InsanityFactor Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Would it be possible to have the paired animations toggle collisions for their durations, kind of like SexLab? As far as I can tell, if you use a collision mod like Precision, the NPC can get pushed around during the animation, like the body inspect animation usually shoves the NPC like 5 feet away when my player character moves his arms. SexLab anims perform just fine however, I'm not sure what the difference is. Link to comment
Good Provider Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 3:51 PM, TrollAutokill said: A screenshot would help to understand the problem. With enough slaves, the status messages stack up and push some of the messages down to the lower left where they end up behind the black letter box created during dialog. If these are the messages from the current slave, it makes them unreadable. Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Khe said: 3.2.2 wheel hotkey config menu is better. also, still unchanged typos under DOM02DialogueAnswerThanksRespect: "You are as wondrous as the etheral plane". should be ethereal then we have "<X> choose to stop waiting" which should be "chooses" Thanks, will be fixed next update. 4 hours ago, Khe said: after picking 'display' from the wheel, I can't get one of my slaves to do any poses, though forcing the 'humiliation' option fixed it. her neck also had this weird scrunched look like...uh...turtle. Poses from wheel didn't really work until 3.2.3, it should be better now. 4 hours ago, Khe said: clothes order menu: "ripp-off" rip has only one 'p' Ok. 4 hours ago, Khe said: further, yknow how there's that followup action from punish -> didnt pose -> <X>, where the slave will (may?) resume pose? it's not resuming the right pose and is instead defaulting to 'cute'. similar in the 'stops posing then resumes' dink. Ok, will correct. 4 hours ago, Khe said: Given that I want my girls to be in the 'submissive' pose this is...not really acceptable. wouldn't be as big a problem except that I have to order them to do some other pose besides cute/submissive, then set them back to submissive, in order to get them back into the pose. worse, when one of 'em did the swap to 'cute' and I tried 'light', she is now in the cute poses with a torch. similarly, any other poses seem to get them stuck with the anim objects (one girl has a silver cup, one has a flower basket) Known bug, I am not sure there is a cure for those glitches. I will try to unequip objects if not weapons. 4 hours ago, Khe said: also, idk if these are specifically PAH or your version of its scripts, but: all my slaves are listed as male in the PAH menu Weird, I am pretty sur eI never had that. 4 hours ago, Khe said: the option to rebind 'whistle' and 'mark': where's the 'reset' button since 'esc' doesnt work and instead just binds THAT button to them? Will add ESC as reset. 4 hours ago, Khe said: ideally, whatever the 'system tab' base-game keybind is at the time should be the keybind input that forcibly REMOVES the keybindings. No idea how to check the system keybindings... 4 hours ago, Khe said: failing that, a manual 'reset all keybindings' button... hell, it wont let export the whistle keybind either, and wont accept importing either, so it's basically impossible to UNBIND these. REALLY not good given how limited keybinds are. Those are PAHE so they are not saved by DoM. I can add them though. Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, InsanityFactor said: Would it be possible to have the paired animations toggle collisions for their durations, kind of like SexLab? As far as I can tell, if you use a collision mod like Precision, the NPC can get pushed around during the animation, like the body inspect animation usually shoves the NPC like 5 feet away when my player character moves his arms. SexLab anims perform just fine however, I'm not sure what the difference is. Neither I am... Ideally they should have mesh collision to allow for breast and butt deformation but NPC should not deviate from their global position. I am not sure Skyrim is up to it. Edited October 5, 2022 by TrollAutokill 1 Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Good Provider said: With enough slaves, the status messages stack up and push some of the messages down to the lower left where they end up behind the black letter box created during dialog. If these are the messages from the current slave, it makes them unreadable. Hmm, I guess it depends on your screen resolution, I will add a maximum number of message widgets in the MCM. Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 8 hours ago, f95nobody said: Thanks for making this mod and the incredible update frequency. Kudos! Sadly, I may have a bit of a problem. I cannot talk to slaves via the usual interaction (approaching and pressing 'E'). They'll respond like a regular NPC with some one-liner. However, interacting with them through the wheels sees to work just fine. When they try to escape and I catch them, then I get dialog options, which are mostly functional (sex & bondage), but the punishment option (whipping) does not seem to do anything. Is that intended behavior? If not, any tips on how to fix this? In case it helps, here is my load order (sorry 300 mods, added DOM quite recently, but reproduced the behavior on a fresh save): Reveal hidden contents # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ccbgssse002-exoticarrows.esl ccbgssse003-zombies.esl ccbgssse004-ruinsedge.esl ccbgssse006-stendarshammer.esl ccbgssse007-chrysamere.esl ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl ccbgssse019-staffofsheogorath.esl ccbgssse020-graycowl.esl ccbgssse021-lordsmail.esl ccmtysse001-knightsofthenine.esl ccqdrsse001-survivalmode.esl cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm cceejsse001-hstead.esm ccqdrsse002-firewood.esl ccbgssse018-shadowrend.esl ccbgssse035-petnhound.esl ccfsvsse001-backpacks.esl cceejsse002-tower.esl ccedhsse001-norjewel.esl ccvsvsse002-pets.esl ccbgssse037-curios.esl ccbgssse034-mntuni.esl ccbgssse045-hasedoki.esl ccbgssse008-wraithguard.esl ccbgssse036-petbwolf.esl ccffbsse001-imperialdragon.esl ccmtysse002-ve.esl ccbgssse043-crosselv.esl ccvsvsse001-winter.esl cceejsse003-hollow.esl ccbgssse016-umbra.esm ccbgssse031-advcyrus.esm ccbgssse040-advobgobs.esl ccbgssse058-ba_steel.esl ccpewsse002-armsofchaos.esl ccbgssse041-netchleather.esl ccedhsse002-splkntset.esl ccbgssse064-ba_elven.esl ccbgssse063-ba_ebony.esl ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.esl ccbgssse060-ba_dragonscale.esl ccbgssse051-ba_daedricmail.esl ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.esl ccbgssse025-advdsgs.esm ccffbsse002-crossbowpack.esl ccbgssse013-dawnfang.esl cceejsse004-hall.esl Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm paradise_halls.esm Pahe_Dragonborn_fixes.esl MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim II.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm Heels Sound.esm NewmStrangeDress.esl EFFCore.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm Occ_Skyrim_Tamriel.esp 3DNPC.esp Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm paradise_halls_farengars_study.esl ZaZAnimationPack.esm ITortureFramework.esm Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm FlowerGirls SE.esm FlowerGirls SE - BDSM.esm TrueHUD.esl SkyUI_SE.esp Obsidian Weathers.esp SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp FNIS.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp RaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp CBBE.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 3BBB.esp SexLabDefeat.esp JK's College of Winterhold.esp JKs Skyrim.esp paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp Devious Devices SE patch.esp SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp pahe-tdf-patch.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp AutoHideAmmo.esp Immersive Jewelry.esp HPP - Vaermina's Torpor.esp Serial Strip Merged.esp Skyland_Watercolor_Blue.esp BlendedRoads.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp Audiobooks of Skyrim.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp UIExtensions.esp RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp WetandCold.esp Footprints.esp Celtic Music in Skyrim - Combat.esp Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_SE.esp Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_SE_Dungeon.esp SmartCast_1_0.esp SwiftPotion.esp JaxonzRenamer.esp RaceMenuHH.esp Chapter II - Soundtrack mod by Dreyma Music.esp AddItemMenuSE.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp MCMHelper.esp FEC.esp KS Hairdo's.esp imp_helm_legend.esp DynastyArmor10.esp DynastyArmor4.esp DynastyArmorBase.esp DynastyArmorLight10.esp DynastyArmorLight4.esp DynastyArmorLightBase.esp BikiniAscendVolume1.esp DOA Lingerie Collection.esp SexyVest.esp [Melodic] Hardcore.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp RDO Updated.esp AI Overhaul.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp JK's Understone Keep.esp JK's The Bards College.esp BlackthornManor.esp Helgen Reborn.esp MajesticMountains_Moss.esp LoS II - JKs Skyrim patch.esp WICO - Immersive People.