jib_buttkiss Posted February 27, 2023 Author Posted February 27, 2023 Alright, rapidfire replies: 9 hours ago, Balgin said: Cindil's conversation indicates that she's supposed to have massive knockers, udder-like, in fact. They appear to be the normal size for a non bimbo. Is there something wrong? That's probably BodyGen playing hard-to-get. She should be fine on a new save file, or like Spartanl0l said, just do stuff until the game realises and applies the morphs. 8 hours ago, SpartanI0I said: I had the same issue. Seemed to resolve itself walking out of the inn and back in. Couple of other things I noted with the new update, possible bugs if other people are seeing similar things. Firstly, the MCM option to adjust the bimbo phase time doesnt seem to work, however manually updating the global variable allows it to function as expected. I also noted a weird quirk where the player characters timer was 2 hours when everything else was working at the 1 hour I set. not sure if something is being doubled there or simply adding one hour. Other things, I wasnt able to find any of the new clothing mentioned at Radiant Raiment. might just be blind. Sex with Bimbos didnt appear to increase player corruption. Did work for NPC's though About the bimbo stage timer, does it work on a new save file? Added properties like that can be a bit odd when updating mid-playthrough. With the timing being off- don't you love off-by-one errors? I caught it in the NPC curse but forgot to fiix it for the player curse. The gear can be bought from Taarie or Endarie once you're a bimbo. I'll look into bimbos not increasing player corruption. 8 hours ago, Balgin said: Also the nipple piercing event did not trigger correctly. The message popped up, the piercings were equipped, slipped out because the nipples weren't pierced yet, then the YPS nipple piercing event did not run. Most important of all: I can tell the existing Bimbo npc's from this mod to read the book and start getting turned into a Bimbo. You might want to disable that. Yeah, I never solved the YPS piercing issue. You'll have to either get manually pierced before the curse or turn off YPS's piercing tracker for those slots. I've added that to the main mod post. It's annoying because there IS a clear solution, it just won't work for some reason. I just wanted to get this update out so I let it go for now, but I'll keep fighting with it in future. Oh, I'll add a filter for them to the book. For now, I guess just... don't. 7 hours ago, bubba999 said: Nice update! I installed 1.5 and the SE update and did the bodyslide. Then I tested the rest of the Bimbo transformation. The only thing that didn't change was the hair, even though it said it was equipped. Any idea what's going on there? What about the Makeover! spell? Does that get any results? 7 hours ago, NicoleDragoness said: I suppose there is still no cure for bimbofied player. and ... there is and maybe there will be no option for BHUNP type body (that is available for both LE and SE without great differences)? 4 hours ago, MysticDaedra said: +1 to a 3BA conversion for some of the new outfits. The Love Gown (for example) doesn't follow the contours of the breasts on 3BA: Reveal hidden contents Outfit conversions aren't something I can do myself. But since the Pink Miniskirt and Sultry Dress are modified from fairly popular mods, I might be able scavenge a UNP or 3Ba bodyslide for them... But the Mesh Dress would need to be converted by someone. 6 hours ago, bubba999 said: Alright. Well, nothing is hiding 31 so I have no clue. I went and did this. Reveal hidden contents She's looking good! 2 hours ago, Ikaros said: I tried the older version yesterday and it's nice that a new version is released already! I'll be sure to test the more up-to-date version later, but from my testing yesterday the SE version has some bugs, or I'm missing some requirements. I don't have YPS and slavetats, but from the mod page I understood that they were optional. I was waiting 1-hour increments to trigger the curse transformations, and I noticed that : 1) giggles and thoughts have no sound, 2) piercings don't appear, 3) eyeliner is added in race menu but not lipstick or nail color 4) hair and tavern clothes are added, no problem 5) testing the bimbo body (15sec.) with the correct SE sliders and the morphs are really modest I feel 6) personal preference but I wish the maluses were more like 25 or 50%. 10% is nothing at all in Skyrim, and hardcore mode doesn't seem playable if I'm reading the mod page right. I haven't gone through the whole curse yet. But very nice mod!! Here's hoping all those issues are fixed for SE in the new version. Thank god for another bimbo mod! Slavetats is like, technically optional, but you'll miss out on a bunch of decorative stuff without it, like any makeup (or in the older version, piercings) 1) No sound is odd. Has anyone else had that? 2,3) Yeah. You might get away with this now that the piercings are items but without slavetats all those things can't display 5)Did you adjust them in the MCM? Those sliders go up to 5.0- at that level things should be "Skyrim can't process this model proper any more" level big. 6)That'd be a pretty easy edit in XEdit if you were keen, but I didn't want them to be too big of a hit. I'll give it a few days for issues to pop up and then do a 1.5.1 release to fix them. 2
ebbluminous Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 I've noticed that the timer is not 1 hour when set to one hour. It was the same for me in the previous version - It would taker more than 24 1 hour waits to progress a stage. I am thinking the cause could be timescale shifting mods as I have been using such a thing. Going to try without them to see what happens...
