Bimbos Of Skyrim LE/SE

[Wut1969]

13 hours ago, Efgad said:

 

Botox issues perhaps?

I use Botox (LE) but don't have this issue. I guess the issue is Botox related, but my suggestion/guess would be looking at the loadorder; putting Bimbos higher, so the body/face related mods can do their thing afterwards.

Edited December 9, 2022 by Wut1969

[Wut1969]

12 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

A quick update here, just to fix Devious Devices being a master for no reason. There's also now a magic effect that gets added to your active effects to indicate your approximate level of corruption, because I felt like some giving some info was only fair, and I fixed that skipped condition in the note that @Antaufein caught, while I was at it.

I have a lot of active effects, so maybe I overlooked it, but I didn't see the 2% corruption in the Magic tab, which is there in the MCM.

 

 

[jib_buttkiss]

1 minute ago, Wut1969 said:

I have a lot of active effects, so maybe I overlooked it, but I didn't see the 2% corruption in the Magic tab, which is there in the MCM.

 

 

 

To avoid cluttering your effects tab the effect doesn't show up until you're at least 20% corruption. Also, to be clear: it's only a rough indicator to act as a warning about bimbo corruption and a tip to see an alchemist or priest about it, so it only goes in 20% steps.

[Wut1969]

Just now, jib_buttkiss said:

 

To avoid cluttering your effects tab the effect doesn't show up until you're at least 20% corruption. Also, to be clear: it's only a rough indicator to act as a warning about bimbo corruption and a tip to see an alchemist or priest about it, so it only goes in 20% steps.

You have no idea how cluttered my effects tab is. ???

[Wut1969]

On 12/8/2022 at 2:11 AM, xegin said:

Unrelated to my previous post, here's some things I'd like to see added to this mod. Before that I'll say 3 things, first I don't know anything about how to make mods, so I may be completely unaware that some of these ideas are impossible/too much work, I'm litteraly just writting everything I can think of to improve the mod. Second, I'm too lazy to read 15 pages of forum posts, so chances are some people had these ideas before me. Third, some of this idea obviously require to have mcm settings, I'll avoid repeating you should be able to disable/set this or that in mcm.

-more Anaita dialogues options, I was honestly kinda disapointed I could talk with her about the note more, you could maybe go as far as changing what the pc can answer depending on bimbofication level

-Still on Anaita, expend her quest with more notes to find for her, maybe even have her become an even bigger bimbo with each note you bring her (bigger boobs, bigger butt etc), the only idea for another note I have currently would be a "bad girl" note that list all the things a "bad girl" is and how you shouldn't be a bad girl, basically just do the reverse of the good girl note.

-About the note, adding the possibility to randomly find it in some bandit camp's chest, because if, like me, you like rping even your very nsfw playthroughs, getting a spike in the bimbo curse from a random not in a chest on your (currently) strong female adventurer may be more "immersive" than doing a quest for some bimbo that clearly won't be able to repay you with anything other than sex.

-if a female follower has the note or the book in her inventory, random chance she'll spontaneously start being bimbofied

-If a follower currently being bimbofied has the note in her inventory, have the bimbofication progress faster than normal

-If a male or bimbo follower has either the book or the note in their inventory, random chance they'll try to bimbofy the pc

 

-If you read the note while having a male follower, random chance he'll confront you about it and ask you to show how much of good girl you are (reaction depends on bimbo corruption)

 

-if you read the note while having a non-bimbofied female follower, they'll snap you out of it, take the note away from you and destroy it, greatly diminishing the corruption gain and making the note disapear

-spontaneous npc bimbofication, random chance that a random npc in an area where a bimbo stays (either a bimbo npc or a dismissed bimbo follower) becomes a bimbo

-Have a custom bimbo outfit be given instead of the vanilla tavern clothes, don't get me wrong, the tavern clothes aren't bad, but they aren't great either, and in my opinion doesn't fit a bimbo's "aestetic". I know there are many replacers and clothes mods to compensate for that, but it would honnestly be cool if it wasn't a quasi soft requirement. I could go as far as to suggest giving every bimbo npc her custom outfit she give you when you meet the criterias (being enough ofa bimbo) and did her quest, but that'd be asking for too much.

