Sexlab Submit 01SEP14 1133

[vincent20]

 

have a little problem with the speechcraft option.
I play a female character and if I want to have sex with a female npc does the first speechcraft (let us do it simple)not working game have a  ctd . Does anyone have the same problem.The other options work.

and by the male npc work the first option .

and i´m using only the speechcraft option .

 

and sorry for the english is a google translation .

[Mygoodness777]

Animals never ever work, even with the boxes checked in the Submit menu and in the Sexlab menu. NPCs...well I usually have the submit rejected 3-5 times before the NPCs accept it. There are times when they just don't.

[ipred]

well i've already asked about that issue earlier but i never got an answer

i now have a new system therefore a new skyrim install and an completely new save and this problem is back again 

 

Problem:

When i assault the npc via shout or grapple in combat they go to the knees but after they stand up there is no Dialogue option like: submit or die

but if i assault them while sneaking they submit, strip and stand up again and i can say to them: "now what i should do with you" everything else is working fine

 

i once manage to somehow make this message appear afterwards but i just don't get what is going on 

but i think it is an papyrus issue since when this happens defeat isnt working right aswell

[Sarathis]

well i've already asked about that issue earlier but i never got an answer

i now have a new system therefore a new skyrim install and an completely new save and this problem is back again 

 

Problem:

When i assault the npc via shout or grapple in combat they go to the knees but after they stand up there is no Dialogue option like: submit or die

but if i assault them while sneaking they submit, strip and stand up again and i can say to them: "now what i should do with you" everything else is working fine

 

i once manage to somehow make this message appear afterwards but i just don't get what is going on 

but i think it is an papyrus issue since when this happens defeat isnt working right aswell

 

I'm having my own issues with Submit so you can take what I say with a grain of salt but it sounds like another mod or script is interfering with your initial rape animation. The "Now what should I do with you...?" dialogue appears when you speak to a NPC a second time after raping or robbing them. I most often see it if I have the option to auto-rape after submission on and I get interrupted, either by another NPC attacking me or something else disrupting the initial assault.

 

So, do you have any other active mods that trigger automatically before or during the initiation of a sex animation? You say it's a brand new install so it's probably not SexLab itself that's malfunctioning. If you can have sex with friendly NPCs normally via the speechcraft dialogue then it's likely not FNIS, either. What's your load order look like?

[Sarathis]

Animals never ever work, even with the boxes checked in the Submit menu and in the Sexlab menu.

 

Do you have FNIS Creature Pack, SexLab Nude Creatures, and Beastiality Extras installed?

 

 

Mygoodness777, on 26 May 2014 - 3:55 PM, said:

NPCs...well I usually have the submit rejected 3-5 times before the NPCs accept it. There are times when they just don't.

 

 

NPC reactions are affected by your Speech level, so when it's low your chance of succeeding in getting one to go to bed with you is low as well. When you start out a new game it's purposely difficult to talk someone up. On default settings your chance of success also decreases after every attempt within a certain time period, I think one in-game day, though I'm not certain offhand. There are options to decrease the amount the success chance lowers after each attempt and you can increase your chance of succeeding by up to 25% in the options as well. Have you played with those preferences at all?

[JATT24]

Hi can anyone assist me as why my character does not undress during animations?  I have SOS installed, it was working before now he just does his business with his underwear on.

[Destynova99]

Did you disable the penis addon by accident or move it above the SOS main file, maybe? From the SOS readme: "The underwear does not come off / Permaundewear: This can happen if you have no SOS addon esp installed or enabled, please install at least one schlong addon, and make sure they are loaded after the main esp. It also happens on custom races for which you do not have a compatible SOS addon installed. In that case you can force a schlong upon the affected character by giving them (or consuming if the PC is affected) a schlong shape transformation potion. This can be also a symptom of the "new game" bug (read above)."

 

[ipred]

@Sarathis

oh sorry havent seen your post before about the same problem

ehm don't know what should trigger before or during animations probably sexlab stop combat but i havent selected the option that trigger sex on assault

[JATT24]

Did you disable the penis addon by accident or move it above the SOS main file, maybe? From the SOS readme: "The underwear does not come off / Permaundewear: This can happen if you have no SOS addon esp installed or enabled, please install at least one schlong addon, and make sure they are loaded after the main esp. It also happens on custom races for which you do not have a compatible SOS addon installed. In that case you can force a schlong upon the affected character by giving them (or consuming if the PC is affected) a schlong shape transformation potion. This can be also a symptom of the "new game" bug (read above)."

 

Hi I have the addons in place actually when I get raped everything works fine its only when I am the aggressor that my character does not fully strip.

[Sarathis]

 

Hi I have the addons in place actually when I get raped everything works fine its only when I am the aggressor that my character does not fully strip.

