ZeX - Fusion Girl

[vaultbait]

15 hours ago, Martok73 said:

This may be a weird question, but does this body mod support dismemberment while naked? I know that while the body has vanilla clothing equipped it is possible to shot off the head, legs and arms, however I am having extremely difficulty taking off any body part while the body is naked with nothing equipped. So I was wondering if it supports it while completely naked or if it only works while there are vanilla clothing equipped?

 

No, FG has too many polygons to support dismemberment. There are some altered FG bodies floating around on Nexus with sufficiently reduced polygon count to work with dismemberment, but I've not personally tried using any of them as nude body replacers.

[AndarielHalo]

3 hours ago, vaultbait said:

 

Newer versions of both Fusion Girl and BodyTalk had their LooksMenu slider data and sample BodyGen configs moved into a separate mod called ZeX-ZBG. Unfortunately, the author has (temporarily? permanently? i don't know) removed its download page about a week ago. Supposedly a reason was given in Discord., but at the moment I'm having trouble joining the server so I don't know any more than that. In the meantime, the discussion topic for ZeX-ZBG is still accessible, at least.

 

Edit: Someone helpfully copy-pasted the announcement here:

 

 

Hopefully the LooksMenu slider data will get bundled into FG and BodyTalk updates or something, since the support headaches sound like they all stem from the sample BodyGen configs included in ZeX-ZBG.

 

 

 

 

Thanks.  I think I found the file uploaded somewhere to a different site, and will try it out to see if it works.  If you might happen to know, is the newer Fusion Girl still compatible with the older morphs generated or would I have to rebuild all the clothes morphs in BodySlide?

[Martok73]

7 hours ago, vaultbait said:

 

No, FG has too many polygons to support dismemberment. There are some altered FG bodies floating around on Nexus with sufficiently reduced polygon count to work with dismemberment, but I've not personally tried using any of them as nude body replacers.

Hmm, ok, interesting. So question, with this information, I am guessing that dismemberment is linked to the currently active "body nif", as in if they are clothed then the nif file for that piece of clothing controls whether or not the body can be dismembered or not, am I correct? Which if so would explain why female npcs can be "hacked to bits" while wearing clothes in my game, but can not be when they are nude. Is that correct or am I misunderstanding how dismemberment works entirely?

Edited June 8, 2024 by Martok73

[vaultbait]

14 hours ago, Martok73 said:

Hmm, ok, interesting. So question, with this information, I am guessing that dismemberment is linked to the currently active "body nif", as in if they are clothed then the nif file for that piece of clothing controls whether or not the body can be dismembered or not, am I correct? Which if so would explain why female npcs can be "hacked to bits" while wearing clothes in my game, but can not be when they are nude. Is that correct or am I misunderstanding how dismemberment works entirely?

 

Correct (though the meshes themselves also need to include dismemberment data that indicates where they can separate, it's not only about polygon count).

 

For example, the Classy Chassis Outfitters clothing replacers use an altered body for their FG-like conversions, Graf's FG Reduced, so as long as an NPC is wearing one of those outfits you can hack them up, but if you then take the clothes off their dismembered corpse the missing body parts come back when they're naked (because you're seeing the normal high-polygon FG body mesh instead at that point).

 

In theory you could build a nude Graf's FG Reduced body instead of a normal FG nude, but I've not tried that so your mileage may vary.

[Martok73]

11 hours ago, vaultbait said:

 

Correct (though the meshes themselves also need to include dismemberment data that indicates where they can separate, it's not only about polygon count).

 

For example, the Classy Chassis Outfitters clothing replacers use an altered body for their FG-like conversions, Graf's FG Reduced, so as long as an NPC is wearing one of those outfits you can hack them up, but if you then take the clothes off their dismembered corpse the missing body parts come back when they're naked (because you're seeing the normal high-polygon FG body mesh instead at that point).

 

In theory you could build a nude Graf's FG Reduced body instead of a normal FG nude, but I've not tried that so your mileage may vary.

