audhol Posted November 2, 2022 Author Posted November 2, 2022 Did some early experiments with bodyslide, needs a bit more fine tuning but it will work fine. Spoiler 4
Mexicola88 Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, audhol said: Did some early experiments with bodyslide, needs a bit more fine tuning but it will work fine. Hide contents One very important question, will the boobs bounce?
audhol Posted November 2, 2022 Author Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Mexicola88 said: One very important question, will the boobs bounce? 57 minutes ago, Miauzi said: If there is really only a fairly narrow edge (similar to the rolled edge of a breast opening in a catsuit or body), the freer the breast shape and some wobble physics might make sense I have an idea how I'm going to do it at least with 3ba or bhunp that has 3 brest bones, need to do some tests first but I'll post a video when I get some results. What bodies are you guys using? 1
Mexicola88 Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, audhol said: I have an idea how I'm going to do it at least with 3ba or bhunp that has 3 brest bones, need to do some tests first but I'll post a video when I get some results. What bodies are you guys using? 3BA I currently play the "NEFARAM" wabbajack modlist. I turned off weapon degradation, activated fast travel, turned off arrow weight and did some other small changes in the MCM to make it less tedious. Video not by me. It looks very good, but it's very performance hungry, but i usually got more than 60 FPS. I got a R9 5950x, RTX 3080 (10 GB V-RAM), 32 GB DDR4 RAM 3466 MHZ CL16, and the game installed on a SSD. So it works pretty well for me. Edited November 2, 2022 by Mexicola88
kurotatsu Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, audhol said: I have an idea how I'm going to do it at least with 3ba or bhunp that has 3 brest bones, need to do some tests first but I'll post a video when I get some results. What bodies are you guys using? BHUNP on LE, both HDT and SMP enabled. Edited November 2, 2022 by notwavman
kapibar Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 I'm thinking... this suit looks not only humiliating, but also painful and uncomfortable as fuck. I think some of the modifications that came to my mind might be interesting. 1) Dildos that fill body orifices should have small spikes that would prevent them from being removed, while stimulating the victim by raising her arousal. 2) The victim should be drugged by the outfit to maintain a state of permanent arousal and to reduce pain. This makes me think that the outfit should strongly influence the style of gameplay - a bonus to health and stamina at the expense of reducing magicka to zero. The doll does not use magic. The doll is a mindless toy that can't do anything that requires advanced cerebral activity. 3) All skills that require thinking should be blocked in favor of a melee weapon combat bonus. A drugged doll would be a kind of berserker unloading a state of permenent sexual frustration on opponents. 4) All DCL events should be disabled to reduce potential for conflict. 1
Mexicola88 Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, kapibar said: I'm thinking... this suit looks not only humiliating, but also painful and uncomfortable as fuck. I think some of the modifications that came to my mind might be interesting. 1) Dildos that fill body orifices should have small spikes that would prevent them from being removed, while stimulating the victim by raising her arousal. 2) The victim should be drugged by the outfit to maintain a state of permanent arousal and to reduce pain. This makes me think that the outfit should strongly influence the style of gameplay - a bonus to health and stamina at the expense of reducing magicka to zero. The doll does not use magic. The doll is a mindless toy that can't do anything that requires advanced cerebral activity. 3) All skills that require thinking should be blocked in favor of a melee weapon combat bonus. A drugged doll would be a kind of berserker unloading a state of permenent sexual frustration on opponents. 4) All DCL events should be disabled to reduce potential for conflict. I thought the whole point of being a rubberdoll is to get fucked in all orifices, so why should they get blocked with dildos that can't be removed? The doll should only use the mouth or what? Edited November 2, 2022 by Mexicola88
kapibar Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Mexicola88 said: I thought the whole point of being a rubberdoll is to get fucked in all orifices, so why should they get blocked with dildos These tubes are in fact dildos, only hollow inside to allow penetration. Edited November 2, 2022 by kapibar
kapibar Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 @Miauzi @@1) Ja, aber der Anzug selbst ist abnehmbar (Reißverschluss auf dem Rücken). Die Stacheln würden es unmöglich machen, einen solchen Anzug ohne chirurgischen Eingriff zu entfernen. Außerdem wäre dies eine zusätzliche Schmerzquelle für das Opfer. Außerdem: Warum sollten wir keine Verletzungen wollen? Schließlich handelt es sich um ein nicht-einvernehmliches Szenario. Normalerweise ist mein Charakter höllisch schwach und ich habe gelernt, mich auf Begleiter zu verlassen, um Quests zu erledigen. Es ist machbar. Sexpuppe sollte meiner Meinung nach nicht unabhängig sein, sondern gezwungen sein, mit unüblichen Taktiken "durchzukommen".