 

Check your SexLab preferences. Under the "Aggressive Timers & Stripping" section make sure that the right column, "Aggressor Strip From" has the options you want stripped checked off.

[rkoelsch1]

This forum really needs a search function as I am sure you have answered this many times.   What is the correct load order for the shared serana dialogue?  also this is a great mod

 

[srayesmanll]

This forum really needs a search function as I am sure you have answered this many times.   What is the correct load order for the shared serana dialogue?  also this is a great mod

 

The forum has a search function, top right of the page...

[WaxenFigure]

 

This forum really needs a search function as I am sure you have answered this many times.   What is the correct load order for the shared serana dialogue?  also this is a great mod

 

The forum has a search function, top right of the page...

 

It's only a fair search but still would save a lot of people a lot of time IF they'd just use it.

[jukem]

I just updated to the newest Sexlab and the the newest Submit.  Now the sex animations don't start.  I can successfully start one with the Matchmaker but the "CLICK HERE" in the Animation testing in the Sexlab MCM menu is greyed out.  And When I use the submit key to make someone submit, they strip and give me access to their inventory but then they just walk away, no sex option starts.

[Destynova99]

Did you redo your FNIS patch after you upgraded? And did you follow the upgrade instructions for Sexlab? After you redo your FNIS patch if it's still not working, see if it works in a new game. If so you could try doing a clean save without Sexlab mods then reload them... make sure to follow the clean install/upgrade intructions. Select the "Rebuild/Clean" option in Sexlab's debug section, make sure death-proof surrender/auto-submit are turned off on Submit, deactivate any sexlab mods that have the option before you do the clean save, use the savegame cleaner tool to remove orphaned scripts, then reactivate the sexlab mods again, rebuild your FNIS patch, etc... and then go back into the game and set all your options again and try it again. If after all that, it's still not working on your in progress game but it does work on a new game then you'll probably have to just use the new game.

[Kazoo]

I'm having an issue. After my character got f-ed and before she gets bound, my game crashes, just when the bindings must appear. 

 

EDIT: installing the new version solved it

[gederix]

So is there a way to make submit more likely to succeed? I'm finding that when I try to get my character to submit, I frequently get the message "your opponent doesn't accept your surrender". I've seen others posting about it, but haven't found anything through my own research. I'm sure I'm missing something somewhere.

 

Same issue here. I finally gave up my experiment with submit an have returned to defeat, even though I did not want to as the new defeat is a WIP, but the old one worked flawlessly for me so Im hoping the kinks get worked out.

Sad though, I spent the last 3 weeks with a clean install/new game trying to get submit to work right.

[jukem]

Did you redo your FNIS patch after you upgraded? And did you follow the upgrade instructions for Sexlab? After you redo your FNIS patch if it's still not working, see if it works in a new game. If so you could try doing a clean save without Sexlab mods then reload them... make sure to follow the clean install/upgrade intructions. Select the "Rebuild/Clean" option in Sexlab's debug section, make sure death-proof surrender/auto-submit are turned off on Submit, deactivate any sexlab mods that have the option before you do the clean save, use the savegame cleaner tool to remove orphaned scripts, then reactivate the sexlab mods again, rebuild your FNIS patch, etc... and then go back into the game and set all your options again and try it again. If after all that, it's still not working on your in progress game but it does work on a new game then you'll probably have to just use the new game.

Thanks for the reply.  When you say, "redo your FNIS patch", do you mean to re-generate the FNIS for users and select the Update FNIS Behavior and Consistency Check?  If so, then yes I did do that.  I wanted to make sure that is what you meant before I try the other stuff you mentioned.

 

EDIT:

OK, I managed to uninstall the Sexlab mods and the framework but even after following the proper procedure, Skryim crashed right as it tried to pull up the menu screen to start a new game or load.   I reinstalled Sexlab Framework and Skyrim loaded but my previous saves didn't.  I reloaded an Autosave and it loaded (that's why I have Autosave enabled); side note: For some reason they don't corrupt as easily?  Idk.  Anyway, I was able to load the autosave and Sexlab reinitialized.  I then saved a new file and used the console commands to generate the files needed for the Save Cleaner and exited the game.  I cleaned the file and reloaded.  I tried using the Animation Editor but upon applying the animation in 1st person, my character was stuck until the time expired when the animation was supposed to end.  NUM3 to toggle free camera didn't work either.

 

I exited the game and installed Matchmaker.  I only tried the first option (missionary) and it worked perfectly, automatically placing me in free camera mode (although limited in zoom and such but I think that is the way it's designed).  I exited and installed Submit, after applying the submit grapple in 3rd person mode, the animation did work but my character stayed clothed and the view was stuck directly behind him.  NUM3 only shook the camera for a second but I couldn't change the view with the mouse or anything like I used to with the previous Framework and Submit.

