VirginMarie Posted December 2, 2021 Author Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Vampir2005 said: Hi, now for the Bugs: 1. time entering the "Kopie" of the Nightingale Hall, wenn you enter the Room with the 3 Stones " where at the Original Hall you bekomme your Nightingale Armor Set " see Screenshot 702 Here are No way to play further , my quick and Dirty solve are use TCL to go to this Chamber. If You go the next time there, the Bug is gone. I do not understand. What problem you are trying to describe? You are the first person to report a need to TCL. If it's a problem with this mod, it must be rare since nobody else has reported it. Yes it's a copy of the Nightingale Hall, so I know the location. I also know where the armor is acquired, so I know that specific location, but this does not tell me what the problem is Sounds like you are blocked by something, thus using TCL. Is not normally possible, which is leading met to think you are running on a corrupt save When you first installed Toys, the requirement is a new game. Did you start a new game? If no, this is most likely the problem. Does the Installation Test in Toys MCM (first tab), succeed? If no, nothing else matters, this must first be solved. The first thing to confirm is that it's not caused by a corrupt save. We must rule out corrupt save. See Golden Rule for details on cause. To confirm, start a new game, and go to that location again, see if the same problem recreates. I expect that it will not. But if it does, next we must look at conflicts with other mods. If you wish to help me diagnose... Please provide a description of the problem that I can understand, and your papyrus log covering the game session where you... started a new game (no load of an early save)... ran the Toys MCM Installation Test... recreated the problem... exited to desktop. There's a how to get a papyrus log in the FAQs. 4 hours ago, Vampir2005 said: 2. Your mod works fine with DD, but DD ignores all your Items and kicks them. Yes. That is what you should expect. It is working as intended. It's documented in FAQ 7. Also documented under Known Mod Conflicts at that link. We WANT the toys to be removed so we don't block and break DD quests. DD would need to be Toys-aware for this to be better. 4 hours ago, Vampir2005 said: 3. The function ( see Screenshot 708 ) are not functioning. This is working exactly as intended. Toy Boxes will not load on the new game. This is to avoid the new game startup issues where too much is happening. Other mods use similar techniques. Sexlab and DD do similar. Toy boxes load when you use a save. EDIT: Also see my reply to you before... here. Edited December 2, 2021 by VirginMarie
Vampir2005 Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 4 hours ago, VirginMarie said: I do not understand. What problem you are trying to describe? You are the first person to report a need to TCL. If it's a problem with this mod, it must be rare since nobody else has reported it. Yes it's a copy of the Nightingale Hall, so I know the location. I also know where the armor is acquired, so I know that specific location, but this does not tell me what the problem is Sounds like you are blocked by something, thus using TCL. Is not normally possible, which is leading met to think you are running on a corrupt save When you first installed Toys, the requirement is a new game. Did you start a new game? If no, this is most likely the problem. Does the Installation Test in Toys MCM (first tab), succeed? If no, nothing else matters, this must first be solved. The first thing to confirm is that it's not caused by a corrupt save. We must rule out corrupt save. See Golden Rule for details on cause. To confirm, start a new game, and go to that location again, see if the same problem recreates. I expect that it will not. But if it does, next we must look at conflicts with other mods. If you wish to help me diagnose... Please provide a description of the problem that I can understand, and your papyrus log covering the game session where you... started a new game (no load of an early save)... ran the Toys MCM Installation Test... recreated the problem... exited to desktop. There's a how to get a papyrus log in the FAQs. Yes. That is what you should expect. It is working as intended. It's documented in FAQ 7. Also documented under Known Mod Conflicts at that link. We WANT the toys to be removed so we don't block and break DD quests. DD would need to be Toys-aware for this to be better. This is working exactly as intended. Toy Boxes will not load on the new game. This is to avoid the new game startup issues where too much is happening. Other mods use similar techniques. Sexlab and DD do similar. Toy boxes load when you use a save. EDIT: Also see my reply to you before... here. To 1. yes if go the first time to the room for the Armor my funktion keys are disabled, IE. i cant move my Char. 2. this whit the Boxes are forever IE. when i load a save. ( it´s always the Same ) 3. For the Compatibility whit DD, maybe a patch where you add tags are used in DD because DD removed any of your Items. Ps. Sorry for my bad English, it`s not my natural Tounge.
