Naked Defeat AE/SE

[kantoboii]

1 hour ago, Nymra said:

 

papyrus log usually dont give much away...

camera breaks for me nonstop, its just skyrim and I know how to fix it. 

 

workbench is usually a 100% fix. 

in my debug you can add a workbench via hotkey, use it, despawn and go on...

 

but in general there are mods that break camera more likely than others and over the years I removed most of them....

most mods should do "Player.SheathWeapon()" before playing any idles... 

 

all I can say its most likely not a problem caused by Naked Defeat.

No I also don't think it's Naked Defeat! It's probably indeed something else. Found one of the problems was Animated Eating (of all things) - it also uses K to enable the flycam, and I think that goofed up ALL sorts of things with when SL triggers it and stuff like that. So it's working BETTER now, still a couple more things to figure out. I think the SHIFT key has a conflict somewhere now (can't play the washing animations, some of the other modifier stuff doesn't work), gotta hunt that down...

[Nymra]

28 minutes ago, sierrra said:

 

You are incredible !

 

I've done a bit more testing, and spoken to the PDA author who had this to say:

 

What he suggested DOES seem to work (manual surrender & strip surrender) after setting player to non-essential via console command.'

 

yeah, not a good fix but a working one. 

 

28 minutes ago, sierrra said:

Other quick things I've found:

 

- Enabling beta features greatly reduces wait time and increases consistency with Naked Defeat stages

 

this is unlikely. there is nothing that works different in the BETA features than with the rest in that regard.

will still investigate, maybe something was broke in a testrun earlier this year. 

 

 

28 minutes ago, sierrra said:

- Crawling timer will get stuck often, opening console fixes this

 

there is no crawling timer. crawling can only be ended with pressing "K". dunno what console fixes here. it shoulndt do anything

 

28 minutes ago, sierrra said:

Honestly even with this fix and testing more, I've found the Naked Defeat stages are just super inconsistent with starting/stopping, and I assume that's because of PDA. I'll wait for some more updates 🙂 You and the PDA author should definitely collaborate though !!!

 

 

if it is inconsistent other mods intervene or something broke. 
I cannot work with such information at all. I need a papyrus log and you need to tell me what exactly was "inconsistent"

I also suggest enably "LagFix" in MCM System. 

 

[Guest]

I have a standard fix for a  stuck camera that has been 100% effective for me since I found it.  I have tried the chair fix, crafting fix, etc. but this works for me.  Whenever the camera locks during an animation, I wait until any animation is completed and then use Bathing in Skyrim.  I hotkey a standard bathing animation and control returns every time after the bathing animation completes.  (hotkey)  I don't use BIS for dirt accumulation like it is designed, just for the fix.  This may not help anyone but it works for me.   Every time.  

Edited September 7, 2024 by TFor2
Discomfort

[Frank_BR]

 

When Execution its already done? 😍

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, Frank_BR said:

 

When Execution its already done? 😍

 

hehe, should work, yeah, but only getting executred diretctly, (no sex before).
later its also an aftermath and a possible outcome of the struggle game

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, Nymra said:

NAKED DEFEAT VERSION 4.95.4 – HOTFIX PATCH (SE+LE)

 

Overwrite last patch (do not uninstall it)

should work without any further actions (no load/save/enable/disable)

no fnis, etc. 

 

CRITICAL BUGFIX

- Naked Falling could enable itself… should be fixed for good now.

→ MAKE SURE TO SET YOUR MCM VALUE AGAIN, it was set to 0 by script accidently

 

BUGFIXES

- fixed some bugs with the OnItemEquiped triggering on strange invisible items from different mods (added a check to prevent most of that.)

- fixed a bug of the Naked Curse not stripping the Player

- fixed a bug of the Naked Curse could cause and endless loop (with the invisible items mentioned beforehand)

- fixed a bug with how sprinting was detected for public punishment

- fixed a bug of looting a helmet/boot etc. to be stripped of all other stuff

- fixed some bugs with scenarios playing scenes they are not supposed to play

- fixed some bugs with wrong poses beeing played

- fixed afterlife scenario affecting following scenarios

- fixed „find spot“ allowed when enslaved

 

BUKKAKE critical bug fixed

Bukkake could lead to the mod beeing stuck (required reload).

