ZeX - Fusion Girl

[DemonSlut]

I feel like im just dumb or something. So i need help. I just got back into fallout I went with vortex for my modding this time instead of mo2. And decided to switch from cbbe to fg. I built everything in body slide. Using zeroed sliders because I use looksmenu sliders to see what I want. But while my clothing updates with the sliders. My body just not doing anything and is stuck at default. I made sure I had no other body mods installed. And I have tried rebuilding the nude body multiple times and it still just never takes. Zeroed and non zeroed sliders. Its just not changing in game.  Also when my character wears the heels i build her body changes.. but when i take them off and shes wearing the outfit i built. The outfit stays with my looksmenu slides while my body reverts back to default. 

Edited August 4 by DemonSlut

[Wandering_Mania]

On 8/4/2026 at 5:30 PM, DemonSlut said:

I feel like im just dumb or something. So i need help. I just got back into fallout I went with vortex for my modding this time instead of mo2. And decided to switch from cbbe to fg. I built everything in body slide. Using zeroed sliders because I use looksmenu sliders to see what I want. But while my clothing updates with the sliders. My body just not doing anything and is stuck at default. I made sure I had no other body mods installed. And I have tried rebuilding the nude body multiple times and it still just never takes. Zeroed and non zeroed sliders. Its just not changing in game.  

That sounds like the same problem I am having. Except I've only found a 'half fix'.

It sounds like you have a 'double body' being made when you build your body with body slide. Like so:

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The 'half fix' I found was to remove the 'FemaleBody.nif, FemaleBody.tri and FemaleHands.nif' from the meshes/character/CharacterAssets folder. The physics, and sliders, work, but the textures become all wonky. Like so:

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Anyone know the other half of the fix to this? Or an alternate solution?

[sen4mi]

This sounds like a missing dependency - or maybe vortex refusing to replace a file?

 

But to solve that, I imagine you would have to go over each FG body related file to make sure that the version is deployed is the version that was supposed to be installed.

[Wandering_Mania]

1 hour ago, sen4mi said:

This sounds like a missing dependency - or maybe vortex refusing to replace a file?

 

But to solve that, I imagine you would have to go over each FG body related file to make sure that the version is deployed is the version that was supposed to be installed.

I got all the required files. The specific versions may differ from when it was fist released, but they are all there. And because of version dependency with FG I'm guessing that may be the case. Either that, or Bodyslide is not building a 'FG physics body' with the 'FG - Nude' option anymore because it has gained a few version updates since FG 1.81 came out.

 

Vortex may also be an issue for me however. I HATE vortex. It's far too overly complicated to sort the load order out; And it insists on depending on LOOT, which is as useless as an ass hole on my elbow, or a belly button on my character's hip.

 

I mean I can deal with the lack of physics. My FPS on this laptop is also not that great (I get from 30 - 60 with a mostly steady 45), so they might not 'work as intended' anyway. But it would be nice to know what's actually going on.

 

Thanks for the attempted help anyway. I just don't think I can ever get FG to work fully, at least not on this POS "gaming laptop" that has almost no cooling ability. Maybe after I get my main rig working again, after I can replace it's AIO CPU water cooler. Anyway thanks again.

[sen4mi]

On 8/15/2026 at 2:21 PM, Wandering_Mania said:

And it insists on depending on LOOT, which is as useless as an ass hole on my elbow, or a belly button on my character's hip.

 

Er... if you have not used LOOT to sort your load order, that could cause any of a variety of problems.

 

(If your objection is that LOOT does not respect some mod order requirements, note that you can fix how it sorts your mods.)

[Wandering_Mania]

2 hours ago, sen4mi said:

 

Er... if you have not used LOOT to sort your load order, that could cause any of a variety of problems.

 

(If your objection is that LOOT does not respect some mod order requirements, note that you can fix how it sorts your mods.)

Well, loot puts Nuka Ride at the top, when it should be at the very bottom. I know how to sort load orders very well. Been doing it since Fallout 3 and Oblivion. But loot... Loot only sorts things based on 'reported mods'; And far too many mods go unreported. So it's basically worthless.

 

But a little bit of an update:

I noticed that the lower half physics work just fine. Butt bounce, 'opening' collisions and all that. It's just the top breast physics that build as static. It's the damnedest thing.

[outout777]

18 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said:

Well, loot puts Nuka Ride at the top, when it should be at the very bottom. I know how to sort load orders very well. Been doing it since Fallout 3 and Oblivion. But loot... Loot only sorts things based on 'reported mods'; And far too many mods go unreported. So it's basically worthless.

 

But a little bit of an update:

I noticed that the lower half physics work just fine. Butt bounce, 'opening' collisions and all that. It's just the top breast physics that build as static. It's the damnedest thing.

Has the physics mod been overwritten?