Balgin Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said: Yeah, I never solved the YPS piercing issue. You'll have to either get manually pierced before the curse or turn off YPS's piercing tracker for those slots. I've added that to the main mod post. It's annoying because there IS a clear solution, it just won't work for some reason. I just wanted to get this update out so I let it go for now, but I'll keep fighting with it in future. The piercing events fired correctly last patch version. Not sure what's changed this time to make that different 'though. Perhaps it's an order of operations thing. You might be force equipping the piercings before ther e's a hole for them to go in. Because there's something in the slot YPS doesn't try to pierce it (you were obviously able to put something in so a hole must be there) then the item is unequipped because there isn't actually a hole for it go to into. That would be my guess. Normally YPS adds the starter studs after the hole is pierced. I'm not sure which order you've set it up for 'though. That was a very old save (one which predates Dawnguard but has been run through save cleaner lots of times - just a character for whom bimbodom would be really appropriate (she did a bimbo sex tour of Skyrim as a cover story to infiltrate somewhere so that nobody would expect her to be the thieve's guild agent on the job)). I'll try with a newer save to see if things run more smoothly.
jib_buttkiss Posted February 28, 2023 Author Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, ebbluminous said: I've noticed that the timer is not 1 hour when set to one hour. It was the same for me in the previous version - It would taker more than 24 1 hour waits to progress a stage. I am thinking the cause could be timescale shifting mods as I have been using such a thing. Going to try without them to see what happens... Well there's an off-by-one error in the player curse that means it takes 1 hour longer than the MCM setting, but other than that, timescale-shifting mods sound like they'd be a source of error. 38 minutes ago, Balgin said: The piercing events fired correctly last patch version. Not sure what's changed this time to make that different 'though. Perhaps it's an order of operations thing. You might be force equipping the piercings before ther e's a hole for them to go in. Because there's something in the slot YPS doesn't try to pierce it (you were obviously able to put something in so a hole must be there) then the item is unequipped because there isn't actually a hole for it go to into. That would be my guess. Normally YPS adds the starter studs after the hole is pierced. I'm not sure which order you've set it up for 'though. The change is going from Slavetats to armour items. The issue is that YPS doesn't offer an accessible function to simply set a slot to maximally pierced. The Pierce event sets a slot to "starter" level pierced and adds a starter stud, and that's it. It isn't enough to let you equip arbitrary piercings (YPS requires a healing time before you can go from starter studs to proper piercings), and I can't even take the starter stud out in code after. There is a function internal to YPS that will immediately fully pierce a slot, but I just couldn't get it to call properly from an external script. Edited February 28, 2023 by jib_buttkiss 1
thefabulousfink Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 I really like the idea of this mod, but the lack of a cure function means if I want to remove it I make the Player/NPC go back to normal I have to make a backup save. Any chance of adding a "Reset Mod" or "Reset Target" button to clear the player or NPC of all corruption and morphs? Additionally, I think a short cure quest could be fun. Since Bimbos seem like natural followers of Dibella, a natural place to find a cure for Bimboism would be the Temple or Mara. The quest could either use DD devices to deny your urges for a set amount or time, or while you perform tasks for the priests. Or the Priests could decide that the best way to cure you is to "flush your system" with as much of their "sanctified fluids" as possible. Have the quest events include the player and the follower and that way you could have it be an immersive way of curing both. Just a suggestion, but I think it would add something to your mod.
