Naked Defeat AE/SE

[Nymra]

18 minutes ago, Grumbrum said:

Still no (optional) cloth destruction?

 

no, only drop.
but it will come soon enough.
it just did not make it in the patch, the necessary changes already were so many, sorry

 

 

[throwmeinthetrash6]

Hi there, I'm hoping to get some help with an issue I'm having with the golden showers addon. My problem is that the pee is completely invisible. I don't see any particles during the animation or anything else, just the characters standing there doing the movements. I see other people have had this issue and you recommended downloading your SLAL animation pack to get the missing anim objects, but it's still not showing up for me even with that mod installed. Could you offer any additional help with this issue? Is there anything else you can think of that would prevent the particles from showing up?

[Nymra]

1 minute ago, throwmeinthetrash6 said:

Hi there, I'm hoping to get some help with an issue I'm having with the golden showers addon. My problem is that the pee is completely invisible. I don't see any particles during the animation or anything else, just the characters standing there doing the movements. I see other people have had this issue and you recommended downloading your SLAL animation pack to get the missing anim objects, but it's still not showing up for me even with that mod installed. Could you offer any additional help with this issue? Is there anything else you can think of that would prevent the particles from showing up?

 

with 4.52 the nif files for the effect are finally coming with Naked defeat itself, so they no longer require the external slal pack.

 

note, that the pee can be almost invisible depending on the light conditions.

you could also try to search for the pee effect with "additemmenu" mod and look for "zbf" and then look for an item lke "zbf_pee01" or stuff like that and just add it and equip it to see if THAT works (requires ZAZ animation pack ofc.)

 

I am using the same nif file.

 

also make sure the SLOT is not blocked by anything else. if you are using DDs for example maybe some slot blocks the pee slot already. 

[Gonzeh]

4 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

this also not working with 4.52? 
manual registration with aiming at the NPC should be foolproof, hmm. technically you should even be able to get ANY NPC including animals to be a follower with that.

 

can you send me a papyrus.log file when you try to register the followers?
do you use custom followers? did you try with a vanilla follower? 

 

Hi,

 

Deleted my Papyrus logs, started them again and this is what shows:

 

[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_whipquest_01 to  (530059DF) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_whipquest_02 to  (530059E1) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_whipquest_00 to  (530059EC) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A20) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A21) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A23) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A26) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A2B) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A30) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A31) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A32) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A35) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A36) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A37) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A38) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A39) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A3A) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A3B) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A42) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A44) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A45) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A46) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A48) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A4A) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A4B) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A4C) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A4D) because their base types do not match

 

Is this what is related to the trying to add follower? This is with Serana who I have a custom model for and uses the dialogue MOD. My new log is like 950mb already, i've disabled logging on all the mods I can but yours but some seem to be filling it up still. Can't really send a 850mb file LOL. CF is causing some serious spam in my logs, i'll see if I can get it to actually turn off like I told it too so I can see my log properly.

 

Also, when I crouch with weapon drawn and hit K it does the hair script, even if I try aiming at a follower or not it will always do the hair script.

Edited March 29, 2022 by Gonzeh

[Gonzeh]

Wouldn't let me edit my last post again so I have attached a file with all the log data related to "defeat" when I did a search.

Defeat.txt

[throwmeinthetrash6]

2 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

with 4.52 the nif files for the effect are finally coming with Naked defeat itself, so they no longer require the external slal pack.

 

note, that the pee can be almost invisible depending on the light conditions.

you could also try to search for the pee effect with "additemmenu" mod and look for "zbf" and then look for an item lke "zbf_pee01" or stuff like that and just add it and equip it to see if THAT works (requires ZAZ animation pack ofc.)

 

I am using the same nif file.

 

also make sure the SLOT is not blocked by anything else. if you are using DDs for example maybe some slot blocks the pee slot already. 

 

Thank you for the reply! I took your advice and used AddItemMenu to get the ZaZ pee objects, and the effect did show up when I equipped those. I looked into it more and it's actually only the 2 person animation that has the problem. I see the pee in the 3 person and 4 person golden shower animations, but it's not there in the 2 person animation. Any idea why this would be?

[Talesien]

12 hours ago, Nymra said:

Basically I was under the impression that most ppl used Sexlab to just strip everything. and so the PC is naked from Sex already.

