Diary Of Mine for Paradise Halls

[TrollAutokill]

2 hours ago, tonitrulupus said:

I am still trying to figure out what tree does the gropping

I guess you mean body inspection.

 

The "interacting with slaves"  section was updated for DOM7. It's the 3rd section in the mod description and is a quick summary of DOM dialogues and wheel menu. This is what it says for item 4:

 

4. "Come here slave" dialogue or Abuse wheel (SHIFT-U key): For slaves owned by the player and NPCs with lover relationship. Abuse actors with stripping, sex, items (gags, plugs, blindfolds, cuffs) kisses, body inspection, masturbation, check value, bow and reset. The abuse wheel also includes orgasm policy. 

 

The detailed description, down below, might not be up to date.

Edited July 12, 2025 by TrollAutokill

[pdd001]

For some reason when i press Shift+Y the feelings option not working on my slaves ( the message window not show up and all of hotkeys not working ), i tried reload and test in new game but nothing work. The feelings option still work on none slave NPCs but when i using on my slave everything stop working

 

[TrollAutokill]

3 hours ago, pdd001 said:

For some reason when i press Shift+Y the feelings option not working on my slaves ( the message window not show up and all of hotkeys not working ), i tried reload and test in new game but nothing work. The feelings option still work on none slave NPCs but when i using on my slave everything stop working

 

Which DOM version?

[tonitrulupus]

16 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

I guess you mean body inspection.

 

The "interacting with slaves"  section was updated for DOM7. It's the 3rd section in the mod description and is a quick summary of DOM dialogues and wheel menu. This is what it says for item 4:

 

4. "Come here slave" dialogue or Abuse wheel (SHIFT-U key): For slaves owned by the player and NPCs with lover relationship. Abuse actors with stripping, sex, items (gags, plugs, blindfolds, cuffs) kisses, body inspection, masturbation, check value, bow and reset. The abuse wheel also includes orgasm policy. 

 

The detailed description, down below, might not be up to date.

I believe that one of the early early version actually had an option to group, I am talking like like version 3.xand it seemed that once 4.x or 5.x come out that option disappeared but was able to be done through another chain which I don't remember what it was, but since 7.x I have not been able to get that kink to trigger

[tonitrulupus]

On 7/11/2025 at 11:30 AM, TrollAutokill said:

Installation tab is kind of new on LL, you can expect some adjustments.

Yeoh I had to read it a couple of times to fully get what was meant, but what you did popped when I seen it. adding that highlight made it stand out even more 

[Daemontoid]

Got an issue with DOM and AYGAS. On town auctions, added slaves (clones) in cage becomes agressive to PC and all npc in town start to fight with them. I tried to turn off AYGAS town events, but they happen anyway. Is it way to disable town events from AYGAS?

DOM 7.8.11, AYGAS 6.63b.

 

[Samtheshark]

DOM taking an extremely long time to initialize upon startup. Also animations take forever to begin. Interior cells with more than 3 actors causes horrible lag. On initial install all ran smooth as butter but over time the lag has been unbearable. Any ideas?

[TrollAutokill]

2 hours ago, Samtheshark said:

DOM taking an extremely long time to initialize upon startup. Also animations take forever to begin. Interior cells with more than 3 actors causes horrible lag. On initial install all ran smooth as butter but over time the lag has been unbearable. Any ideas?

If 7.8.12 there is an infinite loop bug I need to correct. Downgrade to 7.8.11

 

Otherwise try elephant script latency tester to check if it is indeed coming from papyrus. 

[pdd001]

11 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Which DOM version?

I use DOM 7.8.12

[TrollAutokill]

On 7/12/2025 at 5:49 PM, pdd001 said:

For some reason when i press Shift+Y the feelings option not working on my slaves ( the message window not show up and all of hotkeys not working ), i tried reload and test in new game but nothing work. The feelings option still work on none slave NPCs but when i using on my slave everything stop working

 

 

On 7/13/2025 at 5:23 AM, Samtheshark said:

DOM taking an extremely long time to initialize upon startup. Also animations take forever to begin. Interior cells with more than 3 actors causes horrible lag. On initial install all ran smooth as butter but over time the lag has been unbearable. Any ideas?