 

-advenced mcm hardcore mode settings, with more drawbacks perks for a worse better experience, some exemple:
Big words confuse me: can't read most books/notes (except quest-related ones and some exceptions)
It's too heavy for me: automatically drops weapons over a certain weight on the floor when trying to equip them, plus drasticly reduce carry weight
Gullible: your follower or even randow npc may ask you for money under some bullshit pretext, and as a stupid bimbo you'll believe them and give them the money.
My boobs are in the way: can't fire a bow
Annoying giggles: play a giggle sound effect way too often
If it's gonna be hardcore mode, better make sure you can make the game as inconvenient as you'd like

-mcm presets for bimbo body settings (like no changes, big, enormous, ridiculous) instead of just having the sliders (you can keep them, just make them advenced settings)

I like most of the ideas, as my playstyle seems to be similar to yours. But for 'drastically reduce carry weight' I have to disagree; my female PCs rarely have a cary weight north of 150, and most of the time hover around 100.

I don't think jib_buttkiss will be able to cater (or willing )all our wishes on  debuffs, so my suggestion would be to have some Disparity integration so anyone can apply all the buffs and debuffs as they like. But there is a slight issue with that scenario, as the owner of Disparity seems to have left LL.

 

So, instead of having a fancy set of buffs and debuffs, I'm just going to try and use the mod as jib_buttkiss intends and probably enjoy it a lot.

[poporaltemporal]

@jib_buttkiss Thanks for the great mod. I have played a bit now. One of the things that bothered me was that the curse was difficult to understand. Great to see this update that you did something about it. ?

I play with bimbo character in the game and one thing I feel like is missing is different ways indirect ways to gain bimbo status. I understand that you started this mod probably in different purposes and these ideas might not fit the way you see the mod but I spew them here anyway.

Suggestions/brainstorm how bimbo curse could be gained in gameplay not just reading the note. I try to somewhat list them easy first and hard to implement last.
- Anal, blow and boob jobs could increase bimbo score. Anal most, boob second and blow third.

- Fucking dremora or the bad gods like sanguine. Only bimbo would hassle with the fire.

- Speaking character while the character was covered in cum.

- Not fucking on bed. -- Only mindless sex addict would fuck anywhere.
- On blow job bimbo could be asked if she would swallow like in SL survival. (I don't like SL survival and I don't wish to have it installed anymore).
- I like Toys fondling feature a lot but the mod is too bloated and for me too ill tasted that I would like to install it. This would be nice feature to test though. If you fondled in public and did not care it could increase risk for you getting raped. This could be integrated to SLSF too.

- Intimidate would reduce bimbo score?
- Charming would increase bimbo score?

Misc / combat
- Time in combat spend without drawn weapon including sneaking
- Killing would give negative score?
- Implement cheering for you champion? This is completely crazy idea but perhaps fondling/mastubarion could buff them through some kind of bimbo aura? This could also be dangerous if the bandits could get to you they would simply do what they want with you.
- Bit more bigger but probably awesome feature if it would exists: Approaching bandits without arms would start bandit approaching you for questions for what you do in the area etc.. You could try to bribe them, charm them etc to get past and do your business. If you would success you would be added to the local bandit faction at least while in the dungeon (if in dungeon). If you failed the bandits could do what they wanted with you. If your bimbo score was high enough. You could not resist the bandit men and scream just "oh, please fuck me!". In this case the outcome could be random. This could be integrated to simple slavery or other slave mod like SDD

Possible integrations:
- SLHH -- On rape attempt give up
- Apropos / Simple Wear & Tear -- fucking with torn aching parts is something only bimbo would do.
- SLSO getting more orgasms than your partner aka "enjoying too much"
- SLSO On multiple orgasms? Again for "enjoying too much"
- Slap da butt / slap that ass. Slapping your ass could start event that you could speak to the slapping npc and thank him or complain.