Works now!

 

PUBLIC PUNISHMENT CHANGES

Added Save places that reset exposure and dont trigger punishment:

- Temples

- Player Homes

 

Added a warning message „You feel uneasy“. This means you are watched now and the next time you will not be warned but punished.

Means this might be a good time to look for a save place or an empty alley

All other warning messages removed for now.

Punishment for major crimes is excluded frome this!

 

 

ROBBERY changes

NOTE: Bandits robbed 100% of the time in the past This was changed to „MCM value x3“ instead.

So if you set Robbery to 5% in MCM robbers will have 15% chance.

- There are five robbery quests now that can run alongside each other instead of 5.

- if you get robbed a sixth time before you can get any of your other stuff back, the first quest is overwritten. IMPORTANT: only the questmarker is removed, the NPC still has your gear. Its just harder to track him down.

Future plans: DEBUG return stuff button in MCM

 

NAKED POTION CHANGES

- Potions have a hidden strength value now in addition to their greater duration time. Weak potions grant a 55% protection from CriticalHit/StrippingHit, Medium grant 75% and the best potions grant 95% protection.

- Stamina potions now add protection chance from stripping hits (instead of magicka potions)

- Magicka potions now ONLY work when you already have an active effect (either of them) and then add the missing effect. So if you drink a magicka potion it has no effect of its own (aside from the vanilla one). But if you already have a health potion effect, it will add a stamina potion effect and vise versa.

Now all three major potions types are „supported“.

More detailled plans in the future, including eating, drinking, alohol and scooma.

 

Potions that add Health Effects:

Regenerate Health, Fortify Health, Restore Health

 

Potions that add Stamina Effects:

Regenerate Stamina, Fortify Stamina, Restore Stamina

 

Potions that add the currently missing Effects:

Regenerate Magicka, Fortify Magicka, Restore Magicka

Naked Defeat 4-95-4 - HOTIFX Patch - (LE+SE).7z 452.96 kB · 1 download

 

in case anybody misses this...

 

Hotfix for Jump and Bukkake bug.

 

[nudele]

i downloaded the latest patch and made it overwrite the  full version now its the correct version but when i activate the mod from mcm save and reload the save becomes corrupted

 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, nudele said:

i downloaded the latest patch and made it overwrite the  full version now its the correct version but when i activate the mod from mcm save and reload the save becomes corrupted

 

Just sharing that I plan to test later today.  I think you need the full version +patch, latest update + hotfix patch.  This is what I will be testing.

[Frank_BR]

8 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

hehe, should work, yeah, but only getting executred diretctly, (no sex before).
later its also an aftermath and a possible outcome of the struggle game

Are you planning like Violate from Fallout 4? After fucking your character will have an execution with the
 Proxy animations and choose between being sent after defeat or game recovery?

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, Frank_BR said:

Are you planning like Violate from Fallout 4? After fucking your character will have an execution with the
 Proxy animations and choose between being sent after defeat or game recovery?

 

I did not play Fallout (yet)

currently there will be no death and reload, I need to rework some other stuff for that.

 

with the last Hotfix (where I am building the feature) if you set 100% chance you always get either Proxy Impaled or my Nymra Gallows death scene, then sent to afterlife, then resuced.

next I add killing on aftermath (after sex) and killed during escape game (whipped/electrocuted/burned to death. etc.

 

but as I said, you will just get an afterlife "experience", no skyrim game death reload. (Which will still be an option in the future)

 

Edited September 7, 2024 by Nymra

[gamer098]

Do the new scenarios require DDe at all? I tested them but my PC just stood there. I haven't tried the latest patch, sounds like it might help.

[Nymra]

2 hours ago, gamer098 said:

Do the new scenarios require DDe at all? I tested them but my PC just stood there. I haven't tried the latest patch, sounds like it might help.

 

???
"them" is 12 different scenarios. might be you lacked an animation or had a broken one. DDe has nothing to do with scenarios at all atm, nor has the latest patch. 

 

set scenario chance to 100%. if something goes wrong, report back, decribe the issue and upload a papyrus.log file. 