Ash7141 Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) Hmm, seem to off run into an issue since I updated, the piercings wont stay in (but reading the forum, this has already been addressed and is a YPS issue) the other is that my hair wont change to the bimbo hair styles. Is there a way to sort this or is it because I didnt let YPS grow my hair or body hair when I started a new save? Also absolutely love this mod, I see there are other pieces of bimbo clothing, how do I obtain this in the game? (It just equips the skirt, can I get the dresses, panties and bra for my character?) Edited February 28, 2023 by Ash7141
PB2014 Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 Is this one of the oddities with old saves being updated, and if so is there any other fixes other than new clean saves?
jib_buttkiss Posted February 28, 2023 Author Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, thefabulousfink said: I really like the idea of this mod, but the lack of a cure function means if I want to remove it I make the Player/NPC go back to normal I have to make a backup save. Any chance of adding a "Reset Mod" or "Reset Target" button to clear the player or NPC of all corruption and morphs? Additionally, I think a short cure quest could be fun. Since Bimbos seem like natural followers of Dibella, a natural place to find a cure for Bimboism would be the Temple or Mara. The quest could either use DD devices to deny your urges for a set amount or time, or while you perform tasks for the priests. Or the Priests could decide that the best way to cure you is to "flush your system" with as much of their "sanctified fluids" as possible. Have the quest events include the player and the follower and that way you could have it be an immersive way of curing both. Just a suggestion, but I think it would add something to your mod. I know it doesn't really address your issue, but if you want to uninstall you can using the console to "skee erase bodymorph" the morphs away. Everything else is internal to this mod and shouldn't cause any issues (other than the usual problems that would come from uninstalling a mod mid playthrough). I've got something in the works for "curing" the curse, but it's a little while off. 2 hours ago, Ash7141 said: Hmm, seem to off run into an issue since I updated, the piercings wont stay in (but reading the forum, this has already been addressed and is a YPS issue) the other is that my hair wont change to the bimbo hair styles. Is there a way to sort this or is it because I didnt let YPS grow my hair or body hair when I started a new save? Also absolutely love this mod, I see there are other pieces of bimbo clothing, how do I obtain this in the game? (It just equips the skirt, can I get the dresses, panties and bra for my character?) There actually isn't a proper method to get the other clothes at the moment (other than stealing them from a bimbofied NPC!). I'll add a sensible way in the next proper version. For now you're stuck using the console. 36 minutes ago, PB2014 said: Is this one of the oddities with old saves being updated, and if so is there any other fixes other than new clean saves? Spoiler I don't know what's going on there! Nothing from the update should have caused that. Have you tried disable/enabling her? Edited February 28, 2023 by jib_buttkiss 1
Miauzi Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 Vor 2 Stunden sagte Ash7141: Hmm, seit dem Update scheint ein Problem aufgetreten zu sein, die Piercings bleiben nicht drin (aber beim Lesen des Forums wurde dies bereits angesprochen und ist ein YPS-Problem). Das andere ist, dass sich meine Haare nicht zu den Bimbo-Frisuren ändern. Gibt es eine Möglichkeit, dies zu sortieren, oder liegt es daran, dass ich YPS meine Haare oder Körperbehaarung nicht wachsen ließ, als ich einen neuen Speichervorgang startete? Ich liebe diesen Mod auch absolut, ich sehe, dass es andere Bimbo-Kleidungsstücke gibt, wie bekomme ich diese im Spiel? (Es rüstet nur den Rock aus, kann ich die Kleider, das Höschen und den BH für meinen Charakter bekommen?) they should actually be available via the "additem menu". on the other hand - there are so many beautiful dress mods, including on Nexus... ...I wouldn't even know what to put on my "chick" first and as I understand the description of the new update - you can now use your own selected set as a "Bimbo" set via MCM and you can easily adapt your own set for your own 3ba body in the Bodyslide program
