TamaChan Posted June 6, 2016 Posted June 6, 2016 By the instructions, I have to sack someone, and then release them. Afterwards, talking to them will trigger an option to enslave. I have done so and I don't believe such an option ever appeared. I think there's a misunderstanding. You don't enslave anyone explicitly like this. What's supposed to happen is this: 1) You defeat someone and put them in a sack. 2) You release the sacked someone in the vicinity of another NPC (no idea how close or far exactly). 3) You talk to that other NPC. A dialogue option ought to appear that says something like "Do you see that person over there ..." or similar. 4) You can now offer your captive to the other NPC for forced prostitution. Their reaction will depend on your MCM settings. 5) If the NPC is a guard, you can demand a bounty for your captive instead of prostituting him/her. 6) If you have prostituted your victim, you can return them to your sack and use them as a cashcow again later. 7) If you cashed in the bounty, your captive will disappear forever. Not entirely correct, if you have paradise halls installed, then you can turn them into actual slaves who do your bidding through a dialogue. My guess would be this is what he is refering to.
Starbrow65 Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Not entirely correct, if you have paradise halls installed, then you can turn them into actual slaves who do your bidding through a dialogue. My guess would be this is what he is refering to. Entirely possible. Since I don't use that mod myself, I can't say if and how it interacts with Defeat and vice versa. So can you help him with his actual question about the dialogue option not appearing?
shiagwen Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Draugr in first dungeon, the one with the golden claw, do not rape the pc. they knock her to bottom, but then nothing happens. hentai draugr from more nasty critters do their job. i cant see any other reason for this than the new version of defeat. i checked all possibilities, cleaned defeat, restarted sexlab, disabled all tags in defeat settings, no effect, still no rape from the draugrs. they dont recoognize the pc as a target and go home.
WCSC Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Draugr in first dungeon, the one with the golden claw, do not rape the pc. they knock her to bottom, but then nothing happens. hentai draugr from more nasty critters do their job. i cant see any other reason for this than the new version of defeat. i checked all possibilities, cleaned defeat, restarted sexlab, disabled all tags in defeat settings, no effect, still no rape from the draugrs. they dont recoognize the pc as a target and go home. Did you try and uninstall the creature framework from the MCM and then go back in and re-register mods? That sometimes for whatever reason kicks things into gear, and has to be done over and over from time to time.
TamaChan Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Not entirely correct, if you have paradise halls installed, then you can turn them into actual slaves who do your bidding through a dialogue. My guess would be this is what he is refering to. Entirely possible. Since I don't use that mod myself, I can't say if and how it interacts with Defeat and vice versa. So can you help him with his actual question about the dialogue option not appearing? Ironically, I don't use paradise halls either. If you noticed, I asked a question a couple days ago, and during that time, I went looking through the mod for answers. I learned about the paradise halls thing by looking at the plugins, not sure of how it is implemented, or what is not necessary for the dialogue to appear. The only Info I could see was that his original plan sounded correct. In the plugin, it looked like the order of evnts was defeat someone>tie them up>put in sack>go somewhere>take out of sack>talk to them>use dialogue to enslave. I have no other useful information.
shiagwen Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Draugr in first dungeon, the one with the golden claw, do not rape the pc. they knock her to bottom, but then nothing happens. hentai draugr from more nasty critters do their job. i cant see any other reason for this than the new version of defeat. i checked all possibilities, cleaned defeat, restarted sexlab, disabled all tags in defeat settings, no effect, still no rape from the draugrs. they dont recoognize the pc as a target and go home. Did you try and uninstall the creature framework from the MCM and then go back in and re-register mods? That sometimes for whatever reason kicks things into gear, and has to be done over and over from time to time. yes i re registered framework, did not help. if framework did not work, the hentai would not work either. but he did. re-registering framework is necessary if no cocks show up. it was definitely the draugrs, all draugr in the the dungeon, not recognizing the pc as target. and that can be only from defeat itself. clean up defeat did not help either.
WCSC Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Defeat stops at times for me and I have no idea why. Sometimes I have to uninstall and reinstall, sometimes swap a lower or upper version and then it starts all over again
shiagwen Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 has anybody an older version of defeat ? 5.33 or 5.32 maybe? this version here does not work on draugr , and maybe others i did nt tested yet. edit : ok, wolves do not work either, so there seems to be a serious problem. this is on a compoletely new installation and new game, even skyrim itself. maybe this is about sexlab 1.62. edit 2 : i really had a lot of work. i updated framework and jcontainers, no change. i was arttacked by a wolve, but rape did not take place. i reloaded and match makered exactly that wolve and match maker did work, sex happened with the wolve.