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp JK's Castle Dour.esp JK's Blue Palace.esp MoreBanditCamps.esp JK's High Hrothgar.esp LC_BuildYourNobleHouse.esp JK's The Winking Skeever.esp JK's Temple of the Divines.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp AmorAdvExtended.esp JK's Sky Haven Temple.esp JK's Arnleif and Sons Trading Company.esp JK's Jorrvaskr.esp JK's Mistveil Keep.esp JK's Haelga's Bunkhouse.esp JK's Temple of Mara.esp JK's Palace of the Kings.esp JK's Temple of Dibella.esp JK's The Hag's Cure.esp hydra_slavegirls.esp hearthfireextended.esp JK's Sinderion's Field Laboratory.esp JK's Dragonsreach.esp JK's Silver-Blood Inn.esp Stendarr Rising.esp JK's Elgrims Elixirs.esp JK's Bee and Barb.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp MajesticMountains.esp JK's New Gnisis Cornerclub.esp JK's The Pawned Prawn.esp TheScarlett.esp MillwaterRetreat.esp JK's Riverwood Trader.esp JK's Radiant Raiment.esp Slaverun_Reloaded.esp HeljarchenFarm.esp Inigo.esp JK's The Bannered Mare.esp JK's White Phial.esp RiversideShack.esp WindstadMine.esp PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp JK's Sleeping Giant Inn.esp JK's Angelines Aromatics.esp JK's Temple of Talos.esp JK's Candlehearth Hall.esp BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp JK's The Ragged Flagon.esp JK's Septimus Signus's Outpost.esp PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp JK's Bits and Pieces.esp EtR_HearthfireDungeonAddon.esp ImprovedHearthfireLighting.esp LABikiniSSE.esp JK's Arcadia's Cauldron.esp SofiaFollower.esp LoS II - BlackthornManor patch.esp Spoils of War.esp LoS II - CRF patch.esp BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp JK's Sadris Used Wares.esp JK's Temple of Kynareth.esp JK's Riverfall Cottage.esp DeviousBanditCaptives.esp CaranthirTowerReborn.esp East Reach House.esp pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp Damsels in Distress.esp Darkend.esp SkyfallEstateBuildable.esp SlaversKeep.esp SOS - Shop.esp LADX_SSE.esp JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp JKs The Drunken Huntsman.esp FNISspells.esp Skyland-AIO.esp LoS II - 3DNPC addon.esp The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED.esp Fachry Brothel Riften.esp Lucien.esp PAHSlaveCart.esp KinkyPrison.esp DiaryOfMine.esp (Pumpkin)-TEWOBA-TheExpandedWorldofBikiniArmor.esp LazyBikiniOutfits.esp Ultimate Lingerie Collection.esp C5Kevs_Yumiko_Light_Tank_Armor_CBBE.esp RagBikini.esp CrownHelmetsRedux.esp Ultimate Lingerie Collection 2.esp DW.esp Bijin AIO.esp KSHairdosSMP.esp KSWigsSMP.esp Bijin AIO - Hair Physics.esp WICO - Immersive Character.esp WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp WICO - Wild Hunt Gears.esp 3DNPC0.esp 3DNPC1.esp KSHairFor3DNPC.esp EFFDialogue.esp RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp WeightlessGoldCoins.esp ZAPFurniturePlacer.esp dse-buttplug.esp SlaveTats.esp SmoothCam.esp TrueDirectionalMovement.esp SerialStrip.esp SerialStripper.esp 3DNPC - AI Overhaul Patch.esp Immersive Speechcraft.esp RS3DNPC.esp LoS II - SMIM patch.esp LoS II - USSEP patch.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp My Home Is Your Home (MHiYH 2plus) dialogue patch.esp Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp LycHairstyler.esp Devious Devices - Equip.esp Stendarr Rising - CRF Patch.esp LoS II - HelgenReborn patch.esp FlowerGirls SE - Subdue.esp 3DNPC - CRF Patch.esp 3DNPCEFF.esp DeadlySpellImpacts Transparency Fix.esp imp_helm_USSEP.esp AI Overhaul - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Patch.esp Apropos2.esp Amorous Adventures Text and Player Dialogue Revision.esp SexLab Extra Voices.esp SLACS.esp Hydra KShairs.esp ZaZAnimationPack_Voice.esp TDF Enhanced Prostitution.esp TDF_AP_IndHookersPlug_In.esp TDF Indie Config Quest.esp JailRape.esp JailRape_Voice.esp JK's Belethor's General Goods.esp JK's Warmaiden's.esp Stendarr Rising - Los II patch.esp Stendarr Rising - RDO patch.esp Stendarr Rising - RDO Update Patch.esp Pahe_AltStartLAL.esp Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp Ambient Slaves SE.esp AS-3DNPC Compatibility Patch.esp AS-CRF Compatibility Patch.esp AS-LOS Compatibility Patch.esp AS-SMIM Compatibility Patch.esp Version information on the (probably?) most important dependencies: Skyrim SE 1.5.97 SKSE 2.00.20 SkyUI 5.2 FNIS 7.6 SexLab Framework 1.63 ZaZ 8+ CBBE HDT V.8.0+SEREV3 Devious Devices 5.1 SlaveTatsSE 1.3.7.7 Paradise Halls Enhanced (PAHE) SSE 8.1.5 PAH Home Sweet Home 1.26 PAH And You Get A Slave! 0.57 PAH Diary of Mine 3.2.3 Thanks for any help you can offer. Unfortunately this is a well known Skyrim "feature" with dialogues. You'll have to try with the minimum amount of mods (your list should be fine) and add back other mods to find the conflict. Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Khe said: 3.2.2 wheel hotkey config menu is better. also, still unchanged typos under DOM02DialogueAnswerThanksRespect: "You are as wondrous as the etheral plane". should be ethereal then we have "<X> choose to stop waiting" which should be "chooses" after picking 'display' from the wheel, I can't get one of my slaves to do any poses, though forcing the 'humiliation' option fixed it. her neck also had this weird scrunched look like...uh...turtle. clothes order menu: "ripp-off" rip has only one 'p' further, yknow how there's that followup action from punish -> didnt pose -> <X>, where the slave will (may?) resume pose? it's not resuming the right pose and is instead defaulting to 'cute'. similar in the 'stops posing then resumes' dink. Given that I want my girls to be in the 'submissive' pose this is...not really acceptable. wouldn't be as big a problem except that I have to order them to do some other pose besides cute/submissive, then set them back to submissive, in order to get them back into the pose. worse, when one of 'em did the swap to 'cute' and I tried 'light', she is now in the cute poses with a torch. similarly, any other poses seem to get them stuck with the anim objects (one girl has a silver cup, one has a flower basket) also, idk if these are specifically PAH or your version of its scripts, but: all my slaves are listed as male in the PAH menu the option to rebind 'whistle' and 'mark': where's the 'reset' button since 'esc' doesnt work and instead just binds THAT button to them? ideally, whatever the 'system tab' base-game keybind is at the time should be the keybind input that forcibly REMOVES the keybindings. failing that, a manual 'reset all keybindings' button... hell, it wont let export the whistle keybind either, and wont accept importing either, so it's basically impossible to UNBIND these. REALLY not good given how limited keybinds are. They issues with keys should be reported to @CliftonJD I would modify the following lines in PAHE's code. In pahcore.psc Spoiler Function registerKeys() UnregisterForAllKeys() If Config.hotkey != -1 && Config.hotkey RegisterForKey(Config.hotkey) EndIf If Config.whistleKey != -1 && Config.whistleKey RegisterForKey(Config.whistleKey) EndIf If Config.modifierKey != -1 && Config.modifierKey RegisterForKey(Config.modifierKey) EndIf EndFunction In pah_mcm.psc Spoiler Int _hotkey = -1 Int Property hotkey Hidden Int Function Get() return _hotkey EndFunction Function Set(Int value) _hotkey = value EndFunction EndProperty Int _whistleKey = -1 Int Property whistleKey Hidden Int Function Get() return _whistleKey EndFunction Function Set(Int value) _whistleKey = value EndFunction EndProperty Int _modifierKey = -1 Int Property modifierKey Hidden Int Function Get() return _modifierKey EndFunction Function Set(Int value) _modifierKey = value EndFunction EndProperty ... Event OnOptionKeyMapChange(int option, int keyCode, string conflictControl, string conflictName) Bool Continue = True If (keyCode == 1) keyCode = 0 conflictControl = "" Endif If keyCode == 0 keyCode = -1 conflictControl = "" EndIf If (conflictControl != "") String msg If conflictName != "" msg = "$This key is already mapped to:\n'{" + conflictControl + "}'\n({" + conflictName + "})\n\nAre you sure you want to continue?" Else msg = "$This key is already mapped to:\n'{" + conflictControl + "}'\n\nAre you sure you want to continue?" Endif Continue = ShowMessage(msg, True, "$Yes", "$No") Endif If !Continue return endif If (option == hotKey_OID) _hotKey = keyCode SetKeyMapOptionValue(hotKey_OID, hotkey) PAH.RegisterForKey(hotKey) ElseIf (option == whistleKey_OID) _whistleKey = keyCode SetKeyMapOptionValue(whistleKey_OID, whistleKey) PAH.RegisterForKey(whistleKey) ;ElseIf (option == modifierKey_OID) ; _modifierKey = keyCode ; SetKeyMapOptionValue(modifierKey_OID, modifierKey) ; PAH.RegisterForKey(modifierKey) EndIf EndEvent ... Function SaveSettings() ;PAH_MCM PAHMenu = Game.GetFormFromFile(0x06009157, "paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp") As PAH_MCM zbfSexLab ZAZ = Game.GetFormFromFile(0x0200CD14, "ZaZAnimationPack.esm") As zbfSexLab ; SetKeyMapOptionValue(hotKey_OID, hotkey) ; Ints JsonUtil.SetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "markkey", hotkey) ; Floats JsonUtil.SetFloatValue("pahe/Settings.json", "PostDelay", postRapeDelay) ; Bools JsonUtil.SetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "renametoggle", renameToggle as Int) JsonUtil.SetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "recheck_Player_Gender_Toggle", recheck_Player_Gender_Toggle as