EDIT ( wrong link) 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/articles/368

 

Edited September 7, 2024 by Nymra

[kantoboii]

22 hours ago, TFor2 said:

I have a standard fix for a  stuck camera that has been 100% effective for me since I found it.  I have tried the chair fix, crafting fix, etc. but this works for me.  Whenever the camera locks during an animation, I wait until any animation is completed and then use Bathing in Skyrim.  I hotkey a standard bathing animation and control returns every time after the bathing animation completes.  (hotkey)  I don't use BIS for dirt accumulation like it is designed, just for the fix.  This may not help anyone but it works for me.   Every time.  

I'll keep that in mind, thanks for the tip!

 

Did another round of digging/researching/making sure right versions of things were installed/etc. today and I think I got everything working well! Well enough anyway. I think the issue was 1) Animated Eating overtaking one of the hotkeys, triggering the freecam, and 2) I had two versions of ConsoleUtils installed, and I only needed the one for AE. Everything seems much better after step 2 particularly. Still having some issues with something holding on to the Shift key when I press it, so running is kinda funny, but that's easier to work around. On much better ground now!

[Frank_BR]

5 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

???
"them" is 12 different scenarios. might be you lacked an animation or had a broken one. DDe has nothing to do with scenarios at all atm, nor has the latest patch. 

 

set scenario chance to 100%. if something goes wrong, report back, decribe the issue and upload a papyrus.log file. 

EDIT ( wrong link) 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/articles/368

 

I forgot to give feedback regarding the robbery function.😑
The problem was partially resolved. Right after the sex scene the thief steals your items 
and the quest is triggered (my items disappear from the inventory as before).
 But in the rescue function he doesn't steal your items
and you appear naked somewhere with all not equiped the items.(I don't know if it's intentional, as I
've never used this mode before.) 😃
Escape game and scenario event returned an old bug where you become invincible after you escape. 
Previously it only happened if you loaded in the middle of the animations.

Now I need to save the game, exit to the desktop and reload the save game to working life again.

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

Edited September 8, 2024 by Frank_BR

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, Frank_BR said:

I forgot to give feedback regarding the robbery function.😑
The problem was partially resolved. Right after the sex scene the thief steals your items 
and the quest is triggered (my items disappear from the inventory as before).
 But in the rescue function he doesn't steal your items
and you appear naked somewhere with all not equiped the items.(I don't know if it's intentional, as I
've never used this mode before.) 😃

 

The resuce features and the robbery feature are seperate from each other. you can be robbed and rescued later, or not robbed and still rescued.

I wont change much there, since it will be impossible to account for all playstyles, so immersion is priority here.

 

Rescue is "luck" and drops you somewhere instead of selling as slave. the only "punishment" is that you have to get back from where you were rescued if you want to continue.

 

I will add additional details to rescue tho, sometimes there will be a short sex scene or other minor "surprises."
 

in addition there will be a "dumped" outcome for some scenarios where you wake up in the sewers, warrens or other "garbage" areas, fucked by skeevers or beggars (or both ^^)

I have alot of ideas to make sure that you never know where you wake up next ^^

 

 

1 hour ago, Frank_BR said:

Escape game and scenario event returned an old bug where you become invincible after you escape. 
Previously it only happened if you loaded in the middle of the animations.

Now I need to save the game, exit to the desktop and reload the save game to working life again.

 

 

did you try "tgm" in console to see if it fixes it?
if that is not the issue, look at your stats if your health is like 100k....

 

I ll adress both those (possible) issues in the final patch anyway, was reported before.

[erynyes]

thanks for the hotfix patch Nymra!

[Sirschlongslinger69]

Is there a patch for 1.66 sexlab version / AE build 1.6.1170*?

 

Game CTD's after bethesda drums and I'm thinking thats it

Edited September 8, 2024 by Sirschlongslinger69

[Guest]

I'm curious if anyone uses 3rd person during sexlab animations.  I've always used 1st person for realism (immersive first person camera).  I've seen the 3rd person of course but my imagination can't "feel" the sex like 1st person.  If 3rd person is better overall, would appreciate an opinion.  Considering it.

[Nymra]

5 hours ago, Sirschlongslinger69 said:

Is there a patch for 1.66 sexlab version / AE build 1.6.1170*?

