Naked Defeat AE/SE

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, Myrtel G said:

I have been puzzling about the DayMol entries as well. I don't use it in my current game, haven't used it for a long time. I guess, I will spend tomorrow hunting down what could have been left of it in my game. I use MO2, there shouldn't be anything at all, I thought it creates a virtual folder with all the stuff never actually being written into the Skyrim folder. Wish me luck figuring that one out.

 

scripts can get stuck in your save when they are active. use Save Cleaner/ReSaver to check.

Also double check you really removed everything from those mods you uninstalled. 

 

3 hours ago, Myrtel G said:

About the xpmse scripts, I am aware of those, haven't figured out how to get rid of them yet.

 

There are scriptless versions. I just removed EVERYTHING from the XPMSE folder except the meshes manually...

[bau5creepr]

having an issue with no aggressors found. I have females enabled but when i get attacked no women ever start the defeat. I tried doing like the person from before and deleting the tags but now the women are doing gay things like sucking non existent dick rather than initating a lesbian animation. Here is my papyrus from just minute ago when i decided to add the lesbian tag to ND

Papyrus.0.log

[Nymra]

33 minutes ago, bau5creepr said:

having an issue with no aggressors found. I have females enabled but when i get attacked no women ever start the defeat. I tried doing like the person from before and deleting the tags but now the women are doing gay things like sucking non existent dick rather than initating a lesbian animation. Here is my papyrus from just minute ago when i decided to add the lesbian tag to ND

Papyrus.0.log 765.07 kB · 0 downloads

I m not really sure what you want from me here.

1. I developed Naked Defeat with Male Enemies in mind. Sexlab is a hellhole for everything gender related and decides to fuck up even simple things like 1 Male Raper, 1 Female Raper, 1 Female Slave will result in the female slave and female raper raping the male raper in the ass.... 
I tried around alot but never could get a good measure, so I postponed... I kind of hope for SLP+ to fix that shit, but that comes with other issues.

2. there are two settings for females: "Allow Female Rapers" should lead to a possiblity for FF animations if the raper group is purely female. If a male is in the group, te mod will look for MFF and similar animations. 
Other setting is "Female in Male Positions" leading females to equip strapons and asume the position of a male in normal MF, MMF, MMMF etc. animations

My plans are to control better which does what, but I dont have high hopes that I can achieve that wiht just Sexlab 1.66 and/or SLU+, so I postpone this...

Also I play with ALL aggressor and gender related sexlab animation filtering OFF. You can play around with those settings. IMO they are all bad, no matter if turned off or ON. 
SLU+ options should work a tad better than base Sexlab, but had no time to test that yet.

 

[UsernameTaken666]

25 minutes ago, Nymra said:

I m not really sure what you want from me here.

1. I developed Naked Defeat with Male Enemies in mind. Sexlab is a hellhole for everything gender related and decides to fuck up even simple things like 1 Male Raper, 1 Female Raper, 1 Female Slave will result in the female slave and female raper raping the male raper in the ass.... 
I tried around alot but never could get a good measure, so I postponed... I kind of hope for SLP+ to fix that shit, but that comes with other issues.

2. there are two settings for females: "Allow Female Rapers" should lead to a possiblity for FF animations if the raper group is purely female. If a male is in the group, te mod will look for MFF and similar animations. 
Other setting is "Female in Male Positions" leading females to equip strapons and asume the position of a male in normal MF, MMF, MMMF etc. animations

My plans are to control better which does what, but I dont have high hopes that I can achieve that wiht just Sexlab 1.66 and/or SLU+, so I postpone this...

Also I play with ALL aggressor and gender related sexlab animation filtering OFF. You can play around with those settings. IMO they are all bad, no matter if turned off or ON. 
SLU+ options should work a tad better than base Sexlab, but had no time to test that yet.

 

I stoped reading after the “gay things” bs..

Edited April 30, 2025 by UsernameTaken666

[Nymra]

47 minutes ago, UsernameTaken666 said:

I stoped reading after the “gay things” bs..

 

so?

I like FF, I want it in my game. I like MFF animations and all the rest. 
Dunno what you read in there, its just a pain to work with script wise. 

Been long time working on a scenario where the PC is forced to have some FF action with her followers while beeing whipped, cummed and peed on, lol!

As for MM support, that is something I would not like to debug 10 hours a day, but luckily it should be alot easier to implement and basically should already work quite ok. 
 

Edited April 30, 2025 by Nymra

[UsernameTaken666]

25 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

so?

I like FF, I want it in my game. I like MFF animations and all the rest. 
Dunno what you read in there, its just a pain to work with script wise. 

Been long time working on a scenario where the PC is forced to have some FF action with her followers while beeing whipped, cummed and peed on, lol!

As for MM support, that is something I would not like to debug 10 hours a day, but luckily it should be alot easier to implement and basically should already work quite ok. 
 

Sigh

My apologies. I was trying to quote the prev user but apparently it didn’t work. Carry on.

I, personally, have no issue with what you’re doing. Just ignore me. 

ETA: it was the Bau5creepr nonsense..