Int) JsonUtil.SetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "allwaysaggressive", PAH.bAlwaysAggressive as Int) JsonUtil.SetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "allways_Punish_aggressive", PAH.bAlways_Punish_Aggressive as Int) JsonUtil.SetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "leashtoggle", leashToggle as Int) JsonUtil.SetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "NudityToggle", MandateNudityToggle as Int) JsonUtil.SetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "outfittoggle", NakedOutfitDisabled as Int) JsonUtil.SetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "outfit_Uniques_Only_toggle", NakedOutfit_Uniques_Only as Int) JsonUtil.SetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "zazoverride", ZAZ.bOverrideSexLabAnimation as Int) JsonUtil.SetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "CattleToggle", VampireCattleToggle as Int) JsonUtil.SetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "HotKey", hotKey as Int) JsonUtil.SetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "WhistleKey", whistleKey as Int) JsonUtil.SetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "ModifierKey", modifierKey as Int) JsonUtil.Save("pahe/Settings.json") EndFunction Function LoadSettings() ;PAH_MCM PAHMenu = Game.GetFormFromFile(0x06009157, "paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp") As PAH_MCM zbfSexLab ZAZ = Game.GetFormFromFile(0x0200CD14, "ZaZAnimationPack.esm") As zbfSexLab ; Ints _hotKey = JsonUtil.GetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "markkey", -1) ; Floats postRapeDelay= JsonUtil.GetFloatValue("pahe/Settings.json", "PostDelay", 15.0) ; Bools renameToggle = JsonUtil.GetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "renametoggle", 1) recheck_Player_Gender_Toggle = JsonUtil.GetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "recheck_Player_Gender_Toggle", 1) PAH.bAlwaysAggressive = JsonUtil.GetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "allwaysaggressive", 0) PAH.bAlways_Punish_Aggressive = JsonUtil.GetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "allways_Punish_aggressive", 0) leashToggle = JsonUtil.GetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "leashtoggle", 1) MandateNudityToggle = JsonUtil.GetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "NudityToggle", 0) NakedOutfitDisabled = JsonUtil.GetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "outfittoggle", 0) NakedOutfit_Uniques_Only = JsonUtil.GetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "outfit_Uniques_Only_toggle", 0) ZAZ.bOverrideSexLabAnimation = JsonUtil.GetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "zazoverride", 0) VampireCattleToggle = JsonUtil.GetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "CattleToggle", 0) hotKey = JsonUtil.GetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "HotKey", -1) whistleKey = JsonUtil.GetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "WhistleKey", -1) modifierKey = JsonUtil.GetIntValue("pahe/Settings.json", "ModifierKey", -1) ForcePageReset() EndFunction Edited October 5, 2022 by TrollAutokill Link to comment
f95nobody Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said: Unfortunately this is a well known Skyrim "feature" with dialogues. You'll have to try with the minimum amount of mods (your list should be fine) and add back other mods to find the conflict. Thanks for the reply. I will try rebuilding the modlist with a new profile starting with a minimal set. Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 5 hours ago, InsanityFactor said: Would it be possible to have the paired animations toggle collisions for their durations, kind of like SexLab? As far as I can tell, if you use a collision mod like Precision, the NPC can get pushed around during the animation, like the body inspect animation usually shoves the NPC like 5 feet away when my player character moves his arms. SexLab anims perform just fine however, I'm not sure what the difference is. Not sure neither. Sexlab doesn't toggle off collisions to my knowledge and uses the same SetDontMove() and SetRestrained() functions. Main difference is Sexlab snaps back actors into place if they move away too much from the animation marker position. I am not sure which event to use to trigger this Snap() function though. 1 Link to comment