 

Infinite loop bug was fixed in 7.8.13. Please test and report.

Edited July 14, 2025 by TrollAutokill

[ChingChongWong]

I'm not sure if the minigame is bugged but I Flatter, Insult, Hug them, Then make them abashed through body inspection, tie them up. Though the dialogue stays the same when asking someone to call me master (I don't think so).

Is there another option i'm missing?

[tonitrulupus]

1 hour ago, ChingChongWong said:

I'm not sure if the minigame is bugged but I Flatter, Insult, Hug them, Then make them abashed through body inspection, tie them up. Though the dialogue stays the same when asking someone to call me master (I don't think so).

Is there another option i'm missing?

They have to be a specific level I have noticed like submission its around 60 or 70

[TrollAutokill]

7 hours ago, ChingChongWong said:

I'm not sure if the minigame is bugged but I Flatter, Insult, Hug them, Then make them abashed through body inspection, tie them up. Though the dialogue stays the same when asking someone to call me master (I don't think so).

Is there another option i'm missing?

It means it's against their personality. Try to get them to relationship 4. If it doesn't work then you're out of luck with that character, unless you reach high enough submission.

Edited July 14, 2025 by TrollAutokill

[DonQuiWho]

@TrollAutokill

 

I'm summoning up the courage to start a new game with DOM + All the Trimmings

 

Before I do, you said a while ago that you were still going to work on DOM/AYGAS and you mentioned at one of the last DOM updates that that might now be working - although I've seen some users query that, but which versions they used were unclear

 

So am I now able to start with a DOM version which does the things/handles the scenarios below, or should I wait as these are things that you are still working on?

 

1 - AYGAS sales of DOM trained slaves to Skyrim NPCs functioning properly?

 

2 - AYGAS owners now being seen to indulge in their purchases' talents? - ie not down some back alley with a wandering AYGAS whore selling her own charms for £,  but rather 'purchased slaves' giving their new buyers/owners a good time     (Think of a scenario like enslaving Camilla V, training her in the sensual arts, then selling her to Embry, who can turn Sven and Faendal green with envy as he bonks her round the streets, green spaces and The Sleeping Giant in Riverwood 😉 - that was the AYGAS end outcome that @musje never ever got round to actually implementing, despite it seemingly being, like forever, on the 'future developments' list) 

 

Embry will be glad to hear from you.  He's getting a bit desperate in his older years .... 😜

 

DQW

 

 

[Coom Nation]

I have a few questions:

 

1) Is it possible to make trainer train slave in the specific skill? I need to train "work" skill in one of my slaves but trainer just keeps having sex with her all the time and this skill does not improve. Trainer himself has 80 in this skill.

 

2) I have Bathing in Skyrim installed and enabled that option in DOM MCM but dirty textures do not appear on slaves. Is it a bug or it is not even an option?

[ChingChongWong]

7 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

It means it's against their personality. Try to get them to relationship 4. If it doesn't work then you're out of luck with that character, unless you reach high enough submission.

Was able to unlock it by using the Love Charm on her.

[crazymango54]

6 hours ago, DonQuiWho said:

@TrollAutokill

 

I'm summoning up the courage to start a new game with DOM + All the Trimmings

 

Before I do, you said a while ago that you were still going to work on DOM/AYGAS and you mentioned at one of the last DOM updates that that might now be working - although I've seen some users query that, but which versions they used were unclear

 

So am I now able to start with a DOM version which does the things/handles the scenarios below, or should I wait as these are things that you are still working on?

 

1 - AYGAS sales of DOM trained slaves to Skyrim NPCs functioning properly?