VirginMarie Posted December 2, 2021 Author Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Vampir2005 said: To 1. yes if go the first time to the room for the Armor my funktion keys are disabled, IE. i cant move my Char. Not a bug... You have a corrupt save or other installation issue. 52 minutes ago, Vampir2005 said: 2. this whit the Boxes are forever IE. when i load a save. ( it´s always the Same ) Not a bug... You have a corrupt save or other installation issue. 52 minutes ago, Vampir2005 said: 3. For the Compatibility whit DD, maybe a patch where you add tags are used in DD because DD removed any of your Items. As stated, its working as intended. There is nothing to change. Toys already plays nice with DD. All that CAN be done IS done. Which mod is the problem? DD is removing toys. So... the only way to change this is to change DD. Do you see? I'm not making a patch that changes DD. A. You have not answered these... (copied from above) When you first installed Toys, the requirement is a new game. Did you start a new game? If no, this is most likely the problem. Does the Installation Test in Toys MCM (first tab), succeed? If no, nothing else matters, this must first be solved. B. I need your log... (copied from above) If you wish to help me diagnose... Please provide a description of the problem that I can understand, and your papyrus log covering the game session where you... started a new game (no load of an early save)... ran the Toys MCM Installation Test... recreated the problem... exited to desktop. There's a how to get a papyrus log in the FAQs. Please, no more posts, without A and B. Edited December 2, 2021 by VirginMarie
Vampir2005 Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, VirginMarie said: Not a bug... You have a corrupt save or other installation issue. Not a bug... You have a corrupt save or other installation issue. As stated, its working as intended. There is nothing to change. Toys already plays nice with DD. All that CAN be done IS done. Which mod is the problem? DD is removing toys. So... the only way to change this is to change DD. Do you see? I'm not making a patch that changes DD. A. You have not answered these... (copied from above) When you first installed Toys, the requirement is a new game. Did you start a new game? If no, this is most likely the problem. Does the Installation Test in Toys MCM (first tab), succeed? If no, nothing else matters, this must first be solved. B. I need your log... (copied from above) If you wish to help me diagnose... Please provide a description of the problem that I can understand, and your papyrus log covering the game session where you... started a new game (no load of an early save)... ran the Toys MCM Installation Test... recreated the problem... exited to desktop. There's a how to get a papyrus log in the FAQs. Please, no more posts, without A and B. Forget it.
thombur Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 Is there way to avoid the foot fetish parts of toy story? As someone without that particular kink, I can't get past nelecar as I just tab out when there isn't an option to say something like "no thats gross, I'll figure my own way into the college." If not no biggie, this mod just won't be for me lol.
VirginMarie Posted December 7, 2021 Author Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, thombur said: Is there way to avoid the foot fetish parts of toy story? As someone without that particular kink, I can't get past nelecar as I just tab out when there isn't an option to say something like "no thats gross, I'll figure my own way into the college." If not no biggie, this mod just won't be for me lol. All animation scenes in any of our mods can be skipped (ended early) by pressing and holding the Toys "advance" hot key. It's spacebar by default. Edited December 7, 2021 by VirginMarie
VirginMarie Posted December 14, 2021 Author Posted December 14, 2021 Toy Story V1.2 Has Released What's New Minor changes and fixes See Change Log 2
golden2415 Posted December 21, 2021 Posted December 21, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 4:14 AM, donttouchmethere said: Does that mean you found a solution or are you just trying to be rude? he said that English is not his mother tongue sp he probabl didn't want to be rude or sth 1
donttouchmethere Posted December 21, 2021 Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, golden2415 said: he said that English is not his mother tongue sp he probabl didn't want to be rude or sth He is from Germany and the whole thing is rude in German too (not answering questions and then rush out with a "forget it") ? Of course you're right,w hen in doubt, give the defendant the benefit of the doubt. ?? Edited December 22, 2021 by donttouchmethere
mikey7979 Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 I see that there is an issue with the Zed Quest if you are using Obscures College of Winterhold, but what about Immersive College of Winterhold https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17004 ? I cannot seem to find a bookcase/chest in the Curious Curio quest. Where exactly is this bookcase suppose to be?