How do you approach that? do you use the strip chances from SLU+?

 

True, but I've had it happen (perhaps that's another problem) that at times no sex scene took place. Also occasionally the char redresses before whipping. I assume that's a mod collision of some kind (it happens on new games too, so it's not a corrupted save). I had that problem before with SLSO ... but with that it always happened and the start ot the whipping scene took forever. Even without SLSO I still have the redress problem every now and then though, no idea what causes it (I keep forgetting to grab the Papyrus when it happens).

[Talesien]

Started a new game to play through "Thief" as that does not work well with my usual word enhancement mods. Sure enough first time NADE kicks in I get the redress issue between the sex scene and the whipping. Can't really see any trace of it in the papyrus though, if you are interested (and since you are likely better in picking a papyrus log apart) I attached the relevant section. I can get you the whole thing if you like, but it's huge as I've been playing for over 3 hours at that point.
 

redress_bug.log

[chuckyw]

On 3/24/2022 at 10:29 AM, Nymra said:

 

this is the SE thread, you are wrong here.

still: in my experience this only happens when there is a stack dump happening so some script lines might not execute.

I will double check if there is a rare issue from the mod itself, but for myself this never happend in a working game. 

It ended up being a ZAZ item "squirtingpussy" equipable item.  It did not unequip after the punishment scene ended.  It was a hidden item that I was able to find and remove.

[Nymra]

8 hours ago, Gonzeh said:

 

Hi,

 

Deleted my Papyrus logs, started them again and this is what shows:

 

[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_whipquest_01 to  (530059DF) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_whipquest_02 to  (530059E1) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_whipquest_00 to  (530059EC) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A20) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A21) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A23) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A26) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A2B) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A30) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A31) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A32) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A35) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A36) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A37) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A38) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A39) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A3A) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A3B) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A42) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A44) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A45) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A46) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A48) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A4A) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A4B) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A4C) because their base types do not match
[03/29/2022 - 07:48:37PM] Error: Unable to bind script nade_followeridlequest_01_qf_scr to  (53005A4D) because their base types do not match

 

these errors are harmless. sadly I dont know how to prevent them from showing up.

 

8 hours ago, Gonzeh said:

Is this what is related to the trying to add follower? This is with Serana who I have a custom model for and uses the dialogue MOD. My new log is like 950mb already, i've disabled logging on all the mods I can but yours but some seem to be filling it up still. Can't really send a 850mb file LOL. CF is causing some serious spam in my logs, i'll see if I can get it to actually turn off like I told it too so I can see my log properly.

 

My advice would be: fix your game first!
A log that is more than a single MB is usually hours old or has a stackdump in it.

The only way to write logs like yours are totally broken mods or load orders, this sounds absolutly unhealthy and disabling mod logging is not the solution here.

 

8 hours ago, Gonzeh said:

 

Also, when I crouch with weapon drawn and hit K it does the hair script, even if I try aiming at a follower or not it will always do the hair script.

 

coming from what you wrote about your log it might be that this is just massive script lag.

Try with a minimal load order that does not have the massive log first and then test Naked Defeat there.

 

AS for your log:
most of the entries from the log are not from Naked Defeat. 
The errors that show up I have too and they are not a problem.

 

 

 

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, Talesien said:

Started a new game to play through "Thief" as that does not work well with my usual word enhancement mods. Sure enough first time NADE kicks in I get the redress issue between the sex scene and the whipping. Can't really see any trace of it in the papyrus though, if you are interested (and since you are likely better in picking a papyrus log apart) I attached the relevant section. I can get you the whole thing if you like, but it's huge as I've been playing for over 3 hours at that point.
 

redress_bug.log 74.55 kB · 0 downloads

 

1. Naked Defeat never redresses ANYthing ever. The only thing it does is removing items. 

 

2. Did you try to configure Sexlab to "Redress after Sex" and "Victims redress"? with both disabled you can at least rule out its sexlab

 

3. do you have ANY mod that fiddels with clothing? any strip mod or whatnot could be responsible.

In general, if SL is configure correctly, some other mod should cause this, not a mod collision (no mod collision can do such a thing afaik)

 

4. also make sure you have no mod that uses AI commands/packages on the PC or something. The only fuckers that redress CONSTNATLY are damned Followers.

