm looking for.

I do love KCD as well haha. And I like to struggle a bit in the game too so the economy mods are great for me!

Since we're on a subject of list modifications, what do people use for combat overhauls?

The list appears to have plenty of combat animations, but no meaningful ways to "de-sponge" enemies. And smacking enemies with a club, just with fancier animations, isn't doing it for me anymore. 

Posted (edited)

Anyone familiar with an issue where ENB lighting seems to cause a bright neon green glow on reflective material like armor? Not sure what the cause is, from what I've looked into so far it could possibly be custom cube maps, the ENB version, or the reflection settings. I haven't been able to figure anything out so far. Currently using the Pi Cho ENB setup from the guide. Any ideas?

 

Edit: Sort of remedied the issue by setting ENB reflections to near zero, but is more of a Band-Aid fix, not really sure what the root issue is.

Edited by whydoesthis
Posted
54 minutes ago, whydoesthis said:

Anyone familiar with an issue where ENB lighting seems to cause a bright neon green glow on reflective material like armor? Not sure what the cause is, from what I've looked into so far it could be possibly be custom cube maps, the ENB version, or the reflection settings. I haven't been able to figure anything out so far. Currently using the Pi Cho ENB setup from the guide. Any ideas?

 

Edit: Sort of remedied the issue by setting ENB reflections to near zero, but is more of a Band-Aid fix, not really sure what the root issue is.

 

I'm seeing the same effect, but haven't tried to investigate it.

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