VirginMarie Posted December 29, 2021 Author Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, mikey7979 said: I see that there is an issue with the Zed Quest if you are using Obscures College of Winterhold, but what about Immersive College of Winterhold https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17004 ? I cannot seem to find a bookcase/chest in the Curious Curio quest. Where exactly is this bookcase suppose to be? Bookcase is a few bookcases to the right of the desk that has the key, if you are facing the bookcases. It's name is "Bookcase That Shall not be Named". If you don't see that uniquely named bookcase, either you have a mod conflict, or a corrupt save. Corrupt save comes from breaking the golden rule (example: not starting a new game when you first installed Toys). Don't know about that mod. Might need to list it as a conflict if we can confirm. It might be a case where it can work if Toy Story comes after that mod in your load order. If that is not currently your case, it would be helpful to know if the load order change is a fix. Since that breaks the golden rule, the test is only complete if you start a new game. It's a high chance it would fix. Edited December 29, 2021 by VirginMarie
Broomemike Posted January 1, 2022 Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) I can't seem to find the last box in the curio quest. I'm in a narrow canyon with a bunch of falmer, but the quest marker seems like it's on the other side of the canyon wall. Any tips? Do I need to go over, under, or back out and find another entrance? This place is such a maze!! BTW, I love your mods, guys! So much better than the DD stuff that I toyed with earlier... If you'll forgive the pun. Edited January 1, 2022 by Broomemike Expressing appreciation
VirginMarie Posted January 1, 2022 Author Posted January 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, Broomemike said: I can't seem to find the last box in the curio quest. I'm in a narrow canyon with a bunch of falmer, but the quest marker seems like it's on the other side of the canyon wall. Any tips? Do I need to go over, under, or back out and find another entrance? This place is such a maze!! BTW, I love your mods, guys! So much better than the DD stuff that I toyed with earlier... If you'll forgive the pun. Spank the Falmers hard. Let Wojtek keep them distracted. That is all Oh wait, this was not a question about how to spank Falmers... Its hard to describe. Back out? I really can't say as I don't know where you are.
Broomemike Posted January 2, 2022 Posted January 2, 2022 I decided to cheat: no clip until I found the fancy bridge, followed it back to where I should have seen the path, then reloaded, and pretended I hadn't walked right past the fork in the road. I started to wonder if I had messed up my install, so I had a peek:) Thanks!
VirginMarie Posted January 2, 2022 Author Posted January 2, 2022 29 minutes ago, Broomemike said: I decided to cheat: no clip until I found the fancy bridge, followed it back to where I should have seen the path, then reloaded, and pretended I hadn't walked right past the fork in the road. I started to wonder if I had messed up my install, so I had a peek:) Thanks! *giggles* Good! But did you spank the Falmers hard!!?
mikey7979 Posted January 2, 2022 Posted January 2, 2022 On 12/29/2021 at 11:42 AM, VirginMarie said: Bookcase is a few bookcases to the right of the desk that has the key, if you are facing the bookcases. It's name is "Bookcase That Shall not be Named". If you don't see that uniquely named bookcase, either you have a mod conflict, or a corrupt save. Corrupt save comes from breaking the golden rule (example: not starting a new game when you first installed Toys). Don't know about that mod. Might need to list it as a conflict if we can confirm. It might be a case where it can work if Toy Story comes after that mod in your load order. If that is not currently your case, it would be helpful to know if the load order change is a fix. Since that breaks the golden rule, the test is only complete if you start a new game. It's a high chance it would fix. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I am a MO2 user and I have a second profile set-up using the same character in which I can test things like this (changing mod orders and new complex mods in a current play through) without harming my current play through. When I test a scenario such as the one you suggested, I save the game and then manually move that save to a separate folder. The Toy Story.esp was higher in the load order than any of the Immersive College of Winterhold esps, when I moved the Toy Story esp lower in the load order it did not resolve the issue. So it probably does require a new game to fix, which is not an option for me at this point because I am over 85% complete on this play through. I opened up SSEdit using the 4 esps from Immersive College of Winterhold and the Toy Story esp and applied a filter to show conflicts and there is indeed a conflict between your bookcase and a bookcase from Immersive College of Winterhold. I even tried to create a patch (something that I had never tried before) and that did not work either. So I will just trudge on, maybe someone with more knowledge and know-how will come along and create a patch that will actually work.