kapibar Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 26 minutes ago, Miauzi said: keine Metall-Stacheln in der Vaginawand! Sei kein Weichei! Sie mag es.
kapibar Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, Miauzi said: reicht das jetzt als Erklärung? danke Es war ein Scherz (offensichtlich). Kein Grund, es persönlich zu nehmen. Auch das mit deiner Frau tut mir leid. Aber nur um das klarzustellen - dies ist eine Spielwelt, keine reale. Im Leben bin ich kein schwertschwingender Badass.
Mexicola88 Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Miauzi said: Die Hüllen die in den Öffnunge der Puppe stecken sind nicht dünnwandig oder weich - die sind fest und alles was da in diesen Hüllen sich abspielt überträgt sich NICHT auf sie selbst - d.h. das die "Dildos" oder "Plugs" innen hohl sind - auch die Öffnung im Mund ist so gestaltet ich dachte bisher das dies klar kommuniziert wurde Ja wo wurde das denn klar kommuniziert? Etwa im DD Framework Beta Thread vor 10 Seiten oder so? Du tust immer so als würde jeder alles lesen. Und alles was du hier vorschlägst ist dann immer sofort in Stein gemeißelt, obwohl man hier ja eigentlich nur brainstormt soweit ich das mitbekomme habe. Ich habe vor kurzem irgendwann das erste Bild durch Zufall in dem DD Beta Thread gesehen, ich habe den nicht die ganze Zeit verfolgt, wusste also nicht was da "kommuniziert" wurde. Ja gut was solls. Ich warte einfach ab was bei dem Suit rauskommt, bringt ja eh nix irgendwelche Vorschläge oder Anmerkungen zu machen, da ja quasi alles schon feststeht.
kapibar Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 52 minutes ago, Mexicola88 said: Etwa im DD Framework Beta Thread vor 10 Seiten oder so? Uhm... Yeah. This is where the whole idea for this thread was born. And most of the people here came from the discussion on DD development thread. So @Miauzi has the right to assume that you're familiar with the design of the suit. Chill, mate. The guy doesn't speak English and you're both using translator, so some misunderstandings in the tone of communication are obviously bound to happen. For now we ARE brainstorming and nothing is set in stone. If @audhol likes the idea - he'll use it. If he doesn't - he won't. This is not OUR mod, it's his. 1
Xenoramos Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 22 minutes ago, Miauzi said: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/199680-rule-proposal-regarding-english-as-the-main-forum-language/ Can you recommend the good enough extension that will allow easily translate such big messages? I understand that it's easier to talk on native language (same for me too, English is not my native language), but why forum can't be for everyone? Especially since the topic does was started in English and does not state specific language in the name? At least putting translated copy of message in a spoiler would be enough.
