CliftonJD Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 11 hours ago, Khe said: also, Wrye Bash has had some issues with file priority (it decided that PAH's scripts are a higher priority than DOM's and thus kept PAH's instead) that's usually common practice, TrollAutokill caught me off guard when he asked to modify pahe, thought he meant like an addon 11 hours ago, Khe said:  Lastly, one of my pet peeves is still around with PAH; when you enslave someone, their corpse sits there for a while before the replacement shows up...lootable and everything. Takes 5-10 seconds to get their replacement in. that's a script delay, like lag, should normally switch actors much smoother...with occasional exceptions still going slow(wenches for example will likely always go slow, same for obis)   Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted September 17, 2022 Author Share Posted September 17, 2022 25 minutes ago, CliftonJD said: that's usually common practice, Â For add-ons yes, but not for patches. So not so common afterall. Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted September 17, 2022 Author Share Posted September 17, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, CliftonJD said: TrollAutokill caught me off guard when he asked to modify pahe, thought he meant like an addon My apologies for catching you off guard. If you feel so bad about it, you may revoque DoM's privileges and 3..1.6 will be the last PAHE+DoM. Edited September 17, 2022 by TrollAutokill Link to comment
CliftonJD Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 51 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said: My apologies for catching you off guard. If you feel so bad about it, you may revoque DoM's privileges and 3..1.6 will be the last PAHE+DoM. no, i did regret it at first, sorry i didn't say something sooner. but i also don't want to do that to dom...if you can migrate dom away from that method, would be preferred, but don't nuke it if you can't most of the hassle now comes from cross-mod debugging but even when i make an update that should work for both, still won't work until dom updates 2 Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted September 18, 2022 Author Share Posted September 18, 2022 13 hours ago, CliftonJD said: no, i did regret it at first, sorry i didn't say something sooner. but i also don't want to do that to dom...if you can migrate dom away from that method, would be preferred, but don't nuke it if you can't most of the hassle now comes from cross-mod debugging but even when i make an update that should work for both, still won't work until dom updates I'll plan a phase out. But I might still need something borrowed and something blue.  1 Link to comment
moody132 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 On 9/16/2022 at 3:02 PM, TrollAutokill said: PAH is looking for the keyword "zbfFurniture" to lock a slave in position. Without this keyword the slave will sandbox and can go out of the furniture freely.  Please check your faulty slave status in the PAHE MCM slave list, is the behaviour "restrained_in_furniture" or "pose" or something else? Anything else than "restrained_in_furniture" would the sign of a missing keyword.  Are you sure you are using the ZAP Addon compatibility patch? Check the script ZFPAliasCOntrolScript.psc line 994 should show,   Reveal hidden contents Function PAHLockSlave(Actor akActor, bool lock)    PAHSlave slaveRef = (PAHFunctions as PAHCore).GetSlave(akActor)    if (slaveRef != None)       slaveRef.actor_alias.SetCanChangeStates(!lock)       ;Debug.Notification("(PAHE/ZFP) Slave Lockstate Changed")    elseif (slaveRef == None)    ;Not a PAHE Slave, no action    endif EndFunction  Also do you have the same behavior with PAHE alone? Because so far there is no change in the way it is handled between PAAHE and PAHE+DoM. Zap Addon uses CanChangeStates(false) function to lock the slave into the furniture and that should work the same. If not the problem is somewhere in DoM's scripts (I am on it).  Finally,I checked the Hearthfire addon to see if the furniture has the correct keyword, they all have "zbfFurniture". I guess you mean this mod, I couldn't find any SE conversion,    I have restrained_in_furniture both after putting npc in furniture and after reloading. Yes, this is this Dungeon Addon i was talking about, it works on SE pretty good. And without Diary of Mine everything works fine, i double checked it. PAHE+YGAS+HSH+Interactive BSM+Zap addon + Compatibility patch for PAHE works as it should. As soon I add DoM NPCs starts breaking from furniture.  Link to comment
Adrian33Aldea25 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 what setting can i use if i want to have only females as slaves in the game? Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted September 18, 2022 Author Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, moody132 said: Â I have restrained_in_furniture both after putting npc in furniture and after reloading. Yes, this is this Dungeon Addon i was talking about, it works on SE pretty good. And without Diary of Mine everything works fine, i double checked it. PAHE+YGAS+HSH+Interactive BSM+Zap addon + Compatibility patch for PAHEÂ works as it should. As soon I add DoM NPCs starts breaking from furniture. Â Did you try 3.1.6? I changed it so they should not break out. Edited September 18, 2022 by TrollAutokill Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted September 18, 2022 Author Share Posted September 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, Adrian33Aldea25 said: what setting can i use if i want to have only females as slaves in the game? Just enslave females... Link to comment
Adrian33Aldea25 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Just now, TrollAutokill said: Just enslave females... oh, yeah, true. but i see some npc who males as slaves, i wonder if it is a settings to have only females as slaves in game. (probably is not a settings in this mod, but i also tried to tweak settings in Simple Slavery Plus Plus or pah, and couldn't find anything) Link to comment
