Naked Defeat AE/SE

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, Gudulba said:

When I import the Nymra SLATE json, I get "Successfully imported 112 of the 260 actions". Is this expected outcome?

 

I have to add that I imported Osmels json quite a long time ago.

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it only imports stuff on animations that you have and  skips duplicates.

 

I guess you probably dont have FunnyBiz and or Anubs/Babo or older versions?

Make sure you dont miss my Nymra Forced Foreplay pack! 🙂 

 

You can also see in the papyrus.0.log what SLTAE is doing if you are curious. 

 

 

[calibre123]

On 4/12/2025 at 1:00 AM, Talesien said:

Basically, ZAZ is old, ZAZ8+ is just the least old/outdated of the bunch and the one people use and 'recommend'. Most mods that require an older ZAZ versions will work with newer versions. (ZAZ9 exempted, but that's only available for LE anyway.) However ... there is no guarantee (there never is) and generally speaking if a mod wants ZAZ7, it's so old you might want to stay away from it unless you know what you are doing. That stated, SL Sexual Fame usually works fine in general and with ZAZ8+.
There is Sexual Fame Reloaded, which is a much more modern version. It used to be pretty volatile, but appears to have settled down in the last few months and seems stable enough now to be used on load orders you care about.

thank you so much for your respond and your knowledge

 

so if i have to have a ZAZ mod it might Aswell be ZAZ8+ right ? 

 

[Nymra]

39 minutes ago, calibre123 said:

thank you so much for your respond and your knowledge

so if i have to have a ZAZ mod it might Aswell be ZAZ8+ right ? 

 

yes. the only difference in my links are the bodyslide files.

[Nethertale]

I'm using SL Deafeat Baka Edition for maximum Compatibility with Babo mods but I don't find the "NPC Rapes Player" option but there is Sexual assault chance in "Player as victim" category, is that it? Should I make it 0%? 

 

Also since I'm here, Nymra, some of your forced foreplay animations have issues, the male characters is a few meters further from female

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, Nethertale said:

I'm using SL Deafeat Baka Edition for maximum Compatibility with Babo mods but I don't find the "NPC Rapes Player" option but there is Sexual assault chance in "Player as victim" category, is that it? Should I make it 0%? 

 

Yeah, might be named differently in different versions, but that should be 0% yes.

 

1 hour ago, Nethertale said:

Also since I'm here, Nymra, some of your forced foreplay animations have issues, the male characters is a few meters further from female

 

yeah I know. You can one time fix that via the Sexlab Alignment hotkeys, then save your sexlab settings. 
When I have time I will update the SLAL, but its very annoying work  

[Nymra]

Ok guys. need some advice.... 

On LE this was a mess but somehow worked. But on SE I just have no idea...

How to get High Heels height right?
Sexlab adjusts it automatically, but at least Sexlab 1.66b is very unrealiable with it (so was it on LE).
 

But on idles and ZAP furnitures there is... welll.. nothing. Only that HeelsFix mod which is basically useless since it only adjust sitting height on chairs o_O

Tried to write some script myself, applying NiOverride adjustments during Crawling with heels and when in Zap Furniture... but Sexlab gets confused with that. Sigh

 

[Autogrand624]

Is this against the player only? Or can the player do it to NPCs? I wanted to confirm, though i saw it was incompatible with Sexlab Submit. Essentially i'm looking for mods that have consequences when you are defeated, but that rules apply to NPCS as well. This includes slavery too. 

Edited April 16, 2025 by Autogrand624

[Nymra]

2 hours ago, Autogrand624 said:

Is this against the player only? Or can the player do it to NPCs? I wanted to confirm, though i saw it was incompatible with Sexlab Submit. Essentially i'm looking for mods that have consequences when you are defeated, but that rules apply to NPCS as well. This includes slavery too. 

 

This mod is for PC loses to NPC only and will always be. NPC defeat you, rape you, sell you, keep you, kill you etc. (longer slavery and captivity scenarios are possible depending on your settings and more dedicated ones are in the making (Local Slavery, Sold into Slavery, Forced Labor, Prison, left to die etc....) 
You can use other mods that handle the NPCs lose to PC thing in conjuction (for example SL Defeat versions). 

If I ever do a PC vs. NPC thing it would be a seperate mod. And I personally dont think that any mod that exists that does both is really doing each of it well

 

[Miss Sophia]

On 4/14/2025 at 12:39 AM, Talesien said:

Menu Maid 2 crashes if you open its MCM? Never heard that before. If it does not show ND, that means ND's MCM(quest) did not initialize, which explains why the MCM does not show.

Menu Maid can break quite a few things. When i get on my game later, I can tell you what I use instead.

[Nymra]

spicy new update soon

had to tame followers first (preparing for a wider follower support that needs the year old scripts to be rewritten). 

 

 

[jariabila]

I wonder if we still do need SLATE with P+?

[Talesien]

1 hour ago, Nymra said:

spicy new update soon

had to tame followers first (preparing for a wider follower support that needs the year old scripts to be rewritten).
 

While at that, as I got asked today about the ND Acheron bridge, I wondered if I should give Acheron another chance to let me down. So ... does that bridge thingy still work, any clue?

Edited April 17, 2025 by Talesien

[Talesien]

26 minutes ago, jariabila said:

I wonder if we still do need SLATE with P+?

P+ uses his own system for tagging animations AFAIK, so SLATE is neither needed nor going to work with P+. However you probably still need the right tags on the animations, so you would have to add those yourself, employing whatever method P+ uses for that.

