nuka world AAF Nuka Ride: A Porn Studio Mod

[ckworth]

5 hours ago, Umbopo65 said:

I know there was some dire warning about mentioning this, I think, because I can't find it now but here goes.  I have updated Nuka ride to latest version and down loaded Nuka Ride Bodyslide.  Everything, including all clothing, is functioning fine; until we get to Dolled up and the new outfits added there (so far Bubblegum and Primadonna) are rendering the body invisible, leaving only head, hands and feet as well as the overbosses brands floating in mid air or should I say, derrière.  I have searched my computer and these outfits files have not been down loaded anywhere.  Now, I have had a search to see if this has been covered and I haven't seen anything.  Is there anywhere I can find these files and down load them?

Have you built those outfits on Bodyslide? If they aren't showing up on Bodyslide then maybe try redownloading the Bodyslide files and trying again. If you are using Fusion Girl make sure to use the Bodyslide files by Axary. Can't really think of anything else...

[kcs27]

Having a weird issue where Music has de-spawned after completing The Special Girls, where you recruit the vault girls for the club, she wasn't in the tattoo parlor after the mission and when taking Lyons for a walk she doesn't spawn in near her scooter when the quest says to let Lyons meet her, is her ID available so I can force spawn her?

[Operand]

Playing through the new version (didn't finish it yet), can say that I have the feeling the plot went off rails somewhere - can't pinpoint where, though. The extremities are just keep cranking up to 11 (or 111?) and it just makes little sense that PC puts up with that - from her PoV it's not so much of a protection anymore when one wrong word and she ends up on the verge of death. And if in earlier stages of NR it all sort of .. made sense - because the "tough rough stuff" was yet not so extreme and PC just didn't have much choice, now the balance is completely off.

 

In the newer NR development - she sort of.. has other options? Out of curiosity I checked MCM and discovered that I never changed the caps rewards,so they stay all at the possible minimum. And even with that just from playing through the quests and not AV-shooting any extra for caps, she gets to 3k of it or more by the time she gets to DC with Adolf. So there's nothing preventing her from say buying a Home Plate with plenty of caps still left. And if she made such a plan, she'd probably AV-shoot a bit more for money and so go there with much heftier sum and then either retire or open up her "services" shop at Home Plate.

 

And why "DC with Adolf" is important? Because - first, DC guards are promising her exactly what OB and his savages are supposed to provide her in NW now that she's famous and DC guards are all heads over heels for her, and - second, because after returning from there she should finally realize that OB and raiders just don't care about her, taunting her over the fact that some supernatural creep stalks her. OB is even worse in his threats to whip her just for mentioning that creep. And NW attitude after Poodle's defeat where nobody believes her doesn't help either. Either way "so much for protection" - she could just go to DC for it now and at least being treated with decency while the guards protect her. And maybe have better luck finding someone (like Nick Valentine) who'd listen to her about Doberman.

 

Posting this to hopefully point that the extreme stuff at the later stages when PC is much better established must have much stronger reasoning and justification. It doesn't make much sense even for bimbo PC - because even an animal understands where it's hot and where it hurts and it doesn't go there. Her list of alpha-male masters just grows and grows (Gage, Maxson, etc) - and she has to walk on eggshells around each and every of them or else risk punishment. Again, the juice isn't worth the squeeze for her after some time in NW.

 

And punishments also become heavier and heavier. Heck, a whipping that leaves her leg(s) and/or arm(s) broken? Idk, the deal just doesn't work out anymore if she has to fear those who claim to "protect" her way more. Besides, it just doesn't make sense even for cold and calculating OB - assuming no feelings are involved - which looks to be the case on OB's part. Breaking top AV actress' leg would mean she won't be able to film, that would hurt the studio and profits. It's just really bad for business. Kali scenes were eye-opening on that stuff if the infamous domina who literally castrated a guy realized she knows nothing after seeing what PC goes through on a daily basis.

 

So, idk. The further it goes, the further it deviates from making sense where PC is a reasonable human being - or at least a one that feels fear, pain and wants to live a decent life. At later stages she's way past the point where she can actually have it and leave NW for good. It'd be actually cool to have a quest where PC inadvertently "punishes" OB - i.e. he goes with his "punishment" as usual, does it too much, PC ends up bedridden for several months or so and the studio goes to a complete halt or worse, so OB loses money on that plus the rumors spread about his misconduct and fans start to turn away. Or stuff like that.