Ahh, ok, that makes sense and also explains why suddenly the human females suddenly gained regenerative powers when dead and instantly regrew their missing body parts (minus the head), when stripped of their clothes. So does the same hold true for the male BodyTalk3 body as well? I honestly haven't paid much attention as to whether or not it regrows missing limbs when dead and nude, but I do notice blowing off body parts while they are fully clothed, same with the females. Blow off a leg or an arm, or both while they are wearing vanilla clothing, but the women regrow their limbs when I loot everything from their corpse. They don't regrow their heads tho, so not totally demonic, LOL. As for mod added clothing, I only use a couple mod outfits and non are on npcs and only worn by my character. Speaking of the PC, are there any mods that work similar to the Live Dismemberment mod, that will allow for the PC to "loose a limb" without it killing you? Would be kinda cool and add to the "realism" I think. Maybe be able to get the limb back by going to a doctor or something, idk.

[vaultbait]

4 hours ago, Martok73 said:

does the same hold true for the male BodyTalk3 body as well?

 

I don't recall, I'd have to test.

 

4 hours ago, Martok73 said:

They don't regrow their heads tho

 

Right, the head is a separate mesh from the body so decapitation is unrelated.

 

4 hours ago, Martok73 said:

Speaking of the PC, are there any mods that work similar to the Live Dismemberment mod, that will allow for the PC to "loose a limb" without it killing you? Would be kinda cool and add to the "realism" I think. Maybe be able to get the limb back by going to a doctor or something, idk.

 

There's an Amputation mod which works by scaling mesh nodes (so works with most arbitrary clothing), but also Kziitd's Fetish Toolset has its own amputated body meshes that can be locked on the player or NPCs limiting movement and interfering with certain activities. KFT can also be an outcome of mods like Violate.

[Martok73]

10 hours ago, vaultbait said:

I don't recall, I'd have to test.

The new updated version of BT3 you told me about in the other thread claims to support full nude dismemberment, so we shall see.

 

10 hours ago, vaultbait said:

Right, the head is a separate mesh from the body so decapitation is unrelated.

That makes sense.

 

10 hours ago, vaultbait said:

There's an Amputation mod which works by scaling mesh nodes (so works with most arbitrary clothing), but also Kziitd's Fetish Toolset has its own amputated body meshes that can be locked on the player or NPCs limiting movement and interfering with certain activities. KFT can also be an outcome of mods like Violate.

Interesting, may look at those, sounds...interesting.... Funny thing, with the Live Dismemberment mod, and the Just Business mod, if you "mark" a target for enslavement, then proceed to blow off a limb, arm, leg, etc., then collar them and make them a slave, they magically regrow their lost limb, which is fucking hilarious. The reason it happens is how the JB mod works to make slaves by cloning the original and then deleting said original. Still funny as shit to watch as it happens damn near instantly.

[Senator Blutarsky]

Is there any plan to make a version of fusion girl for starfield?

 

For fo4 I converted to this since shortly after it came out and never looked back. 

[TheBottomhoodofSteel]

1 hour ago, Senator Blutarsky said:

Is there any plan to make a version of fusion girl for starfield?

 

For fo4 I converted to this since shortly after it came out and never looked back. 

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Eneryem]

Hello.

 

I have a bug with Fusion Girl, see pictures.
The problem suddenly appeared and won't go away!
I have already uninstalled FG and reinstalled it, but the error remains.
I have also uninstalled both Physics Mods OCBPC and Firm CBP for OCBP Outfit, the error remains.

 

What can I do?
I am really desperate. 

[vaultbait]

31 minutes ago, Eneryem said:

Hello.

 

I have a bug with Fusion Girl, see pictures.
The problem suddenly appeared and won't go away!
I have already uninstalled FG and reinstalled it, but the error remains.
I have also uninstalled both Physics Mods OCBPC and Firm CBP for OCBP Outfit, the error remains.

 

What can I do?
I am really desperate. 

 

That looks a lot like what happens when you have some other mod overwriting the human skeleton. Could be something like CBBE Knee Fix, a male body replacer that doesn't directly use the ZeX Skeleton, or for example a gun mod that wants to make funky skeleton-based changes.

[TheBottomhoodofSteel]

On 6/9/2024 at 7:51 PM, Martok73 said:

The new updated version of BT3 you told me about in the other thread claims to support full nude dismemberment, so we shall see.