 

Game CTD's after bethesda drums and I'm thinking thats it

 

thinking is not knowing.

you need to try with a different sexlab version or similar to really make an educated guess. 
a CTD at that point of the game is usually just tied to your ModLoad, especially animation count.

my skyrim sometimes crashed 5 times in a row. sometimes I have to restard. And I use all the fixes and patches there are for FNIS count (I currently run almost twice the animation count that usually causes a guaranteed CTD.

Edited September 8, 2024 by Nymra

[Nymra]

2 hours ago, TFor2 said:

I'm curious if anyone uses 3rd person during sexlab animations.  I've always used 1st person for realism (immersive first person camera).  I've seen the 3rd person of course but my imagination can't "feel" the sex like 1st person.  If 3rd person is better overall, would appreciate an opinion.  Considering it.

 

depends. im 99% third person, but sometimes like to fast switch via hotkey.

I change camera angles alot, might be due to my adventures in movie making during my studies... 

 

I also have hotkeys for camera angle, making it wider or narrow, depending on the situation.

first person is very often just looking at pixels or even inside of characters

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

depends. im 99% third person, but sometimes like to fast switch via hotkey.

I change camera angles alot, might be due to my adventures in movie making during my studies... 

 

I also have hotkeys for camera angle, making it wider or narrow, depending on the situation.

first person is very often just looking at pixels or even inside of characters

Hope you didn't film me.  Ha.  With my camera setup, most of the time it is the eyes of the PC.  I can look around, at my breasts, arms, and see everything such as during oral animations. This is the main reason I stay with it. It is not perfect but but I try to stay with a perspective once an animation begins.  May look at different views but imagination is more interesting to experience in game to me.  Will consider the hot key angle options.  My roommate who set this up for me didn't tell me about that option.  Thank you for the thoughts and ideas.💘

[Talesien]

Encountered a new problem with Robbery (now doesn't that make you happy? ^^).
Got robbed by an essential actor. Technically no problem, I go to him talk to him, quest says I retrieved my belonging from him and ends ... only problem is, I didn't. The bugger still has all my stuff in his inventory.
(Also makes me wonder how are hostile essential actors handled? Yes, not a common occurrence, but there are some, most become non-essential eventually, but that might getting to a certain point in this or that questline.)

[Nymra]

27 minutes ago, Talesien said:

Encountered a new problem with Robbery (now doesn't that make you happy? ^^).
Got robbed by an essential actor. Technically no problem, I go to him talk to him, quest says I retrieved my belonging from him and ends ... only problem is, I didn't. The bugger still has all my stuff in his inventory.
(Also makes me wonder how are hostile essential actors handled? Yes, not a common occurrence, but there are some, most become non-essential eventually, but that might getting to a certain point in this or that questline.)

 

hmm, have to check on that. I think I never had that happen to me, but yeah, this should not be possible.

 

the quest ends when you click the actor, assuming he is dead... lol

 

EDIT: seems there is a function check for that, I will try to just exclude essential actors on the next update.

robbery will just not start with them in the first place then.

 

Edited September 8, 2024 by Nymra

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, Talesien said:

 

 

btw I tested Follower Functionality.

 

I set Bleedout Getup to 20 seconds and got both bleedout and critical hit defeats. Both variants work with all possible outcomes.

 

I think about adding a scan for follower distance tho... sometimes followers get stuck somewhere back, leaving you invincible somehow (you would always just get back up).

Another scenario is possibly moving a follower to the PC once the pC is down so that he defends the master directly, hmm m hmm ..

 

Found some strange issue with Slavery btw. seems for me the calming and disabling of controls happens quite late all of a sudden, even when I did not change any code. will investigate further...

 

 

[Sirschlongslinger69]

5 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

thinking is not knowing.

you need to try with a different sexlab version or similar to really make an educated guess. 
a CTD at that point of the game is usually just tied to your ModLoad, especially animation count.

my skyrim sometimes crashed 5 times in a row. sometimes I have to restard. And I use all the fixes and patches there are for FNIS count (I currently run almost twice the animation count that usually causes a guaranteed CTD.

Reinstalled a 1.5.97 SE and 1.62 LL and the mod works great. Yeah I have triple the animation maximum on the other build haha