Naked Defeat AE/SE

[Guest]

13 hours ago, Shalkerc said:

I am looking at this mod to maybe replace bakafactories defeat mod since I cleaned out my mod list to try and optimize my game better by not downloading as many unneseccary mods, is this mod a good replacement for that defeat mod? Just curious.

I'm still learning about sex mods and never used another defeat mod but I can describe what I like about Naked Defeat.  I started by disabling all of the extra features.  I would get defeated, get abused, and then get released to crawl away.  I like I can try again soon after.  I added robbery which was a shock as I lost all my things and my favorite outfit.  😭  It made the game slow down and I stopped trying to rush through mentally with my normal playstyle at this point.  So it was fun in a different way.  Now I have to fight smart to recover my things and even leave and return later after getting some armor and weapons. 

 

I then added the options to get rescued or sent to the afterlife death thing after the defeat.  I also checked slavery but I may not have everything I need yet.  Anyway,  I was defeated 5 times in a fort near Helgen so I had a chance to test and enjoy.  

 

I then added the aftermath options.  Whipping was a shock but wow, I really liked it.  Seeing the whipping and then the whip-marks was so fun.  My heartrate was up getting into it.  Not a fan of the rape hands.  Getting me all dirty with grubby hands  was creepy so I disabled that.  Wiggling to get away was ok.  I love getting strapped to different things so it's fine.  Some of the contraptions are SO SEXY.  And there is a chance they come back for another round.  This slows the game down again.  It was different at first  as I was a "go here" and "do that" and "get this" as fast as possible player.  My headgame was playing as a Wonder Woman type character.  My roommate called me Super Bitch because of the way I played.  If  you are a quest driven mostly, try it and see.  I'm having fun.  It is a different game now.  It may have helped adding the sex mods and Naked Defeat all at once so it is all new at the same time.  I'm having sex 10-15 times a game day now.  Seems the guys can't get enough.  Who knew Skyrim could be like this.🥰 Definitely not Super Bitch now.  😉 Negatives are those black strapons the girls use.  Really?  On the list to as T about.  Why can't they at least make a realistic looking dildo?  

 

More features:  I'm trying the combat stripping now.  I didn't think I would like it but it turns out it's a personal fav.  I get naked the longer I fight.  @TFor2 suggested some mods for bandit dialogue and the bandits say what they want to do with me while in combat and being naked impacts what they say.  Not sure if they are ND or the other mods comments.  Fun.  Guys may not like this feature but it's sexy for me.  Next for me is trying the outfit tool in ND.  My friend is going to guide me through it at some point.

 

Things to consider maybe.  I don't have animal sex options so I can't speak about that but it's available if you are defeated by them.  Again, more to think about.  Draugers raping me?  Still have to think about that for me but it's there.  Also there are some fun little extras like drinking a potion and getting defeated by a poisoned one.  

 

Coming from vanilla style game, this was all really new to me.  I had a standard plan when I played.  This quest first, this 2nd, on and on.  Now I am learning to stop planning and just play.  Quests of course but seeing the world while I play.  

 

ND has potentially long scenarios when you get defeated.  Or you can disable the extras.  I'm enjoying them.  I stopped the heavy survival mode and use a basic one instead.  I limit my fast travel but can still do it.  ND has a fast travel feature but it needs animals so that is pending.  Anyway, sex is better than worrying about dying from the cold.  My opinion.  

 

If you simply want a mod that saves you from reloading (hate that), ND can do it and why I added it.  Stable and works for me.  Setup required of course.   If you want to add to the "one and done" sex, ND can definitely do that.  Sounds like a test playthrough coming for you.  Maybe....

 

Yesterday I walked into Whiterun completely naked after several fights and getting my outfit destroyed.  I'm a mage so no armor allowed for me and I wanted to craft my outfit.  I actually felt embarrassed.  I mean I personally felt embarrassed.  My little immersion.  I would never play without clothes so it felt it like being in public for real without them.  I might play only with a DD bra and panties but not naked.  Catch you later☺️ 

 

*(DD does not stand for Devious Devices - wink)  Sorry, just playing around.  Typing all this put me in a playful mood.  Have fun...