BT3 is under the polygon limit for the Dismemberment system and has been set up to be dismemberable, so it can dismember while nude. BT has been able to dismember for a long time at this point. 

As VaultBait has said, FG does not support it because FG's body mesh is over the limit. Since there hasn't been enough demand for this compatibility and it would risk breaking every outfit made for FG (Again) there's no plans to give FG Dismemberment support at the moment. 

[MajorWard]

On 4/14/2022 at 9:34 PM, XIss said:

Hello ! Thank you for the good work. However maybe there is a missing outfit or maybe I missed something ? And I can't find this outfit in the Bodyslide

 

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This outfit is apparently the "Fancy plaid suit & tie" or the "Fancy plaid suite & string tie"

I’ve just seen the same thing with the same outfit.  Did you ever find a solution?

[vaultbait]

5 hours ago, MajorWard said:

I’ve just seen the same thing with the same outfit.  Did you ever find a solution?

 

I think some of the DLC outfit replacers may still be a work in progress. I'm not sure there's 100% coverage for them. I haven't checked, but alternative replacers like the Classy Chassy Outfitters series or Ghaan's might have that one (or Lazman's though I'm not sure if it's still available anywhere after the legal trouble he landed in).

[Chickentende]

@dayangvvv

also having the same issue, did you figure out what was causing it?

[maxwellfoto]

how to fix your neck? I've already deleted all the mods, I put fush girls and it appears immediately

[vaultbait]

3 hours ago, maxwellfoto said:

how to fix your neck? I've already deleted all the mods, I put fush girls and it appears immediately

 

You'll have to be more specific about the problem you're experiencing, the only obvious concern in the screenshot looks like the top of the head is missing, but I'm assuming that's just because you zoomed the camera in so closely.

 

If you're saying you have a visible neck seam, that can vary depending on body and face textures as well as lighting. You might consider testing with a face+body texture set that's been tuned to minimize neck seam effects, for example X-Sensuous on Nexus Mods, but ultimately there's no way to entirely eliminate the problem which is why all the vanilla clothing in the game comes up close to the neck area and frequently includes scarves or wraps.

[UsernameTaken666]

wtf?? am I missing something? I'm not quoting previous poster...

[kib_out]

Certainly! If I don’t understand anything about this, then why?

[VilLynne]

Recently, the in-game bodyslide became much thinner than in bodyslide preview, I've had to alter the bodyslide to be much wider to compensate for this.  'Any tips?

[talemann]

The pre-built clothing for Automatron seems to have two files which belongs to Bodytalk's pre-built clothing, or at least BodyTalk will have those two files overwritten. Judging by the naming difference, I think those are the male version of robot armor and the morph file.

 

Meshes\DLC01\Armor\RoboArmor
RoboArmorArmLMedium.nif
RoboArmorArmLMedium.tri

[excenze]

Hello! Anyone knows why this clipping happens? (talking about the horizontal 2 lines)

Seems that it doesnt matter if i put clothes on or skin texture etc. Its always there.

I can t find why

Edited September 28, 2024 by excenze

[OoFOXIIoO]

I need some help with the mod. For some reason the Fusion Girl skin preset or what have you, isn't showing in Bodyslide. Anyone know why this is?

 

[yaboiied]

everyting about the body is working other than the physics i have ocbpc and everything just no physics

[AndarielHalo]

On 7/15/2024 at 1:35 PM, Eneryem said:

Hello.

 

I have a bug with Fusion Girl, see pictures.
The problem suddenly appeared and won't go away!
I have already uninstalled FG and reinstalled it, but the error remains.
I have also uninstalled both Physics Mods OCBPC and Firm CBP for OCBP Outfit, the error remains.

 

What can I do?
I am really desperate. 

 

 

 

I've been having this exact same problem suddenly occurring in my game after nearly 100 hours without issue.  I had to reinstall FG

 

 

 

 

EDIT:  Nevermind me.  I figured out my issue.  I accidentally installed Discrete Female Skeleton during a troubleshooting session and somehow got it to work for a bit before it broke completely

Edited October 23, 2024 by AndarielHalo