BaboDialogue

[thiccdragoness]

so can anyone help

[Alias176]

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I have it so everyone below relationship 4 can say lewd things and I'm constantly being chased around by everyone

I set mine to the max (rs 5) and yet only merchants and guards were able to comment. I also have zaz 8+ installed.  I have also tried the population mod for babo and they too have no babo dialogue whatsoever. 

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I'm not sure what outfit rings are

They are the rings that are marked with the SLA keywords in the babo add item menu pack. Its purpose is to simply act like a skimpy piece of clothing by itself so that going back and forth between ssedit and in game to add and change keywords isnt necessary. I think if i had to keep quitting the game to add a keyword to every new armor i get im gonna pass out lol. Especially since i have my modded gear distributed throughout the loot lists, letting me get a new piece of gear i want to wear after every single fight. 

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learned a bit how to use SSEDIT and added keywords to specific armor chest pieces  per the instructions on the quote below things really started to pop off.

and yeah i know what u mean by this. For me babodialogue patcher is the one automatically referring the keywords to the armours hence my skimpy armor was able to trigger the halfnaked dialogue but im just confused why the rings, which are also a piece of aparrel with the exact same keywords still arent recognised as such

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grabbed from behind then sex scene I was grabbed, sleeper held, black screen, then moved to another location in town.

is getting grabbed from behind really from this mod? cause horrible harrassment also has it
Ive never gotten this mod to work yet so I dont know

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Lastly, seems like as the lewd value and other values go up things start to happen more frequently and people say different things. Essentially gaining reputation = more activity. 

Funnily enough i tested it both at 0 lewdness and rep and also at 3000 lewdness and rep (mcm sliders) and both were pretty much the same.

[flux003]

2 minutes ago, Alias176 said:

I set mine to the max (rs 5) and yet only merchants and guards were able to comment. I also have zaz 8+ installed.  I have also tried the population mod for babo and they too have no babo dialogue whatsoever. 

They are the rings that are marked with the SLA keywords in the babo add item menu pack. Its purpose is to simply act like a skimpy piece of clothing by itself so that going back and forth between ssedit and in game to add and change keywords isnt necessary. I think if i had to keep quitting the game to add a keyword to every new armor i get im gonna pass out lol. Especially since i have my modded gear distributed throughout the loot lists, letting me get a new piece of gear i want to wear after every single fight. 

and yeah i know what u mean by this. For me babodialogue patcher is the one automatically referring the keywords to the armours hence my skimpy armor was able to trigger the halfnaked dialogue but im just confused why the rings, which are also a piece of aparrel with the exact same keywords still arent recognised as such

is getting grabbed from behind really from this mod? cause horrible harrassment also has it
Ive never gotten this mod to work yet so I dont know

Funnily enough i tested it both at 0 lewdness and rep and also at 3000 lewdness and rep (mcm sliders) and both were pretty much the same.

Hard telling there. Does the mod look at all pieces of gear for the keywords or only the body?

Yea the grabbing is HH now that I think of it. 

I assume you have  all the other requirements for it?  

Funny enough upon jumping in game after I posted that reply I just had the "challenger" event and the "horny troll" up by Morthal.  This was wearing a piece of armor tagged with Erotic Armor. 

@thiccdragoness : that's a hard thing to troubleshoot considering there can be a ton of things causing CTD upon load. If I was you I'd start with trying to figure out why a mod isn't showing up in MCM, sounds like you're probably missing something, somewhere. Like a back end requirement or something if I could guess. 

 

 

 

[Alias176]

7 hours ago, thiccdragoness said:

1. The MCM does not show up, even when starting a new game

I've only experienced this before in a previous version, not the crashing part.

For me, the PAHE mcm was overlapping this babodialogue mcm for some reason even on a fresh new save. If I were to load PAHE first, the babodialogue mcm will not show up. And conversely if i were to load babodialogue first, then the PAHE mcm will either not show up/be broken aka with the $ signs and the uninteractable buttons. 

[Alias176]

1 minute ago, flux003 said:

Hard telling there. Does the mod look at all pieces of gear for the keywords or only the body?

I assume you have  all the other requirements for it?  

I have absolutely no idea how this mod recognizes the clothing lol but I saw someone say something in the earlier comments about the clothing slot being the issue eg. slot [34] ring.
Maybe thats why its not working. 