VirginMarie Posted January 2, 2022 Author Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, mikey7979 said: when I moved the Toy Story esp lower in the load order it did not resolve the issue. Its now listed in Known Mod Conflicts here. I'm tempted to maybe add in the future, an alternate method of progressing past that quest stage. Like a 2nd location where you can find the note. Do these mods change the entire place, or just the library? Edited January 2, 2022 by VirginMarie
mikey7979 Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 15 hours ago, VirginMarie said: Its now listed in Known Mod Conflicts here. I'm tempted to maybe add in the future, an alternate method of progressing past that quest stage. Like a 2nd location where you can find the note. Do these mods change the entire place, or just the library? I cannot speak for the other mod Obscure's College of Winterhold but Immersive College of Winterhold does do a lot of work on the Library. For instance, there is a circular stairway in the center of the library that goes to a second level and the area next to the two stairways leading downstairs and to the Arch mage's Quarters has been altered significantly. Thank you for considering a fix to this quest in a future update of the mod. 1
edinburg Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) Decoupling rousing from SLA arousal in the latest version of Toys seems to cause issues with Toy Story, as there are several places in Toy Story's main script that check SLA arousal in order to advance the script. Most egregiously, the very first quest is broken, because the trial statue increases your rousing but Nightly won't let you leave until your SLA arousal reaches 95. Edited January 3, 2022 by edinburg
Broomemike Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 On 1/1/2022 at 11:16 PM, VirginMarie said: *giggles* Good! But did you spank the Falmers hard!!? I did! 1
VirginMarie Posted January 3, 2022 Author Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, edinburg said: Decoupling rousing from SLA arousal in the latest version of Toys seems to cause issues with Toy Story, as there are several places in Toy Story's main script that check SLA arousal in order to advance the script. Most egregiously, the very first quest is broken, because the trial statue increases your rousing but Nightly won't let you leave until your SLA arousal reaches 95. There's an update for Toy Story, coming shortly, that uses Rousing, not Arousal. I had better get it released sooner than later! Thanks for telling me about the trial statue, I hand not thought I had anything "show stopper" like that. You can however, use the "sync to SLA Arousal" option in the MCM, and then the Trial and all will work, same as with previous version of Toys. Edited January 3, 2022 by VirginMarie
VirginMarie Posted January 3, 2022 Author Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) NOTE TO EVERYONE... If you are getting stuck at the Trial Altar, and are using Toys v1.7 ... toggle "Sync to SLA Arousal" ON, in Toys MCM, Rousing & Denial tab. Best to leave that on when trying to summon Wojtek in battle too. This issue is now corrected in v1.21 Edited January 4, 2022 by VirginMarie
VirginMarie Posted January 4, 2022 Author Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) Toy Story V1.21 Has Released What's New Minor updates Includes a fix for the notice in the above post See Change Log Edited January 4, 2022 by VirginMarie
SilentAntagonist121 Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 Hi, this is the first time I'm using Toy Story, and I can't get past the first part. I search the scholar, it tells me to read the book, but nothing happens when I do. I've tried putting the stuff on before hand, I've tried dropping and repicking up the book, I've even gone through and actually read the whole thing, and nothing changes. The quest won't update and I can't proceed any further.
VirginMarie Posted January 5, 2022 Author Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, SilentAntagonist121 said: Hi, this is the first time I'm using Toy Story, and I can't get past the first part. I search the scholar, it tells me to read the book, but nothing happens when I do. I've tried putting the stuff on before hand, I've tried dropping and repicking up the book, I've even gone through and actually read the whole thing, and nothing changes. The quest won't update and I can't proceed any further. This would suggest that Toys is not fully installed/working. What happens if your run the Toys, MCM - Setup Tab - Installation Test? Does it pass or fail? Did you start a new game after installing Toys for the first time? It's required. If not, this is likely the problem If 1 is fail, follow the instructions is gives for a fail. If 2 is No, start a new game. If 1 is PASS, and 2 is YES.... I could look at your papyrus log. There's a "how to get a papyrus log" in the Toys FAQs if you need it. For the log, we want a game session where you... startup the game.... load the save before the problem happens... run the install test in Toys MCM first tab... Recreate the problem... then exit to desktop, grab that log. Edited January 5, 2022 by VirginMarie
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