Clothing & fashion (YPS mod is too heavy and simply breaks things)
- Wearing visible stockings
- Visible lingerie/latex/sex wear babo exotic armor tag could work for this?
- Running around with visible nipple or labia or belly piercing.

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Other thing than that I found the quest line for curing the bimbo curse weird. I did it twice first under 100% bimbo curse and accepted that the cure worked. But for the last gameplay I had over 100% and I was waiting that the cure would somehow fail. Perhaps it had teleported to you sanguine who would tell you that you have gone for too far and then fuck you and you would only drool and say yes. After the scene sanguine would just teleport you back and then the curer would just wonder why everything would have failed and you would just ask drooling "it was great would you fuck me again?" then he would look at you scared and deny it failed and say he would need to see if Lyvelia could still be helped.

Edited December 9, 2022 by poporaltemporal

[Naps-On-Dirt]

Discovered a slight conflict with Submissive Lola (@HexBolt8) .  After sleeping or fast travelling a distance, or just by bad timing, if your bimbo forced dialogue is due and Lola's Master demands to speak with you, the former seems to interrupt (instead of just override) the latter, and the master treats you like you tried to exit the conversation.  You get a hit to your submission score and a quick zap, and then he does whatever he was going to tell you to do anyway.  But  you have no idea what it was you're supposed to do so that might prove to be difficult.  In my case it was just being forced into the Solitude uniform, nbd.

[MysticDaedra]

Thinking of replacing Hormones for BoS (hormones hasn't been updated in almost a year, and frankly a lot of the body change features don't work with SE/3BA), but I have a question about SLIF support: does it work with SLIF?

[jib_buttkiss]

3 hours ago, poporaltemporal said:

@jib_buttkiss Thanks for the great mod. I have played a bit now. One of the things that bothered me was that the curse was difficult to understand. Great to see this update that you did something about it. ?

I play with bimbo character in the game and one thing I feel like is missing is different ways indirect ways to gain bimbo status. I understand that you started this mod probably in different purposes and these ideas might not fit the way you see the mod but I spew them here anyway.

 

More ways to gain bimbo corruption are a future goal, but what needs to be considered is that it's out of 100 and hard to reduce (by design), so if too many things add corruption you might end up bimbofied very quickly. To gain it passively, currently being a victim in an aggressive animation (so rape, or a very dominant sex partner) does add corruption, and almost every other event in the mod does too.

 

3 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Discovered a slight conflict with Submissive Lola (@HexBolt8) .  After sleeping or fast travelling a distance, or just by bad timing, if your bimbo forced dialogue is due and Lola's Master demands to speak with you, the former seems to interrupt (instead of just override) the latter, and the master treats you like you tried to exit the conversation.  You get a hit to your submission score and a quick zap, and then he does whatever he was going to tell you to do anyway.  But  you have no idea what it was you're supposed to do so that might prove to be difficult.  In my case it was just being forced into the Solitude uniform, nbd.

 

Ah, forcegreet dialogues overlapping, what fun. I'll see if there's anything I can do but I'm pretty sure it's just one of those Skyrim things; I just don't think the game is designed to have multiple overlapping forcegreets active at once.

 

1 hour ago, MysticDaedra said:

Thinking of replacing Hormones for BoS (hormones hasn't been updated in almost a year, and frankly a lot of the body change features don't work with SE/3BA), but I have a question about SLIF support: does it work with SLIF?

Uhhh... no clue. I haven't doing anything to make it work with SLIF, but I don't know the first thing about that mod. Worst case scenario, you could just disable this mod's morphing (in the MCM) to make sure it won't interfere with SLIF?

[poporaltemporal]

52 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

More ways to gain bimbo corruption are a future goal, but what needs to be considered is that it's out of 100 and hard to reduce (by design), so if too many things add corruption you might end up bimbofied very quickly. To gain it passively, currently being a victim in an aggressive animation (so rape, or a very dominant sex partner) does add corruption, and almost every other event in the mod does too.