They redress whenever you equip a single item on them and be it just a cum.nif

 

 

[Nymra]

2 hours ago, chuckyw said:

It ended up being a ZAZ item "squirtingpussy" equipable item.  It did not unequip after the punishment scene ended.  It was a hidden item that I was able to find and remove.

 

I ll check, might be that in some circumstances this happens and I just did not realise that it happens because I also have dripping when aroused. 

thx for the report

[Nymra]

Naked Defeat - 4.52 - Hotfix (LE+SE)

 

Installation:

- install 4.50 full

- install 4.52 (Patch)

- install this hotfix

- disable and re-enable the mod in the MCM

- running FNIS is NOT required

 

Fixes:
- fixed (non Critical) Bug fixed that caused the Message to always read "No Race detected" even when it WAS detected.
- fixed (annoying) Bug that prevented the cuffs and chains to be removed after Defeat Ends (sorry)

 

Combat Stripping:
- forgot to make the "block slot" actually work in the main function. so NOW you can really block slots from beeing stripped from hits.
---> the feature is still in development, I am also working on expanding it for "NymStripping" 

[Lucci213]

Combat Strip is behaving wierd. I'm currently testing it with Bikini Armors but after getting stripped once, nothing else is getting removed even if my Strip chances are at 100%. Is there a time limit between Combat Strip events?

Papyrus.0.log

[Gonzeh]

4 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

these errors are harmless. sadly I dont know how to prevent them from showing up.

 

 

My advice would be: fix your game first!
A log that is more than a single MB is usually hours old or has a stackdump in it.

The only way to write logs like yours are totally broken mods or load orders, this sounds absolutly unhealthy and disabling mod logging is not the solution here.

 

 

coming from what you wrote about your log it might be that this is just massive script lag.

Try with a minimal load order that does not have the massive log first and then test Naked Defeat there.

 

AS for your log:
most of the entries from the log are not from Naked Defeat. 
The errors that show up I have too and they are not a problem.

 

 

 

 

Been trying to find out why CF is stack dumping like that in my log but everything anyone has told me hasn't worked.

[xarxyc]

Does this Defeat iteration have any Player aggressor functions? 

If not, could old Defeat/Submit used just for that, with everything regarding Player victim off?

Edited March 30, 2022 by xarxyc

[Nymra]

26 minutes ago, xarxyc said:

Does this Defeat iteration have any Player aggressor functions? 

no

 

26 minutes ago, xarxyc said:

If not, could old Defeat/Submit used just for that, with everything regarding Player victim off?

 

 

yes

[Nymra]

5 hours ago, Lucci213 said:

Combat Strip is behaving wierd. I'm currently testing it with Bikini Armors but after getting stripped once, nothing else is getting removed even if my Strip chances are at 100%. Is there a time limit between Combat Strip events?

Papyrus.0.log 197.02 kB · 2 downloads

 

try this hotfix.

overwrite all other fixes/patches

turn the mod off and on.

 

report back if it fixes it, thx!

Naked Defeat 4-52 Hotfix (CombatStrip) (LE+SE).7z

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, Gonzeh said:

Been trying to find out why CF is stack dumping like that in my log but everything anyone has told me hasn't worked.

 

I would try to see how your game behaves with CF uninstalled.

also you could remove mods from your load order group by group (starting with all mods related to CreaturesSex maybe) to see if that helps and then try to find out if an individual mod from your last group was responsible. 

could also be that your whole install is kinda fucked, so if all things break maybe try to make a new Load Order with a minimal Mod Load and rebuild step by step

Edited March 30, 2022 by Nymra

[Talesien]

8 hours ago, Nymra said:

2. Did you try to configure Sexlab to "Redress after Sex" and "Victims redress"? with both disabled you can at least rule out its sexlab

 

 

Thanks, but uhm ... dumb question, where is that "Redress after Sex" setting? I know the victims re-dress toggle and that's unchecked, but far as I can remember I've never seen a "Re-dress after Sex" toggle in SexLab.

[Nymra]

47 minutes ago, Talesien said:

Thanks, but uhm ... dumb question, where is that "Redress after Sex" setting? I know the victims re-dress toggle and that's unchecked, but far as I can remember I've never seen a "Re-dress after Sex" toggle in SexLab.

 

ah yeah sorry, its basically the same, I just did not remember the naming correctly.