Im pretty sure i do. Thats why I'm absolutely lost on what to do next now.

I have also tried this together with approach and horrible harrassment and yeah the outfit comment dialogue for JUST the civilians just aint appearing. Actually its strange that Amren is the only person who is able to speak some of the dialogue at all even though he is also a whiterun resident.

[flux003]

1 minute ago, Alias176 said:

I have absolutely no idea how this mod recognizes the clothing lol but I saw someone say something in the earlier comments about the clothing slot being the issue eg. slot [34] ring.
Maybe thats why its not working. 

Im pretty sure i do. Thats why I'm absolutely lost on what to do next now.

I have also tried this together with approach and horrible harrassment and yeah the outfit comment dialogue for JUST the civilians just aint appearing. Actually its strange that Amren is the only person who is able to speak some of the dialogue at all even though he is also a whiterun resident.

 

 

When you say civilians do you mean the npcs actually named "Citizen" or just generally speaking?  Generally speaking I have very few vanilla npcs approach me, it's almost always the ones added by Populated skyrim SE for Babo. 

Sometime I wonder if my Immersive World encounters is snatching up the World events before Babo can. Do you have something like this? I could be wrong but it also seems like only specific areas make a Babo event pop off. For example, almost like clockwork I can get a Lowlife to creep on my right by Honningbrew meadry. 

[VaunWolfe]

I am having issues with the orc house event. There is two sex scenes then they say they are going again but then they dont and a text bubble pops up roughtly saying that you pleaded and they didnt listen. And then nothing happens cant talk to them cant steal keys. Just stuck in the house do to the fact that the door is locked and scenario wont end.

Edited March 24, 2023 by VaunWolfe

[flux003]

5 hours ago, Alias176 said:

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I noticed there's a manual for this that gives some spoilers on teh events, have you looked over Babo Dialogue Manual Version 5.0 by chance?
 

[flux003]

2 hours ago, VaunWolfe said:

I am having issues with the orc house event. There is two sex scenes then they say they are going again but then they dont and a text bubble pops up roughtly saying that you pleaded and they didnt listen. And then nothing happens cant talk to them cant steal keys. Just stuck in the house do to the fact that the door is locked and scenario wont end.

Still can't get this one to pop off. How did you get the orc house event to trigger?

Never mind, it says right in the manual how to make it happen and I haven't done a couple quest prerequisites. 
 

 

Edited March 24, 2023 by flux003

[VaunWolfe]

this is what is in the what is in the manual. "After purchasing Breezehome, you ask the innkeeper of Whiterun about current events. Available Sub story: Whiterun`s vice captain makes PC his slave. You must be raped a couple of times by orcs first and then get the title. / You must finish Whiterun Battle Quest. And then you talk to the Whiterun captain. " But in my case I own the house went out on and did a quest. When I cam back they were outside my house . I talk to them they want me to go inside with them do that then the scenes happen but then stops working. No additional story lines cant get the keys  nothing it seems as like it just stops. I even waited 24hours just incase it was time sensitive

 

[Alias176]

5 hours ago, flux003 said:

 

 

When you say civilians do you mean the npcs actually named "Citizen" or just generally speaking?  Generally speaking I have very few vanilla npcs approach me, it's almost always the ones added by Populated skyrim SE for Babo. 

Sometime I wonder if my Immersive World encounters is snatching up the World events before Babo can. Do you have something like this? I could be wrong but it also seems like only specific areas make a Babo event pop off. For example, almost like clockwork I can get a Lowlife to creep on my right by Honningbrew meadry. 

Ah i mean in general. For example normal citizens like ysolda, carlotta etc. On top of that, the npcs added from populated dialogue such as hunter, servant etc all do not give me dialogue. btw is the approaching u talk about a forcegreet, and isnt from sexlab approach/HH? cus they have that same feature too. Im guessing the vanilla npcs and populated babo ARE supposed to say stuff based on how there is a chance slider for their dialogue in the mcm

I tried a completely fresh install with only the base requirements of babodialogue, so no other mods are affecting it, just the base vanilla game with the main requirements. 

 

31 minutes ago, flux003 said:

I noticed there's a manual for this that gives some spoilers on teh events, have you looked over Babo Dialogue Manual Version 5.0 by chance?
 

