Naked Defeat AE/SE

[Nymra]

47 minutes ago, TeezMe said:

 @Nymra Who knew that draugers and falmers were considered animals.  I think being punished by them is lore appropriate for me so I will work on this.  @TFor2 may ask you about what I need to get creatures to work for them. PM is ok.?  Thanks.   💞

 

I agree 
its more a technical thing. Creatures and Animals are all treated equally in Sexlab and its functions, hence this "generalization" 
From a players perspective this makes no sense at all.

 

I will make a note to seperate the toggles into "Allow Animals" and "Allow Humanoid Creatures" 
In the end the existence of the individual creautre toggles in naked defeat is very detailled and should already fix the "problem". 

[Nymra]

Snapshot 5.24 - Public Punishment Fix

 

Update Steps:

REQUIRED >> DISABLE MOD in MCM [ ] > Wait 5 seconds > ENABLE MOD [X] > Save & Reload

NOT required >> reRun FNIS

NOT required >> import and register new Nymra SLATE actions (except when you update from 5.2)

 

PUBLIC PUNISHMENT

- Rewrote huge parts of the script since it contained too many locial errors

- Fixed wrong conditions in ESP that prevented actors from beeing used in the quest

- Better messages and Papyrus Log Output (actors names etc.)
 

thx @leakim for pointing this out 

 

TESTING PUBLIC PUNISHMENT

Set Loop Timer to 8-10 seconds

Set all "punishables" chances high and Public Punishment DEFEAT chance low. 

Try to behave at first (fully clothed, not dirty etc.) so that you can walk around without issues. 
Enable Info Messages 
You should now be able to see and track how actors (by name) see you, from which angle and distance.
You can double check everything in the papyrus.0.log

 

@WillyWanker9 
forgot to fix your issue. Tomorrow... thx for reporting

 

Naked Defeat 5-24 - Snapshot (Public Punishment Fix) - (AE + SE).7z

Edited April 7, 2025 by Nymra

[leakim]

6 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

you get errors that I dont get.

 

please try this:
Disable MOD in MCM
Wait 1 min
Enable Mod in MCM
Save
Reload
try again.
I m also on it at the moment. 

 

Could you tell me which errors (from your mod) that I should not be seeing?

 

This is basically from a completely "new" game, where I only just installed Naked Defeat.

 => "new" in the sense that I have installed and prepared basically every mod except Naked Defeat -- so I simply add Naked Defeat in, in the Alternative Start cell.

[Nymra]

6 hours ago, leakim said:

 

Could you tell me which errors (from your mod) that I should not be seeing?

 

This is basically from a completely "new" game, where I only just installed Naked Defeat.

 => "new" in the sense that I have installed and prepared basically every mod except Naked Defeat -- so I simply add Naked Defeat in, in the Alternative Start cell.

 

I just had the suspicion that your Player Monitor was stuck in an "old" version of the mod. 
Anyways, its all not relevant anymore since I found the two issues that caused your issues and fixed them in the 5.24 Snapshot. If you test anything, please use that version. 
 

[zh1023700559]

Hi! You wrote in "hard requirement": ZaZ 8+ with CBBE and UUNP and ZaZ 8+ with 3BA bodyslide versions of ZAZ 8+. Do not use any other version (6.XX, 7.XX, 9.XX).

Should I download both of them when using CBBE 3BA? The latter one is attached to a file named "ZaZ Animation Pack 3BA V.8.0Enderal SE", seems to work with Enderal instead of Skyrim.

[Nymra]

47 minutes ago, zh1023700559 said:

Hi! You wrote in "hard requirement": ZaZ 8+ with CBBE and UUNP and ZaZ 8+ with 3BA bodyslide versions of ZAZ 8+. Do not use any other version (6.XX, 7.XX, 9.XX).

Should I download both of them when using CBBE 3BA? The latter one is attached to a file named "ZaZ Animation Pack 3BA V.8.0Enderal SE", seems to work with Enderal instead of Skyrim.