 

Right now whatever OB or others do to PC is made so that there are sort of.. no consequences for them or PC. Yeah, whatever, another brand for a silly outfit? Sure. 3 seconds of sound and she walks out with just "another stripe on a tiger" like it's nothing. OB decides to break her leg because he feels like educating her? Yeah, go for it man, it's not like she'll feel anything after 5 minutes. OB wants some gunners to gang on her because his lackey didn't come up with a better plan? Yeah, whatever, no sweat. PC just doesn't feel like a living being anymore and more and more like a mindless drone.

 

PC has options later down the line. And way safer, cozier and decent ones than NW with OB and his goons. The only reason she would continue imo is .. because the player wants to see what's in the mod The gratitude to OB for saving her at Andrew's Station would evaporate the minute he requested her to film the same stuff. And the whole ordeal there happened because of OB's incompetence in the first place.

Edited May 13, 2023 by Operand

[Umbopo65]

1 hour ago, ckworth said:

Have you built those outfits on Bodyslide? If they aren't showing up on Bodyslide then maybe try redownloading the Bodyslide files and trying again. If you are using Fusion Girl make sure to use the Bodyslide files by Axary. Can't really think of anything else...

Hey thanks for the reply.  If I could find them I would certainly try, unfortunately I have no idea what mod supplies these outfits but I cannot find them in my computer, so I've missed something.

[Beerbatty]

Is it okay to edit the bodies of NPCs

Mags, the sister, and 1 other female all seem to have defaulted to exceptionally rail-thin, and Mag's clothes appear to clip on her. 

If it is okay to edit them, what would be the "close-to-safest" way to do it?

[JB.]

1 hour ago, kcs27 said:

Having a weird issue where Music has de-spawned after completing The Special Girls, where you recruit the vault girls for the club, she wasn't in the tattoo parlor after the mission and when taking Lyons for a walk she doesn't spawn in near her scooter when the quest says to let Lyons meet her, is her ID available so I can force spawn her?

 

 

SetStage _NukaRide_Music 80

 

Coincidentally, that stage enable her.

 

If she's not in her store, sit around and wait a couple of hours. 

 

She can't be dead because in her tattoo store quest she is listed as "Essential", so something disabled her. 

 

Do you remember if you skipped any quest with the cheat menu? Maybe I overlooked something and that's my first suspicion. 

[JB.]

4 hours ago, Ttrrgtrgbh said:

Can i use this on Xbox

 

 

It cannot. Basically, this mods depends on many mods that are not available on Xbox. 

8 hours ago, Umbopo65 said:

I know there was some dire warning about mentioning this, I think, because I can't find it now but here goes.  I have updated Nuka ride to latest version and down loaded Nuka Ride Bodyslide.  Everything, including all clothing, is functioning fine; until we get to Dolled up and the new outfits added there (so far Bubblegum and Primadonna) are rendering the body invisible, leaving only head, hands and feet as well as the overbosses brands floating in mid air or should I say, derrière.  I have searched my computer and these outfits files have not been down loaded anywhere.  Now, I have had a search to see if this has been covered and I haven't seen anything.  Is there anywhere I can find these files and down load them?

I am 100% sure you forgot to download the new Nuka Ride 6 bodyslides files. You have the old ones. Double check that.

 

36 minutes ago, Beerbatty said:

Is it okay to edit the bodies of NPCs

Mags, the sister, and 1 other female all seem to have defaulted to exceptionally rail-thin, and Mag's clothes appear to clip on her. 

If it is okay to edit them, what would be the "close-to-safest" way to do it?

100% safe.

 

Before, when I started modding, I was afraid that a simple edit would change something in the NPC and my mod would stop detecting it. 

 

Well, basically, you can do whatever you want. Even change the sex of the NPCs in this mod -although some AAF scenes will fail-. 

 

Simply: 

Don't kill them
Don't disable them

Otherwise, you can even change them to Super Mutants, their ID won't change. 

 

 

17 hours ago, neverporn said:

Still, you rascal JB, here I was Nuka Ride and the rest of the wasteland is not interesting at all. It's like a good show, when you watch a season and wait for the next one, waiting for "What's next..."  I remember it was like that with Game of Thrones. Written from a desperate attempt to entertain myself in the wastelands, sorry and good luck, as well as creative inspiration and strength in development !

 

Thank you ! ?

[JB.]

@Operand Thank you! I always have this feeling that this mod could have easily ended after winning "Becoming a Porn Star". That's it. You made money. You met cool people and horrible people. You can go find your kid/have an adventure in the wasteland now that you pretty much know where you stand with the world.

 

What follows is hard to justify. Why is she still honoring her contract of obeying the Overboss and suffering all sorts of vicissitudes? At some point it gets heavy if the protagonist decides to become his slave. 