[outout777]

On 8/5/2026 at 8:30 AM, DemonSlut said:

I feel like im just dumb or something. So i need help. I just got back into fallout I went with vortex for my modding this time instead of mo2. And decided to switch from cbbe to fg. I built everything in body slide. Using zeroed sliders because I use looksmenu sliders to see what I want. But while my clothing updates with the sliders. My body just not doing anything and is stuck at default. I made sure I had no other body mods installed. And I have tried rebuilding the nude body multiple times and it still just never takes. Zeroed and non zeroed sliders. Its just not changing in game.  Also when my character wears the heels i build her body changes.. but when i take them off and shes wearing the outfit i built. The outfit stays with my looksmenu slides while my body reverts back to default. 

I think you've forgotten to build body.

[Wandering_Mania]

2 hours ago, outout777 said:

Has the physics mod been overwritten?

Nope. I even reinstalled it with vortex to make sure. But it always ends up the same way as those two pictures I posted above.

If I remove the body mesh, it's all working, but the skin is all out of whack.

If I don't remove the mesh, only the lower body physics work, and the upper body is static.

So yeah, it's obviously working, as the lower body works fine. Oh and the mod controlled top morphs work fine as well. But the top physics, not a single bit of movement.

 

I don't know if the fact that I did a downgrade on my game version to pre-NG matters. But yeah, I am running 1.10.163. Mostly due to the fact that a lot of mods I like to use, never got upgraded to work with the NG+ upgrades.

[Holylokki]

7 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said:

If I remove the body mesh, it's all working, but the skin is all out of whack.

You should look for mods that overwrite FG files (by default, none).
And you should look for entries in FusionGirl.esp that are overridden by other mods (by default, none).

[Wandering_Mania]

4 hours ago, Holylokki said:

You should look for mods that overwrite FG files (by default, none).
And you should look for entries in FusionGirl.esp that are overridden by other mods (by default, none).

As I've already said; Nothing is overwriting it; And I reinstalled the whole package (FG and all dependencies) multiple times to make sure of that. It all ends the same way.

Static top body, with working mod controlled morphs.

Physics enabled lower body.

[JB.]

8 minutes ago, Wandering_Mania said:

As I've already said; Nothing is overwriting it; And I reinstalled the whole package (FG and all dependencies) multiple times to make sure of that. It all ends the same way.

Static top body, with working mod controlled morphs.

Physics enabled lower body.

 

I use this one no prob. 

Old gen.

Fusion Girl. 

Zex Skeleton.  

 

 

ps: You probably need to use the true downgrader, not the other one that only patches a couple of files.

Edited August 18 by JB.

[Wandering_Mania]

4 minutes ago, JB. said:

 

I use this one no prob. 

Old gen.

Fusion Girl. 

Zex Skeleton.  

It's worth a shot. Better than seeing a jiggle butt, and static chest that gives me a massive case of OCD, because it's only half working.

[deff.]

46 minutes ago, Wandering_Mania said:

As I've already said; Nothing is overwriting it; And I reinstalled the whole package (FG and all dependencies) multiple times to make sure of that. It all ends the same way.

Static top body, with working mod controlled morphs.

Physics enabled lower body.

 

This is weird. I have  downgraded game (with this mod). 

Using Fusion Girl + 8k FSM Body textures. 

Using physics like in photo (using OCBP and OCBPC FO4 - FPS Fix with MCM Menu because my pc cannot handle stable 60fps)

 

Spoiler

 

My character have excellent jiggle. Never had any issues with physics, except that period, when I played without physics. 

[Wandering_Mania]

1 hour ago, JB. said:

 

I use this one no prob. 

Old gen.

Fusion Girl. 

Zex Skeleton.  

Still the same.

Static chest, with working morphs. Physics enabled lower body.

Ahh well. 

 

1 hour ago, JB. said:

ps: You probably need to use the true downgrader, not the other one that only patches a couple of files.

And yup, that's the one I used.

 

35 minutes ago, deff. said:

 

This is weird. I have  downgraded game (with this mod). 

Using Fusion Girl + 8k FSM Body textures. 

Using physics like in photo (using OCBP and OCBPC FO4 - FPS Fix with MCM Menu because my pc cannot handle stable 60fps)

 

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My character have excellent jiggle. Never had any issues with physics, except that period, when I played without physics. 

I don't have the FPS fix. But all the rest looks just like that. Same load order, same file versions, and all that.

 

I have no clue what could be causing this. It's like a bug, that shouldn't even be possible TO happen, yet it IS happening.

I mean if the lower works just fine, the upper should follow suit; But it's like Bodyslide is building 2 bodies, and pasting them together.

I don't know. I just don't know.

[deff.]

45 minutes ago, Wandering_Mania said:

I mean if the lower works just fine, the upper should follow suit; But it's like Bodyslide is building 2 bodies, and pasting them together.

