SexLab Defeat

[highdrous]

 

 

 

Sadly still unable to engage scenes with dragons in this but the newer version is very responsive to me i like it.

 

Do you have the FNIS creature pack installed?                          http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/download/1000152121

 

 

Every other creature works for me just dragons only knock me down for a split second and i instantly get back up its not that big just a little hard ot manually ativate it when they fly.

 

 

I got news for you.

 

Dragons have always been Wonky.

 

Most mod authors wont even attempt to make a scene happen so basically it one of oh dragons are wonky still things.  Its been a known ongoing issue for years.  A big part of the problem is the scripts and AI Package of dragons, to even get a scene going in the last one was really unlikely possible yes but not likely.

What is the threshold value to allow the player character to knock down NPCs?  It doesn't seem to be configurable anymore (I would prefer it was, and I doubt I am alone). However, for the most part, this upgrade is a major improvement.

 

The Knockdown system as it were has changed.

 

You mark the Target with the "V" key.

 

Once the target is knocked down or otherwise incapacitated in some way as long as the hit didn't kill em outright you should be good to just walk up and activate them.

 

 

Doesnt't matter anymore got it to work :3

 

 

[4nk8r]

I'm getting a CTD when I execute someone from the tied menu on 5.0.1.  Updating to 5.0.2 now.  I know the CTD is HDT related (if I disable HDT dll, it all works).  I've tried both stable and 14-28 versions, xp32e skeleton, etc.  I'm using CBBE HDT body.  I'm sure something in my XML is off.  I'm not attempting any collisions of any kind, just bouncy boobs and butt (no belly).  Does anyone have a sane XML they'd be willing to share?

[sidfu]

ive so far only had 1 bug that is that they get up right when the orgasim animation starts otherwise ive had np with new build.

[Goubo]

Getting a crash upon rape animation start, fairly experienced modding user and I installed everything manually. I haven't found many other errors so far (that can be solely traced to this mod).

 

Here is the part of the papyrus log that you probably need to see, I don't think it really helps with anything though.

 

Also, the submit function doesn't work for me at all, my character says "I submit" but the person attacking me just keeps slashing the shit out of me. I have a suspicion that this has something to do with my load order, although I did sort via LOOT. I'll move it close to the bottom and try again.

 

EDIT: Nope, people just keep attacking me while I surrender, can't get it to work.

Does it crash systematically upon rape?

 

The second problem is curious, the aggressor is registered but ignored in the scene, is it a guard or something?

 

Hiya. the update is awesome! I love the new (or is it old?) option of putting your victims in a sack, that's just fab.

 

I am however running into the same problem alot of others are having, surrender means that everyone just walks away from me and I stand there for 30 secs or so. Sometimes bandits are not even hostile at all. The only people that I can successfully surrender to are female bandits who pass me onto their friend as I've opted not to have them as aggressive. I don't have Death Alternative installed and this is on a new game using v5.0.2. The problem has appeared in the previous version as well. I've tried LOOT and putting Defeat at the bottom of my load order.

 

For me though this is the only issue, everything else as far as I've noticed so far works well. Thanks for still working on this mod, the update was an unexpected pleasure.

There's still problems with the frocegreet package it seems huh? Will try to fix it.

 

The new sneak kill animation is pretty cool, but I kind of miss the strangling/choke animation (sneakier imo). Is it possible you could add it back as an option in the MCM? Realise you probably have a lot on your plate now though=)

I've changed quite a bit how this works:

The strangling animation is still here and works better, it can't kill and knockdown silently the victim, you just have to use action key but with your weapon sheated.

The marking system is really for combat or follower command.

 

BUG: First i tie up victim, then i press E again and get list of tie up options, one of them "put to sack" (roughly speaking) do strange thing: put my tied victim to sack and that suck equip in armor page. So: When i try take off sack it not want, if i try drop it on floor it not want, if i press drop button ® fast: sack duplicated and drop to ground. I not undestand why this option ("put to sack") is awailable if it bugged? Need some explanation of this option.

Please read the description:

Put in a sack Put the victim in a burlap sack, press Action key to release the victim wherever you want. The victim keep the state they were in. (e.g A tied up NPC stay tied.)

Not meant to be dropped or anything, in fact it can be dropped only if the player is assaulted when they have a sack on their back, it then can be picked up again after or the NPC in the sack will release themself.