 

I justify it on the grounds that the girl really has no chance of surviving out there, and she already has too many comforts in Nuka World to go to Diamond City and buy a house that looks like something out of a favela. She settled into porn. Settled into the raider world. She rediscovered herself as a submissive. There are some justifications that might work. 

 

But, like you said, we all know the answer: It's because there's nothing else to do. You can either grab a gun and go to the wasteland to repeat the vanilla adventure, or go on with this one. 

 

I've never perceived the punishment thing the way you have. Whipping until breaking bones sounds horrible, yeah. But this whole broken bones thing in Fallout is so light. It heals with a stimpak even in survival mode (or sleeping!) so I never gave it much thought because it doesn't have the same consequences as in real life. Hmm, it makes more sense to put an option in the MCM to take out damage in whipping sessions. 

I'm going to steal that thing you wrote about Andrew Station. It was also the Overboss's fault. That's something the protagonist would have to complain to him about in the next discussion. 

 

In future quests, the protagonist must accompany/encourage the Overboss in his fights in the Arena. There's a whole pre-battle, from cleaning his Servo to choosing his battle weapon, which could very well serve as what you say. Small revenge scores. 

[Umbopo65]

3 hours ago, ckworth said:

Have you built those outfits on Bodyslide? If they aren't showing up on Bodyslide then maybe try redownloading the Bodyslide files and trying again. If you are using Fusion Girl make sure to use the Bodyslide files by Axary. Can't really think of anything else...

 

1 hour ago, Umbopo65 said:

Hey thanks for the reply.  If I could find them I would certainly try, unfortunately I have no idea what mod supplies these outfits but I cannot find them in my computer, so I've missed something.

Thanks again, I redownloaded Nuka Ride Boddyslide and there they were, I opened up and my body looked like I was Dolly Parton after eating a dolly Parton, it was then I realised I had also forgotten to build them in Bodyslide.  Thanks for the reminder.  Cheers

 

[osculim]

1 hour ago, JB. said:

@Operand Thank you! I always have this feeling that this mod could have easily ended after winning "Becoming a Porn Star". That's it. You made money. You met cool people and horrible people. You can go find your kid/have an adventure in the wasteland now that you pretty much know where you stand with the world.

 

What follows is hard to justify. Why is she still honoring her contract of obeying the Overboss and suffering all sorts of vicissitudes? At some point it gets heavy if the protagonist decides to become his slave. 

 

I justify it on the grounds that the girl really has no chance of surviving out there, and she already has too many comforts in Nuka World to go to Diamond City and buy a house that looks like something out of a favela. She settled into porn. Settled into the raider world. She rediscovered herself as a submissive. There are some justifications that might work. 

 

But, like you said, we all know the answer: It's because there's nothing else to do. You can either grab a gun and go to the wasteland to repeat the vanilla adventure, or go on with this one. 

 

I've never perceived the punishment thing the way you have. Whipping until breaking bones sounds horrible, yeah. But this whole broken bones thing in Fallout is so light. It heals with a stimpak even in survival mode (or sleeping!) so I never gave it much thought because it doesn't have the same consequences as in real life. Hmm, it makes more sense to put an option in the MCM to take out damage in whipping sessions. 

I'm going to steal that thing you wrote about Andrew Station. It was also the Overboss's fault. That's something the protagonist would have to complain to him about in the next discussion. 

 

In future quests, the protagonist must accompany/encourage the Overboss in his fights in the Arena. There's a whole pre-battle, from cleaning his Servo to choosing his battle weapon, which could very well serve as what you say. Small revenge scores. 

I think the problem we have is most of us look at the character from a real life perspective. When I play I try to live my character just coming out of a vault into a wasteland you know nothing about would be terrifying to be honest for anyone. With all my latest playthroughs I went through comonwealth slavers first and after something like that anyone would be husk of their former selves so going to nuka world and joining the overboss makes a lot of sense even with what he puts you trough. I also play with attributes installed and it makes sense that if you are a broken mess you will put up with that stuff until much later after you build yourself up again. I think you do it pretty well showing that the player does become a stronger person. Starting to stand up for herself. Stop taking peoples crap. Like with my favorite quest head for bussiness where you flatout tell everyone to go F themselves and you not going to take shit that day during that meeting. I could be wrong here since its your mod but I do think the overboss cares about you more than he is trying to acting like. It comes through a few times in the later quests. And me as a character can see that. He just don't want to show it. Because of the whole harlow thing he talks about it during the walk to the theater. Now I have to admit the "attitude adjustment" quest came as a bit of a shock. It was a bit harsh with the whole exploding collar thing. That didn't really bother me too much tho it could just be that the overboss is just trying to scare you a little. What bother me the most was all the people coming to the market especially music. She is supposed to be your friend and the fact that she never step in and talk to her dad when he hurts you is a bit bothersome even tho you stand up for her countless times. I would like to see the overboss warm up to his a girl a bit later tho. Anyway just some thoughts.