 

2 - AYGAS owners now being seen to indulge in their purchases' talents? - ie not down some back alley with a wandering AYGAS whore selling her own charms for £,  but rather 'purchased slaves' giving their new buyers/owners a good time     (Think of a scenario like enslaving Camilla V, training her in the sensual arts, then selling her to Embry, who can turn Sven and Faendal green with envy as he bonks her round the streets, green spaces and The Sleeping Giant in Riverwood 😉 - that was the AYGAS end outcome that @musje never ever got round to actually implementing, despite it seemingly being, like forever, on the 'future developments' list) 

 

Embry will be glad to hear from you.  He's getting a bit desperate in his older years .... 😜

 

DQW

 

 

I'll let the actual author speak more to this, but I'm pretty sure most of the regular AYGAS stuff works to your first point, it's as functional as it has ever been, take that as you will.

 

For the second point, that has not been implemented as of now. I actually worry about the feasibility of such a feature, because leaving a cell during a SexLab animation causes an insane physics bug the next time you visit, where the involved NPCs are flying around on the ceiling with their limbs flapping about like crazy, and all loose items get tossed all over the place. This is an issue with any SL animation, including AYGAS tavern whores and HSH sex trainers. You have to time your departure from the cell to be in between animations in order to avoid it. That's a not a huge deal for a single interior cell, but having it take place outside has some awful implications. I'm not sure if it always happens, but it certainly does happen.

 

SexLab P+ has ostensibly corrected this issue but it is, as of now, only dubiously compatible with DOM. So, short answer is no this is not implemented, long answer is I am not even sure if it practically can be. P+ would be a great thing to merge with for a number of reasons, this being one of them. TAK would need to say more, but this is what I have witnessed in my time using the PAHE suite over the years, it's always been an issue.

[TrollAutokill]

12 hours ago, DonQuiWho said:

@TrollAutokill

 

I'm summoning up the courage to start a new game with DOM + All the Trimmings

 

Before I do, you said a while ago that you were still going to work on DOM/AYGAS and you mentioned at one of the last DOM updates that that might now be working - although I've seen some users query that, but which versions they used were unclear

 

So am I now able to start with a DOM version which does the things/handles the scenarios below, or should I wait as these are things that you are still working on?

 

1 - AYGAS sales of DOM trained slaves to Skyrim NPCs functioning properly?

 

2 - AYGAS owners now being seen to indulge in their purchases' talents? - ie not down some back alley with a wandering AYGAS whore selling her own charms for £,  but rather 'purchased slaves' giving their new buyers/owners a good time     (Think of a scenario like enslaving Camilla V, training her in the sensual arts, then selling her to Embry, who can turn Sven and Faendal green with envy as he bonks her round the streets, green spaces and The Sleeping Giant in Riverwood 😉 - that was the AYGAS end outcome that @musje never ever got round to actually implementing, despite it seemingly being, like forever, on the 'future developments' list) 

 

Embry will be glad to hear from you.  He's getting a bit desperate in his older years .... 😜

 

DQW

 

 

Aygas should work as @Musje intended it. I might have introduced more bugs and they will be fixed before we jump to 8.0. As for sex scenes, they are one my to-do list and it's just a matter of time until I reach the AYGAS punishment scene and add them.

 

I still didn't get to the end of HSH, and AYGAS will be the next priority.

 

Also, there should be no major change in the HSH and AYGAS plugins. Which means it shyhe safe to update.

[TrollAutokill]

9 hours ago, Coom Nation said:

I have a few questions:

 

1) Is it possible to make trainer train slave in the specific skill? I need to train "work" skill in one of my slaves but trainer just keeps having sex with her all the time and this skill does not improve. Trainer himself has 80 in this skill.

 

2) I have Bathing in Skyrim installed and enabled that option in DOM MCM but dirty textures do not appear on slaves. Is it a bug or it is not even an option?

 

1) You need to put them to work. Either with DOM as maids, miners or wood cutters or with HSH in the mines as forced labour.

 

2) Dirt from BiS is not added by DOM for the moment. Dirt and Blood might work but untested.

[TrollAutokill]

6 hours ago, crazymango54 said:

I'll let the actual author speak more to this, but I'm pretty sure most of the regular AYGAS stuff works to your first point, it's as functional as it has ever been, take that as you will.