 

 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, TeezMe said:

I'm still learning about sex mods and never used another defeat mod but I can describe what I like about Naked Defeat.  I started by disabling all of the extra features.  I would get defeated, get abused, and then get released to crawl away.  I like I can try again soon after.  I added robbery which was a shock as I lost all my things and my favorite outfit.  😭  It made the game slow down and I stopped trying to rush through mentally with my normal playstyle at this point.  So it was fun in a different way.  Now I have to fight smart to recover my things and even leave and return later after getting some armor and weapons. 

 

I then added the options to get rescued or sent to the afterlife death thing after the defeat.  I also checked slavery but I may not have everything I need yet.  Anyway,  I was defeated 5 times in a fort near Helgen so I had a chance to test and enjoy.  

 

I then added the aftermath options.  Whipping was a shock but wow, I really liked it.  Seeing the whipping and then the whip-marks was so fun.  My heartrate was up getting into it.  Not a fan of the rape hands.  Getting me all dirty with grubby hands  was creepy so I disabled that.  Wiggling to get away was ok.  I love getting strapped to different things so it's fine.  Some of the contraptions are SO SEXY.  And there is a chance they come back for another round.  This slows the game down again.  It was different at first  as I was a "go here" and "do that" and "get this" as fast as possible player.  My headgame was playing as a Wonder Woman type character.  My roommate called me Super Bitch because of the way I played.  If  you are a quest driven mostly, try it and see.  I'm having fun.  It is a different game now.  It may have helped adding the sex mods and Naked Defeat all at once so it is all new at the same time.  I'm having sex 10-15 times a game day now.  Seems the guys can't get enough.  Who knew Skyrim could be like this.🥰 Definitely not Super Bitch now.  😉 Negatives are those black strapons the girls use.  Really?  On the list to as T about.  Why can't they at least make a realistic looking dildo?  

 

More features:  I'm trying the combat stripping now.  I didn't think I would like it but it turns out it's a personal fav.  I get naked the longer I fight.  @TFor2 suggested some mods for bandit dialogue and the bandits say what they want to do with me while in combat and being naked impacts what they say.  Not sure if they are ND or the other mods comments.  Fun.  Guys may not like this feature but it's sexy for me.  Next for me is trying the outfit tool in ND.  My friend is going to guide me through it at some point.

 

Things to consider maybe.  I don't have animal sex options so I can't speak about that but it's available if you are defeated by them.  Again, more to think about.  Draugers raping me?  Still have to think about that for me but it's there.  Also there are some fun little extras like drinking a potion and getting defeated by a poisoned one.  

 

Coming from vanilla style game, this was all really new to me.  I had a standard plan when I played.  This quest first, this 2nd, on and on.  Now I am learning to stop planning and just play.  Quests of course but seeing the world while I play.  

 

ND has potentially long scenarios when you get defeated.  Or you can disable the extras.  I'm enjoying them.  I stopped the heavy survival mode and use a basic one instead.  I limit my fast travel but can still do it.  ND has a fast travel feature but it needs animals so that is pending.  Anyway, sex is better than worrying about dying from the cold.  My opinion.  

 

If you simply want a mod that saves you from reloading (hate that), ND can do it and why I added it.  Stable and works for me.  Setup required of course.   If you want to add to the "one and done" sex, ND can definitely do that.  Sounds like a test playthrough coming for you.  Maybe....

 

Yesterday I walked into Whiterun completely naked after several fights and getting my outfit destroyed.  I'm a mage so no armor allowed for me and I wanted to craft my outfit.  I actually felt embarrassed.  I mean I personally felt embarrassed.  My little immersion.  I would never play without clothes so it felt it like being in public for real without them.  I might play only with a DD bra and panties but not naked.  Catch you later☺️ 

 

*(DD does not stand for Devious Devices - wink)  Sorry, just playing around.  Typing all this put me in a playful mood.  Have fun...