[Evolutionmonkey]

Which files from the mega file do I need to install? Is it just the 6.2 and the bodyslide files?

[H Bof]

I was thinking about how JB mentioned a bit ago that they were considering adding something along the lines of Nora not wanting to visit OB without doing her nails first later on in the bimbo path, and it gave me an idea. If this does turn out to be the case I think it would be a nice touch if Nora could ask OB things like "do you like my hair?" "do you like my nails?" "do you like my outfit" etc. and OB could respond with a random type of hairstyle such as "I think you would look good with a ponytail, long hair, short hair, bangs, etc." or a random color from however the painted nails would be done, or list/add an outfit from earlier in the mod he would like to see her wear. Nora could then go to the bimboficator or a mirror to make the changes.

 

I think it would be a simple way to make the bimboficator (or whatever it will be called in a future update) get used more than once or twice for hair dye and tanning. I don't think it would really need any script work or punishment if Nora doesn't change anything but would be a simple RP element to continue to please OB and add semi-repeatable changes without anything getting drastic. But as always, just an idea I thought I'd throw out there and it's totally up to JB if they wanna add it.

Edited May 14, 2023 by H Bof

[osculim]

1 hour ago, H Bof said:

I was thinking about how JB mentioned a bit ago that they were considering adding something along the lines of Nora not wanting to visit OB without doing her nails first later on in the bimbo path, and it gave me an idea. If this does turn out to be the case I think it would be a nice touch if Nora could ask OB things like "do you like my hair?" "do you like my nails?" "do you like my outfit" etc. and OB could respond with a random type of hairstyle such as "I think you would look good with a ponytail, long hair, short hair, bangs, etc." or a random color from however the painted nails would be done, or list/add an outfit from earlier in the mod he would like to see her wear. Nora could then go to the bimboficator or a mirror to make the changes.

 

I think it would be a simple way to make the bimboficator (or whatever it will be called in a future update) get used more than once or twice for hair dye and tanning. I don't think it would really need any script work or punishment if Nora doesn't change anything but would be a simple RP element to continue to please OB and add semi-repeatable changes without anything getting drastic. But as always, just an idea I thought I'd throw out there and it's totally up to JB if they wanna add it.

This kinda stuff should always be players choice. You are not a dumb mindless bimbo. From a characters perspective I would say later stages in the game you either grown close to the overboss and become his woman and embrace it and try and dress and look good for him the way he likes or you are just going through the notions to get away from it all.  This is where I see it going. I could be completely wrong tho. Only JB will know. But yeah I like the Idea of him just casually commenting on your looks. Maby giving you some encouragement like a self esteem point or loosing one. That kinda thing is already implemented in other scenarios

[H Bof]

13 minutes ago, osculim said:

This kinda stuff should always be players choice. You are not a dumb mindless bimbo. From a characters perspective I would say later stages in the game you either grown close to the overboss and become his woman and embrace it and try and dress and look good for him the way he likes or you are just going through the notions to get away from it all.  This is where I see it going. I could be completely wrong tho. Only JB will know. But yeah I like the Idea of him just casually commenting on your looks. Maby giving you some encouragement like a self esteem point or loosing one. That kinda thing is already implemented in other scenarios

Yeah I think that'd actually be a great idea to add a confidence boost if the player does the changes, and then they always still have the option to decline if they want and they just wouldn't get a buff.

[krighaur]

10 hours ago, JB. said:

@Operand Thank you! I always have this feeling that this mod could have easily ended after winning "Becoming a Porn Star". That's it. You made money. You met cool people and horrible people. You can go find your kid/have an adventure in the wasteland now that you pretty much know where you stand with the world.

 

What follows is hard to justify. Why is she still honoring her contract of obeying the Overboss and suffering all sorts of vicissitudes? At some point it gets heavy if the protagonist decides to become his slave. 

 

I justify it on the grounds that the girl really has no chance of surviving out there, and she already has too many comforts in Nuka World to go to Diamond City and buy a house that looks like something out of a favela. She settled into porn. Settled into the raider world. She rediscovered herself as a submissive. There are some justifications that might work. 

 

But, like you said, we all know the answer: It's because there's nothing else to do. You can either grab a gun and go to the wasteland to repeat the vanilla adventure, or go on with this one. 

