Being a Cow (Alternate Version)

[botticelli]

4 hours ago, ScreamingBabitos said:

Edit: The problem seems to be related to the face morphs. Every mutation works except for the face morphs.

CowFace or CowHead? The latter didn't work with SE before 2.0.8. I have created new SE CowHeads based on the femalehead.nif which comes packed with vanilla Skyrim SE. For those you need to install the BAC SE loose files archive. Any SE versions prior to 2.0.8 caused CTDs with the CowHead mutations. The solution back then was to install the LE head meshes. The CowFace mutations only change nose, mouth, and eye presets. I've never heard of any CTDs related to those yet.

 

***EDIT*** The files in question are data\meshes\bac\heads\femalehead_stage_<xxx>.nif

Edited December 22, 2023 by botticelli

[Guest]

My PC has purple horns and ears, like the textures are missing. I have the alt bodyslide, I ran the BodySlide , I am not sure what I did wrong...

Milk Mod Economy SE & Requirements, bac 2.0.8 SE, CBBE 3ba, Skyrim SE v 1.5.97 downgraded, Vortex, if anyone could please tell me what I did wrong I would be most appreciative!

Thanks.

 

First time using this mod setup      Thank you for sharing this with us all @botticelli

 

EDIT:  Do I need the 3 JSON files? Body Morph, Denied Food, & Grazeables??

 

 

 

Edited December 22, 2023 by Sir Bron
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[Guest]

My second issue is the map to the farm house between Riften & Ivarstead.

I found the Farmhouse.

 

 

Edited December 22, 2023 by Sir Bron

[ebbluminous]

1 hour ago, Sir Bron said:

My second issue is the map to the farm house between Riften & Ivarstead.

I found the Farmhouse.

 

 

 

There is a texture mod pack you need ot install as well

[Guest]

1 hour ago, ebbluminous said:

There is a texture mod pack you need ot install as well

Where is it located? I don't see it in the downloads tab, see spoiler please.

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

[ebbluminous]

27 minutes ago, Sir Bron said:

Where is it located? I don't see it in the downloads tab, see spoiler please.

 

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It is the bac_2.0.8.LE+SE-tats.7z - second from bottom

 

Oh and install bac_2.0.8_SE-loose_files.7z if on SE or the LE version if on LE. It is needed in addition to the core file. I made that mistake thinking there was a loose and non loose version that some modders do, but they are two parts of the overall mod

 

Edited December 22, 2023 by ebbluminous

[Guest]

32 minutes ago, ebbluminous said:

It is the bac_2.0.8.LE+SE-tats.7z - second from bottom

I have that installed and followed all the direction that was for the BodySlide as well as the ini instructions. ran BodySlide 2 different times, don't know what I am doing wrong.

EDIT: I missed the part where you said to download the loose file set, So Sorry!

I just had Cataract surgery on both eyes and my vision is not nearly back yet.

Doing that now.

Edited December 22, 2023 by Sir Bron

[Guest]

44 minutes ago, ebbluminous said:

It is the bac_2.0.8.LE+SE-tats.7z - second from bottom

 

Oh and install bac_2.0.8_SE-loose_files.7z if on SE or the LE version if on LE. It is needed in addition to the core file. I made that mistake thinking there was a loose and non loose version that some modders do, but they are two parts of the overall mod

 

Success, the loose files you mentioned fixed it. Thank You so much for your help!!

 

 

[ebbluminous]

1 hour ago, Sir Bron said:

I have that installed and followed all the direction that was for the BodySlide as well as the ini instructions. ran BodySlide 2 different times, don't know what I am doing wrong.

EDIT: I missed the part where you said to download the loose file set, So Sorry!

I just had Cataract surgery on both eyes and my vision is not nearly back yet.

Doing that now.

 

50 minutes ago, Sir Bron said:

Success, the loose files you mentioned fixed it. Thank You so much for your help!!

 

 

 

Don't worry, my eyes are terrible as well, glad to have helped

[StripedWhite]

I am having the issue of not being able to progress the Unowned quest when being captured by the hunters and being stuck with a black screen and my character not being moved to the wagon. I read that the "bac_furniture" alias for the quest "bac_capturedcow" needs to point at the correct thing, but mine points at "NONE", which I understand is a problem.

 

This is on a save that has previously had earlier versions of the mod, and I am unable/unwilling to roll that far back in my saves on this particular character to a time when I hadn't installed the update that caused this problem (if I'm understanding things correctly from skimming through this thread). Is there a way to fix this, or would I simply have to start a new character to have it work properly?

[Guest]

@botticelli Is there a PDF guide for this Mod? A how to...

Thanks, having fun with it.

[VibrantPen]

At wits end ?