Edited April 17, 2025 by Talesien

[Guest]

DD question for real this time.  I added DDNG and devious chests.  Fun so far but activated the ND add on features related to ND.  DC seems to work perfectly prior to being defeated.  3 activations so far.  During an ND defeat, I was equipped with hand restraints/binders that wouldn't release with keys.  Finally realized you need the wiggle key to escape using the wiggle % you set in the MCM.  It worked.  The question is related to the DD I was already wearing.  Maybe 7 pieces.  The wiggle key removed them all not just the ND added one.  That's ok but didn't expect it.   Just wanted to confirm ND wiggle will remove them all.  Thank you.

[Nymra]

48 minutes ago, Talesien said:

While at that, as I got asked today about the ND Acheron bridge, I wondered if I should give Acheron another chance to let me down. So ... does that bridge thingy still work, any clue?

 

the bridge should still work, I did not change anything with the ND scripts or the Bridge scripts. 

[Nymra]

37 minutes ago, TeezMe said:

DD question for real this time.  I added DDNG and devious chests.  Fun so far but activated the ND add on features related to ND.  DC seems to work perfectly prior to being defeated.  3 activations so far.  During an ND defeat, I was equipped with hand restraints/binders that wouldn't release with keys.

 

The Devices are just locked like normal, dunno about why the keys would not work, as far as I can see they are not out of the ordinary. But I ll make a note to check. 

 

37 minutes ago, TeezMe said:

  Finally realized you need the wiggle key to escape using the wiggle % you set in the MCM.  It worked.  The question is related to the DD I was already wearing.  Maybe 7 pieces.  The wiggle key removed them all not just the ND added one.  That's ok but didn't expect it.   Just wanted to confirm ND wiggle will remove them all.  Thank you.

 

The Wiggle key removes all DDs. There is actually no disctinction at all between DDs added by this mod or others, its all just the same DDs. 
ND should NOT remove DD quest items tho (from Cursed Loot or other mods that tag their DDs as quest items). 

 

 

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, jariabila said:

I wonder if we still do need SLATE with P+?

 

I think people are way too confused with SLSB still ,especially when it comes to identifying correctly which one they need.
My latest info is, that only an SLSB for my SLAL Golden SHower exists, which is now outdated (the SLAL is no longer used by Naked Defeat internally). 
 

My SLATE action file, my Nymra SLAL and my Nymra Forced Foreplay SLAL all need to be registered via SLSB now, which think users can somehow do themselves, but I dont keep track of official integrations at the moment. 

I plan on switching to SLP+ in the next months, only then will I be able to fully support its environment. 
Currently I am laying the foundation by building up my SLATE list, which will grow alot over the coming updates and doing it via SLATe is just way more effective for me (and is also going to be supported in the future, along side SLP+) 

[jariabila]

3 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

I think people are way too confused with SLSB still ,especially when it comes to identifying correctly which one they need.
My latest info is, that only an SLSB for my SLAL Golden SHower exists, which is now outdated (the SLAL is no longer used by Naked Defeat internally). 
 

My SLATE action file, my Nymra SLAL and my Nymra Forced Foreplay SLAL all need to be registered via SLSB now, which think users can somehow do themselves, but I dont keep track of official integrations at the moment. 

I plan on switching to SLP+ in the next months, only then will I be able to fully support its environment. 
Currently I am laying the foundation by building up my SLATE list, which will grow alot over the coming updates and doing it via SLATe is just way more effective for me (and is also going to be supported in the future, along side SLP+) 

 

Seeing a big mod author to switch SLP+ is always nice to see. There are a couple SLSB pack (official slsb pack and one that vxer done) on P+ discord, which recently tried, i think they worked pretty good (Only bukkake stuff was misaligned). My only issue is furniture and whipping scenes. Instead of PC tied to related furniture, it stuck on crawling position, no matter what i tried it always ended up like that.  And after that another furniture animation played but without furniture.  Other wise mod work much much better then last mouth since new updates. Cant wait to see fully SLP+ implementation and new updates.

[Nymra]

28 minutes ago, jariabila said:

 

Seeing a big mod author to switch SLP+ is always nice to see. There are a couple SLSB pack (official slsb pack and one that vxer done) on P+ discord, which recently tried, i think they worked pretty good (Only bukkake stuff was misaligned). My only issue is furniture and whipping scenes. Instead of PC tied to related furniture, it stuck on crawling position, no matter what i tried it always ended up like that.  And after that another furniture animation played but without furniture.  Other wise mod work much much better then last mouth since new updates. Cant wait to see fully SLP+ implementation and new updates.

 

this seems to be unrelated to SLP+ but is a Pandora Problem. Try Pandora BETA 2.7 - I was told it fixes it but had no time to test.

How was Bukkake misaligned? Its just 5 individual sexlab SOLO scenes playing on their spots, its not a coherent 5P scene or something.

Did you try Foreplay Chance 100% with my Forced Foreplay SLAL on SLP+? 

[Guest]

I'm standing up immediately after the defeat. Been consistent for a while.  

Papyrus.0.log

[Guest]

Just now, TFor2 said:

I'm standing up immediately after the defeat. Been consistent for a while.  

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Me too but its always been that way.

[Guest]

Did you message.  Had a msg from you on ND but didn't see anything.

Edited April 17, 2025 by TFor2

[Guest]

Just now, TFor2 said:

Did you message.  Had a msg from ND but didn't see anything.

Asked about streaming on OF with Skyrim and ND.  Deleted it. Thanks for asking about it though.

[Guest]

Trying the bathing now in my game.  Allowing my player to get dirty.  Shows "Filthy" textures and in the active effects menu.  Tried the ND bathing but it does not affect the textures or the active effects.  Using BIS, not the extended version.  BIS bathing will remove the textures and active effects.  Anyone else seeing this?

Papyrus.0.log

[Nymra]

16 minutes ago, TFor2 said:

I'm standing up immediately after the defeat. Been consistent for a while.  

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I know. I m working on it but its somehow inconsistent and hard to track down