 

I use the enderal version without issues. it was the only one with bodyslide for 3BA

the files I checked were identical with the other Zaz 8+ 
if any issues arise, feel free to report back. I have not found any. 
THere is an issue with missaligned furniture animations but that seemed to be a Naked Defeat internal script problem.

EDIT:
but thx for pointing this out, I was just eager for the 3BA files. 
I ll look deeper into this and update the description if necessary.

when in doubt, it should work to only use the bodyslide files of the download together with the ESP and other files from Normal ZAZ 8+

Edited April 7, 2025 by Nymra

[Nymra]

BETA Tester needed

 

Im very busy right now, so if anybody is willing to help:

 

IMPORANT: Make sure you do NOT have the Zaz 8+ 3BA Enderal version but any other.

 

1. Download the Patch
2. Enable Naked Defeat NymBeta in MCM -> System

3. Press Action Key (standard is "K" that changes hairstyles) outside of combat

---> this spawns a "Rope Down" Furniture from Zaz
4. Use the Furniture (activate it)

5. Check the pose. Is it correct (character hanging tight in the rope) or is it a different pose (for me it is the "RACK" Pose 

 

Please report back your findings here (which ZaZ Version you use and what the outcome in 5. is.

 

Patch has to be removed afterwards. So make a new save for this. Its not harmful to use, it only adds that small add furniture script to the K when NymBETA is on

 

(I try to find out of the wrong ZaZ Poses in furnitures are Pandora or ZaZ Problem) 

UPDATE:
I think its a Pandora Issue.
So if anybody has FNIS or FNIS+Nemesis, this would also be helpful. I will exclude the broken furnitures for now. There is no way to detect Pandora installed or not at the moment sadly. 

 

Naked Defeat Test Patch ZaZ.7z

Edited April 7, 2025 by Nymra

[cascen]

hello Nymra,is it possible to add a compatibilty with precision,itz a must have combat mod,i sees when u get whipped happend weird behavios with character,and whip is out of box hits.

[Nymra]

1 minute ago, cascen said:

hello Nymra,is it possible to add a compatibilty with precision,itz a must have combat mod,i sees when u get whipped happend weird behavios with character,and whip is out of box hits.

 

its on my to do list 

[i_want_death]

For some reason it takes really long for the sex to actually start? like after crawling my character goes into an animation with her hands behind her head, then it switches to another random one, then it takes like 30-60 seconds for the sex to actually start??? idk what could be causing this

i also cant load while this is happening so idk if that helps

[Shalkerc]

I am looking at this mod to maybe replace bakafactories defeat mod since I cleaned out my mod list to try and optimize my game better by not downloading as many unneseccary mods, is this mod a good replacement for that defeat mod? Just curious.

[Talesien]

19 minutes ago, i_want_death said:

For some reason it takes really long for the sex to actually start? like after crawling my character goes into an animation with her hands behind her head, then it switches to another random one, then it takes like 30-60 seconds for the sex to actually start??? idk what could be causing this

i also cant load while this is happening so idk if that helps

That's probably mostly on SexLab, unless your SexLab scenes tend to start notably quicker outside of any NaDe context.
Otherwise you can try https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/77779 with the Speedup Native Calls option enabled. (Yes it's still marked as experimental, but it is safe to use by now). Alternately (or in addition) you could try Osmels SexLab Utility Plus: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/10316-osmelmc-mod-tweaks/
Finally reducing the numbers of animations can also speed it up some.

 

[Talesien]

15 minutes ago, Shalkerc said:

I am looking at this mod to maybe replace bakafactories defeat mod since I cleaned out my mod list to try and optimize my game better by not downloading as many unneseccary mods, is this mod a good replacement for that defeat mod? Just curious.

Depends on what you want, it is a good alternative if you are looking for a DeathAlternative/Player Defeat mod. Unlike Defeat it does not facilitate any Player vs. NPC or NPC vs. NPC action though. So if you are looking for that, NaDe would be the wrong mod.

