Public Whore

[Gristle]

Just thought I'd throw in my two cents on mod function. Version 1.24 has been working fine for me: Whiterun start works, Solitude start works, Windhelm start works, PC begging works, NPC PW approaches work. I haven't done the execution scene yet, but all the other punishment scenes work: public rape, light whipping, heaving whipping. I've run this on an older SE setup as well as a completely up-to-date AE setup. Both work fine. I am running with creature mods. I've always run with ZaZ, and have run with and without DD. No issues either way.

 

My only (slight) issue is that a guard approach to make your PC the PW might get you teleported to the Jarl in the middle of a SexLab animation triggered by another mod. This will likely result in an infinite fall through space. I deal with this by enabling the "walk away" option in the guard approach to make the PC a PW, so that I can dismiss the guard approach if it comes after a SexLab animation has been triggered (or otherwise at an inconvenient time).

 

There is a minor issue with AE, however. Because the duplicate Palace of the Kings used by PW has an underscore within the cell name, you won't see your game saves made during the Windhelm start quest. (Actually, you might see them if you go back to the Menu and Show All Saves, as opposed to just looking at the current character saves. Not sure.) In any case, if you play through the Windhelm start quest, this would not be an issue.

 

So, I have to assume that any issues with the above mod functions, that are working for me, are caused by mod conflicts, corrupt files or the like.

 

I did tweak a few things on my (v1.24) setup, per the attached patch. But these are not so much bug fixes as personal preferences. No changes to scripts or script fragments. Just dialogue and dialogue condition adjustments:

• Modified condition to Thane dialogue "I want to be the public whore again" so that being 'eligible' as PW does not prevent the PC from volunteering as PW. 
• Changed 'hero fame' PW startup dialogue so that the initial PC 'intimidate' option to decline PW service is not automatic but instead requires an intimidation check like other similar PW intimidate/decline options.
• Revised 'hero fame' start dialogue so that a prior PW in the hold can go through a somewhat shortened PW start dialogue, adjusted to reflect prior PW experience.
• Added condition to comment "While I'm at it, I'll take this too" so that sadistic clients can only steal PC items when stealing is enabled in the PW MCM.
• Added conditions to Thane dialogue "Who are you?" and "What does that mean?" so that this dialogue doesn't appear when the PC has already been PW in the hold.
• Revised Thane 'job finished' dialogue so that the Thane assumes the PC will continue as PW, though the choice to leave PW service remains available. 

 

PWPatchv1.0forPWv1.2.4.7z

[danna233]

Well, yes, to make it safe in the installation, you need to fix the problem locations, the royal palace, the torture chamber and the execution chamber. Also remove post-effects in the form of NPC attacks, they break quests, invisibility, since they turn on the god mode of the NPC and they scan you constantly ignoring invisibility, perhaps there are some other problems, but this was enough for me. Remove bestiality things if you have bestiality turned off (I tried for several hours to get rid of the damned horse). Ideally, it would be better to introduce a system of morality for NPCs, if you are in a bad relationship, then they will be rude, if in a good relationship, then they should not pour out a stream of verbal crap on you. This is partially corrected by SexLab Dialogues, but I would like to see at least some rudiments of intelligence in the NPCs.

Edited September 24, 2023 by danna233

[blahity]

@GristleThank you for the patch! I have to agree that running 1.24 instead of the current version solves most of the bugs. 

[rikkaknight]

On 8/10/2023 at 7:19 PM, Onomatophobia said:

Somehow the Windhelm quest is bugged, I get a crash every time it ends and I get teleported outside.

I have the same problem. Did you solve it?

[monty359]

Great work, Gristle! Thanks!

 

I have a small issue with my installation. The PW force greet uses often the normal force greet dialogue. With debugging on, i can see, that when the " NPC approaches" message comes, i get a PW comment, but a standard dialogue. It appears to be random though, sometimes i get the correct PW dialogues. I have seen this problem reported from other users, but no solution to this problem.

 

Do you have any pointers, what can be the issue for that problem?

 

I use PW 1.24 and both of your dialogue mods.

 

Thanks again

[endocytosis]

On 9/8/2023 at 1:58 PM, maxsteiner said:

I don't know what anim this is but I have a question for you. What belly inflate mod is used in this picture? Looks awesome.

I got my account lost，here is my new one.
that belly results of soulgem oven4(SGO4),with texture replaced
still want this hanging anim,ahhhh

[danna233]

22 minutes ago, endocytosis said:

still want this hanging anim,ahhhh

Here is a similar one. This is his animation, he uses it in his mods.

 

[Visio Diaboli]

@Gristle thanks for the patch. I want to try and merge it into a release soon

 

Does anyone know if log spam is the biggest issue with 1.2.5, or is there more? Need to figure out if this, 1.2.5, and the 1.2.5 patch can co-exist somehow.