sidfu1 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 trying to figure out the json. is 0 the most left number and 100 more to the right? for example "smartness": 20.0 does this mean she 20% smart or 20% dumb Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, sidfu1 said: trying to figure out the json. is 0 the most left number and 100 more to the right? for example "smartness": 20.0 does this mean she 20% smart or 20% dumb 20% smart, so rather dumb actually. For most personality stats, mean is 50 and expected standard deviation on one side is 10. That means in a purely theoretical world only 16% of the actors would have a smartness at 30 or lower, 3% would have 30 or lower, 0.15% would have 20 or lower, 0.005% (500 in 10 million) would have 10 or lower and 3 in 10 million would have 0. Same distributions in the other direction for 60, 70, 80, 90 and 100. But Skyrim is a fantasy world and it's more fun to have more variation in my opinion. It makes sense when you take into account the number of actors portrayed in the game compared to what would be the actual total population of Skyrim. I read somewhere you have to multiply the number of actors in the game by 1000 to get the real population, that means 3 in 10 000 would be 0 or 100 smart if those are the most important to portray. That's 3.4 deviations instead of 5, so expected standard deviation to use in game could be 10*5/3.4 = 15, or if you prefer 2.5% of the actors could be smart at 20 or lower. Still not enough in my opinion ?so I decided to use 20 for DOM random generation. Edited October 5, 2022 by TrollAutokill Link to comment
f95nobody Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: Unfortunately this is a well known Skyrim "feature" with dialogues. You'll have to try with the minimum amount of mods (your list should be fine) and add back other mods to find the conflict. I've followed your advice, but the issue persists. The following load order is as minimalistic as I could make it by simply disabling mods without running into dependency issues between installed patches (47 active mods, 42 non-CC esm/esp). For some obscure reason I cannot deactivate Flower Girls SE, because MO2 attributes a dependency from 3BBB.eps (need to figure out where that is coming from, it makes no obvious sense) Spoiler Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ccbgssse002-exoticarrows.esl ccbgssse003-zombies.esl ccbgssse004-ruinsedge.esl ccbgssse006-stendarshammer.esl ccbgssse007-chrysamere.esl ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl ccbgssse019-staffofsheogorath.esl ccbgssse020-graycowl.esl ccbgssse021-lordsmail.esl ccmtysse001-knightsofthenine.esl ccqdrsse001-survivalmode.esl cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm cceejsse001-hstead.esm ccqdrsse002-firewood.esl ccbgssse018-shadowrend.esl ccbgssse035-petnhound.esl ccfsvsse001-backpacks.esl cceejsse002-tower.esl ccedhsse001-norjewel.esl ccvsvsse002-pets.esl ccbgssse037-curios.esl ccbgssse034-mntuni.esl ccbgssse045-hasedoki.esl ccbgssse008-wraithguard.esl ccbgssse036-petbwolf.esl ccffbsse001-imperialdragon.esl ccmtysse002-ve.esl ccbgssse043-crosselv.esl ccvsvsse001-winter.esl cceejsse003-hollow.esl ccbgssse016-umbra.esm ccbgssse031-advcyrus.esm ccbgssse040-advobgobs.esl ccbgssse058-ba_steel.esl ccpewsse002-armsofchaos.esl ccbgssse041-netchleather.esl ccedhsse002-splkntset.esl ccbgssse064-ba_elven.esl ccbgssse063-ba_ebony.esl ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.esl ccbgssse060-ba_dragonscale.esl ccbgssse051-ba_daedricmail.esl ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.esl ccbgssse025-advdsgs.esm ccffbsse002-crossbowpack.esl ccbgssse013-dawnfang.esl cceejsse004-hall.esl Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm paradise_halls.esm Pahe_Dragonborn_fixes.esl Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm paradise_halls_farengars_study.esl ZaZAnimationPack.esm ITortureFramework.esm FlowerGirls SE.esm SkyUI_SE.esp FNIS.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp CBBE.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 3BBB.esp paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp Devious Devices SE patch.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp MCMHelper.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp EtR_HearthfireDungeonAddon.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp SOS - Shop.esp paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp FNISspells.esp PAHSlaveCart.esp SlaveTats.esp DiaryOfMine.esp Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp The bug persists on a new save (capturing the female Stormcloak soldier in the first combat encounter in Helgen Keep at a<50% health after following Hadvar). When I just disable Diary of Mine in the above list, I can interact with her and get the regular set of dialog options. With Dom enabled she will just react with a blurb and I get no dialog options. I've revisited my full modlst and found the same issue. Without DoM everything works as expected (including Speechcraft), with DoM I can't talk to captives via interaction (but with the menu wheels). I'll try to strip the modlist down even further by setting up a separate instance. Edited October 5, 2022 by f95nobody Link to comment