Edited April 30, 2025 by UsernameTaken666

[Nymra]

10 minutes ago, UsernameTaken666 said:

Sigh

My apologies. I was trying to quote the prev user but apparently it didn’t work. Carry on.

I, personally, have no issue with what you’re doing. Just ignore me. 

ETA: it was the Bau5creepr nonsense..

 

hehe, no worries, just text beeing read and missread.

[bau5creepr]

5 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

hehe, no worries, just text beeing read and missread.

I love the mod tho dont get me wrong everything else is working as intended aside from my FF interractions. And id love to get some forced scenes with the follower that sounds amazing! I'll play around more with the settings i just thought it was unusual because with past releases of ND FF worked, the issue was with the animals lol. Now seems everything works except FF, but i dont expect you to work up a crazy miracle.

[shizachan]

Are followers intended to strip and crawl even if ND follower defeat sex is disabled? I'm using this alongside Submissive Lola and the dom follower crawling naked and occasionally bound while not participating in defeat scenes is less than ideal, it'd be nice to have the option for them to just idle fully clothed.

 

Also, this is probably an unpopular opinion, but I'd be interested in a way to toggle off defeat by human aggressors, so it's possible to only have defeat triggered by creatures. Something to consider adding down the road.

 

I've noticed v5.26 seems a lot less accurate at identifying the species of the attacker than the previous version, but this might be because I updated midgame, if so that's on me. I reverted back to v5.2 for now.

 

Really appreciate your continuing work on this mod!

[cascen]

oi oi hi Nymra for some reason the blur screen stay on very very long... idkw

so the mod is not anymore compatible with sexlab separate orgasm?

Edited May 1, 2025 by cascen

[UsernameTaken666]

28 minutes ago, cascen said:

oi oi hi Nymra for some reason the blur screen stay on very very long... idkw

so the mod is not anymore compatible with sexlab separate orgasm?

yes

[Nymra]

15 hours ago, shizachan said:

Are followers intended to strip and crawl even if ND follower defeat sex is disabled? I'm using this alongside Submissive Lola and the dom follower crawling naked and occasionally bound while not participating in defeat scenes is less than ideal, it'd be nice to have the option for them to just idle fully clothed.

 

something has to be done with them, tho. 
They are defeated also. 
I dont know if I can account for just about everything ppl want. 

I put it on the list and see. 

 

15 hours ago, shizachan said:

Also, this is probably an unpopular opinion, but I'd be interested in a way to toggle off defeat by human aggressors, so it's possible to only have defeat triggered by creatures. Something to consider adding down the road.

 

hmm, this is very unusual, even when I understand it. 
Same as above and even more time consuming to implement. 
I can skip the playtesting and drop you some betas. If you just test them for me with papyrus logging and reports, the whole process would be a lot easier for me to do.

 

15 hours ago, shizachan said:

I've noticed v5.26 seems a lot less accurate at identifying the species of the attacker than the previous version, but this might be because I updated midgame, if so that's on me. I reverted back to v5.2 for now.

 

its completely irrelevant when you update what. Naked Defeat is 100% independend of new game, mid game, late game, etc. 
Before making assumptions, it would be alot more helpful for me if you enabled papyrus logging and drop me the logs when the attackers are missidentified. (see my signature for a tutorial). 

[Nymra]

42 minutes ago, cascen said:

oi oi hi Nymra for some reason the blur screen stay on very very long... idkw

 

very long when? there are many blurs. Which message was last? And does it stay on forever or go away eventually?
If it just stays on VERY long something might make a transition very long, most likely something Sexlab related. 
A papyrus log of the situation would be helpful. 

 

42 minutes ago, cascen said:

so the mod is not anymore compatible with sexlab separate orgasm?

 

it was never made with SLSO in mind, tho I never had any reports about it or requests. 

SLSO is only active during sex, so I think there should be no issues? 
I would disable "Insatiable Aggressors" and "Naked Orgasm Management" from Naked Defeat to not make both mods fire during sex. 

Feel free to update me on that. If I can do something that increases SLSO compatibility possibly I would at least consider. 
 

[mikesolo1975]

thanks for the amazing work my friend

in the last version i have this in Fnis

 

Duplicate AnimEvent nade_IdlesDefeatUnbound_01 for character, mods NakedDefeat and NakedDefeat
Duplicate AnimEvent nade_IdlesDefeatUnbound_02 for character, mods NakedDefeat and NakedDefeat
 2 possible consistence issues

 

thanks for any help and advice

[Nethertale]

Problem...

 

I believe "This stuff seems to fit quite nice" and "This stuff is wasted amd won't fit" are BETA features that is off in mcm but the mod still removes body armor anyway

 

To no anvil it works and I have to disable the mod and stick to SL defeat, pls help

 

 

 

Btw in SL Defeat Baka Edition instead setting sexual assault chance to 50% causes issues or works fine with this mod?