 

 

PM a time and I can help with the outfits.  Just a thought but probably best to not mention "DD" as you are not using that "mod".  Don't want to confuse anyone.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, TFor2 said:

PM a time and I can help with the outfits.  Just a thought but probably best to not mention "DD" as you are not using that "mod".  Don't want to confuse anyone.

I understand Ms. D.  👈 Anyway, PM on the way.  Please, please - Live stream if you can.    🥰

[Nymra]

17 minutes ago, TeezMe said:

  On the list to as T about.  Why can't they at least make a realistic looking dildo?  

 

I use an SE conversion of Leitos Dildos, but they sadly all missalign (too high), cannot be bent and they also have no collision.
Please link when you find a good strapon mod... I m almost at the point where I make the females all futas lol

 

17 minutes ago, TeezMe said:

Coming from vanilla style game, this was all really new to me.  I had a standard plan when I played.  This quest first, this 2nd, on and on.  Now I am learning to stop planning and just play.  Quests of course but seeing the world while I play.  

 

That is what I like about Naked Defeat, it makes the game interesting in a different way and for me at least and my combat settings even a single bandit dungeon can be challenging. It also adds "survival" feeling without the need for cold and freezing. 
I want to add even more "Tour de skyrim" like stuff, like ambushes, beeing sold to creature locations by a special trader etc.) (animal and creature locations respect the toggles) 

 

17 minutes ago, TeezMe said:

ND has potentially long scenarios when you get defeated.  Or you can disable the extras.  I'm enjoying them.  I stopped the heavy survival mode and use a basic one instead.  I limit my fast travel but can still do it.  ND has a fast travel feature but it needs animals so that is pending.  Anyway, sex is better than worrying about dying from the cold.  My opinion.  

 

if the scenarios get too long and you just want to progress a bit, use "Quest mode" in Debug Wheel (alt + K), its a toggle. With it ON you get only 1 scene in each defeat (sex, whipping, escaping, only one of each and faster breaking free).

 

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ND has a fast travel feature but it needs animals so that is pending. 

 

It doesent. It uses also humanoid creaturs (gargoyles, skeletons and dragonpriests) and it respects your other settings.
If all anmals and creatures are forbidden, the feature uses only human ghosts (also dies the Afterlife)

 

17 minutes ago, TeezMe said:

 

Yesterday I walked into Whiterun completely naked after several fights and getting my outfit destroyed.  I'm a mage so no armor allowed for me and I wanted to craft my outfit.  I actually felt embarrassed.  I mean I personally felt embarrassed.  My little immersion.  I would never play without clothes so it felt it like being in public for real without them.  I might play only with a DD bra and panties but not naked.  Catch you later☺️ 

I play with lots of robbery (50% chance) and robbery even 100% (NymBeta/Nymras World) but also with stripped outfits beeing destroyed.
Sometimes I now desperatly search drawers and shelfs for even basic clothing that fits
and I sometimes leave armors at strategic places to pick up later (but feels like cheating in way without a way to make it get stolen too)

So glad you like the mod  
 

[Talesien]

3 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

haha, yeah, but not until the basic stuff works, no? NO? "duck"

Well, depends how you define that. I actually tend to do the vegetation, interior, exterior, texture and lightning, etc. overhauls first. They usually need a lot of de-conflicting and I prefer to do that before adding to many other mods. Next come quest (extension) mods, extra world spaces, etc., followed by NPC overhauls (each followed by more de-conflicting). Then I add the SKSE, combat, perk, magic overhauls, etc. and if all that works, only THEN do I add the Sexlab stuff (with more de-conflicting).

That stated, it's been a long time since I started completely from scratch.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

I use an SE conversion of Leitos Dildos, but they sadly all missalign (too high), cannot be bent and they also have no collision.
Please link when you find a good strapon mod... I m almost at the point where I make the females all futas lol

 

 

That is what I like about Naked Defeat, it makes the game interesting in a different way and for me at least and my combat settings even a single bandit dungeon can be challenging. It also adds "survival" feeling without the need for cold and freezing. 
I want to add even more "Tour de skyrim" like stuff, like ambushes, beeing sold to creature locations by a special trader etc.) (animal and creature locations respect the toggles) 

 

 

if the scenarios get too long and you just want to progress a bit, use "Quest mode" in Debug Wheel (alt + K), its a toggle. With it ON you get only 1 scene in each defeat (sex, whipping, escaping, only one of each and faster breaking free).

