Luka9470 Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, kf05 said: It´s an AYGAS-thing. I never had it since i never played the Civil-War-Questline, but according to the Support-Thread of AYGAS it´s an intended outcome to find the protagonists of the losing faction as slaves. You probably will meet even more of them enslaved, like Balgruuf or Elisif Yes, I've met it before in the civil war, but this time, I found them overlapping in the palace and unable to move or interact?I've never seen anything like this before Edited May 4, 2022 by Luka9470
Gukahn Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Luka9470 said: Yes, I've met it before in the civil war, but this time, I found them overlapping in the palace and unable to move or interact?I've never seen anything like this before What in the name of everything holy.. Is that? That looks like it came straight out of lucifers ass ?
Antiope_Apollonia Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 58 minutes ago, Luka9470 said: I found them overlapping in the palace and unable to move or interact?I've never seen anything like this before Open console, select one, type "TAI", and close the console. Repeat until that stack is cleared.
Luka9470 Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, Antiope_Apollonia said: Open console, select one, type "TAI", and close the console. Repeat until that stack is cleared. Yes, they turn back into corpses after typing "Tai", I think these are just some of the characters that AYGAS cloned. I can't even find where Maven is right now..... 1
Plegra Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 On 5/1/2022 at 2:43 PM, Gukahn said: if you don't understand this: Skyrim and required extensions: Skyrim SE or LE (this mod was not tested with AE) Update, Dawnguard, Dragonborn Essential mods: SKSE UIExtensions JContainers Papyrus Extender SkyUI Zaz (recommended is 8+) Sexlab PAHE You are going to have a very hard time modding your game. Screw LL´s searchbar and use google to look for this mods. thanks, the mod works but for some reason it dont play animations do u maybe now why?
Gukahn Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Plegra said: thanks, the mod works but for some reason it dont play animations do u maybe now why? not without knowing anything about your modlist /load order and/or your FNIS Log. Put it in a spoiler if you post it
Plegra Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 13 minutes ago, Gukahn said: not without knowing anything about your modlist /load order and/or your FNIS Log. Put it in a spoiler if you post it eh idk realy what u mean maybe its on the settings cus i didnt config anything i can show u my mod list ;
kf05 Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) Can it be that FNIS is missing? (+SexlabAnimtionLoader) I don´t know what "All in One" might be/include. Also, do you have any animation-packs installed? On the other hand you did not mention anything about t-posing characters, and Sexlab(at least LE-Version) already comes with animations. hmm? Edited May 4, 2022 by kf05 added
Gukahn Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Plegra said: eh idk realy what u mean maybe its on the settings cus i didnt config anything i can show u my mod list ; that's not your entire modlist. Not helpful. FNIS log is the Wall of text fnis gives you when running it.
TrollAutokill Posted May 4, 2022 Author Posted May 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Plegra said: thanks, the mod works but for some reason it dont play animations do u maybe now why? 2 hours ago, Gukahn said: not without knowing anything about your modlist /load order and/or your FNIS Log. Put it in a spoiler if you post it As @Gukahn mentionned, and as written in the mod description, you have to install FNIS and run it to get any animation.
InsanityFactor Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Luka9470 said: Yes, I've met it before in the civil war, but this time, I found them overlapping in the palace and unable to move or interact?I've never seen anything like this before See that's the corpse clone issue I've been having, literally that exact thing. Those are dead bodies that have been cloned in PAHE, by aygas in this case. I have the same thing when I capture normal slaves. It just started appearing in my game a couple weeks ago. No fix I've found except using "shovels bury dead bodies" to clean them up because the disable command doesn't work for me. If tai makes them normal corpses then you may have found a better way to get rid of them, tai and then disable. Try that. The actual slaves are out there somewhere, those are just the copies and you can get rid of them. Edited May 4, 2022 by InsanityFactor
CliftonJD Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, InsanityFactor said: Those are dead bodies that have been cloned in PAHE, by aygas in this case. I have the same thing when I capture normal slaves. It just started appearing in my game a couple weeks ago. dom...
InsanityFactor Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, CliftonJD said: dom... Yeah idk, it doesn't seem to be affecting everyone, so there might be some secret incompatibility that's appeared. Now that I think about it I haven't had it happen on my new game/load order yet...
Gukahn Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, InsanityFactor said: Yeah idk, it doesn't seem to be affecting everyone, so there might be some secret incompatibility that's appeared. Now that I think about it I haven't had it happen on my new game/load order yet... You sure about that? The only reason why it doesn't happen for me is, cause i don't clone and enslave only unique npc´s. Once i enslave a generic one, let's say my last time with a Troll i logically clone them and get the same result a short while, just for me it was at the sanctuary. I think the cloning feature of Dom does this for almost if not everyone.. Or does anyone tested it and it didn't happen? ?