Ikaros Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 6 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said: Slavetats is like, technically optional, but you'll miss out on a bunch of decorative stuff without it, like any makeup (or in the older version, piercings) 1) No sound is odd. Has anyone else had that? 2,3) Yeah. You might get away with this now that the piercings are items but without slavetats all those things can't display 5)Did you adjust them in the MCM? Those sliders go up to 5.0- at that level things should be "Skyrim can't process this model proper any more" level big. 6)That'd be a pretty easy edit in XEdit if you were keen, but I didn't want them to be too big of a hit. I'll give it a few days for issues to pop up and then do a 1.5.1 release to fix them. FYI I waited until the wig/makeover! stage in my testing. With Hormones, the thoughts/notifications had the giggle sounds every time, but not with this mod. Are the sound effects only triggered in later stages of the transformation? Slavetats is required for makeup, tattoos, etc.? If so, I'll be sure to add it along with the new version. For the body sliders in the MCM, I kept the default values (negative for SE INV) for testing purposes. I was just wondering why the changes were barely noticeable. Same thinking for the bimbo effects, default 10% will almost never be felt by any player. For such a slow-acting, long-lasting curse, I'd say go bigger! (Or maybe just let us customize it in the MCM.) Thanks, looking forward to the new version.
fred200 Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 One anomaly to report on 1.50: I started off by having Elisif read my book (yay), but the an hour later my follower Mirai asked me about her dreams. I don't think I have even spoken to Mirai on this run... Will continue and see who actually gets bimbofied. And thanks for the new build!
belegost Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 8 hours ago, thefabulousfink said: The quest could either use DD devices to deny your urges for a set amount or time No. Nothing that requires to have DD in your load order in order to even function, please. 1
Code Serpent Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, belegost said: No. Nothing that requires to have DD in your load order in order to even function, please. Soft dependence is possible ya know...
Balgin Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 What on earth happened to Camilla Valerius?! I think it must be an interraction with Hormones. Deep Blue Frog wanted to make some changes to existing npc's to partially bimbofy them but I could never get those to work. This mod might have fixed that and applied both morphs for a ridiculous result. I should probably test Camilla again without Hormones in my load order but I thought you might all get a chuckle from the pictures. She gets major clipping when she pulls out her broom to do her sweeping animation.
Wut1969 Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 20 hours ago, NicoleDragoness said: I suppose there is still no cure for bimbofied player. and ... there is and maybe there will be no option for BHUNP type body (that is available for both LE and SE without great differences)? Both of your questions are information that has been answered in this thread after you first asked your questions.
Wut1969 Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 12 hours ago, belegost said: +3 -1, so basically +2 (as I use LE, sorry ? )
jib_buttkiss Posted February 28, 2023 Author Posted February 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Ikaros said: FYI I waited until the wig/makeover! stage in my testing. With Hormones, the thoughts/notifications had the giggle sounds every time, but not with this mod. Are the sound effects only triggered in later stages of the transformation? Slavetats is required for makeup, tattoos, etc.? If so, I'll be sure to add it along with the new version. For the body sliders in the MCM, I kept the default values (negative for SE INV) for testing purposes. I was just wondering why the changes were barely noticeable. Same thinking for the bimbo effects, default 10% will almost never be felt by any player. For such a slow-acting, long-lasting curse, I'd say go bigger! (Or maybe just let us customize it in the MCM.) Thanks, looking forward to the new version. -Yeah, the giggles don't start until about halfway through the curse- I can't remember exactly when. -Did you test the morphs using the MCM button? The ones in the curse are applied a little bit at a time, and end up at your chosen MCM size. 6 hours ago, fred200 said: One anomaly to report on 1.50: I started off by having Elisif read my book (yay), but the an hour later my follower Mirai asked me about her dreams. I don't think I have even spoken to Mirai on this run... Will continue and see who actually gets bimbofied. And thanks for the new build! You know what it just occurred to me that I didn't properly deprecate the old version of the curse- the random Hellos can still trigger it. You should be fine- the two can run in parallel, but Mirai isn't going to get the full bimbofication experience. She'll come out fine, she just won't get given her piercings. 1 hour ago, Balgin said: What on earth happened to Camilla Valerius?! I think it must be an interraction with Hormones. Deep Blue Frog wanted to make some changes to existing npc's to partially bimbofy them but I could never get those to work. This mod might have fixed that and applied both morphs for a ridiculous result. I should probably test Camilla again without Hormones in my load order but I thought you might all get a chuckle from the pictures. She gets major clipping when she pulls out her broom to do her sweeping animation. Oh, yeah, if you've got a mod already morphing an NPC to be big (which Hormones does do to Camilla) than the two sets of morphs could add up to something ridiculous.