SangriusDarkblade Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Unfortunately I've found this mod to have a lot of problems. NPC vs NPC assault seems to work rarely (if ever), and creatures will only even try against male NPCs, never female, despite having everything checked. Follower's getting assaulted doesn't function; I get a message saying the follower is "approaching themself", they strip their own clothes off, and then stand there naked. The follower is pretty much permanently bugged after that point. Assault on the player works...sometimes.
Guest Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 When npc is tied permanently, all rape options do nothing after selecting it. I think you forget to add some code.
johnny jimson Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Will you be implementing FunnyBizness's injured animations in the next update? Link:<WON"T LET ME QUOTE THE LINK"> They have potential with the Defeat mod. word.
shiagwen Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 i am looking for an older version of Defeat please, anyone in the 5 series would do. thanks.
Innitaris Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Hi there. I'm having some issues with creature consensual sex, despite scouring this thread for clues. Rape encounters work perfectly - creature and non creature. However, when I press the surrender key at a non-hostile creature to 'invite' it, it will come over to me if far away, and if close to me it will walk into me, but no animation/sex takes place. I read in one response that holding the surrender key is meant to create the 'submissive pose' which invites the creature to have its way with you. Holding surrender key doesn't work. Nor does holding mod key, or combining mod key with other options. The creatures in question are also very aroused, so it can't be that. It's not working for any of them. Any tips offered would be nice.
Vane the bitch Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 HelloI'm new to this, but for some reason this mod will not show up in my MCM. I have all of the prerequisite mods, and they seem to show up on the list.I read that it might take a while, so I started a character and played through the entire opening, and then some, and still nothing happened. I've also ran the FNIS. I'm sure I did something stupid because it seems it works well for everyone else. Thanks ahead of time.
Green Tryst Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 has anybody an older version of defeat ? 5.33 or 5.32 maybe? this version here does not work on draugr , and maybe others i did nt tested yet. edit : ok, wolves do not work either, so there seems to be a serious problem. this is on a compoletely new installation and new game, even skyrim itself. maybe this is about sexlab 1.62. edit 2 : i really had a lot of work. i updated framework and jcontainers, no change. i was arttacked by a wolve, but rape did not take place. i reloaded and match makered exactly that wolve and match maker did work, sex happened with the wolve. Try resetting the Sexlab Framework animation registry through Sexlab MCM. Sometimes the listed animations get derailed for me, especially if I started a new game or I did something with the Sexlab-related animation mods; this process has always fixed it for me. Using the Toggle Animation tab of the Sexlab MCM menu is also a good way to check and see if Sexlab is reading all of your desired animations. There are three sets of animation to view: Consensual, Aggressive, and Creature. Also, please note that I am still using 1.61b for the framework, so I have no idea what the new 1.62 update looks like.
Whizkid Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 has anybody an older version of defeat ? 5.33 or 5.32 maybe? this version here does not work on draugr , and maybe others i did nt tested yet. edit : ok, wolves do not work either, so there seems to be a serious problem. this is on a compoletely new installation and new game, even skyrim itself. maybe this is about sexlab 1.62. edit 2 : i really had a lot of work. i updated framework and jcontainers, no change. i was arttacked by a wolve, but rape did not take place. i reloaded and match makered exactly that wolve and match maker did work, sex happened with the wolve. Try resetting the Sexlab Framework animation registry through Sexlab MCM. Sometimes the listed animations get derailed for me, especially if I started a new game or I did something with the Sexlab-related animation mods; this process has always fixed it for me. Using the Toggle Animation tab of the Sexlab MCM menu is also a good way to check and see if Sexlab is reading all of your desired animations. There are three sets of animation to view: Consensual, Aggressive, and Creature. Also, please note that I am still using 1.61b for the framework, so I have no idea what the new 1.62 update looks like. its a problem with defeat, try to do a clean save, i.e. under mcm disable defeat, de-install, clean save file then re-install, are u using any death mods with defeat? or sanguine mod?
WCSC Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 i am looking for an older version of Defeat please, anyone in the 5 series would do. thanks. This is the only lower version I have SL Defeat v5.3.2(1).rar
lokohryu Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 I'm having an issue with Defeat ignoring actor's Sexlab Gender. Females set to male via TreatAsMale play lesbian animations whenever activated through Defeat, but play the male animations fine when activated via Sexlab's debug spell. I'm under the impression that Defeat is supposed to use Sexlab gender and not Skyrim's actor gender but maybe I'm wrong on that... Anyone know why this could be happening if that isn't the case though?