 

BaC (2.07) was working before Skyrim update (AE)

 

Took the opportunity (hah!) to move Skyrim over to new SSD and start with fresh install. Also bumped up BaC to 2.08, and all the dependencies

 

Only thing diff from install  directions is DD 5.2 is overwritten by DD NG 0.2.9 to get rid of the incompatible dll

 

So far runs well... until phase 6

As I read the crashlog and Papyrus0, it looks like it CTDs as soon as it tries to apply the 1st fur(?)

 

Read the earlier post about DDS compression, and am wondering if my install has the wrong textures? Wrong order?

 

Help?

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

[botticelli]

6 hours ago, VibrantPen said:

Read the earlier post about DDS compression, and am wondering if my install has the wrong textures? Wrong order?

The older compression types still work in newer versions of Skyrim, so LE textures will work in SE and AE, just not the other way round.

As for the CTD: stage 6 tries to equip the combo object horns&ears two times (Slots 42 (circlet/helmet) and 55 (ears)). Did you set BAC on hardcore mode and have any item in those slots that is not a DD item but refuses unequipping? An other possibility would be a mutation handed out at stage 6 if you have the mutations start as low as that. We had problems with the CowHead mutations causing CTDs before. Since 2.0.8 I have created new CowHeads from the SE femalehead.nif in order to get rid of those CTDs. Maybe it didn't work?

 

10 hours ago, StripedWhite said:

I read that the "bac_furniture" alias for the quest "bac_capturedcow" needs to point at the correct thing, but mine points at "NONE", which I understand is a problem.

It is. You need (a) the correct ZaZ version (8.0+) for that alias to be filled correctly, and (b) once that quest is started and the alias failed to fill, installing ZaZ afterwards will not help because those aliases are filled at quest start. If you have a save from just before Unowned starting, that could work *after* installing ZaZ 8.0+. The plus sign is part of the version number. This does *not* mean "any version 8.0 or above"!

[botticelli]

8 hours ago, Sir Bron said:

@botticelli Is there a PDF guide for this Mod? A how to...

Thanks, having fun with it.

Not yet, I'm planning on doing a blog post for that since pdfs also tend to become deprecated.

[ScreamingBabitos]

21 hours ago, botticelli said:

CowFace or CowHead? The latter didn't work with SE before 2.0.8. I have created new SE CowHeads based on the femalehead.nif which comes packed with vanilla Skyrim SE. For those you need to install the BAC SE loose files archive. Any SE versions prior to 2.0.8 caused CTDs with the CowHead mutations. The solution back then was to install the LE head meshes. The CowFace mutations only change nose, mouth, and eye presets. I've never heard of any CTDs related to those yet.

 

***EDIT*** The files in question are data\meshes\bac\heads\femalehead_stage_<xxx>.nif

 

CowHead, I'm not sure why but Cowhead was causing CTDs even with the 2.0.8 update. I switched to 2.0.8 LE CowHead and it fixed it. Everything is working normal now.

 

I would like to ask one more thing though, do you have any tricks for getting SLIF to work correctly with BAC? SLIF deforms the belly really weirdly and sometimes the breast morphs don't work correctly. That might just be an issue with the 3BBB body I'm using though.

Edited December 23, 2023 by ScreamingBabitos

[Guest]

1 hour ago, botticelli said:

Not yet, I'm planning on doing a blog post for that since pdfs also tend to become deprecated.

I am having a time finding the Cubes for E.L.L.E. when the spiders are destroyed and explode anything not nailed down goes flying. Plus there are no location markers when I get a quest.

A repair manual for E.L.L.E. would be a great assistance in my first time playthrough.

Thank You for the Mod and the work you put into it.

[mirksx]

Hi there, I'm trying the SE-version (had the converted ones earlier). It seems, that I still need the bac_heads -> otherwise I get CTDs once my character receives the head mutation.

But as I understood a few postings earlier, that shouldn't be the case with 2.0.8 anymore (the necessity for the bac_heads), right? So could anyone please point me in the right direction? Thanks

 

EDIT: It seems I'm experiencing the same behavior as ScreamingBabitos two posts above... (sorry for the double-post)

Edited December 23, 2023 by mirksx

[VibrantPen]

2 hours ago, botticelli said:

The older compression types still work in newer versions of Skyrim, so LE textures will work in SE and AE, just not the other way round.

As for the CTD: stage 6 tries to equip the combo object horns&ears two times (Slots 42 (circlet/helmet) and 55 (ears)). Did you set BAC on hardcore mode and have any item in those slots that is not a DD item but refuses unequipping? An other possibility would be a mutation handed out at stage 6 if you have the mutations start as low as that. We had problems with the CowHead mutations causing CTDs before. Since 2.0.8 I have created new CowHeads from the SE femalehead.nif in order to get rid of those CTDs. Maybe it didn't work?