 

New thingie (not quite a bug, not quite an issue)

 

Actor.getFactions() is a function of SKSE 1.7.2, at the moment of this writing the current stable release is 1.7.1

Ha yes good point, thanks.

 

I'm also having trouble removing the sack after a reload.  I can't remove it by activation, dropping in inventory, or activation in inventory.

Oh yes, idiotic mistake I've made, the script reset its state upon loading without checking if the player has a sack, thanks for letting me know, fixed in next version, in the meantime, here's a fix for it, replace the two scripts in the Scripts folder:

Sack fix.rar

In game use the Clean up function, you will be able to drop the body and the same problem won't happen again, sorry about that.

[germanicus]

 

Goubo - Installing latest version 5.0b via NMM worked for me.

 

V5b3.2 and V5b3.3 are old legacy versions.

 

 

I know that. Ver. 5.0.2 is not Beta, those version were. I apologize for putting "b" instead of "2". My mistake.

 

 

Does it crash systematically upon rape?

 

I do not have CTDs on raping. So it must be something else ih his game that it's causing it.

[sidfu]

the tie forever doest last over games. in my game the the npc actualy disappeared for a bit cause of it. quick load seems fine seems like if u load the game while u somewhere else it happens. they did come back after a day. think maybe on load they kinda fall thru world and game resets them maybe? only other thing is i wish i had a exhaustion/fatgue forever option lol.

[nutluck]

Ok did a little more testing with defeat and ran into a couple of bugs and I have a few comments.

 

I love the fact the NPC's remember you if they have assaulted your character before. It adds a lot to the sense of immersion. Great job on that.

 

bugs/issues

1) The NPC's seem not to use the sexlab strip commands. If a bandit for example assaults you they keep wearing their weapons, helmet, boots, gloves etc. Even if that stuff is set to be removed by sexlab. I would like the option in defeat to set what can be removed for the aggressor or have a toggle so it will use the sexlab settings for the aggressor.

 

2) A couple of times if left for dead and you wake up in the inn, I got stuck in the bed and could not move. Had to reload. Not sure what is causing this as it didn't happen every time but about half the time. Could it be because I am using see you sleep mod?

 

3) Even if you turn off witness intervention sometimes a NPC will still react. Like outside of whiterun the stable guy will always attack a rapist even if witness is turned off. It happened a couple of other times too but most of the time it worked fine. Not sure why but thought I would mention it. The stable guy was the only one that I was able to trigger every time for some reason. I was testing in whiterun and riverwood only though so might be more. It might be nice to have a single toggle for witness intervention and/or if rape is scene as a crime, as well as the morality toggle. Instead of one toggle in PC as aggressor, one for PC as victim and one for NPC on NPC. As that might be the issue with 3 sets of them. I think putting a single toggle for the whole mod in the general page for stuff like that makes a lot more sense and would slim the mod down a little.

 

4) I was crossing a river trying to get away from wolves and got hit and it takes a moment for defeat to trigger. I was in the middle of the river when it trigger defeat and the sex scene started. Both the wolf and my character drowned. Perhaps putting in something to stop defeat from triggering in water might be a good idea. I know there is one that stops it if your character is swimming/sitting etc, but my character was wading. The water was still deep enough that during sex we both drowned even if not deep enough to trigger swimming. Minor issue but thought I would point it out.

[kron_the_mad]

This may be the wrong place to ask this but has any thought gone into creating some defeat addons/patches to hook into various slavery mods? S3 is kind of dead but paradise halls is pretty good. It just seems a shame that if you knock down and tie up an enemy in the middle of a fight so you can 'play' with them later you get locked out of the other mods enslavement options.
It would make more sense if there were the enslavement option while your victim is tied up in defeat. and there only seems to be 3 major enslavement mods that people really use, S3, Paradise halls and SD.
I'm mostly posting here and not on the respective enslavement mod threads because S3 seems to be dead, SD is more player slave oriented and PH (my preferred now that there's a SL patch here) is nexus and they get pretty weird when you try and ask them about LL support over there.

[nutluck]

This may be the wrong place to ask this but has any thought gone into creating some defeat addons/patches to hook into various slavery mods? S3 is kind of dead but paradise halls is pretty good. It just seems a shame that if you knock down and tie up an enemy in the middle of a fight so you can 'play' with them later you get locked out of the other mods enslavement options.

It would make more sense if there were the enslavement option while your victim is tied up in defeat. and there only seems to be 3 major enslavement mods that people really use, S3, Paradise halls and SD.