Edited May 1, 2025 by Nethertale

[Guest]

On 4/29/2025 at 2:44 PM, TeezMe said:

DD issue:  I think there is a DD option in the MCM so you can reduce the percentage to nothing or maybe a checkbox.  Can't remember where.  About those pesky arm restraints, I was getting the same armbinder lockup devices during the defeat scenario.  Tried to disable them  but instead I just set the wiggle free chance pretty high >50%.  Wiggle a few times after ND is done with you and you get loose.  Adds the benefit of removing all of your current devices.  I like that part.  Always a piercing I can get rid of.  Players that use DD:   Definitely a love hate issue with DD and DE chests.  Happens when you don't want it to and never when you do.  Glad that ND is bringing in features too but MMph mmph mmph.  (just had a gag put on me).  🥰

Wanted to thank you.  I finally did what you suggested and set the wiggle chance higher.  Took me a while to figure out how to get out of the arm restraints but once I did, I feel better about the DD (not you) being in my game.  Lost too many keys before I figured it out though.  Reading instructions helps.  🤣  Advice:  don't play when you can't think.  Just a suggestion.  💖

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, Nethertale said:

Problem...

 

I believe "This stuff seems to fit quite nice" and "This stuff is wasted amd won't fit" are BETA features that is off in mcm but the mod still removes body armor anyway

 

To no anvil it works and I have to disable the mod and stick to SL defeat, pls help

 

check if you have "Naked Loot" enabled in "Extras" 

 

1 hour ago, Nethertale said:

Btw in SL Defeat Baka Edition instead setting sexual assault chance to 50% causes issues or works fine with this mod?

 

it causes issues.
you have to disable "NPC rapes Player" or whatever it is called these days completely. 

Edited May 1, 2025 by Nymra

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, mikesolo1975 said:

thanks for the amazing work my friend

 

thank you, glad to hear that  

 

3 hours ago, mikesolo1975 said:

in the last version i have this in Fnis

 

Duplicate AnimEvent nade_IdlesDefeatUnbound_01 for character, mods NakedDefeat and NakedDefeat
Duplicate AnimEvent nade_IdlesDefeatUnbound_02 for character, mods NakedDefeat and NakedDefeat
 2 possible consistence issues

 

thanks for any help and advice

 

not harmful 

[Nethertale]

2 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

check if you have "Naked Loot" enabled in "Extras" 

Cheers

[Rithareous]

Hi there,

The option for Defeat on Naked Hit seems really difficult to understand, despite being a really good feature for this type of mod.

In a future update, would it be possible to re-implement this feature to a % based chance on melee hit/ ranged hit/ magic attack, and then configure which armor slots need to be empty for this condition? ie, only body slot 32, or a combination of 32 + 33 + 37 + 42, etc. etc. There are just so many custom armor mods out there which all occupy different slots that it's really hard to come up with a universal condition check.

 

[Guest]

My game is gone.  Unplayable due to some strange xAudio crash according to crash logger.  I am adding this log only to show the crash coincides with a defeat state through ND.  8 crashes in 3 days all related to combat defeats or hits on my character.  If there is nothing here, I would appreciate you telling me so I can simply reload the base game and start over.  I was hit by an arrow in this log.  One arrow and the defeat started and the game crashed.  Prior instances were magic impacts all on the player.  I have not updated to the latest game version yet.  I looked at the log and didn't see anything relevant and expect that you will not as well.  Hoping for some confirmation that it is not ND related so I can move on.  This all started a few days ago and I have never seen this type of crash before.  Thank you.  I am level 30 in game to show the time involved before this started happening.   Nothing added or updated which is the frustrating part.   🥹

Papyrus.0.log

Edited May 2, 2025 by TFor2

[Da Bosss]

So I just installed the latest Naked Defeat and I was defeated by a human and I got the message: "You were defeated by Humans" however right after the screen goes blurry and I see Naked Defeat Aborted message. Not sure what is going on. I have installed Acheron and the Acheron event bridge as well. I've attached my Papyrus log. Reading through it it seems something went wrong here: 

Error: Cannot call DisableNoWait() on a None object, aborting function call

 

Papyrus.0.log

Edited May 2, 2025 by Da Bosss

[Da Bosss]

Ok so I realized I had the option to allow female aggressors turned off. I turned it on and I was able to enter the Naked Defeat scenario but I kept getting

No Aggressor to add!

as the message twice and no animations played then I got a message that the

It seems like they are done with you.

 

Afterwards my PC and my follower were stuck in the defeat state and I had to go to console select them and type "acheron rescue" to free both.

 

Not sure why no animations were played and why I wasn't freed from the acheron defeat state.

 

These are my naked defeat mods:

Naked Defeat 5-26

Naked Defeat - EXTRA - OAR crawl animations v2

Naked Defeat - EXTRA - Acheron Bridge (SE)

 

and I am on Sexlab P+

 

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

Edited May 2, 2025 by Da Bosss
adding image

[Savior123]

Great mod, Its it possible to play a mini game like defeat before you get bound and dealt with???

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, Savior123 said:

Great mod, Its it possible to play a mini game like defeat before you get bound and dealt with???

 

not planned. the mini game is actually skyrim itself and that you try not to get defeated in the first place