[vladeemer]

40 minutes ago, Visio Diaboli said:

Does anyone know if log spam is the biggest issue with 1.2.5, or is there more? Need to figure out if this, 1.2.5, and the 1.2.5 patch can co-exist somehow.

 

I saw a few pages back multiple users reported animations not starting in the Windhelm event. I've been running 1.2.4 based on said reports so can't confirm any deets

[crococat]

Have one issue. Dont like when NPCs are stealing my items as it may bring problems with other mods. In MCM there is option to disable stealing.

But this option does not work on bad type of clients, they still take my random items.

[Naps-On-Dirt]

5 hours ago, Visio Diaboli said:

@Gristle thanks for the patch. I want to try and merge it into a release soon

 

Does anyone know if log spam is the biggest issue with 1.2.5, or is there more? Need to figure out if this, 1.2.5, and the 1.2.5 patch can co-exist somehow.

 

IIRC sex scenes don't start at all under 1.2.5, not just in the Windhelm event but routine PW scenes too.  Maybe I'm remembering that wrong, I just know that pretty much everyone went back to 1.2.4.  

[Gristle]

13 hours ago, monty359 said:

I have a small issue with my installation. The PW force greet uses often the normal force greet dialogue. With debugging on, i can see, that when the " NPC approaches" message comes, i get a PW comment, but a standard dialogue. It appears to be random though, sometimes i get the correct PW dialogues. I have seen this problem reported from other users, but no solution to this problem.

That happens to me occasionally too. I don't have a solution, but it hasn't been a big problem for me either.

[Gristle]

3 hours ago, crococat said:

Have one issue. Dont like when NPCs are stealing my items as it may bring problems with other mods. In MCM there is option to disable stealing.

But this option does not work on bad type of clients, they still take my random items.

The patch I made will fix that. It's posted up above on this page.

[spyke123]

Would like to see some expansion on the "repeat process" when becoming PW in a hold for the second time. Found it, beeing brought to the thane the exact same way with everyone magically seemed to have forgotten I had already been PW, (including the descriptive messages of my characters own thoughts on the matter) , a bit underwhelming...

 

Would be nice with a different scenario that works for repeated service. 

[vladeemer]

A debugging option to end all follow scripts would be extremely helpful, since sometimes (frequently) they just break during queue events and you have NPCs following you forever. Currently the only fix I've found for this scenario is to revert to a previous save. Something that released all queued NPCs (either from the spectator's queue or the threesome "let's find a third" event) would make it safer to enable these options again.

 

This has been an issue with every PW build I've used, for both LE & SE. Currently I'm on 1.2.4 on SE 1.5.97.

[Gristle]

10 hours ago, spyke123 said:

Would like to see some expansion on the "repeat process" when becoming PW in a hold for the second time. Found it, beeing brought to the thane the exact same way with everyone magically seemed to have forgotten I had already been PW, (including the descriptive messages of my characters own thoughts on the matter) , a bit underwhelming...

 

Would be nice with a different scenario that works for repeated service. 

The patch I made (and posted on this page above) addresses some of the "repeat service" issues you mention.

[spyke123]

14 hours ago, Gristle said:

The patch I made (and posted on this page above) addresses some of the "repeat service" issues you mention.

 

Is that patch for both SE and LE ?

[Gristle]

9 hours ago, spyke123 said:

 

Is that patch for both SE and LE ?

It's just dialogue edits. Should work fine on either.

[Killy8888]

Public Whore animations don't apply to some NPCs (PW SexQueueManager: only found "none"actors in queue, shutting down queue) , if I'm getting asked by NPCs for sex or or if I'm asking them if they want to use "the public whore"animations don't apply even though I run them with FNIS. I have all the requirements, my addons are Fame and Sexist Guards and all their voice overs. Also how can I disable people coming around to masturbate when the sex scene takes place or that event when they come and just bang you in the streets with no permission. I'd like to control this as I play skyrim in a dorm room and can't be seen by roommates as my char gets r***d. I want to control what gender masturbates or not or if anyone should join. Do you have fixes for this problems ? Thank you ! 

 

 

PS: I wanted to upload pics to show you the errors exactly, but somehow it shows only as background no text boxes so it'd be out of context. Thank you so much ! 

[Maddac]

I am running PW and the log spam issue is causing the character to freeze in place, so the character is frozen while other npcs are still walking around doing stuff. I have attached picture of the in game log spam I am getting related to PW and SLSF. as a test I went back to PW 1.2.4 and reloaded the same game at same location, and my character was immediately free after sex and no log spam

Edited September 29, 2023 by Maddac

[Gristle]

14 hours ago, Killy8888 said:

Public Whore animations don't apply to some NPCs (PW SexQueueManager: only found "none"actors in queue, shutting down queue) , if I'm getting asked by NPCs for sex or or if I'm asking them if they want to use "the public whore"animations don't apply even though I run them with FNIS.