 

And what's happening if you are removing/disabling MTM preset? Same?

[Wandering_Mania]

14 minutes ago, deff. said:

And what's happening if you are removing/disabling MTM preset? Same?

Yup, same thing. No change in upper, or lower.

Upper static w/ working morphs, lower works just fine, physics, and morphs.

[JB.]

34 minutes ago, Wandering_Mania said:

Yup, same thing. No change in upper, or lower.

Upper static w/ working morphs, lower works just fine, physics, and morphs.

OMG you're right, I tried that with Slavers and my Nora's breasts don't move. However, it did work on my Nuka Ride profile, wtf. 

 

I uninstalled Jiggle.

I installed OCBPC 0.3 Xex4. Your files should load after Fusion Girl.

 

Her breasts are already jiggling. 😎

Edited August 18 by JB.

[Wandering_Mania]

16 minutes ago, JB. said:

OMG you're right, I tried that with Slavers and my Nora's breasts don't move. However, it did work on my Nuka Ride profile, wtf. 

Yeah, it is the weirdest bug. But at least someone can see what I'm seeing. It looks so bizarre, hence why it was giving me a massive case of OCD. 

 

18 minutes ago, JB. said:

I uninstalled Jiggle.

I installed OCBPC 0.3 Xex4. Your files should load after Fusion Girl.

I'll try it. Fingers crossed.

[JB.]

1 minute ago, Wandering_Mania said:

Yeah, it is the weirdest bug. But at least someone can see what I'm seeing. It looks so bizarre, hence why it was giving me a massive case of OCD. 

 

I'll try it. Fingers crossed.

I came to tell you that the physics are fine, but at some point Nora's butt started to take on a life of its own and I had a CTD after a few secs. I'm going to look for another alternative. 😵‍💫

[Wandering_Mania]

27 minutes ago, JB. said:

I came to tell you that the physics are fine, but at some point Nora's butt started to take on a life of its own and I had a CTD after a few secs. I'm going to look for another alternative. 😵‍💫

Well, I actually was already using that OCBPC 0.3 Xex4.

But after I bumped FG to the top, and did a reinstall of it. Still the same. No top movement, except morphs, and lower is fine.

But I've never had her butt go full 'ragdoll' before, or after, or really ever. So I'm not even sure how you made that happen.

[dav42]

1 hour ago, JB. said:

I came to tell you that the physics are fine, but at some point Nora's butt started to take on a life of its own and I had a CTD after a few secs. I'm going to look for another alternative. 😵‍💫

 

There is this one, the only thing is the movements are a little "jelly".  I didn't have time or patience to play with the physics parameters to fine tune it, just waiting for SMP to call it a day.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/105699

[deff.]

7 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said:

Yup, same thing. No change in upper, or lower.

Upper static w/ working morphs, lower works just fine, physics, and morphs.

 

I don't know what to even suggest, because this bug I see first time....

[Wandering_Mania]

2 hours ago, deff. said:

I don't know what to even suggest, because this bug I see first time....

Yeah, it's driving me mad as well.

Theoretically it shouldn't even be possible.

It works, or it doesn't. It's on, or it's off. It's a 1, or a 0.

But this... This is a 2; AND THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS 2! (couldn't resist the binary code joke)

 

Still, when the top half responds to the morphs, but doesn't have physics, and the lower half has both. How is that even possible?

It contradicts itself. It's an oxymoronic bug.

The physics work, but they don't work. It makes no sense.

[sen4mi]

On 8/17/2026 at 4:03 AM, Wandering_Mania said:

Well, loot puts Nuka Ride at the top, when it should be at the very bottom. I know how to sort load orders very well. Been doing it since Fallout 3 and Oblivion. But loot... Loot only sorts things based on 'reported mods'; And far too many mods go unreported. So it's basically worthless.

 

But a little bit of an update:

I noticed that the lower half physics work just fine. Butt bounce, 'opening' collisions and all that. It's just the top breast physics that build as static. It's the damnedest thing.

 

The point of using LOOT is not that you "don't know how to sort load orders" - it's so that you can address issues once and not have to keep coming back to that issue again and again.

 

If you right click on a plugin and select "Edit metadata" from the popup menu, then go to the "Load After" tab, you can select another plugin file that goes to a lower priority, each time you click the "Add a new row" button.

 

You're right that the master list contains mostly only old, well-known conflicts. But it's not limited to only metadata handed down from on high.

 

This might not solve your problem - you have to also worry about file conflicts and broken and/or obsolete mods, damaged files and/or missing dependencies. But it can sometimes catch little things which would otherwise go unnoticed for far too long.

 

That said... from your description, I guess I'd mostly worry about damaged files and/or having the wrong kind of configuration file for the physics. 

Edited 21 hours ago by sen4mi