Yeah i have seen the spoilers for the events thats why I tried to trigger some of the random road encounters which have no quest requirements and still nothing happened after i walked through the encounter hotspots

 

[flux003]

51 minutes ago, Alias176 said:

Ah i mean in general. For example normal citizens like ysolda, carlotta etc. On top of that, the npcs added from populated dialogue such as hunter, servant etc all do not give me dialogue. btw is the approaching u talk about a forcegreet, and isnt from sexlab approach/HH? cus they have that same feature too. Im guessing the vanilla npcs and populated babo ARE supposed to say stuff based on how there is a chance slider for their dialogue in the mcm

I tried a completely fresh install with only the base requirements of babodialogue, so no other mods are affecting it, just the base vanilla game with the main requirements. 

 

Yeah i have seen the spoilers for the events thats why I tried to trigger some of the random road encounters which have no quest requirements and still nothing happened after i walked through the encounter hotspots

 

I've never had any females approach. Sometimes female bandits will say something but I've never had a female npc approach, and I'm not sure if the mod is made for a male pc. 

Hunters and Servants never approach me either. Beggars, Merchants, Laborers, Citizens, Mercenaries, various jarl house carls. my house carls.  Actually just had my first Winterhold College npc approach after I bought stuff from him. The Illusion dude. That I believe is the Dibella merchant seduction judging from the dialogue. 

At this point I don't know lol. Yea they're force greetings and probably SL Approach Redux. The occasional ass slap, bear hug or kiss is HH, though the kiss doesn't happen that often.  I thought Babodialgue just adds more flavor to what the SL Approach Redux uses in addition to adding some events and a stat system. 

The things that made the road encounters instantly work after no success and aimlessly wandering around for quite some time was adding 1 suggested keyword to 1 piece of chest armor. Like I said, I used the Halfnaked one for Tavern clothing (Minidress with HDT specifically), The individual words change the dialogue you hear and say to yourself but they all cause the events to happen...  As soon as I did this and ran from Riverwood to White run I ran into a Lowlife on the road by Honningbrew.  Additionally when I updated Zaz from 7.0 to Zaz 8.0 I noticed more events and stopped getting a CTD when the Psycho was trying to teleport me. Not only this but the Lowlife encounter changed and actually transported me to a different area of town + additional scenes, instead of just 1 scene right where you were. 

Have you tried just adding a keyword to a chestplate with SSedit?

 

[Alturistix]

Hello,

IDK why but after some events, the actors become hostile, even when the pc is compliant. Is this as intended or is it a bug?

[thiccdragoness]

13 hours ago, flux003 said:

Hard telling there. Does the mod look at all pieces of gear for the keywords or only the body?

Yea the grabbing is HH now that I think of it. 

I assume you have  all the other requirements for it?  

Funny enough upon jumping in game after I posted that reply I just had the "challenger" event and the "horny troll" up by Morthal.  This was wearing a piece of armor tagged with Erotic Armor. 

@thiccdragoness : that's a hard thing to troubleshoot considering there can be a ton of things causing CTD upon load. If I was you I'd start with trying to figure out why a mod isn't showing up in MCM, sounds like you're probably missing something, somewhere. Like a back end requirement or something if I could guess. 

 

 

 

I have tried modifying the load order, checking skseedit, reinstalling, but it is always the same, it comes up "BaboMCMRebooting" but no matter what, it doesn't show the MCM, and if I load up a save where it does from an older save file, it instantly crashes

[Kruggar]

On 1/11/2023 at 4:28 PM, xaina222 said:

Whenever I got defeat by NPC from this mod only I just dont enter bleed out stage but instead just revive instantly with full HP, any idea why ? other NPCs can still defeat me just fine

Im using Defeat baka edtion

I'm facing this exact issue. I keep getting revived to full HP and defeat scene does not trigger. It's only for babo NPC because defeat scene with every other NPC is working pretty fine. Did anybody find a fix for this?

[busico]

Hey guys, i have some problem with the big orcs event.... they have no cock, just an tiny speedo, help

[Alias176]

21 hours ago, flux003 said:

At this point I don't know lol. Yea they're force greetings and probably SL Approach Redux. The occasional ass slap, bear hug or kiss is HH, though the kiss doesn't happen that often.  I thought Babodialgue just adds more flavor to what the SL Approach Redux uses in addition to adding some events and a stat system. 
 