Balgin Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said: Oh, yeah, if you've got a mod already morphing an NPC to be big (which Hormones does do to Camilla) than the two sets of morphs could add up to something ridiculous. Yeah. It's just that the Hormones morphs never worked for me. Somehow your mod fixed them and made them work. That or Morpholoyy fixed them but they weren't changing with Morphology, only with Morphology & your Bimbo mod combined (and even then they only change when they get your bimbo curse so you've done something very correct there, whatever it is). Good job.
foreveraloneguy Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Balgin said: Yeah. It's just that the Hormones morphs never worked for me. Somehow your mod fixed them and made them work. That or Morpholoyy fixed them but they weren't changing with Morphology, only with Morphology & your Bimbo mod combined (and even then they only change when they get your bimbo curse so you've done something very correct there, whatever it is). Good job. Then the most likely cause is that something is fundamentally broken in your build. I've used both hormones and morphology, and both work as intended. And I've spent enough time digging around in the code of both to know that the morph code in them is fairly standard. Further, nothing in the morph code in this mod should affect either of those mods since all three use a unique key for applying their morphs.
Balgin Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, foreveraloneguy said: Then the most likely cause is that something is fundamentally broken in your build. I've used both hormones and morphology, and both work as intended. And I've spent enough time digging around in the code of both to know that the morph code in them is fairly standard. Further, nothing in the morph code in this mod should affect either of those mods since all three use a unique key for applying their morphs. Oh no. Morphology works just fine. It's just that Morphology didn't fix whatever was breaking the Hormones morphing. This Bimbo mod seems to have "fixed" Hormones morphs. Now I think that the Hormones morphs were being broken by Beeing Female, a very old CBBE install (I think I started with Slim then switched to curvy but can't remember) and a body that was carefully crafted in RaceMenu during character creation, and/or my skeleton (it's either XMPS or XPMSE, I'd have to go and check), possibly even YPS's Dibella quest (which was not active) may have done some body control to restrict Hormones morphs too. There were too many factors and I never really looked into it that much because I wasn't using Hormones for body morphing (I just disabled those fairly early on). I was using it for it's other functions (the hormone levels, the curses etc). At this point I can probably drop Hormones from my load order completely. I'm not claiming that something in this mod "fixed" whatever was broken in the others but that the combination of all of them has had an unexpected result. And one that I can probably fix by removing Hormones (which means I can probably remove Sexlab Stories as well because that was only there to support Hormones too). Edited February 28, 2023 by Balgin
Guest Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 I am not sure if this is the same mod that Bluefrog had curated. So far, nothing happens with transformation. It is mentioned that you can use Hormones which i haven't. I did however test my bimbo preview and yes, there are some changes. Slight. Though my character doesn't think anything in that regard. I have SLIF installed as that was what you should have with the older bimbo mod. Though this isn't mentioned. Do i do it wrong here? I did read a lot about hormones so i think i will install that as well. And where is this mod morphology that everyone is talking about? I could not find that. Anyway, i assume you don't need SLIF but hormones.