 

I've never perceived the punishment thing the way you have. Whipping until breaking bones sounds horrible, yeah. But this whole broken bones thing in Fallout is so light. It heals with a stimpak even in survival mode (or sleeping!) so I never gave it much thought because it doesn't have the same consequences as in real life. Hmm, it makes more sense to put an option in the MCM to take out damage in whipping sessions. 

I'm going to steal that thing you wrote about Andrew Station. It was also the Overboss's fault. That's something the protagonist would have to complain to him about in the next discussion. 

 

In future quests, the protagonist must accompany/encourage the Overboss in his fights in the Arena. There's a whole pre-battle, from cleaning his Servo to choosing his battle weapon, which could very well serve as what you say. Small revenge scores. 

I mostly agree with the OP and seeing you are open minded about suggestion, here is mine:

 

I won't speak about the path where the player accept the bimboification, my post is about those who think there is a moment in the mod when staying with the Ob is too much sacrifice. Where is the protection when the harm comes from the protector ? At the beginning it's plausible that a non-combattant woman understand that her best hope to survive is to accept the "small" punishment from the OB, but when he puts a nuclear reactor in your ass, chain you and let you be beaten and abused, then let put you in a leash with a dog (clearly showing you where you stand : under him, under his mans, and worst under the dog) a not bimbo would seriously reconsider her options. worst, all characters in which she had some confidence, either ignore the pain in which she is (sister), or mock her (music). So, if you don't play a dumb, brainless bimbo, at this moment (and this could happens sooner as the OP explained) you can't stay with OB .... and you have many occasions, and the gold needed to do so.

 

What would be cool, would be an option to flee. No need for elaborated scripts or scenes, just either a "thinking" like 'it's too much, this psychopath will kill me, I need to flee', or preferably a dialog with sister saying 'sis, this man is too dangerous, he will kil you one day, we need to flee'. This would be the end of the mod for those players, they would not see what comes next, but it would be better than leaving the mod at this point like I did.

[JB.]

8 hours ago, osculim said:

I think the problem we have is most of us look at the character from a real life perspective. When I play I try to live my character just coming out of a vault into a wasteland you know nothing about would be terrifying to be honest for anyone. With all my latest playthroughs I went through comonwealth slavers first and after something like that anyone would be husk of their former selves so going to nuka world and joining the overboss makes a lot of sense even with what he puts you trough. I also play with attributes installed and it makes sense that if you are a broken mess you will put up with that stuff until much later after you build yourself up again. I think you do it pretty well showing that the player does become a stronger person. Starting to stand up for herself. Stop taking peoples crap. Like with my favorite quest head for bussiness where you flatout tell everyone to go F themselves and you not going to take shit that day during that meeting. I could be wrong here since its your mod but I do think the overboss cares about you more than he is trying to acting like. It comes through a few times in the later quests. And me as a character can see that. He just don't want to show it. Because of the whole harlow thing he talks about it during the walk to the theater. Now I have to admit the "attitude adjustment" quest came as a bit of a shock. It was a bit harsh with the whole exploding collar thing. That didn't really bother me too much tho it could just be that the overboss is just trying to scare you a little. What bother me the most was all the people coming to the market especially music. She is supposed to be your friend and the fact that she never step in and talk to her dad when he hurts you is a bit bothersome even tho you stand up for her countless times. I would like to see the overboss warm up to his a girl a bit later tho. Anyway just some thoughts.

The explosive collar was a gameplay decision. 

 

It's basically like this: 

 

The punishment is severe. 

 

Many players, if punished, will not want to do the punishment once it starts and see what it is about.

 

When it comes to following the OB and Gage, many will want to stop following them and try to continue another quest by force (going to the studio, going to the Commonwealth, etc.), which would generate a lot of new bugs, because the OB would be in the market waiting for you to arrive.

 

So I added the electric collar as a means of forcing the player to follow the OB. 

 

The OB's daughter is present on two occasions where her father punishes the protagonist, and on both occasions she is *smiling*. She has dialogue where she says she doesn't want to intercede in public because it would damage her father's authority, so it's not like she can do much either. 

 

But I have always thought that she has lived there all her life and she sees some things as "normal" when other people would be appalled by them. Like when she says her father killed her first boyfriend and she doesn't exactly say it with a sorry face. 

 

[JB.]