 

 

It doesent. It uses also humanoid creaturs (gargoyles, skeletons and dragonpriests) and it respects your other settings.
If all anmals and creatures are forbidden, the feature uses only human ghosts (also dies the Afterlife)

 

I play with lots of robbery (50% chance) and robbery even 100% (NymBeta/Nymras World) but also with stripped outfits beeing destroyed.
Sometimes I now desperatly search drawers and shelfs for even basic clothing that fits
and I sometimes leave armors at strategic places to pick up later (but feels like cheating in way without a way to make it get stolen too)

So glad you like the mod  
 

Futa - had time to look.  Thank you for the other information.

 

Spoiler

 

[cascen]

19 hours ago, Nymra said:

I felt like it and did a precision compatibility attempt.

 

Snapshot 5.241 Precision Test

 

FULL version, does not require any prior one. 
First attempt on Precision Whipping compatibility.

Requires Precision (obv).
Toggles Weapon Collision on Player and Whipper for the duration of the whipping scene.

 

Please report back how this plays out for you. I dont have precision yet and I spent the night testing some other shit that my inability in abstract logical thinking did not manage to resolve earlier... 

For non precision users:

Fixed Scenarios not beeing selected correctly

Fixed Naked Loot Weapon options not working (nadeConfig)

 

Naked Defeat 5-241 - Snapshot (Precision Test) - (AE + SE).7z 48.64 MB · 18 downloads

hey Nymra i tested with precision this snapshot version,and seems to work about whipos etc,but all the others option doesnt run like public punish etc neither defeat scenario from combat

[Nymra]

12 minutes ago, cascen said:

hey Nymra i tested with precision this snapshot version,and seems to work about whipos etc,but all the others option doesnt run like public punish etc neither defeat scenario from combat

 

you mean whipping works without strange collision issues/missalligning animations?

- did you save your profile folders? If you overwrite your saved profiles some options might be not like you set them before.
- I might be able to do some testing tomorrow, in the meantime: I would like to see a papyurs log from combat and public punishment (walking through town) 
both worked for me flawless

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, TeezMe said:

Futa - had time to look.  Thank you for the other information.

 

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hahaha, I really feel you there. Its hard choice: correctly aligned Futa cocks or badly aligned strapons, duuuh. 
maybe I can fix them in bodyslide... but its really annoying. 

 

if you use extra strap ons, register them to sexlab or they will only use the black one (the option is where you reset the animation registry)

[tonitrulupus]

On 5/30/2021 at 4:03 PM, Nymra said:

 

this mod has nothing to do with naked dungeons anymore. I only use its architecture. 

 

It is meant to replace and vastly expand the Immortality Feature (which was basically Naked Dungeons Defeat).

 

I added so many things that writing the list here would be too time consuming. You can browse the changelogs to get an idea.

Most importantly:

- 5P support for humans

- creature animations groups up to 5P (NDUN only had Creature 2P) 

- better randomness 

- better in between rape scene idles

- completly improved the furniture game, added whipping, made escape a thing, added sounds and effects

- more features in general (whip and rape tattoos integrated, punishment outcomes while in furniture, rape can happen again when you not escape etc.)

etc. etc. 

 

Its fully compatible with NDUN tho, just disable NDUNs immortaility feature. 

and of course this mod is in active development and will continue to receive new features. 

 

So this is more or less the same thing as sexlabs defeat, but improved?

[BigOnes69]

10 hours ago, TeezMe said:

Futa - had time to look.  Thank you for the other information.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

There is a mod SOS futanari. 

[Nymra]

6 hours ago, tonitrulupus said:

So this is more or less the same thing as sexlabs defeat, but improved?