What do you mean by "the public whore animations". PW just uses whatever SL animations you have.

14 hours ago, Killy8888 said:

I have all the requirements, my addons are Fame and Sexist Guards and all their voice overs. Also how can I disable people coming around to masturbate when the sex scene takes place

That doesn't sounds like a feature of PW, SLSF Fame Comments or Sexist Guards. Are you using the Spectator Crowds mod?

14 hours ago, Killy8888 said:

or that event when they come and just bang you in the streets with no permission.

That could be SLSF Fame Comments. You can turn off comments with "forced" events in the SLSF Fame Comments MCM. But that can happen with PW too, even when you are no longer the PW in a town.

[danna233]

5 hours ago, Gristle said:

That could be SLSF Fame Comments. You can turn off comments with "forced" events in the SLSF Fame Comments MCM. But that can happen with PW too, even when you are no longer the PW in a town.

And how to disable these attacks? This breaks not only the game, but also other mods. I don’t want the character to be attacked by clients in the brothel of the Ancient Profession, this is prohibited by the rules. It breaks the whole atmosphere. This is acceptable somewhere on the Red Wave, but not in decent brothels.

[Killy8888]

6 hours ago, Gristle said:

What do you mean by "the public whore animations". PW just uses whatever SL animations you have.

That doesn't sounds like a feature of PW, SLSF Fame Comments or Sexist Guards. Are you using the Spectator Crowds mod?

That could be SLSF Fame Comments. You can turn off comments with "forced" events in the SLSF Fame Comments MCM. But that can happen with PW too, even when you are no longer the PW in a town.

 Hello yes I do use Spectator Crowds, thank you for reminding me , can it be tweaked ingame or I need to disable it ? 

 

 

"That could be SLSF Fame Comments. You can turn off comments with "forced" events in the SLSF Fame Comments MCM. But that can happen with PW too, even when you are no longer the PW in a town." So SLSF Fame and PW can they be tweaked in any way to stop that happening ? 

 

 

 

Also by pw animations I thought PW comes with animations included, well,  the thing is that when I try to talk to NPCs to use the character as they like ,or if they initiate an action with me sometimes the animations don't activate, the NPCs just stand still before that line either appears telling me about Non-Actors or  a dialogue box appears telling me that the NPC has their way with me , yet nothing happens.

[peanut404]

my console log is absolutely freaking out with thousands of 'pw: sex queue manager somethingsomething 'none' dequeueing' messages. stopping the queue in the debug menu and changing scan intervals doesnt do anything. ive tried cleaning the save with console commands but makes no difference.

 

i'd rather not clean PW itself as im literally one fucker away from being free, though no scene will start as the queuemanager has obviously gone haywire and wont let a anything mod related start properly.

 

tried rolling back, but that messed the whole save up with ctds on saves. anyway to disable the queue itself?

 

 

edit: ah i have managed to brute force some scenes starting thru the mod, however they don't register with the quest, and my existing clients to report cant actually be reported. probably time to nuke it all.

 

another edit! : cleaning the save of PW and letting it reinitialise actually fixed everything, the quest was removed from my tracker but other than that i could actually pick back up from where it left off, which is a pleasant surprise :B

Edited September 30, 2023 by peanut404

[vladeemer]

6 hours ago, Killy8888 said:

So SLSF Fame and PW can they be tweaked in any way to stop that happening ? 

 

 

 

Also by pw animations I thought PW comes with animations included, well,  the thing is that when I try to talk to NPCs to use the character as they like ,or if they initiate an action with me sometimes the animations don't activate, the NPCs just stand still before that line either appears telling me about Non-Actors or  a dialogue box appears telling me that the NPC has their way with me , yet nothing happens.

 

I don't know which SLSF setting would trigger forced events, which doesn't mean they aren't there. If you can't find an MCM setting that relates to it directly, try setting the likelihood for Rapist NPC fame to generate to 0. If that's what is triggering these, you may need to wait for their fame to diminish over time, meaning there would still be some rapists around for a while. For PW I believe forced events come from Difficult and/or Sadistic clients, so try setting anything either/both of those to 0.

 

For animations, Sexlab and/or other mods may be restricting the type of animations PW is trying to use for that scene, or you may be missing a category of animation?

 

I'm not a fan of letting the framework or anything else determine animation availability (outside of using bound animations when the PC is bound, for some semblance of consistency), so in general I remove those restrictions and choose another animation if I disagree with the one the system selected.

 

There's always the chance you may not have the animations for that category, though most available animation packs offer something for most/all categories, so that seems the less likely issue. If you haven't already you can get the Animation Crash Fix mod and the more Sexlab animations mod (can't remember the name of that one) and pick up some more packs.