37 minutes ago, krighaur said:

I mostly agree with the OP and seeing you are open minded about suggestion, here is mine:

 

I won't speak about the path where the player accept the bimboification, my post is about those who think there is a moment in the mod when staying with the Ob is too much sacrifice. Where is the protection when the harm comes from the protector ? At the beginning it's plausible that a non-combattant woman understand that her best hope to survive is to accept the "small" punishment from the OB, but when he puts a nuclear reactor in your ass, chain you and let you be beaten and abused, then let put you in a leash with a dog (clearly showing you where you stand : under him, under his mans, and worst under the dog) a not bimbo would seriously reconsider her options. worst, all characters in which she had some confidence, either ignore the pain in which she is (sister), or mock her (music). So, if you don't play a dumb, brainless bimbo, at this moment (and this could happens sooner as the OP explained) you can't stay with OB .... and you have many occasions, and the gold needed to do so.

 

What would be cool, would be an option to flee. No need for elaborated scripts or scenes, just either a "thinking" like 'it's too much, this psychopath will kill me, I need to flee', or preferably a dialog with sister saying 'sis, this man is too dangerous, he will kil you one day, we need to flee'. This would be the end of the mod for those players, they would not see what comes next, but it would be better than leaving the mod at this point like I did.

 

 

An option to run away would be interesting. But would it really be used by the player? At that point the player reached more than twenty hours played and having volunteered to be the slave of the Overboss. 

 

You're basically ending the adventure. And usually one doesn't invest many hours only to give it all up at the end, not knowing how the story will continue (if someone doesn't care about the story he could have quit the mod long ago). 

 

My idea is simply that the protagonist continues to evolve until she goes up to Overbitch, where she will have more authority. And respect from the OB. I even have in mind a quest where the Overboss will offer you to capture and enslave Geneva, who I think is the person who humiliated the protagonist the most, as a coronation gift. 

 

Having already programmed the whole Overboss battle in the arena, I thought it would be great if the protagonist also fought here, against other women, and dressed in Overbitch's outfit. But then I think that technically she is an actress and as such I don't think anyone would allow her to expose herself to a fight. 

But as Overbitch, she could get that. 

[JB.]

7 hours ago, Evolutionmonkey said:

Which files from the mega file do I need to install? Is it just the 6.2 and the bodyslide files?

That's the basics, yes. 
You can add the voices to that combo. It doesn't require anything extra. 

[kcs27]

Spoiler

 

Haven't used the cheat menu to skip any stages as of now.

So I found her stuck in cappy's treehouse, I had done the go with music option the first time I walked Lyon's. Dialogue still worked so asked her to do the finger nails, traveled back to the her parlor and sitting in the chair made her teleport back, afterwards she assumed her normal position behind the counter. Laid this out in detail in case someone has the same thing happen.

Edited May 14, 2023 by kcs27

[krighaur]

45 minutes ago, JB. said:

 

 

An option to run away would be interesting. But would it really be used by the player? At that point the player reached more than twenty hours played and having volunteered to be the slave of the Overboss. 

 

You're basically ending the adventure. And usually one doesn't invest many hours only to give it all up at the end, not knowing how the story will continue (if someone doesn't care about the story he could have quit the mod long ago). 

 

My idea is simply that the protagonist continues to evolve until she goes up to Overbitch, where she will have more authority. And respect from the OB. I even have in mind a quest where the Overboss will offer you to capture and enslave Geneva, who I think is the person who humiliated the protagonist the most, as a coronation gift. 

 

Having already programmed the whole Overboss battle in the arena, I thought it would be great if the protagonist also fought here, against other women, and dressed in Overbitch's outfit. But then I think that technically she is an actress and as such I don't think anyone would allow her to expose herself to a fight. 

But as Overbitch, she could get that. 

I know that the rebellious path was not intended at start, but it's here now, and if you play this path you come to the "attitude adjustement". For me the breaking point is before that, it's the profanation of the wedding ring. At this point either for some RP reasons I don't know and don't judge, you accept to be more and more degraded, or you say "stop, I will only be killed if I stay".

 

Who would play the escape and stop the mod, I don't know. Personnaly I stopped to play at that point and RPed in my head that my PC escaped. Even if stimpack do wonder, that man put a fusion reactor in your ass .... there must be some permanent damages after that, and like I said, the profanation of the wedding ring is the point where in real life most people would prefer to die instead of continuing with the OB.

Edited May 14, 2023 by krighaur

[osculim]

1 hour ago, JB. said:

The explosive collar was a gameplay decision. 

 

It's basically like this: 

 

The punishment is severe. 

 

Many players, if punished, will not want to do the punishment once it starts and see what it is about.