 

For the second point, that has not been implemented as of now. I actually worry about the feasibility of such a feature, because leaving a cell during a SexLab animation causes an insane physics bug the next time you visit, where the involved NPCs are flying around on the ceiling with their limbs flapping about like crazy, and all loose items get tossed all over the place. This is an issue with any SL animation, including AYGAS tavern whores and HSH sex trainers. You have to time your departure from the cell to be in between animations in order to avoid it. That's a not a huge deal for a single interior cell, but having it take place outside has some awful implications. I'm not sure if it always happens, but it certainly does happen.

 

SexLab P+ has ostensibly corrected this issue but it is, as of now, only dubiously compatible with DOM. So, short answer is no this is not implemented, long answer is I am not even sure if it practically can be. P+ would be a great thing to merge with for a number of reasons, this being one of them. TAK would need to say more, but this is what I have witnessed in my time using the PAHE suite over the years, it's always been an issue.

Are you sure the problem doesn't arise rather when the scene is started before actors are actually loaded? I never had this problem with DOM trainers and they don't actually start a sex scene if not loaded, they just pretend it happened.

[DonQuiWho]

4 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Aygas should work as @Musje intended it. I might have introduced more bugs and they will be fixed before we jump to 8.0. As for sex scenes, they are one my to-do list and it's just a matter of time until I reach the AYGAS punishment scene and add them.

 

I still didn't get to the end of HSH, and AYGAS will be the next priority.

 

Also, there should be no major change in the HSH and AYGAS plugins. Which means it shyhe safe to update.

 

Thanks!  Sounds good!

 

Embry will carry on saving his up his pennies in his secret Riverwood stash 🤤

 

DQW

[DonQuiWho]

4 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Are you sure the problem doesn't arise rather when the scene is started before actors are actually loaded? I never had this problem with DOM trainers and they don't actually start a sex scene if not loaded, they just pretend it happened.

 

FWIW, I have no real idea on the tech issues, but had assumed that some sort of base solution would be a bit like (using my example characters)

 

Sell Camilla to Embry - add to JSON file with paired masters+slaves

Add keywords to the JSON for 'Owner Embry - initiator', Slave Camilla - Recipient'

Then create a an AYGAS_DISTRIBUTION.ini in a format that can feed into something like. say, @kaxat 's SES2

Use the SES2 Random Sex feature to periodically pair up Embry and Camilla, something, as an event, which would then be handled completely 'outside' of the AYGAS mod itself

 

SES2 doesn't seem to screw up Sexlab animations if you 'leave the room', so to speak, so you maybe avoid any SEXLAB/AYGAS issues  

 

Does that sound 'sensible/feasible/less hassle for DOM/AYGAS' at all?  Maybe @kaxat can tell us if I'm completely off my trolley ..... 😉

 

Hope that helps anyway

 

DQW

 

[kaxat]

1 hour ago, DonQuiWho said:

Add keywords to the JSON for 'Owner Embry - initiator', Slave Camilla - Recipient'

Then create a an AYGAS_DISTRIBUTION.ini in a format that can feed into something like. say, @kaxat 's SES2

Use the SES2 Random Sex feature to periodically pair up Embry and Camilla, something, as an event, which would then be handled completely 'outside' of the AYGAS mod itself

 

That is possible. But keep in mind it is "random". If there are any other Initiators nearby they would want sex with Camilla at times too. If there are other recipients Embry would want to have sex with them. 

 

If you are trying to pair two known actors periodically a very simple quest could do that. But you have to know how to make mods for that. In a pinch ASF could do something similar.

 

SES2 is an implementation of ASF and might already have added those keywords to the relevant actors. Plus a million other actors.

 

1 hour ago, DonQuiWho said:

SES2 doesn't seem to screw up Sexlab animations if you 'leave the room', so to speak, so you maybe avoid any SEXLAB/AYGAS issues 

 

ASF does have safety checks to prevent starting scenes that would not animate. But it has no control over them after they have started. At that point it is up to SexLab to appropriately handle the player leaving the loaded area. And SexLab does a mid job of that. I have a lot of experience with that problem over the years. If you walked through a doorway and saw a load screen while other actors were animating:

 

In SexLab v1.63 and its betas there was a bug that would cause actors to sometimes get stuck in an animation loop. Each stage of an animation gets broken down into smaller looping anims. Most of them involve humping. Sometimes when you reentered the cell an actor who was previously in a SexLab scene would still be in that animation. But moving around the room air humping. Depending on the animation their limbs might flail wildly.  