I'm mostly posting here and not on the respective enslavement mod threads because S3 seems to be dead, SD is more player slave oriented and PH (my preferred now that there's a SL patch here) is nexus and they get pretty weird when you try and ask them about LL support over there.

 

Yes and no. Defeat is set up to work with Death Alternative mod. So if you use that mod there is captured and enslaved options plus any that others add to that frame work. With that said, Goubo has said eventually once he has the main mod all worked out he plans to add such things himself. So right now there is some with DA and eventually their will be more with a more sexual theme I imagine.

[blueballbob]

Sweet update. Took a little time figuring out how to get it working in an existing save, but using the save game cleaner to remove old forms and script, then doing the in game reconfigure did the trick. Going T take a little to get used to doing a bash first, then going for a rape on my male character. Love the new mechanics, a bit more complicated but more immersive than just hit G to win. Thanks for the hard work!

[bauch1234]

I'm running 5.0.2 and I'm having problems with if I rape a npc there is no dick texture or if a dog or giant rapes me still no texture but if a npc rapes me there is one. I do have the creature pack intalled and all animations work perfectly just no texture

Edited May 5, 2015 by bauch1234

[Zoky]

 

The new sneak kill animation is pretty cool, but I kind of miss the strangling/choke animation (sneakier imo). Is it possible you could add it back as an option in the MCM? Realise you probably have a lot on your plate now though=)

I've changed quite a bit how this works:

The strangling animation is still here and works better, it can't kill and knockdown silently the victim, you just have to use action key but with your weapon sheated.

The marking system is really for combat or follower command.

Oh yeah, I just tested it and nice to see it's still there=) It seems it forces me out of first person though, which is something it never did before, and odd seeing as I use Skyrim - Enhanced Camera (first person mod). And as you said, it doesn't kill anymore if you hold down the button, I am going to miss that, but I realise this isn't an assassination mod and not one of your priorities.

[germanicus]

I'm running 5.0.2 and I'm having problems with if I rape a npc there is no dick texture or if a dog or giant rapes me still no texture but if a npc rapes me there is one

 

Defeat has nothing to do with your texture. It looks like you missing Creature support mod like More nasty critters or other you need to run creatures textures. Install/Check your FNIS creatures support too.

[nutluck]

 

I'm running 5.0.2 and I'm having problems with if I rape a npc there is no dick texture or if a dog or giant rapes me still no texture but if a npc rapes me there is one

 

Defeat has nothing to do with your texture.

 

 

What Germ said, Defeat does nothing with textures. You need a body mods for creatures for things like Giants and dogs. Not sure why NPC's have it but your PC does not but it has nothing to do with defeat.

 

 

I'm running 5.0.2 and I'm having problems with if I rape a npc there is no dick texture or if a dog or giant rapes me still no texture but if a npc rapes me there is one

Defeat has nothing to do with your texture.

 

Then what mod adds the texture

 

For males I personally suggest Schlongs of Skyrim, mostly because that is what sexlab is designed to work with, as far as alignment issues etc. for the creatures I recommend More Nasty Creatures mod.

 

[bauch1234]

 

I'm running 5.0.2 and I'm having problems with if I rape a npc there is no dick texture or if a dog or giant rapes me still no texture but if a npc rapes me there is one

 

 

Defeat has nothing to do with your texture. It looks like you missing Creature support mod like More nasty critters or other you need to run creatures textures. Install/Check your FNIS creatures support too.

  

 

 

I'm running 5.0.2 and I'm having problems with if I rape a npc there is no dick texture or if a dog or giant rapes me still no texture but if a npc rapes me there is one

 

 

Defeat has nothing to do with your texture.

 

 

What Germ said, Defeat does nothing with textures. You need a body mods for creatures for things like Giants and dogs. Not sure why NPC's have it but your PC does not but it has nothing to do with defeat.

 

 

I'm running 5.0.2 and I'm having problems with if I rape a npc there is no dick texture or if a dog or giant rapes me still no texture but if a npc rapes me there is one

 

Defeat has nothing to do with your texture.

Then what mod adds the texture

 

For males I personally suggest Schlongs of Skyrim, mostly because that is what sexlab is designed to work with, as far as alignment issues etc. for the creatures I recommend More Nasty Creatures mod.

ok thanks

[psrvi7]

This mod is really NICE!!!!Keep up,man!

[drunken toad]

The new animation selector is incredibly useful, thanks!