banditguy Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Pleaseeee fix the slave arousal issue....it gets so annoying when you are busy training your slave, and despite doing nothing sexual, she goes "huuuuu noooooooo im getting wet". It was funny at first but now i wanna reach through the screen and strangle the slaves XD. 1 Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 51 minutes ago, banditguy said: Pleaseeee fix the slave arousal issue....it gets so annoying when you are busy training your slave, and despite doing nothing sexual, she goes "huuuuu noooooooo im getting wet". It was funny at first but now i wanna reach through the screen and strangle the slaves XD. What is it you're doing to them? Just whipping? Link to comment
banditguy Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 They get aroused all the time. Even when im not whipping them, their mood has cooled down and i order them to do something like be a maid or serve drinks, not too long later they are aroused. Even when we are just exploring through skyrim they will yelp out how wet they are. They'll be blushing all the time...cant even remember what my slave looks like without the blush tat. Link to comment
BloodDollMaria Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 27 minutes ago, banditguy said: They get aroused all the time. Even when im not whipping them, their mood has cooled down and i order them to do something like be a maid or serve drinks, not too long later they are aroused. Even when we are just exploring through skyrim they will yelp out how wet they are. They'll be blushing all the time...cant even remember what my slave looks like without the blush tat. I have the same problem... 2 Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 28 minutes ago, banditguy said: They get aroused all the time. Even when im not whipping them, their mood has cooled down and i order them to do something like be a maid or serve drinks, not too long later they are aroused. Even when we are just exploring through skyrim they will yelp out how wet they are. They'll be blushing all the time...cant even remember what my slave looks like without the blush tat. Are they naked? Are they in love? Both might increase the arousal factor. But I do agree that the arousal factor needs to be tuned. It's also not dependent on the mood right now, that should be fixed soon. Link to comment
Good Provider Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 The transition from DoM to sold/doing tricks/etc is too sharp. She goes from loving/fearing/loyal to hate. At the very least her feels (especially fear) of me should at most suffer decay, not drop off a cliff. If she is working for me, I still own her and she knows it. She wouldn't be rude. could you add a link to wheel mod you are using to the recommended list on the download page Link to comment
CliftonJD Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 10 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: 14 hours ago, Khe said: also, idk if these are specifically PAH or your version of its scripts, but: all my slaves are listed as male in the PAH menu Weird, I am pretty sur eI never had that. agreed that is weird 14 hours ago, Khe said: also, idk if these are specifically PAH or your version of its scripts, but: all my slaves are listed as male in the PAH menu try a reboot from the status button in pahe main page 14 hours ago, Khe said: the option to rebind 'whistle' and 'mark': where's the 'reset' button since 'esc' doesnt work and instead just binds THAT button to them? ideally, whatever the 'system tab' base-game keybind is at the time should be the keybind input that forcibly REMOVES the keybindings. failing that, a manual 'reset all keybindings' button... hell, it wont let export the whistle keybind either, and wont accept importing either, so it's basically impossible to UNBIND these. REALLY not good given how limited keybinds are. so we need import/export of the whistle and a means for resetting the whistle and mark keys? 1 hour ago, banditguy said: They get aroused all the time. Even when im not whipping them, their mood has cooled down and i order them to do something like be a maid or serve drinks, not too long later they are aroused. Even when we are just exploring through skyrim they will yelp out how wet they are. They'll be blushing all the time...cant even remember what my slave looks like without the blush tat. are they wearing devious devices when they're getting aroused at all hours for no apparent reason Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Good Provider said: The transition from DoM to sold/doing tricks/etc is too sharp. She goes from loving/fearing/loyal to hate. At the very least her feels (especially fear) of me should at most suffer decay, not drop off a cliff. If she is working for me, I still own her and she knows it. She wouldn't be rude. could you add a link to wheel mod you are using to the recommended list on the download page That should be SkyUI but I'll check. Link to comment