Edited April 8, 2025 by Talesien

[Nymra]

53 minutes ago, i_want_death said:

For some reason it takes really long for the sex to actually start? like after crawling my character goes into an animation with her hands behind her head, then it switches to another random one, then it takes like 30-60 seconds for the sex to actually start??? idk what could be causing this

i also cant load while this is happening so idk if that helps

 

if you have problems in the future, please upload a papyrus.0.log

 

in this case it seems sometimes the mod fails to place the "Watchers" around you during Forced Bathing / Golden Showers.

Because that is what happens there. It happened to me but I cannot find the cause of it. 
In other words: known bug. If its annoying, disable Bathing in nadeConfig.json and set Golden Showers to 0% until I fix it. 

[Nymra]

2 hours ago, i_want_death said:

For some reason it takes really long for the sex to actually start? like after crawling my character goes into an animation with her hands behind her head, then it switches to another random one, then it takes like 30-60 seconds for the sex to actually start??? idk what could be causing this

i also cant load while this is happening so idk if that helps

I felt like it and did a precision compatibility attempt.

 

Snapshot 5.241 Precision Test

 

FULL version, does not require any prior one. 
First attempt on Precision Whipping compatibility.

Requires Precision (obv).
Toggles Weapon Collision on Player and Whipper for the duration of the whipping scene.

 

Please report back how this plays out for you. I dont have precision yet and I spent the night testing some other shit that my inability in abstract logical thinking did not manage to resolve earlier... 

For non precision users:

Fixed Scenarios not beeing selected correctly

Fixed Naked Loot Weapon options not working (nadeConfig)

 

Naked Defeat 5-241 - Snapshot (Precision Test) - (AE + SE).7z

Edited April 8, 2025 by Nymra

[Cunning_Linguist]

Very much enjoying your mod, though of course I'm here because of an issue or three...

 

First

FNIS "consistency check" yields the following:

 

Quote

Duplicate AnimEvent nade_IdlesDefeatUnbound_01 for character, mods NakedDefeat and NakedDefeat
Duplicate AnimEvent nade_IdlesDefeatUnbound_02 for character, mods NakedDefeat and NakedDefeat
 2 possible consistence issues

 

That's just an FYI for you; doesn't appear to affect gameplay.

 

 

Second

SL Defeat has an option to initiate consensual sex with (almost) any NPC.  Any thoughts on adding such a thing to ND?  Don't forget creatures.

 

 

Third

I'm doing a naked playthru, and having trouble with the "Hit when naked" feature.  I've tried "0" and other low numbers, but it seems every time I get hit the defeat triggers.

 

Any thoughts on that?

 

Perhaps a simple option to disable this function?

 

Otherwise

Rushing off to enjoy your mod some more....

 

[Nymra]

15 minutes ago, Cunning_Linguist said:

Very much enjoying your mod, though of course I'm here because of an issue or three...

 

First

FNIS "consistency check" yields the following:

 

 

That's just an FYI for you; doesn't appear to affect gameplay.

 

harmless

 

15 minutes ago, Cunning_Linguist said:

Second

SL Defeat has an option to initiate consensual sex with (almost) any NPC.  Any thoughts on adding such a thing to ND?  Don't forget creatures.

 

I am adding a Prostitution feature. 
but for what you are looking, this is not the mod. 
There are dozens of mod out there that cover this up. 

For Creatures: sexlab aroused creatures is not compatible with Naked Defeat.

 

15 minutes ago, Cunning_Linguist said:

 

Third

I'm doing a naked playthru, and having trouble with the "Hit when naked" feature.  I've tried "0" and other low numbers, but it seems every time I get hit the defeat triggers.

 

Any thoughts on that?

 

Perhaps a simple option to disable this function?

 

1. Try latest Snapshot. (5.241 from the Thread)
2. Upload a Papyrus Log of when that happens. I can not reproduce this feature. It is already possible to disable it. 
Try setting "Defeat Chance (On Naked Hit) to 0% and all other settings in combat defeat too. 
If it happens again, please upload a papyrus.0.log or I can do nothing .( 

 

15 minutes ago, Cunning_Linguist said:

 

Otherwise

Rushing off to enjoy your mod some more....