audhol Posted November 2, 2022 Author Posted November 2, 2022 Pfft well thanks guys, better I dont say anything. I make models in my spare time because its fun and relaxing. I thought this would be a friendly thread where we could exchange ideas and people could make suggestions for new stuff as well as brainstorm ideas about the suit. So to come home after a shit day at work and find that between 4 or 5 of us theres again a load of drama and grief is not what I need. Sort it out between yourselves I dont need it and I dont care. I have only ever treated everyone with respect and tried to listen to others opinions and if I dont agree then to give my reasons why if y'all cant do the same then fuck off. 4
Xenoramos Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 10 hours ago, audhol said: Pfft well thanks guys, better I dont say anything. I make models in my spare time because its fun and relaxing. I thought this would be a friendly thread where we could exchange ideas and people could make suggestions for new stuff as well as brainstorm ideas about the suit. Please, don't abandon development of the mod because of that unpleasant situation
audhol Posted November 3, 2022 Author Posted November 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Xenoramos said: Please, don't abandon development of the mod because of that unpleasant situation Honestly at the moment I don't feel like working on it. @Mexicola88 has decided that everything is already fixed in stone despite me repeatedly saying that was not the case and trying to integrate their opinions into what we were doing. @Miauzi has decided to walk away rather than trying to sort out any issues with mexicola. Apart from @kapibar (I appreciate that they tried to de-esculate the situation) no-one else has given any feedback or ideas so there really doesnt seem much point. I had hopes for this to be a fun collaboration to create something unique but that has quickly dissolved into a toxic atmosphere. Maybe my post was an overreaction but I have been involved in a very toxic project before and it just zaps all the pleasure from what is a pastime not an obligation. Perhaps in time I'll come back and at least make an alternative version of a catsuit for DD but I think this sexdoll project can be considered dead in the water. 2
audhol Posted November 3, 2022 Author Posted November 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Miauzi said: Nun gut - da ich sowieso kein feddback und keine Anregungen gegeben habe ist mein Ausstieg ja letztlich auch kein Verlust so viel dazu Reading back I can see why you thought thats what I meant but I meant it to say apart from you mexicola and kapibar.
Mexicola88 Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 48 minutes ago, audhol said: Honestly at the moment I don't feel like working on it. @Mexicola88 has decided that everything is already fixed in stone despite me repeatedly saying that was not the case and trying to integrate their opinions into what we were doing. @Miauzi has decided to walk away rather than trying to sort out any issues with mexicola. Apart from @kapibar (I appreciate that they tried to de-esculate the situation) no-one else has given any feedback or ideas so there really doesnt seem much point. I had hopes for this to be a fun collaboration to create something unique but that has quickly dissolved into a toxic atmosphere. Maybe my post was an overreaction but I have been involved in a very toxic project before and it just zaps all the pleasure from what is a pastime not an obligation. Perhaps in time I'll come back and at least make an alternative version of a catsuit for DD but I think this sexdoll project can be considered dead in the water. Yes please just create a simple catsuit. Sorry i didn't try to be toxic, well not on purpose that is for sure. But if you were german and would really understand how every word is meant by @Miauzi, then you would understand why i reacted to his/her whatever posts the way i did. Well it doesn't matter anymore. It would be great to just have a nice catsuit in the next Devious Devices version. I mean in the DD devolopment thread, there a lot of ppl that also would like to have a better catsuit. That old one is just so outdated and badly made, it should get replaced with a better one. I mean @Supertin was working on some great catsuits, and then just completly stopped working on them, he/she finished his/her rope "devices" and that was it. The last activity by Supertin was in June 2021, i hope he/she didn't catch covid and died or something similar bad happened.
kapibar Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, audhol said: I had hopes for this to be a fun collaboration to create something unique but that has quickly dissolved into a toxic atmosphere. If I may, maybe try to look at this from a different perspective: this whole situation is a clear sign people are invested in this project and push the ideas they think are best ones. A little tension here and there is not exactly a sign of toxicity (which by the way is a term very overused in modern day). The fact that one person on the team doesn't speak English also doesn't help. A German philosopher Martin Heideger coined a thought that (at least in my opinion) very much sums up this whole situation: "language is the house of being". While the words can be translated, their emotional tone is not always so easy translatable. @Miauzi thinks in a different way than we do partly because his thought process is in a language other than English. We can switch to a common track of thought because we communicate in a common language, so it's easier for us to find understanding. Now guys, believe me, if I switched to my native language and you'd try to translate it verbatim, the whole discussion would get really ugly really fast ?. @audhol you've been working on this project like crazy for the last few days and expectations have skyrocketed because of your progress. It's only natural we all have this misconception that you can do it all and I won't deny there's more than a megapascal of pressure here. So maybe for your own comfort, consider distancing yourself from this discussion for now and try to build something that YOU would like to see. Projects born of passion are usually the best. And if you do need some ideas - you know where to find us ☺️. 2