 

When it comes to following the OB and Gage, many will want to stop following them and try to continue another quest by force (going to the studio, going to the Commonwealth, etc.), which would generate a lot of new bugs, because the OB would be in the market waiting for you to arrive.

 

So I added the electric collar as a means of forcing the player to follow the OB. 

 

The OB's daughter is present on two occasions where her father punishes the protagonist, and on both occasions she is *smiling*. She has dialogue where she says she doesn't want to intercede in public because it would damage her father's authority, so it's not like she can do much either. 

 

But I have always thought that she has lived there all her life and she sees some things as "normal" when other people would be appalled by them. Like when she says her father killed her first boyfriend and she doesn't exactly say it with a sorry face. 

 

So the collar is just a bug prevention tool. Cool makes it clearer thanx for clarifying. I always try to figure out what the mindset is of a npc in a situation. So clarifying things like this helps alot with roleplaying. That collar still sometimes kill me tho. I don't have a fast hd and when fallout disables you from using the door at the market for a few seconds and the loading time it would sometimes explode lol. 

[ckworth]

I think that @Operand, @osculim, @krighaur, while your points maybe justified in most quest mods, I feel like the mod makes it clear from the start that you will need to exercise some amount of suspension of disbelief. Yeah, it's realistic that a person may want to escape after being treated that way by the Overboss but is it also very realistic that you were able to kill a person by insulting his height? Or exorcise an evil by dancing? If you can accept one then can you not accept the other?

 

I Don't know why @JB. called this mod Nuka "Ride" but I am honestly just here "along for the ride". So I don't see why playing the mod to know what happens next is a bad thing?

 

16 hours ago, Operand said:

. It doesn't make much sense even for bimbo PC - because even an animal understands where it's hot and where it hurts and it doesn't go there. Her list of alpha-male masters just grows and grows (Gage, Maxson, etc) - and she has to walk on eggshells around each and every of them or else risk punishment

Yeah it doesn't make sense but it would be perfectly realistic. People and animals aren't computers, they make illogical and unreasonable choices all the time. Why does an elephant that can weigh up to 7 tons and kill a person with one swipe of its leg take abuse from a 50-60 kg mahout with a stick? But it happens all the time. So do toxic relationships. It's really up to you how you want to roleplay it.

 

Also the whole DC guards would protect Nora thing doesn't actually add up a lot for me because, would they really be competent enough to protect her? The OB could still have her killed in retaliation, he has the connections to do so. He could also get any of the guards kidnap her back to NW because the only reason they love her is because she's a pornstar...if she stops being one then...why would they protect her? It's also in their interest to have her keep making pornos. The commonwealth isn't actually a place full of good and living people.

 

2 hours ago, krighaur said:

For me the breaking point is before that, it's the profanation of the wedding ring

In this scene, you could just drop the ring on the ground or store it in your apartment before talking to OB and he shouldn't take it. Maybe it's more immersive for you if you think that Nora removes her wedding ring for her day job as a pornstar to be atleast that much respectful to her late husband and only wears it at night. So when the OB demands it, you can roleplay getting incensed but lying about it to protect something you hold dear. And then you could say "pshew! Crisis averted!" and carry on or you could take that moment to roleplay your escape... 

 

I guess it really comes down to preference and your expectations for the mod. I hope I didn't come across as disrespectful, I'm just putting forth my opinions is all. That said, oftentimes I've seen that JB tries to incorporate feedback in some form or another because he always wants to improve the mod. And I say if this discussion inspires JB to make some story or gameplay improvements, it's always a good thing.

Edited May 14, 2023 by ckworth
Removed a line that might seem too aggressive even though I said I don't want to be disrespectful, lol! Sorry about that guys!

[osculim]

2 hours ago, ckworth said:

I think that @Operand, @osculim, @krighaur, while your points maybe justified in most quest mods, I feel like the mod makes it clear from the start that you will need to exercise some amount of suspension of disbelief. Yeah, it's realistic that a person may want to escape after being treated that way by the Overboss but is it also very realistic that you were able to kill a person by insulting his height? Or exorcise an evil by dancing? If you can accept one then can you not accept the other?

 

I Don't know why @JB. called this mod Nuka "Ride" but I am honestly just here "along for the ride". So I don't see why playing the mod to know what happens next is a bad thing?

 

Yeah it doesn't make sense but it would be perfectly realistic. People and animals aren't computers, they make illogical and unreasonable choices all the time. Why does an elephant that can weigh up to 7 tons and kill a person with one swipe of its leg take abuse from a 50-60 kg mahout with a stick? But it happens all the time. So do toxic relationships. It's really up to you how you want to roleplay it.