 

❤️

 

 

Edited April 8, 2025 by Nymra

[Cunning_Linguist]

53 minutes ago, Nymra said:

For Creatures: sexlab aroused creatures is not compatible with Naked Defeat.

Could you expand on that. please?

 

I'm using OSLAroused, if that's the sort of thing you're talking about...

 

Am I good, or have I misunderstood you?

[Cunning_Linguist]

Hey folks,

 

Not strictly the right forum to ask, but I figure y'all are the right crowd most likely to know the answer.

 

None of my creatures have dongs.  Humans didn't either until I added The New Gentleman.  OSLAroused works very well with them.

 

Anyone have suggestions on how to endow my creatures?

[Nymra]

5 minutes ago, Cunning_Linguist said:

Could you expand on that. please?

 

I'm using OSLAroused, if that's the sort of thing you're talking about...

 

Am I good, or have I misunderstood you?

 

OSL aroused is exlicitly mentioned as hard requirement .)

Sexlab Aroused Creatures is a whole different mod, please use google.
Its also compatible with naked defeat as of SL aroused creatures latest version 

[Nymra]

3 minutes ago, Cunning_Linguist said:

Hey folks,

 

Not strictly the right forum to ask, but I figure y'all are the right crowd most likely to know the answer.

 

None of my creatures have dongs.  Humans didn't either until I added The New Gentleman.  OSLAroused works very well with them.

 

Anyone have suggestions on how to endow my creatures?

Check out the Sex Mods spoiler in second post of this thread. 
But I suggest going step by step from zero, maybe just skip the 1000 environment and texture mods ^^

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/200681-skyrim-ae-for-beginners-v-2915-3ba-hdt-smp-hph-wip/

[Talesien]

36 minutes ago, Nymra said:

But I suggest going step by step from zero, maybe just skip the 1000 environment and texture mods ^^

Wut? But, but I need my Skyrim pretty. 😛

[Nymra]

11 minutes ago, Talesien said:

Wut? But, but I need my Skyrim pretty. 😛

 

haha, yeah, but not until the basic stuff works, no? NO? "duck"

[Cunning_Linguist]

1 hour ago, Nymra said:

Check out the Sex Mods spoiler in second post of this thread. 
But I suggest going step by step from zero, maybe just skip the 1000 environment and texture mods ^^

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/200681-skyrim-ae-for-beginners-v-2915-3ba-hdt-smp-hph-wip/

 

Second post is blank for me.  Just two blue divider lines, and blank space in between.

 

In fact, I have been wroking on this for days, running into mods that irretrievably break Skyrim (Read: beyond my knowledge to fix).  I am presently running from a clean 1.6.1170 AE install, with the Sexlabs bare bones requirements, Naked Defeat bare bones requirements (but by the time the requirements have THEIR requirements....).

 

I added a few of your recommendations.... then tested.  Working but not a dong in sight.  Added TNG.  Now men have dongs, but still all creatures are neuter.

 

I'll RTFM (thanks for that link, btw) and see if I can figure it out.

[Nymra]

44 minutes ago, Cunning_Linguist said:

 

Second post is blank for me.  Just two blue divider lines, and blank space in between.

 

In fact, I have been wroking on this for days, running into mods that irretrievably break Skyrim (Read: beyond my knowledge to fix).  I am presently running from a clean 1.6.1170 AE install, with the Sexlabs bare bones requirements, Naked Defeat bare bones requirements (but by the time the requirements have THEIR requirements....).

 

I added a few of your recommendations.... then tested.  Working but not a dong in sight.  Added TNG.  Now men have dongs, but still all creatures are neuter.

 

I'll RTFM (thanks for that link, btw) and see if I can figure it out.

 

direct link to the post.

I guess you are just missing the whole More Nasty Critters environment.