 

no. 
Its a bit different than that, at his point Naked Defeat only has a small similarity to SL Defeat

SL Defeat has PC rapes NPC, NPC rapes NPC and NPC rapes PC. 

Naked Defeat only covers the last part.

If you are in combat and get hit or enter bleedout, Naked Defeat starts its rape scenario, finding spot before rape, different coherend and immersive scenarios, furniture escape game. 

Also Naked Defeat offers alot that SL Defeat does not.
Potion system, Outfit system, slavery outcome, 

SL defeat supports DD items I think, Naked Defeat currently not, but its worked on

Edited April 9, 2025 by Nymra

[tonitrulupus]

2 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

no. 
Its a bit different than that, at his point Naked Defeat only has a small similarity to SL Defeat

SL Defeat has PC rapes NPC, NPC rapes NPC and NPC rapes PC. 

Naked Defeat only covers the last part.

If you are in combat and get hit or enter bleedout, Naked Defeat starts its rape scenario, finding spot before rape, different coherend and immersive scenarios, furniture escape game. 

Also Naked Defeat offers alot that SL Defeat does not.
Potion system, Outfit system, slavery outcome, 

SL defeat supports DD items I think, Naked Defeat currently not, but its worked on

So, it acts more like an upgrade or an addon, adding "new" different features then it is a replacement for SL defeat

[Nymra]

9 minutes ago, tonitrulupus said:

So, it acts more like an upgrade or an addon, adding "new" different features then it is a replacement for SL defeat

 

you can use both mods together and use their "best" features to your liking.

Just disable "NPC rapes Player" in SL Defeat since both features will conflict.

 

In general I dont suggest using the mods together since there are so many versions and settings that player might still be able to fuck it up. Basically its all down to adjusting MCMs correctly.

Naked Defeat is meant to be a replacement for all "Player is defeated by NPC -> Player gets fucked by NPC" features of other mods. 
It was never meant to make those mods entiely obsolete (apart from maybe Sexlab Submit, which does almost the same but with very limited variety)

Edited April 9, 2025 by Nymra

[shizachan]

Hi! Two questions:

 

I see SL Aroused is listed as a requirement, is SL Aroused Creatures required for the mod to work on creatures?

 

Does the esp need to stay Form 43 or can it be resaved as Form 44?

[Nymra]

21 minutes ago, shizachan said:

Hi! Two questions:

 

I see SL Aroused is listed as a requirement, is SL Aroused Creatures required for the mod to work on creatures?

 

SL Aroused Creatures has nothing to do with Naked Defeat nor with SL Aroused. 

 

21 minutes ago, shizachan said:

Does the esp need to stay Form 43 or can it be resaved as Form 44?

 

you can save it as Form 44, ppl did it before. 
I also dont mind you sharing it here, just write the version number to it (ideally use the latest snapshot).
I m currently making lots of changes to the ESP, but if its no trouble for you you can resave it as Form 44 each time.

I would continue with Form 44 if there are no drawbacks. (to date I did not receive any reports)

[VenusTrifecta]

I went to try and download the ZaZ 8 3BA from the link and it made my screen turn black for a few seconds. I have never started a virus scan faster in my life. Wtf is that website???

[Talesien]

10 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

SL Aroused Creatures has nothing to do with Naked Defeat nor with SL Aroused. 

 

 

you can save it as Form 44, ppl did it before. 
I also dont mind you sharing it here, just write the version number to it (ideally use the latest snapshot).
I m currently making lots of changes to the ESP, but if its no trouble for you you can resave it as Form 44 each time.

I would continue with Form 44 if there are no drawbacks. (to date I did not receive any reports)

https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/17086-form-4344-and-you/

Never checked if ND contains any of the mentioned headers. Given the form 43 did not cause any problems in SE, converting it is even less likely to do so. (But then you trust a Bethesda made program to automatically do something right ... up to you if you are prepared for that leap of faith. 😛)

[Nymra]

Just now, ShadowofVenus said:

I went to try and download the ZaZ 8 3BA from the link and it made my screen turn black for a few seconds. I have never started a virus scan faster in my life. Wtf is that website???