 

Basically it should be like this: with "victims redress" toggled OFF and with the PC beeing Victim in Naked Defeat, the clothes should stay OFF after the SexScenes and when they DONT you either have a broken SL installl (could try to "rebuild Sexlab") or an additional plugin that does this (check all mods who overwrite sexlab stuff) OR you have somehow removed aggressive tag from ALL animations registered in Sexlab (this is unlikely the issue but can be). 

[BeefyJackal]

For some reason I get teleported someplace completely different when sex scene starts. No other mod that starts a sex scene has this problem. What could be the cause? Basically it teleports randomly across the map, but 70% of the time it teleports me to the sky, where they will fall to their deaths as soon as the animations end. Debug shows nothing, what can I do or check to see what's going wrong? 

Edit: The golden shower always works. No teleporting, no probems. But as soon as the "sex" starts I get noclipped in to the void when indoors, or to the sky when outdoors. Hope this can clear something up. The golden shower uses sexlab aswell correct? Why is that working but the scenes don't? I'm not using a follower, and I am using a custom race. The race shouldn't have problems with just your mod, right? I tried this with a nord vanilla race follower and she was no clipped to the skies with me. The distance between us never changed. 

Third edit: Never mind, found the culprit. A mod which "supposedly" changes stuff (expressions) in scenes is conflicting with this. It was in my load order by accident lol. Now it works like normal again! 

Edited March 30, 2022 by BeefyJackal

[Lucci213]

6 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

try this hotfix.

overwrite all other fixes/patches

turn the mod off and on.

 

report back if it fixes it, thx!

Naked Defeat 4-52 Hotfix (CombatStrip) (LE+SE).7z 12.28 kB · 4 downloads

It's working beautifully now, thanks! Did some more thorough testing and here's what I got.

• Bikini Armor Stripping, from full set to nude -- OK
• Blocking Slots to prevent Stripping -- OK
• Shield Stripping (slot 39) -- BUG, can't be stripped. Attached papyrus log is me getting hit for 2 minutes with nothing but a shield equipped and it never got removed.
  • Papyrus.0.log
  • Perhaps its because the shield is not a typical armor piece and may need a different method of removal? Consider removing it from the BodySlots Library if a workaround is too much hassle
• SexlabNoStrip items NOT getting stripped -- OK

 

Of note:

 

First: the Combat Strip HUD message gets hard to read when a piece of armor has a long name. Notable on Enchanted Loot (Novice Robes of Major Destruction) and Bikini Armors (Leather Bikini Padded Boots). Perhaps it can be shortened?

• From:
  • "[Steel Helmet of Minor Alchemy] has been damaged and unequipped."
  • "[Steel Helmet of Minor Alchemy] has been damaged and dropped."
• To something like:
  • "[Steel Helmet of Minor Alchemy] was stripped!"
  • "[Steel Helmet of Minor Alchemy] was torn off!"

Second: Follower Strip settings when Defeated/Surrender, is it always [Body, Hand, Feet, Head, Weapon, Shield] or is there a setting for what gets stripped? I kinda want them to follow SexLab's Aggressive Strip settings or at the very least keep their Hand/Feet armors (slot 33/37) while getting fucked and/or strapped to a piece of furniture.

[Guest]

On 3/24/2022 at 8:31 AM, Nymra said:

 

I remember somebody having this issue but solved it somehow. It was a third mod interfering.

Apart of that make sure you have Zap 8+ installed and no earlier zap version.

 

 

Do you by any chance remember what mod? I have a ton right now.

 

EDIT: I managed to fix the issue, but I haven't pinpointed whether the issue arose due to my own personal error whilst installing ZAP or whether it was the mod I removed. It was probably a mixture of both, but since I managed to fix it, I'm not going to press it on my end.

If anyone else has my problem with the furniture though: I installed both ZAP 8 and 8.0+, then when I went in game I noticed that it was working. When I enabled ZAP no collision furniture and ZAP 8+ in and out of furnitures, strangely my version of ZAP downgraded back to 7.0 on its own, and subsequently stopped working with Naked Defeat. I have no idea why, I am not tech/mod savvy in the least, I just know that when I disabled those mods, it now works. Hurray!

Edited March 31, 2022 by steilemil

[crajjjj]

Just fyi. It was bugging me for a long time