 

Its true that speed of bimbofying can become too fast but you can either increase score needed or reduce notes influence. Note could work as instead of static bump it could actually give increase to bimbo gains. And you would need to actually work and do actions for it.  Most of the corruption seems to come from the book. You can tone it down or alter how it works.

Another little thing. SL Hormones brings much instability to my game and its not really done for SE. Yet you kind of need it with Bimbos for masturbate and some other small features. Its great mod but would be neat to get rid of it too.

[Dudemer]

6 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

More ways to gain bimbo corruption are a future goal, but what needs to be considered is that it's out of 100 and hard to reduce (by design), so if too many things add corruption you might end up bimbofied very quickly. To gain it passively, currently being a victim in an aggressive animation (so rape, or a very dominant sex partner) does add corruption, and almost every other event in the mod does too.

What I would say is that you're better off to view more akin to a curse, Then a corruption to make game mechanics around it. Magic might excite the curse causing it effect the PC more and more rather then the corruption hindering magic altogether. Now sex of any kind would effect the curse more then magic ever could, Do to it being tied to the curse root source of being a Bimbo Curse. Over time if your PC avoids Sex and Magic they'll return to normal. Making it a managing of Resources then an End goal.

 

Beyond that try to make the Transformations more show then tell, In that regard I would suggest is find sound effects you like and add more Thoughts messages as the PC BimboIfy.

Reading the transformations in those paragraphs messages is ... Well boring and happen infrequently enough that I lose interest.

Edited December 10, 2022 by Dudemer

[poporaltemporal]

@jib_buttkiss Not sure if this is "by the design". I ran into issue where I was doing PW chores and suddenly. Arousal started to be forced to 100 and the character auto masturbates. I have gone over 100% bimbo curse. And removing bimbos of skyrim did fix the issue.

Please consider removing such deadlock behaviour as it completely makes the mod unusable.

[jib_buttkiss]

53 minutes ago, poporaltemporal said:

@jib_buttkiss Not sure if this is "by the design". I ran into issue where I was doing PW chores and suddenly. Arousal started to be forced to 100 and the character auto masturbates. I have gone over 100% bimbo curse. And removing bimbos of skyrim did fix the issue.

Please consider removing such deadlock behaviour as it completely makes the mod unusable.

Got any more information on what exactly happened? Sounds like one of the player bimbo events, but they're random so if you reloaded your save it probably wouldn't happen at the same time again. Even if it does, they can be disabled in the MCM.

 

How is it causing a deadlock?

[poporaltemporal]

41 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Got any more information on what exactly happened? Sounds like one of the player bimbo events, but they're random so if you reloaded your save it probably wouldn't happen at the same time again. Even if it does, they can be disabled in the MCM.

 

How is it causing a deadlock?

It seems to mostly occur with PW and sl hormone rape events. Not sure if something is affecting it more.

Here what basically happens.
1) If player initiates sex through bimbo begging, rape and PW public slut
2) Player starts to masturbate before the sex event occurs.
3) This masturbation will continue on and on and on. It speeds up so that the player cannot even open load menu in between the masturbations.

PC becomes masturbation bot which I called deadlock. Forced masturbation is not that fun and it brings many issues. Alternative ways doing this same thing could be the fondling I meant before or approach this through heart bumping and moan sound effects so player was driven to have sex or masturbate. Masturbation should always be the worst tool to reach orgasm.

[xegin]

On 12/7/2022 at 11:11 PM, xegin said:

I have an issue, tldr, the body morphs doesn't seem to work whil bimbofying the player or follower. ps: I'm on LE

 

Here'sa summary as brief and simple as possible of what I've tried in order to get it to work:
 

-After installing the mod, I did a quick full bimbofication of the player and follower to see if/how the mod worked before actually playing it normally

-everything was fine except no bigger boobs or butt

-went to Roni, because she has two big incators of how deep the issue goes, indicator are small

-asked about it here, realised before even getting an answer my stupid ass forgot to generate the body morphs

-loaded my save, Roni's big indicators were there, so I assumed everything was now fine

-played "normaly" with the mod, started follower bimbofication with the book, and player bimbofication with the note