Maybe you are right lol I guess if im running it on a bare save and it still works like this then its how its supposed to be

[flux003]

Still can't manage to get the orc event to happen.  I purchased Breezehome a long time ago, talked to innkeeper on numerous occasions, I've just recently  completed the Whiterun Battle quest but the Inn keeper doesn't have any new dialogue. It says a condition is "And then you talk to the whiterun captain" but this character is a stormcloak and there is no "Whiterun Captain". Am I missing something?

Edited March 25, 2023 by flux003

[Lenore]

4 hours ago, flux003 said:

Still can't manage to get the orc event to happen.  I purchased Breezehome a long time ago, talked to innkeeper on numerous occasions, I've just recently  completed the Whiterun Battle quest but the Inn keeper doesn't have any new dialogue. It says a condition is "And then you talk to the whiterun captain" but this character is a stormcloak and there is no "Whiterun Captain". Am I missing something?

 

I think there's a requirement for boobs or something to be at 70?

[Madmunchkin]

How does this mod interact with Defeat's and Naked Defeat's triggers when HP is at a certain level or player is on bleedout? Do I have to disable those triggers in defeat and naked deafeat completely or is it enough to disable the bleedout condition? Do I have to  disable defeat and naked defeat completely? I guess it's not intendet that defeat or naked defeat takes over on bleedout or a certain hp threshold, right? I read baka's modder advice including babodialogue faction in their triggers. Since I use defeat baka edition do I even have to care about any of defeats trigger conditions?

Edited March 25, 2023 by Madmunchkin

[_Polski_]

Been using this fine for a few years now, for some reason over the past few days (After adding a couple outfit mods for some reason) It seems to crash my game, Netscript points to SKI config base and the player alias scripts along with the babomcm source file. I genuinly dont get what the problem could be as Im even on a new savegame but its downright unplayable

[flux003]

10 hours ago, Madmunchkin said:

How does this mod interact with Defeat's and Naked Defeat's triggers when HP is at a certain level or player is on bleedout? Do I have to disable those triggers in defeat and naked deafeat completely or is it enough to disable the bleedout condition? Do I have to  disable defeat and naked defeat completely? I guess it's not intendet that defeat or naked defeat takes over on bleedout or a certain hp threshold, right? I read baka's modder advice including babodialogue faction in their triggers. Since I use defeat baka edition do I even have to care about any of defeats trigger conditions?

 

 

I set Babodialogue hp trigger to 50% and it seemed to work on the psycho event. Prior to that I kept just getting regular defeat scenes and then a bugged npc lol. 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, Lenore said:

 

I think there's a requirement for boobs or something to be at 70?

 

hmm no, i don't think so, not with the Orc event.   According to the PDF the breast size only effects Road Encounter 5 (crazy man wants womans breasts). I had them set to 80 for the longest time, only recently set them smaller 

Edit: (What Lenore suggested ended up being somewhat correct lol. more details on another post further down the thread)

When I talk to Hulda in Whiterun she does mention some clan,  she said this dialogue a long time ago as well but I only recently did the Battle for Whiterun. Messing around with sqs doesnt seem to do anything either. (i save and reload before messing with sqs also) but I did help babochangelocationevent, found the orc messenger event and all the stages are at 0. Trying to change any of them does nothing. 

 

 

Edited March 25, 2023 by flux003
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[krafs]

Anyone else having issues with the new kidnap quest in 5.00 available for free on Patreon? Whenever I get kidnapped, the dialogue line "I will do anything you say" keeps staying up, hading any other dialogue from the captor. Also, there doesn't seem to be any progression from that point either, and the bandits are not hostile if I escape.

 

Has anyone been able to solve that?

[GalxyReard]

Whenever I speak to Commander Caius the Vice Captain will does not show up. I speak to caius, he says "I assign new person for your protection" then there is no more dialogue and nothing happens when I trigger the orc event again.