 

In SexLab P+ 1.8.x I have rarely encountered bugs after load screen. Sometimes a follower who was animating will follow me through right away. Sometimes the follower would get stuck lying on the ground right by the door. Eventually they will get up. And then when you reenter the room their partner is still animating with an invisible partner. That scene would quickly end and return to normal.  Other times P+ would continue an animation when you reentered the room. Acting as though nothing had changed. That is impressive when it happens. 

 

5 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Are you sure the problem doesn't arise rather when the scene is started before actors are actually loaded? I never had this problem with DOM trainers and they don't actually start a sex scene if not loaded, they just pretend it happened.

 

For what it is worth every version of SexLab I have seen checks Actor.Is3dLoaded() before starting an animation. But that can return true for actors that are in a room you just left. They are not rendered but are still loaded according to the game. To my knowledge I have never tried starting an animation with those actors. Maybe it would behave wacky. 

 

Another possibility is that there is another mod in the persons load order that causes that oddity.

 

The mods I have made and extensively tested with all wait 1-2 seconds after load screens before attempting to start anims.

[DonQuiWho]

18 minutes ago, kaxat said:

 

That is possible. But keep in mind it is "random". If there are any other Initiators nearby they would want sex with Camilla at times too. If there are other recipients Embry would want to have sex with them. 

 

If you are trying to pair two known actors periodically a very simple quest could do that. But you have to know how to make mods for that. In a pinch ASF could do something similar.

 

SES2 is an implementation of ASF and might already have added those keywords to the relevant actors. Plus a million other actors.

 

 

ASF does have safety checks to prevent starting scenes that would not animate. But it has no control over them after they have started. At that point it is up to SexLab to appropriately handle the player leaving the loaded area. And SexLab does a mid job of that. I have a lot of experience with that problem over the years. If you walked through a doorway and saw a load screen while other actors were animating:

 

In SexLab v1.63 and its betas there was a bug that would cause actors to sometimes get stuck in an animation loop. Each stage of an animation gets broken down into smaller looping anims. Most of them involve humping. Sometimes when you reentered the cell an actor who was previously in a SexLab scene would still be in that animation. But moving around the room air humping. Depending on the animation their limbs might flail wildly.  

 

In SexLab P+ 1.8.x I have rarely encountered bugs after load screen. Sometimes a follower who was animating will follow me through right away. Sometimes the follower would get stuck lying on the ground right by the door. Eventually they will get up. And then when you reenter the room their partner is still animating with an invisible partner. That scene would quickly end and return to normal.  Other times P+ would continue an animation when you reentered the room. Acting as though nothing had changed. That is impressive when it happens. 

 

 

For what it is worth every version of SexLab I have seen checks Actor.Is3dLoaded() before starting an animation. But that can return true for actors that are in a room you just left. They are not rendered but are still loaded according to the game. To my knowledge I have never tried starting an animation with those actors. Maybe it would behave wacky. 

 

Another possibility is that there is another mod in the persons load order that causes that oddity.

 

The mods I have made and extensively tested with all wait 1-2 seconds after load screens before attempting to start anims.

 

I'm an eejit!  I meant ASF, not SES2

 

Apologies for the confusion!

 

DQW

[fred200]

Question on Write JSON and Read JSON.

I have a slave with the three sexual attributes in the mid 70's.

I target the candidate and hit her with the write json command spell.

Edit the json file and set all three of her sexual attributes to 100.0.

Read the json file back in - and one of her sexual attributes (oral, etc) is now 100. The other 2 are zero...

I suspect there is some computation going on? Like all three of the sexual attributes have to add up to - something?

No such problem cheesing the Respect attribute to 90.