 

By the way, each time I installed the Framework, I ran FNIS for Users and Update FNIS Behavior.

 

And that's where I'm at now.  I don't know if I should keep this here or move this issue over to the Sexlab Framework page since it sounds like the problem lies with the framework not Submit.  I appreciate any additional help.

[Destynova99]

Your game crashed while loading because of a missing dependency. Likely from the old FNIS update... or possibly in your bashed patch or if you made any kind of compatibility patches with TES5Edit... and yes that's what I meant. Any time you change any mod that adds animations, including Sexlab, creature animations, or a mod that adds new animations like the Zaz animation pack, you have to regenerate your FNIS for users output. That includes when you update the FNIS or Sexlab or Zaz etc versions... or if you remove them temporarily to fix a problem. 99% of crashes while the game is loading up (before the continue/load/new game/etc menu comes up) is due to a missing master dependency. If you use Mod Organizer, you can scroll through and look for the missing master flag... wrye bash sometimes warns if there's a missing master file when you regenerate your bashed patch as well. If you use any skyproc mods like Dual Sheath Redux you have to regenerate those patches any time you change your load order or add/remove any mods as well.

 

And actually autosaves are the most easily corrupted saves. That's why most people tend to use a savegame manager like AutoSave Manager http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/34842/? and turn off all of the autosave options in game and set them up how they like in the manager. I personally leave all the autosave options off and just have it do the incremental saves every 10 minutes and set the f4 save to either manual saves or incremental saves... and set incremental saves to keep 50 of them. And any time I want to make an archive save, like before questing in a certain area (especially if I'm testing a mod) or at a turning point in the character I use the console and type "Save whatevernameIwanttogiveit" without the quotations of course.

 

It does sound like it might be a framework issue though if you're doing everything right and you're having the same results on a brand new game. Either somewhere you're having a user error or something is conflicting. If the only sexlab mods you're loading are matchmaker and submit then it's either a conflict with a non sexlab mod or you accidentally skipped a step or did something wrong somewhere. Hard to say which it is though.

[jukem]

I haven't yet tried a new game.  I just didn't want to wait through all the hassle but maybe I should since the issue isn't resolved.  I also have never used Mod Organizer or Wrye Bash.  I only use Nexus Mod Manager.  I even stopped using BOSS because I didn't like the order it gave and often times it is wrong from what the mod says to do.  I guess I could try one to remove the master dependencies?  Maybe that will fix it?

 

One other thing I find annoying is I downloaded a cheat very early on that allows me to spawn horses and such but I don't use it or like it.  I can't get rid of it though because I get that same issue of the game crashing on the main menu if I remove it.

 

I don't know.  It's just kind of frustrating when my game is actually running and I update something to get new features and that is when I have problems.

[Destynova99]

You'd have to use Mod Organizer from a fresh game install... though it has instructions on how to revert your game to a vanilla state if you didn't have a backup from then. So don't switch over unless you decide to reinstall/start fresh someday. Once you do though it significantly decreases your concerns about remnant leftover files messing things up... or missing files from uninstalling a mod and not having all the overwritten files restored to their previous state. All files are kept separate and it creates a virtual data directory when you load the game. On the latest version it even creates the virtual directory and starts the game up a lot faster than it did... for me barely longer than it took to load the game before I switched over. And my game is a lot more stable now since I followed the STEP guide and then built from there.

 

But anyway, for now, yeah try a new game to see if your issues are still present. If everything works then it's a savegame issue... if you're getting the same problems then it's a mod issue... either a conflict, an error on an install somewhere, orphaned files, or an actual framework bug. Narrowing it down if it's not a savegame issue is a lot more complex and time consuming though.

[jukem]

All that sounds awesome to have Mod Organizer.  Almost makes me want to start over again anyway.  I have been in almost every city though doing mostly side quests but some main quests and am at level 35.

 

I'll try a new game and if I still have the issue, maybe I'll post something in the Framework thread to see if someone has suggestions.  If the issue goes away, it will be very frustrating but at least I'll know the problem.  Thanks for your help!

 

EDIT: A new game solved the problem.  Good but bummer.  I now pretty much have a choice between no Sexlab or a new game.  Oh well.

[ukshadow]

Ok, some bandits came after the wife and took her to some cave. I beat the female bandit with the message and left her tied up. I went to rescue my wife, but by the time I return the bandit has somehow escaped, taking the gag with her, leaving me without only 9 left. Is there some way to track down the thief, or at least recover the gag?

[Exibitions]

Permanently stuck being bound after being defeated and tied up by the side of the road...how do I fix this?

[Destynova99]

 

Permanently stuck being bound after being defeated and tied up by the side of the road...how do I fix this?

 

Try rebinding your submit hotkey, every now and then the key stopped working for me to get out of binds but setting it again fixed it.