banditguy Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: Are they naked? Are they in love? Both might increase the arousal factor. But I do agree that the arousal factor needs to be tuned. It's also not dependent on the mood right now, that should be fixed soon. not naked and they very much dislike me...their mood fluctuates from hate to fear to shock atm. 1 hour ago, Good Provider said: The transition from DoM to sold/doing tricks/etc is too sharp. She goes from loving/fearing/loyal to hate. At the very least her feels (especially fear) of me should at most suffer decay, not drop off a cliff. If she is working for me, I still own her and she knows it. She wouldn't be rude. ^^^^very true...i did comment about this issue a while back. They very much act like robots with switching modes most of the time...i feel like after some training, the "hate" feeling should be disabled. Think about it, you spend hours whipping and basically torturing your slave into submission, but no less than 3 minutes later shes frowning at you like a damn moron, why would she do that? Even if she despises you on the inside, she'd be too beat up and afraid to show it on the outside. Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, banditguy said: not naked and they very much dislike me...their mood fluctuates from hate to fear to shock atm. ^^^^very true...i did comment about this issue a while back. They very much act like robots with switching modes most of the time...i feel like after some training, the "hate" feeling should be disabled. Think about it, you spend hours whipping and basically torturing your slave into submission, but no less than 3 minutes later shes frowning at you like a damn moron, why would she do that? Even if she despises you on the inside, she'd be too beat up and afraid to show it on the outside. There is no Hate feeling or mood per say. "Hate" is just a measurement of how close the slave is to fall in love with the player. As DoM treat "love" as a consequence of abuse like with Stockholm Syndrom, it is happening very sharply, Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Good Provider said: The transition from DoM to sold/doing tricks/etc is too sharp. She goes from loving/fearing/loyal to hate. At the very least her feels (especially fear) of me should at most suffer decay, not drop off a cliff. If she is working for me, I still own her and she knows it. She wouldn't be rude I am not sure what you're talking about here. Transition from DoM to sold? Also there is no such thing as "hate" feeling. You need to describe better the setting. Link to comment
banditguy Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 sorry, i meant the anger feeling. 1 Link to comment
TrollAutokill Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, banditguy said: sorry, i meant the anger feeling. Slaves going easily into anger just need more anger training. It depends on their personality. Threaten them against being angry to boost the process. If she is often angry, maybe she is sensitive to anger. If she is not afraid maybe she is resistant to fear. Check her personality and post a screenshot of the results here. DoM is made so different slaves behave differently. Mood swing can be annoying and might need further tweaking, but the way DoM works is to determine the first reaction to being captured between 3 moods, according to personality: 1) anger (fight back) 2) afraid (find a way to escape) 3) terrified (paralyzed by fear). After some time and training the slaves will switch to, according to personality and the kind of abuse they endure: 1) sad (more whipping is in order) 2) scared (the right mood to scold them) 3) ashamed (time for some raping) All the abuse will eventually lead to obedient slaves using moods: 1) shocked (momentarily) 2) broken (more stable, but usually happens after several shocks) Edited October 5, 2022 by TrollAutokill Link to comment
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