-realised once I got the message of the follower being fully bimbofied that there hasn't been any growth of the boobs nor butt

-Tried to restore the bimbo body settings to default then bimbofied another follower, still no change (because of my "the bigger the better" mentality, I had pumped everything to the max not knowing what I was doing, assumed it may have caused a bug or conflict)

-Still no changes, I assumed default is for no chnages, so for the very first time I when in the CBBE morphs setting in racemenu to see which sliders did what, found a satifying result, input this in bimbo body settings, still no changes

-Went here, saw 1.3.5 was out (I was still on 1.3.2), wondered if updating version would resolve the issue, nope

And now here I am. Anyone has an idea what could be the issue ?

 

 

I'm re asking as I didn't get any answer, does anyone has an idea of what could cause the issue ? I do not have any mod changing pc body except CBBE HDT and a skin mod, and while I do have some mods other than Botox to retexture npcs I doubt that's the cause since the issue also applies to pc. I'm currently trying to find what's causing the issue, but as I have more than 400 mods it's taking quite a lot of time, so any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.

[Wut1969]

Just now, xegin said:

 

 

I'm re asking as I didn't get any answer, does anyone has an idea of what could cause the issue ? I do not have any mod changing pc body except CBBE HDT and a skin mod, and while I do have some mods other than Botox to retexture npcs I doubt that's the cause since the issue also applies to pc. I'm currently trying to find what's causing the issue, but as I have more than 400 mods it's taking quite a lot of time, so any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.

Could be tons of reasons;

Did you build a body and clothes in Boyslide?

Do you use Weightmorphs as a mod? I found that one is very stubborn in managing body sizes.

Have you tried other size changing mods (before)? Did/do they work?

 

[xegin]

1 hour ago, Wut1969 said:

Could be tons of reasons;

Did you build a body and clothes in Boyslide?

Do you use Weightmorphs as a mod? I found that one is very stubborn in managing body sizes.

Have you tried other size changing mods (before)? Did/do they work?

 

Thanks to you my issue is partially resolved. I didn't have Weightmorphs, but I did have Racial Body Morphs. By removing it, the issue with bimbofied npcs stays, but player bimbofication now does work.

To answer your other questions, in bodyslide I just batch build everything at once, using CCBE HDT as a base (I make sure to enable build morphs), and beside Racial Morphs I don't think I installed other size changing mods. Though I use all Bijin replacers, and the npc I tested on happens to be one replaced by this mod, could this be the issue? I'll test it anyway while waiting for an answer.

[xegin]

4 minutes ago, xegin said:

Thanks to you my issue is partially resolved. I didn't have Weightmorphs, but I did have Racial Body Morphs. By removing it, the issue with bimbofied npcs stays, but player bimbofication now does work.

To answer your other questions, in bodyslide I just batch build everything at once, using CCBE HDT as a base (I make sure to enable build morphs), and beside Racial Morphs I don't think I installed other size changing mods. Though I use all Bijin replacers, and the npc I tested on happens to be one replaced by this mod, could this be the issue? I'll test it anyway while waiting for an answer.

After testing, it seems that was indeed the issue, so apparently this mod isn't compatible with npcs replacer mods, or at the very least not with Bjin replacer mods.

[jib_buttkiss]

7 hours ago, poporaltemporal said:

It seems to mostly occur with PW and sl hormone rape events. Not sure if something is affecting it more.

Here what basically happens.
1) If player initiates sex through bimbo begging, rape and PW public slut
2) Player starts to masturbate before the sex event occurs.
3) This masturbation will continue on and on and on. It speeds up so that the player cannot even open load menu in between the masturbations.

PC becomes masturbation bot which I called deadlock. Forced masturbation is not that fun and it brings many issues. Alternative ways doing this same thing could be the fondling I meant before or approach this through heart bumping and moan sound effects so player was driven to have sex or masturbate. Masturbation should always be the worst tool to reach orgasm.