TamaChan Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 I'm having an issue with Defeat ignoring actor's Sexlab Gender. Females set to male via TreatAsMale play lesbian animations whenever activated through Defeat, but play the male animations fine when activated via Sexlab's debug spell. I'm under the impression that Defeat is supposed to use Sexlab gender and not Skyrim's actor gender but maybe I'm wrong on that... Anyone know why this could be happening if that isn't the case though? I'm not sure which tabs it's under, but defeat has a setting for whether females should use lesbian/strapon(male) animtions. You need to have both sexlab and defeat set to use strapon(male) animations instead of lesbian ones.
djahdjah Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 Hello, I have a little problem when i'm knock down. i'm always raped by .....toccata,my follower! Someone have the same problem? Ps:sorry for my bad english.
TamaChan Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 Hello, I have a little problem when i'm knock down. i'm always raped by .....toccata,my follower! Someone have the same problem? Ps:sorry for my bad english. Right off the bat, this sounds like a result from having the settings for 2 mods not set up correctly. Post your load order.
lokohryu Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 I'm having an issue with Defeat ignoring actor's Sexlab Gender. Females set to male via TreatAsMale play lesbian animations whenever activated through Defeat, but play the male animations fine when activated via Sexlab's debug spell. I'm under the impression that Defeat is supposed to use Sexlab gender and not Skyrim's actor gender but maybe I'm wrong on that... Anyone know why this could be happening if that isn't the case though? I'm not sure which tabs it's under, but defeat has a setting for whether females should use lesbian/strapon(male) animtions. You need to have both sexlab and defeat set to use strapon(male) animations instead of lesbian ones. I don't think the strapon thing should be relevant. As long as females have the Sexlab TreatAsMale active they should be considered male for animation selecting purpose unless the mod itself isn't reading Sexlab gender. The animation and animation selecting work fine when I use them from mods other than Defeat. I think it could be an issue with Defeat's tag filtering but the tag menu won't let me delete tags, only add them which makes filtering kinda... Not possible. Edit: I figured out how to remove tags but still not finding a solution to this
Lagaruna Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 Hey guys i have the old problem that after i surrender and the dialog has ended with the words "come here" the enemy just keep attacking. My loadorder: Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawnguard.esmHeartFire.esmDragonborn.esmSexLab.esmZaZAnimationPack.esmUnofficialSkyrim Legendary Patch.esmSkyUIFNIS (with cratures)FNISspellsdD Realistic ForcesSexLabDefeat And if somebody can tell me how to get this ugly underwear away to get some dicks (for creatures and persons) i would be very happy
WarsunGames Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 Awesome! Excellent Job! An does it work with Dance of Death?
TamaChan Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 -snip- I don't think the strapon thing should be relevant. As long as females have the Sexlab TreatAsMale active they should be considered male for animation selecting purpose unless the mod itself isn't reading Sexlab gender. The animation and animation selecting work fine when I use them from mods other than Defeat. I think it could be an issue with Defeat's tag filtering but the tag menu won't let me delete tags, only add them which makes filtering kinda... Not possible. Edit: I figured out how to remove tags but still not finding a solution to this Sorry, I so rarely edit my defeat settings, I forgot that the animtions settings changed, you can ignore what I said about strapons. Anyway, I think I know how to help you, but right now my skyrim is crashing too much for me to test my idea, and I need to sleep. So if no one helps you by later, I'll be back on and hopefully be able to. Hey guys i have the old problem that after i surrender and the dialog has ended with the words "come here" the enemy just keep attacking. My loadorder: -snip- And if somebody can tell me how to get this ugly underwear away to get some dicks (for creatures and persons) i would be very happy Nvm, you have so few mods, the only one that should effect it is defeat itself. Unfortunately me game is experiencing big issues right now so I can't look through the mcm right now, but if someone hasn't helped you by later, I will take a look. As for the underwear thing, I assume you are saying you want creatures to have genitalia. If so, look up more nasty critters, it's a one stop shop for everything you need to get your creature experience on the right track. Awesome! Excellent Job! An does it work with Dance of Death? There should be no reason they wouldn't work together. The only vanilla thing that defeat changes is when the player is defeated, everything else is done using hotkeys and custom events. I use violens, and it's just fine.
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