 

 

Well, damn.

 

I was so hoping I was just being stupid >_>

 

All settings are vanilla while testing (also, clean new install, nothing left over - only 59 mods! I feel so nekkid!), so not in hardcore, and (according to DD) nothing in slot 42|55. Random mutations are off and anyway, this happens *every* (40-50 tries) time - so not random. Tried overriding your 2.08 heads with the ones that worked in 2.07: no joy ?

 

This morning's thud ended with a "mark" being "-2" (just changed debug to verbose)

Also, sometimes, maybe 1 in 3 tries, "Soul Gift Added" will flash in upper left corner just before CTD

 

Been banging my head on the keyboard for a week. Swear I'ma gonna kick my Skyrim habit pretty soon >_>

 

^_^

[VibrantPen]

@botticelli

Also, tho I didn't say it, Thank you very much for your enduring presence.

I not only enjoy the mod (since 2018? can't remember, but before SE anyway), but am truly impressed by your stamina in maintaining, improving and championing it

 

Kudos from a very old cow

[botticelli]

2 hours ago, Sir Bron said:

I am having a time finding the Cubes for E.L.L.E. when the spiders are destroyed and explode anything not nailed down goes flying. Plus there are no location markers when I get a quest.

A repair manual for E.L.L.E. would be a great assistance in my first time playthrough.

Thank You for the Mod and the work you put into it.

You are probably in the wrong thread here. I have no idea of what you are talking about...

 

3 hours ago, ScreamingBabitos said:

I would like to ask one more thing though, do you have any tricks for getting SLIF to work correctly with BAC? SLIF deforms the belly really weirdly and sometimes the breast morphs don't work correctly. That might just be an issue with the 3BBB body I'm using though.

Check data\SKSE\Plugins\StorageUtilData\Sexlab Inflation Framework. In that directory tree are several JSON files with the bodymorphs. You might want to look for some better matching your body replacer or change them yourself.

 

3 hours ago, ScreamingBabitos said:

CowHead, I'm not sure why but Cowhead was causing CTDs even with the 2.0.8 update. I switched to 2.0.8 LE CowHead and it fixed it. Everything is working normal now.

Ok I gote mine from data\Skyrim - Meshes0.bsa - but I have downgraded that from the AE version. Maybe the AE nifs are not compatible with SE? Can someone please post a genuine femalehead.nif that originates definitely from Skyrim SE? Then we can try this out.

 

1 hour ago, VibrantPen said:

This morning's thud ended with a "mark" being "-2" (just changed debug to verbose)

That is the faction for the brandings. You won't get those prior to the quest line. Faction rank -2 only means that you are  not in that faction.

[Guest]

Just now, botticelli said:

You are probably in the wrong thread here. I have no idea of what you are talking about...

So the dwemer robot is not part of your mod, she showed up after I installed BAC and Milk Mod Economy.

[botticelli]

1 hour ago, Sir Bron said:

So the dwemer robot is not part of your mod, she showed up after I installed BAC and Milk Mod Economy.

This:

4 hours ago, Sir Bron said:

I am having a time finding the Cubes for E.L.L.E. when the spiders are destroyed and explode anything not nailed down goes flying. Plus there are no location markers when I get a quest.

A repair manual for E.L.L.E. would be a great assistance in my first time playthrough.

is not part of my mod. There is a dwemer "mech" stationed at Whiterun stables to catch runaway cows. But that has nothing to do with some cubes or anything.

[ebbluminous]

2 hours ago, Sir Bron said:

So the dwemer robot is not part of your mod, she showed up after I installed BAC and Milk Mod Economy.

If I remember correctly, it is part of Deep Blue Frog's stuff. I think Devious Stories.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, botticelli said:

This:

is not part of my mod. There is a dwemer "mech" stationed at Whiterun stables to catch runaway cows. But that has nothing to do with some cubes or anything.

My apologies, I just stuck my foot in my mouth there. 

 

48 minutes ago, ebbluminous said:

If I remember correctly, it is part of Deep Blue Frog's stuff. I think Devious Stories.

Thanks, I forgot I installed that with the other 2 mods. Much appreciated.

SexLab Stories.

Edited December 23, 2023 by Sir Bron

[Drummer_I]

Mod is awesome, after 1 day i'm complete install all things, but how i can fuck with someone, i have 0stim but i think its not work, how i can start scene with sexlab? Dialogue have i need something -> uh nevermind but once i succsesfull ask guard to milk me how it's work??? SE version

Edited December 23, 2023 by Drummer_I