 

Also the whole DC guards would protect Nora thing doesn't actually add up a lot for me because, would they really be competent enough to protect her? The OB could still have her killed in retaliation, he has the connections to do so. He could also get any of the guards kidnap her back to NW because the only reason they love her is because she's a pornstar...if she stops being one then...why would they protect her? It's also in their interest to have her keep making pornos. The commonwealth isn't actually a place full of good and living people.

 

In this scene, you could just drop the ring on the ground or store it in your apartment before talking to OB and he shouldn't take it. Maybe it's more immersive for you if you think that Nora removes her wedding ring for her day job as a pornstar to be atleast that much respectful to her late husband and only wears it at night. So when the OB demands it, you can roleplay getting incensed but lying about it to protect something you hold dear. And then you could say "pshew! Crisis averted!" and carry on or you could take that moment to roleplay your escape... 

 

I guess it really comes down to preference and your expectations for the mod. I hope I didn't come across as disrespectful, I'm just putting forth my opinions is all. That said, oftentimes I've seen that JB tries to incorporate feedback in some form or another because he always wants to improve the mod. And I say if this discussion inspires JB to make some story or gameplay improvements, it's always a good thing.

I never said I want to escape. To be honest my characters will not try and run away it would be easy to if you really want. Like I explained I always try and see things from my characters perspective and try not metagame. I am well aware of what was intended at the start. How I see it and I mean my character is that the overboss care more about you than he let on. There are a few points during the mod where this comes very clear. I think he sees you more as just his slave. As for the whole rebel thing. Some of it are useful. And a very good use of it was during the head for business quest. My favorite of all the quests btw. It was very easy to see the mindsets of all the characters during that quest. The overboss is stressed out so he snaps at you and call you dumb and being called dumb and stupid the whole time is finally make you snap. You also have "Hank" nagging in your ears. This is where a bit of the rebel thing works imo. Telling everyone to go F themselves and that you will not be humiliated, The fact that the overboss also talks to you about his issues afterwards and not scold you or dismising you outright for snapping tells me that there is some humanity in the guy. Also during the movie night quest he once again shows he cares. During the walk to the theater he talks about the harlow situation. And the fact that he was too late open his eyes and see he had a strong woman with him. I also think he knows very well that you are not stupid or dumb either. There are few situations where that also comes out. Also I have that attributes install and I use that alot to gage how I handle situation. Depending on how I feel.

 

As for the whole gage situation. Both Mason and Gage eases up later. Was lots of fun to ask him to pay you to keep quiet about the fight with the gunner girl and then later telling daddy. I think he actually have more respect for you than people think  too. That is also shown during the trip with music to bunker hill. Also even after outing him about the fight he still say good things about you to the overboss. Also during the movie night quest he also once again shown respect for your diplomatic skills when you calmed the overboss down. Wall of text done sorry for that

Edited May 14, 2023 by osculim

[JB.]

@ckworth 

 

Even in a fantasy story there has to be consistency.

 

So there's a world where you break bones and heal in your sleep, or where there's a raider who gets bullet ricochets but gets seriously hurt by words. You can accept that as part of the story, but I think human emotions are non-negotiable. I like reading the comments because it does rethink things for me. 

 

@krighaur Thanks. Just one thing, "Attitude Adjustment" is an exclusive quest for Overboss bitches. You are saved from all that if you are not his slave. 

[clockw0rkh3art]

1 hour ago, JB. said:

Thanks. Just one thing, "Attitude Adjustment" is an exclusive quest for Overboss bitches. You are saved from all that if you are not his slave. 

Is that specifically if you've been being rebellious at every turn? I have been just kinda going along with everything for the lolz (Minus bestiality because no thank you xD) and I haven't triggered that quest. Or if I did I don't remember it (Which is highly possible, being mostly deaf is not my only issue, thanks genetics).

The Quest Dolled Up is having some issues for me, I go to talk to the OB, he says "Get over here white bread" (For some context on me, I am a white woman. I have never heard someone call someone else that, it was hilarious, had me cackling) I click on him again and it goes into conversation mode, but we're just standing there starring at each other. I tried to wait it out by meandering around with my headphones on but ten minutes later there was no progress so I loaded a previous save and got the same issue. I also tried quitting the game and trying again, but nothing. Skipping through the quest is of course an option, but I'm  kinda invested in the story at this point lol. Next try to fix is going to be starting another new character.

(Oh possible incompatibility with Perverse Perks if 'Easy Prey' is one of them everytime a scene happens you blackout get the message that you may have been drugged and that hours have passed... It was kinda helpful in the Nuka Club Quest where you were helping Maxon though)