belegost Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, yester64 said: I am not sure if this is the same mod that Bluefrog had curated. No it's not. It has similar functionality but not through the same means. 8 minutes ago, yester64 said: So far, nothing happens with transformation. Transformation takes several days at least and you won;t see any results until it's well advanced. Everything is well detailed n the description. Read through the whole thing, judging by your questions you did not actually do that. 8 minutes ago, yester64 said: Anyway, i assume you don't need SLIF but hormones. You need neither. Edited February 28, 2023 by belegost
Miauzi Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) Vor 17 Minuten sagte yester64: Ich bin mir nicht sicher, ob dies derselbe Mod ist, den Bluefrog kuratiert hat. Bisher passiert nichts mit der Transformation. Es wird erwähnt, dass Sie Hormone verwenden können, die ich nicht habe. Ich habe jedoch meine Bimbo-Vorschau getestet und ja, es gibt einige Änderungen. Leicht. Obwohl mein Charakter nichts in dieser Hinsicht denkt. Ich habe SLIF installiert, da dies das war, was Sie mit dem älteren Bimbo-Mod haben sollten. Obwohl dies nicht erwähnt wird. Mache ich es hier falsch? Ich habe viel über Hormone gelesen, also denke ich, dass ich das auch installieren werde. Und wo ist diese Mod-Morphologie, über die alle reden? Das konnte ich nicht finden. Wie auch immer, ich nehme an, Sie brauchen kein SLIF, sondern Hormone. all necessary changes work WITHOUT "SLIF" and WITHOUT "hormones" and the body morphs are set via MCM Edited February 28, 2023 by Miauzi
Balgin Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 30 minutes ago, yester64 said: I am not sure if this is the same mod that Bluefrog had curated. So far, nothing happens with transformation. It is mentioned that you can use Hormones which i haven't. I did however test my bimbo preview and yes, there are some changes. Slight. Though my character doesn't think anything in that regard. I have SLIF installed as that was what you should have with the older bimbo mod. Though this isn't mentioned. Do i do it wrong here? I did read a lot about hormones so i think i will install that as well. And where is this mod morphology that everyone is talking about? I could not find that. Anyway, i assume you don't need SLIF but hormones. It's really not the same as Deep Blue Frog's Hormones mod. You can use the Hormones bimbo curse on yourself from that mod and use the Bimbo curse from this mod on npc's but don't try to use both on yourself ever (even if you had the Hormones bimbo curse and got it cured - it'll still mess up this mod's Bimbo curse. Sometimes your entire character will even turn invisible). So make sure you've never had the Hormones bimbo curse if you want to use this mod's bimbo curse on yourself. Was your character a vampire of cured vampire? Transformation and morphing mods behave strangely with vampires in that they basically don't work on them (or don't work very much). Something sticks to cured vampires that makes morphs still have very reduced effects. Alternatively you could tweak the values in the MCM and use the preview morphs button to see if that changes things for you. The Morphology mod is on this website. It allows you to harvest body parts from dead people and make potions that alter your body in different ways (thicker arms, thinner arms etc) depending on the race the body parts came from and which parts they actually are. It should be Here. There's probably a page for a Special Edition link if your Bimbo's "Special". Morphology LE link.
Guest Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, belegost said: No it's not. It has similar functionality but not through the same means. Transformation takes several days at least and you won;t see any results until it's well advanced. Everything is well detailed n the description. Read through the whole thing, judging by your questions you did not actually do that. You need neither. Thanks for the answer. I didn't follow the mods for a year and made the wrong assumption. So that explains my expectations though based on a wrong assumption. In any case, i did read the text though not everything. I made sure i had everything that the mod needs but because of my assumption installed also what isn't mentioned. It did say that it updates hourly so i thought.. mm.. nothing really happens. Maybe i did something wrong. Anyway, thanks for clarifying. I just need to be more patient. That's all. 3 days isn't enough i think. Cheers.
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