Xenoramos Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, audhol said: Perhaps in time I'll come back and at least make an alternative version of a catsuit for DD but I think this sexdoll project can be considered dead in the water. Ouch, that is bad... I was really hoping to see that mod. Hopefully there is still chance that you will finish the suit, with optional breats bondage, in the future. Anyway, I wish you best of luck, and will respect whatever decision you will make. 3
kurotatsu Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 9 hours ago, audhol said: Honestly at the moment I don't feel like working on it. @Mexicola88 has decided that everything is already fixed in stone despite me repeatedly saying that was not the case and trying to integrate their opinions into what we were doing. @Miauzi has decided to walk away rather than trying to sort out any issues with mexicola. Apart from @kapibar (I appreciate that they tried to de-esculate the situation) no-one else has given any feedback or ideas so there really doesnt seem much point. I had hopes for this to be a fun collaboration to create something unique but that has quickly dissolved into a toxic atmosphere. Maybe my post was an overreaction but I have been involved in a very toxic project before and it just zaps all the pleasure from what is a pastime not an obligation. Perhaps in time I'll come back and at least make an alternative version of a catsuit for DD but I think this sexdoll project can be considered dead in the water. This makes me really sad... I've enjoyed looking at your work. Please don't feel bad about drama, it always happens, it doesn't means a thing. I'll keep fingers crossed, hoping that maybe one day you'll feel like making new lovely items again... 3
Lowkid2 Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 As someone who usually is a silent member of the community I wanna say that your work look very interesting and I was looking forward to see it's results as a whole. I also tested the the Piercing files you shared on DCL post but I wasn't sure if it would help/motivate you if I would say that they weren't displayed in my game (skyrim LE) ,despite meshes, textures and all being apparently in place. As others already pointed out: missunderstandings and smaller conflicts will always happen in groups especially when different languages are involved. I would have thought that so far the discussion mostly was productive sharing different ideas. @audhol I see why you are unhappy when your "team"/testers recently mostly was busy with expressing their dissonance and I agree that they should get over it. I think however it's too early to deem the discussion toxic and I am optimistic that everyone get's back to focussing on the project afterwwards. @Mexicola88 as the others already said: you are always welcome to share ideas, if audhol likes them he will work on them as it's his mod. Set in stone isn't the right term here. He might not give catsuit alternatives priority because he already has two variants that work for him but he very well could work on them once he finished the first doll suit as another version. @Miauzi Sind wir realistisch: in dem Forum kennen sich die Mitglieder nur flüchtig und was der eine als Witz meint kann der andere schnell als Angriff verstehen - so ist das im Internet - von daher würde ich dir empfehlen nicht alles was andere hier schreiben 100% ernst oder gar persönlich zu nehmen (weil dafür kennen dich die anderen nicht gut genug). Du kannst natürlich jederzeit sagen wenn dir eine Formulierung/ein Satz nicht gefällt und den anderen sagen wieso, nur hab halt auch Verständnis wenn andere unsensible Aussagen treffen, weil sie dich nicht so gut kennen und nicht wissen, dass dich das stört. 4
audhol Posted November 4, 2022 Author Posted November 4, 2022 @kapibar @Xenoramos @notwavman @Lowkid2 Thank you all for your kind words, Maybe I did overreact abit and perhaps I still have bad feelings about a previous project that affect my judgment and also like kapibar said there was some pressure of trying to please everyone. I have tried to get back into it, I have opened blender plenty of times joined maybe 3 vertices then just cant be bothered or dont see the point in spending the time and effort. I just need a little click to knock my headspace back into WANTING to do something. I will try to mull over what exactly can be achieved in the short term to gain motivation for the longer term goals. About the piercings not being visible in LE I now Kapibar uses LE, do they work for you? 3
kapibar Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 Quote About the piercings not being visible in LE I now Kapibar uses LE, do they work for you? Everything was fine when I checked. I even gave you some feedback about them being a little bit too small. And as for the topic at hand - as far as I'm concerned putting pressure on someone always ends like this. This is not a commission that you get paid for doing. If you don't feel the fun, excitement and flow, just don't do it, man. It's better to dial back on an idea then to do it half-assed. You'll get no complaints from me, that's for sure. 3
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