MisterWanka Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Adrian33Aldea25 said: oh, yeah, true. but i see some npc who males as slaves, i wonder if it is a settings to have only females as slaves in game. (probably is not a settings in this mod, but i also tried to tweak settings in Simple Slavery Plus Plus or pah, and couldn't find anything) The setting might be in AYGAS if you are talking about NPCs who have male slaves. There's a setting to generate only female slaves. 1 Link to comment
MisterWanka Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Great work on this mod, I'm hoping you keep at it. Currently on 3.1.6 LE, I'm having an issue with DOM slaves not equipping devices after selecting "you're going to wear this" and placing DD 5.1 or ZAP 9.2 items into their inventory. Sometimes it equips but very often not. Sometimes it shows equipped in their inventory, but the NPC doesn't wear it. "Strip and fix worn items" or "Strip and set your outfit" is occasionally missing in dialogue. 1 Link to comment
moody132 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said: Did you try 3.1.6? I changed it so they should not break out. I just tried it, with and without ZAP Pahe patch, they still breaks ; ( Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted September 18, 2022 Author Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, MisterWanka said: Great work on this mod, I'm hoping you keep at it. Currently on 3.1.6 LE, I'm having an issue with DOM slaves not equipping devices after selecting "you're going to wear this" and placing DD 5.1 or ZAP 9.2 items into their inventory. Sometimes it equips but very often not. Sometimes it shows equipped in their inventory, but the NPC doesn't wear it. "Strip and fix worn items" or "Strip and set your outfit" is occasionally missing in dialogue. You need to give the actual device name so I can check their keywords. I am not sure original PAHE recognizes DD 5.1 much less ZAP 9. Edited September 18, 2022 by TrollAutokill Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted September 18, 2022 Author Share Posted September 18, 2022 2 hours ago, moody132 said: I just tried it, with and without ZAP Pahe patch, they still breaks ; ( You need Zap PAHE patch for sure. It forces the slaves to not change state. If your slaves are still "restrained_in_furniture" it means that part is working correctly. Â It might be that DoM tries to find the furniture they are sitting in and fail, so the end up not sitting anymore. I'll check. Link to comment
MisterWanka Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 54 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said: You need to give the actual device name so I can check their keywords. I am not sure original PAHE recognizes DD 5.1 much less ZAP 9. I'm using PAHE 8.1.4, and I wasn't having these issues with DoM 2.12.2 using ZAP 9 and DD 5 (although the ZAP gag open mouth effect wasn't working on DoM 2.12.2 slaves). I only began seeing it when I upgraded to DoM 3 in Mod Organizer 2. Link to comment
MisterWanka Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 On 9/17/2022 at 12:21 AM, Khe said: Lastly, one of my pet peeves is still around with PAH; when you enslave someone, their corpse sits there for a while before the replacement shows up...lootable and everything. Takes 5-10 seconds to get their replacement in. I've found that only seems to occur with certain NPCs from different mods like hydra slave girls. Otherwise, DoM doesn't kill them, they just crawl around on the ground until they spawn as slaves. Link to comment
CliftonJD Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 7 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: I'll plan a phase out. But I might still need something borrowed and something blue. Â lol, something borrowed and blue? Link to comment
BloodDollMaria Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 I am not very good at English, so it is possible I am not understanding you well, but will Dom and Pahe be separated in the future? Link to comment
CliftonJD Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, BloodDollMaria said: I am not very good at English, so it is possible I am not understanding you well, but will Dom and Pahe be separated in the future? are you asking if dom will no longer require pahe or are you asking if you can use pahe without dom Link to comment
BloodDollMaria Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, CliftonJD said: are you asking if dom will no longer require pahe or are you asking if you can use pahe without dom Yes, I thought it was going to be a different mod from now on, not PaheAddon... Link to comment
praxis22 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 2 hours ago, CliftonJD said: lol, something borrowed and blue? https://www.insider.com/something-old-new-meaning-borrowed-blue-2017-3 1 Link to comment
MisterWanka Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, praxis22 said: https://www.insider.com/something-old-new-meaning-borrowed-blue-2017-3 Ha, I actually remember first hearing that old wedding rhyme in an episode of Peanuts called "Snoopy's Getting Married, Charlie Brown" Link to comment
CliftonJD Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, BloodDollMaria said: Yes, I thought it was going to be a different mod from now on, not PaheAddon... no, it should remain the same to the users. he just might change how dom effects pahe internally...modder stuff 58 minutes ago, praxis22 said: https://www.insider.com/something-old-new-meaning-borrowed-blue-2017-3 thanks 3 Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted September 18, 2022 Author Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, BloodDollMaria said: Yes, I thought it was going to be a different mod from now on, not PaheAddon... No, more of a rewriting of the wedding contract than a divorce. To define better what's PAHE and what's DoM. ? Edited September 18, 2022 by TrollAutokill 2 Link to comment
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