 

I'm still not getting the specifics. So you're saying that whenever anything triggers a sex scene, this mod hijacks that and forces a masturbation scene, and as soon as that ends another starts, and so on forever? Does this happen reliably? Do any notifications or message boxes trigger when it happens? Does your arousal decrease when it happens? What if you use the console to reduce your arousal, is it the arousal triggering it? What if you just skip the sex animation stages and end it immediately? What NPCs are you talking to to trigger sex?

 

The reason I'm asking so many questions is because this mod very rarely forces masturbation (only in one instance I can think of right now), and that trigger is nowhere near anything dialogue or sex related, and no one else has reported that problem, so it's an interesting one to nail down.

 

51 minutes ago, xegin said:

After testing, it seems that was indeed the issue, so apparently this mod isn't compatible with npcs replacer mods, or at the very least not with Bjin replacer mods.

 

Oh, yeah, Bijin will do that. If I'm remembering right, that mod includes a skeleton (which I think is a bit of an overreach for a face replacer mod) that doesn't morph properly.

Edited December 10, 2022 by jib_buttkiss

[alexsl]

unsure if anyone else having this problem. Buuuut i was playing througout the Slaverun main quest line. Tough at some point i must have activate the bimbo curse for my PC. When it finally finish setting at the end any dialogue with any male NPC became only

 

"Hello *giggles* "

 

Which render me impossible to continue Slaverun X_x because i had no other choice.

[xyzxyz]

On 12/3/2022 at 8:32 PM, 784472071 said:

I like your work very much, but so far, I find that it might be incompatible with Hydra slavegirls, Slaverun reloaded and might be A litbit with Sexlab survival. My crash log shows that when entering in town, the bimbos will conflict with these nameless slaves NPCs, leading to CTD        not sure

Is it still a problem? I like both of those mods.

[xyzxyz]

1 hour ago, alexsl said:

unsure if anyone else having this problem. Buuuut i was playing througout the Slaverun main quest line. Tough at some point i must have activate the bimbo curse for my PC. When it finally finish setting at the end any dialogue with any male NPC became only

 

"Hello *giggles* "

 

Which render me impossible to continue Slaverun X_x because i had no other choice.

Bad news

[jib_buttkiss]

12 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

Is it still a problem? I like both of those mods.

Naps-On-Dirt mentioned earlier having no issues with Hydra slavegirls and sexlab survival, at least. No comment from me on Slaverun, it's not a mod I've ever looked at.

 

1 hour ago, alexsl said:

unsure if anyone else having this problem. Buuuut i was playing througout the Slaverun main quest line. Tough at some point i must have activate the bimbo curse for my PC. When it finally finish setting at the end any dialogue with any male NPC became only

 

"Hello *giggles* "

 

Which render me impossible to continue Slaverun X_x because i had no other choice.

What's stopping you from selecting that dialogue option?

 

Even if you can't you should be able to disable the forced bimbo chats in the MCM to bypass it.

 

[alexsl]

1 hour ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Naps-On-Dirt mentioned earlier having no issues with Hydra slavegirls and sexlab survival, at least. No comment from me on Slaverun, it's not a mod I've ever looked at.

 

What's stopping you from selecting that dialogue option?

 

Even if you can't you should be able to disable the forced bimbo chats in the MCM to bypass it.

 

Well i mean its not what the option of dialogue i should have for slaverun to proceed. Also yes after that i did went to uncheck comment but yet it was still there. So i reverted to a previous save where i think i didnt went with the bimbo curse yet.

[jib_buttkiss]

2 hours ago, alexsl said:

Well i mean its not what the option of dialogue i should have for slaverun to proceed. Also yes after that i did went to uncheck comment but yet it was still there. So i reverted to a previous save where i think i didnt went with the bimbo curse yet.

 

Oh, there's a good point there. Disabling the forced bimbo chats will only stop new ones coming due, it won't block one that's already active. I'll fix that in future. This wouldn't usually be a problem, but I'm guessing Slaverun puts you in a pretty restricted position. Type set CC_IsPCBimboChatDue to 0 in the console to make the script think you've done a bimbo chat and let you say something else.