[laz0r]

 

Getting a crash upon rape animation start, fairly experienced modding user and I installed everything manually. I haven't found many other errors so far (that can be solely traced to this mod).

 

Here is the part of the papyrus log that you probably need to see, I don't think it really helps with anything though.

 

Also, the submit function doesn't work for me at all, my character says "I submit" but the person attacking me just keeps slashing the shit out of me. I have a suspicion that this has something to do with my load order, although I did sort via LOOT. I'll move it close to the bottom and try again.

 

EDIT: Nope, people just keep attacking me while I surrender, can't get it to work.

Does it crash systematically upon rape?

 

The second problem is curious, the aggressor is registered but ignored in the scene, is it a guard or something?

 

--snip--

Sorry for the late reply,

 

The first problem I think I've fixed, it was a matter of not registering the ZaZ animation pack properly with Sexlab I believe.

 

The second problem I tested with 3 different NPCs, one was a bandit, one was a randomly generated NPC from the populated series, and the third was another bandit (different from the first). I tried it again today and it happens with all NPCs I attempt to surrender to.

 

[Toopsie]

Quick typo heads up, nothing major just a missing letter.

 

"I'm going to show you what happen to women like you around here"

 

Should be "happens."

[Slorm]

2) A couple of times if left for dead and you wake up in the inn, I got stuck in the bed and could not move. Had to reload. Not sure what is causing this as it didn't happen every time but about half the time. Could it be because I am using see you sleep mod?

 

 

Yep I had the same issue. Workaround is to use the Restore function in ZAP to regain control (works most of the time)

 

[nutluck]

 

2) A couple of times if left for dead and you wake up in the inn, I got stuck in the bed and could not move. Had to reload. Not sure what is causing this as it didn't happen every time but about half the time. Could it be because I am using see you sleep mod?

 

Yep I had the same issue. Workaround is to use the Restore function in ZAP to regain control (works most of the time)

I will  have to remember that thanks.

[originalwankster]

On trying a new save my follower issues seem to be cleared up. Follower handling still gets a bit finnicky sometimes but it definitely works better than in previous builds.

 

One issue, that might not necessarily be Defeat: during outdoor rapes I'm running into a frequent problem where it gets interrupted by the aggressors' seething hatred for rabbits and elk. They start an assault but then take a break to make sure that every single piece of wildlife in the cell is dead first. Is there any way to reduce the radius where they get triggered by potential enemies during assaults, or is that outside the scope of Defeat?

[Slorm]

 

 

2) A couple of times if left for dead and you wake up in the inn, I got stuck in the bed and could not move. Had to reload. Not sure what is causing this as it didn't happen every time but about half the time. Could it be because I am using see you sleep mod?

 

Yep I had the same issue. Workaround is to use the Restore function in ZAP to regain control (works most of the time)

I will  have to remember that thanks.

 

 

It can be a bit unreliable, you sometimes need to hit crouch a good few times, but it seems better than it was in 5.0.1

One issue, that might not necessarily be Defeat: during outdoor rapes I'm running into a frequent problem where it gets interrupted by the aggressors' seething hatred for rabbits and elk. They start an assault but then take a break to make sure that every single piece of wildlife in the cell is dead first. Is there any way to reduce the radius where they get triggered by potential enemies during assaults, or is that outside the scope of Defeat?

 

That's an absolute pain but it happens with other mods as well, so probably the AI

 

[nilead]

Nice mod, been using it for a long time. While using v5b 3.3 fixed and 4.2 multiple creature attack could happen, up to 3 at a time. With 5.02 however, when there is 1 attacker - everything works fine. However if there are two or more, even if "multiple" chance is set to 100%, 1v1 scene is still played. Moreover, there is no handling for other hostiles at all, they just keep attacking me. Considering the fact that 2-3 hits (or 1 power attack) are lethal for my PC, its a major trouble. Ive got very shallow insight into modding, most of my current load order was done by "rinse and repeat till it works". Ive tried to remove all mods that affect NPC AI, but it didnt change a thing. If someone could point me at least in general direction of how to fix it, i would greatly appreciate it.

[Pummelweed]

Can anyone help me my skyrim keeps crashing every time when i am starting a sex scene. I have fully installed everything (SKSE, FNIS, SKYUI, sexlabs, zaz animationpack, death alternative and fusrodoh) and i was wondering is there still something missing. But still when i click rape command the game crashes (same happens also when trying to masturbate). Thank you already.