 

hmm, modfire. I saw that used on other mods too. 
My Bitdefender had no problems with it, but I m also using an AdBlocker. 
Without that sometimes the ad links trigger warnings.

 

 

[Nymra]

1 minute ago, Talesien said:

https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/17086-form-4344-and-you/

Never checked if ND contains any of the mentioned headers. Given the form 43 did not cause any problems in SE, converting it is even less likely to do so. (But then you trust a Bethesda made program to automatically do something right ... up to you if you are prepared for that leap of faith. 😛)

I think I already checked that, we had that topic a while ago. 
But I have more pressing issues at hand and yeah, no time for a "leap of faith"

[VenusTrifecta]

8 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

hmm, modfire. I saw that used on other mods too. 
My Bitdefender had no problems with it, but I m also using an AdBlocker. 
Without that sometimes the ad links trigger warnings.

 

 

Yep, adblocker worked. Scared the piss out of me when it did that lmao. I didn't even click any of the ads when I first tried, so no clue when even happened.

[Talesien]

3 minutes ago, ShadowofVenus said:

I went to try and download the ZaZ 8 3BA from the link and it made my screen turn black for a few seconds. I have never started a virus scan faster in my life. Wtf is that website???

What you failed to mention is if the scan turned up anything. At any rate punctuation characters are not pack animals.
More seriously I've not heard that particular DL is problematic, but I was a bit hesitant to install something marked for Enderal on my regular Skyrim install, so I went with the Bodyslides from the ZAZ support thread: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/100381-zaz-animation-packs-for-se/page/13/#comment-2919622
Needs this fix: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/100381-zaz-animation-packs-for-se/page/38/#comment-4251301

 

[VenusTrifecta]

2 minutes ago, Talesien said:

What you failed to mention is if the scan turned up anything. At any rate punctuation characters are not pack animals.
More seriously I've not heard that particular DL is problematic, but I was a bit hesitant to install something marked for Enderal on my regular Skyrim install, so I went with the Bodyslides from the ZAZ support thread: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/100381-zaz-animation-packs-for-se/page/13/#comment-2919622
Needs this fix: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/100381-zaz-animation-packs-for-se/page/38/#comment-4251301

 

I panicked and typed that immediately after all that happened. Never had my screen turn black like that. Scan showed nothing, you may point and laugh at my stupidity.

[Talesien]

4 minutes ago, ShadowofVenus said:

I panicked and typed that immediately after all that happened. Never had my screen turn black like that. Scan showed nothing, you may point and laugh at my stupidity.

Lucky you but you are not wrong, it's better to be safe then sorry. Even if I don't believe in snakeoil (aka virus scanners). My personal approach is more to do about everything (inlcuding Windumb for Skyrim) in a VirtualMachine (which gets backed up regularly). So the damage is never to great if something goes wrong. (Aka No Backup - no compassion. Trust me the people working here know that mantra by now. ^^)

[Nymra]

16 minutes ago, Talesien said:

What you failed to mention is if the scan turned up anything. At any rate punctuation characters are not pack animals.
More seriously I've not heard that particular DL is problematic, but I was a bit hesitant to install something marked for Enderal on my regular Skyrim install, so I went with the Bodyslides from the ZAZ support thread: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/100381-zaz-animation-packs-for-se/page/13/#comment-2919622
Needs this fix: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/100381-zaz-animation-packs-for-se/page/38/#comment-4251301

 

 

I ll add it to the download links.
I compared both ESPs and Scripts and there seem to be only some changes to the attack anims from ZaZ and I never noticed anything weird. 
I tried to test the broken anims (water wheels, rope down, sacrificial pillars and some others) and they did not work on both versions. 

 

22 minutes ago, ShadowofVenus said:

Yep, adblocker worked. Scared the piss out of me when it did that lmao. I didn't even click any of the ads when I first tried, so no clue when even happened.

 

happened to me with loverslab itself too. 

 

Edited April 10, 2025 by Nymra