[flux003]

On 11/7/2022 at 4:37 PM, Saralan said:

Question, is this mod compatible with JK Skyrim (remade cities look) and Open Cities? cuse i start to think it might cuse troubles with certain events like Markarth Guards and Whiterun Orc events. i havent got orc event once so far and markarth happened only after another event with lowlife assaulting me wich ended up crating a sperate instance of the city after blackout. Then another problem happened, after the guard stoped "inspecting me" it said my equipment is gona be in some kind of stash in guards place, but i couldnt figure out where it could be and all i had was a marker point out to a wall where nothing was.
 

I wonder if this is the case for me. I still have yet to get an Orc event, or the Markarth guard inspection (lack of guard inspection could be because i didn't have the guards check boxed in the options, idk). I've had a lowlifes sneak and apprehend me around in a cities, they've also moved me to another spot within the city, except Markarth that one I always struggled free...  I have Jk's Skyrim (an absolute must have mod I might add). 

There was some issue with the Random Npc Visitor to Breezehome (the one where you decline to have sex with the npc right on the spot, but rather tell them where you live so they can come say hi) using Eli's Breezehome until I patched Eli's with Eli's Breezehome Optimization Packages and Patches (which also fixed some weird behavior for followers in there btw).  I also noticed this same situation with an NPC who visited Lakeview Manor, since I'm using "Lakeview Manor- As it should be" . I wasn't able to answer the door when he was knocking, however if I caught the npcs ID, moved them into the house, the dialogue would start if I could catch them before they exited, then they would proceed to hang out.  

I saw another post mentioning Sinmir (no dialogue options, ever) and Commander Caius (who completely vanishes after Dampening Spirits, I really hope this mod doesnt use him for anything) but I had no luck with either of them. This is after the Stormcloaks take Whiterun. I've also loaded a save prior to progressing the civil war and PRIDing Caius back just to see, and he just has the general babo guard dialogue, nothing special about orcs.  I can't reload before Dampening spirits, that was like 200+ hours ago lmao.


Found a post in this thread from Lt Roarke that says:
 

"So far, the only requirements for Hulda's dialog to start the Orc Visitors is:

1. Own Breezehome.
2. Beauty Value >= 50
3. Breasts Value >= 70
4. Butt Value >= 70

Have those set and keep talking to Hulda until you get congratulated for owning a house in Whiterun. You'll get another notification when the quest has started.

The new update spawns a door in front of Breezehome after you talk with the Orcs. It will send you into a very basic version of Breezehome to start the scene without compatibility issues. As long as the outside of Breezehome looks relatively the same as the original, as in front door in the same location, then it should work."


Gonna try those values and see if it makes a difference. 


Update: Instantly got the dialogue with her after cycling it once.. Walk out and look down the street, sure enough, trio of orcs right outside breeze home lol..  now to see if the rest of it works.


I'd like to offer a little feedback if I could, my "2 cents" if you will:

 

It would have been nice if this information was in the manual, considering the hours of digging through posts to find this tidbit of information. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for immersivly finding all this content and would prefer it happen like this but with the nature of bugs caused by a plethora of variables we need to have the specifics... Spoiler warns are great of course, but the full scope of details would be appreciated under that spoiler. With so many potential variables  of conditions for specific events to happen.. is just.. idk. having this variety of setting is great and all, and has the potential of adding some variety to playthroughs  but to some extent having events tied to such a specific combination has the potential of ruining events. It surely creates the potential of completely missing out on an event. 

Hear me out here, after playing with this mod for probably at least 100 hours without really looking too deep as to not spoil anything, just going off of what's shown in the MCM, just running around doing stuff trying to experience it as intended and not finding a whole lot of the special events happening has sent me into this sort of trouble shooting mode to get to the bottom of what's going on... This mode of  "am I'm experiencing a bug, or am I not meeting certain pre-requisites" has basically completely ruined the event for me lol... so in my honest opinion there should be some toggle to disregard the Beauty / Breast/ Butt value settings for the special events to happen... these settings make sense to help maybe align animations properly but to tie the events to them is just asking to ruin the experience considering the nature of Skyrim Modding.  I would have loved it if this came naturally when I was just talking to Hulda earlier then finding the surprise waiting outside Breezehome...   

Events based on Reputation on the other hand seems great to me. It's an easy parameter to follow and will ensure you experience the full breathe of the mod depending how you handle the situations, without too much thought of "are things even working?". 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 25, 2023 by flux003
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