Elzee's Supermutant Ragdoll Fix

[Destynova99]

55 minutes ago, tuxagent7 said:

 

Dont install the esp fix for supermutant from UAP

 

Erase Supermutant skeleton in UAP

 

Profit $$$

Ah, the skeleton bit is the one I need to do, I'll bet. Thanks. Just the skeleton.nif file or the skeleton.hkx file also?

Edited July 12, 2022 by Destynova99
Adding a clarifying question

[tuxagent7]

On 7/12/2022 at 10:02 AM, Destynova99 said:

Ah, the skeleton bit is the one I need to do, I'll bet. Thanks. Just the skeleton.nif file or the skeleton.hkx file also?

 

Good question, didn't take the chance...

 

Ended up hiding both, you can rename both files another name so you can change it back in case

 

Edit : Nope don't do what i have written

Edited July 13, 2022 by tuxagent7

[Cookiemonsta234]

5 hours ago, Slorm said:

 

I always found suiciders annoying, pointless and stupid so I used this which replaces them with ordinary mutants https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/9444

Didn't know this one existed. Yes, they can be all of those things but I like explosions and with the more enemies mod there are a lot https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/30765

[Destynova99]

On 7/12/2022 at 11:45 AM, tuxagent7 said:

 

Good question, didn't take the chance...

 

Ended up hiding both, you can rename both files another name so you can change it back in case

So removing the skeleton turns the super mutant penis into a stretched out buggy mess that pokes out even from under their clothes. Sure they fall as they're supposed to but you can accomplish the same thing by just removing the edits done to supermutants leaving them as completely vanilla. It also breaks the penis for animations so supermutants just sort of hump you with their ken doll crotches, or with their penis stretched to infinity and beyond behind them. So unless there's some way of making this work without removing the skeleton, or until the fixed skeleton gets finished, we're still essentially left with the option of vanilla supermutants or freezing on death supermutants with intact junk. The only option this mod seems to add is breaking the penis to add mostly working non-freezing death animations.

Unless there's a step we're missing that makes it all work, in which case, please, enlighten us.

[vaultbait]

43 minutes ago, Destynova99 said:

So removing the skeleton turns the super mutant penis into a stretched out buggy mess that pokes out even from under their clothes. Sure they fall as they're supposed to but you can accomplish the same thing by just removing the edits done to supermutants leaving them as completely vanilla. It also breaks the penis for animations so supermutants just sort of hump you with their ken doll crotches, or with their penis stretched to infinity and beyond behind them. So unless there's some way of making this work without removing the skeleton, or until the fixed skeleton gets finished, we're still essentially left with the option of vanilla supermutants or freezing on death supermutants with intact junk. The only option this mod seems to add is breaking the penis to add mostly working non-freezing death animations.

Unless there's a step we're missing that makes it all work, in which case, please, enlighten us.

 

As far as I have seen, this is working along with the skeleton provided by Creature Resources. I didn't delete any skeleton files, I just uninstalled the other super mutant freeze fixes/workarounds I'd previously used (including Don't Lose Your Head).

[tuxagent7]

1 hour ago, Destynova99 said:

So removing the skeleton turns the super mutant penis into a stretched out buggy mess that pokes out even from under their clothes

 

Yes i seem to see the problem and i misread what a user had written in this thread, i just tested in game and you don't erase the skeleton because you lose control of the super mutant penis.

 

You just replace the supermutantfreezingfix.esp with this one and it should work 95% of time

 

I am sorry to have misguided you

 

Edit : I have edited my older posts

Edited July 13, 2022 by tuxagent7

[Destynova99]

1 hour ago, tuxagent7 said:

 

Yes i seem to see the problem and i misread what a user had written in this thread, i just tested in game and you don't erase the skeleton because you lose control of the super mutant penis.

 

You just replace the supermutantfreezingfix.esp with this one and it should work 95% of time

 

I am sorry to have misguided you

 

Edit : I have edited my older posts

That's what I had done originally and I was still getting super mutants freezing on death pretty much every time. So now I don't know what to think. ?

 

Does anything look wrong here?

Edited July 14, 2022 by Destynova99
Because I'm a monkey with a stick

[tuxagent7]

1 hour ago, Destynova99 said:

Does anything look wrong here?

 

 

Seems right, did you check with FO4Edit to see if something was conflicting with the esp ?

 

 

[Destynova99]

8 minutes ago, tuxagent7 said:

 

 

Seems right, did you check with FO4Edit to see if something was conflicting with the esp ?

 

 

 

Nope, it's winning all conflicts

[smashl66]

Late to the party as always...

 

Thank you elzee, works well with my old and outdated AAF 1.33b & UAP 2.1.0 install.

I had no other freeze fixer mods installed at any point in my save.

Wish I'd found your fix sooner

 

Hope it works just as well when I update all my mods to current date and start a new game (fingers crossed).

[South8028]

What exactly is the problem there? In the skeleton, or in skeleton.hkx? Maybe just take a vanilla skeleton and re-add penis bones to it? Will this solve the problem? I got the corpses hanging in the air.

[vaultbait]

6 hours ago, South8028 said:

What exactly is the problem there? In the skeleton, or in skeleton.hkx? Maybe just take a vanilla skeleton and re-add penis bones to it? Will this solve the problem? I got the corpses hanging in the air.

 

Yes, there was a lengthy discussion, but the end result is that Creature Resources 1.1.5 now has a repaired skeleton so if you're using that (or UAP since it's included there too) then you shouldn't experience that problem any longer. If you're using those and still seeing the freeze, make sure the skeleton from CR/UAP isn't being overwritten by one from, say, an animation pack.

 

Edit: Specifically, make sure the Meshes\Actors\Supermutant\CharacterAssets\skeleton.hkx from CR or UAP is not being overwritten and wins any conflicts with the same file in other mods you may be using.

Edited December 11, 2022 by vaultbait

[South8028]

On 12/11/2022 at 4:49 PM, vaultbait said:

 

Yes, there was a lengthy discussion, but the end result is that Creature Resources 1.1.5 now has a repaired skeleton so if you're using that (or UAP since it's included there too) then you shouldn't experience that problem any longer. If you're using those and still seeing the freeze, make sure the skeleton from CR/UAP isn't being overwritten by one from, say, an animation pack.

 

Edit: Specifically, make sure the Meshes\Actors\Supermutant\CharacterAssets\skeleton.hkx from CR or UAP is not being overwritten and wins any conflicts with the same file in other mods you 

yeah. Thank you.