InsanityFactor Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 Just now, Gukahn said: You sure about that? The only reason why it doesn't happen for me is, cause i don't clone and enslave only unique npc´s. Once i enslave a generic one, let's say my last time with a Troll i logically clone them and get the same result a short while, just for me it was at the sanctuary. I think the cloning feature of Dom does this for almost if not everyone.. Or does anyone tested it and it didn't happen? ? I just assumed since it's so bizarre and disturbing that if was happening to everyone we'd be hearing about it here a lot more often. But idk maybe not
Antiope_Apollonia Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 I haven't seen it yet, and I mostly enslave generic NPCs, but I haven't been actually playing that much in recent versions—most of my Skyrim time has been going to testing things and working on my various projects.
sickboy791 Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) sometimes when slave perform "touch yourself" it switches between t- pose and pose... ( without dd or zap items) i tried to recreate that behavior to do a debug log. turned all log options on, saved, reloaded. and everything worked, hmm like magic fnis shows warnings Spoiler Duplicate AnimEvent B_B_SKiss1_A1_S1 for character, mods Billyy_Human and DiaryOfMine Duplicate AnimEvent B_B_SKiss1_A1_S2 for character, mods Billyy_Human and DiaryOfMine Duplicate AnimEvent B_B_SKiss1_A1_S3 for character, mods Billyy_Human and DiaryOfMine Duplicate AnimEvent B_B_SKiss1_A1_S4 for character, mods Billyy_Human and DiaryOfMine Duplicate AnimEvent B_B_SKiss1_A1_S5 for character, mods Billyy_Human and DiaryOfMine Duplicate AnimEvent B_B_SKiss1_A2_S1 for character, mods Billyy_Human and DiaryOfMine Duplicate AnimEvent B_B_SKiss1_A2_S2 for character, mods Billyy_Human and DiaryOfMine Duplicate AnimEvent B_B_SKiss1_A2_S3 for character, mods Billyy_Human and DiaryOfMine Duplicate AnimEvent B_B_SKiss1_A2_S4 for character, mods Billyy_Human and DiaryOfMine Duplicate AnimEvent B_B_SKiss1_A2_S5 for character, mods Billyy_Human and DiaryOfMine Duplicate AnimEvent Babo_ThreateningMMF_A3_S6 for character, mods Babo Human and DiaryOfMine is this save to ignore? don´t understand last "Babo_ThreateningMMF" since it is 3some what is the savest way to enslave someone, lets say a bandit, i always use enslave paralyzed clone and clean faction ? would be nice to have dom stable as pahe8.2 itself it feels like i´m missing something without it ? edit: also some dialouges seem a litle bit odd, like virginity, a bandit asks me about relatives or violence is not a solution i mean it is not but hey its a bandit who tried to kill me, edit: maybe it would be possible to do a seperate dialouge, bandit/citicen? edit: one more thing ... i always have to reinstall slavetats after dom update to have tears work, but then slave´s get´s invisible my L O Spoiler # Automatically generated by Vortex Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm PamaPrisonAlternative.esm PamaFurnitureScr.esp Amputator.esm paradise_halls.esm Pahe_Dragonborn_fixes.esl SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm CreatureFramework.esm paradise_halls_farengars_study.esl Simple No More Stupid Dog.esl GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp SkyUI_SE.esp Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp AnubAnimObj.esp PamaCruxification.esp PamaInteractiveBeatup.esp SexLabDefeat.esp sr_FillHerUp.esp SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp FITB - Unique Bandit Faces.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SlaveTats.esp Improved Telekinesis.esp DBM_ISC_Patch.esp NPCs_Wear_Amulets_Of_Mara.esp paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp TDF_AP_IndHookersPlug_In.esp pahe-tdf-patch.esp MoreVampireEyes.esp DustEffectsSSE.esp Minou Aradia Lace Dress.esp PuppetMaster.esp High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp High Level Enemies - Raised Ability Caps.esp PamaYarm.esp Poser Hotkeys.esp NewmPiercingsCBBESSE1.esp KSHairdosSMP.esp KSWigsSMP.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp SLAnimLoader.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp FleshFX.esp FleshFX IMsounds Compendium Patch.esp Moss Fix.esp Facial Piercings.esp High Level Enemies.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp hydra_slavegirls.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 3BBB-RacenamePatch.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp ZaZ Rabbit and Chicken Death Fix.esp FEC.esp Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenuSE.esp Smilodon - Combat of Skyrim.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp MaximumCarnage.esp TimingIsEverything.esp VioLens SE.esp SexLabTools.esp 3BBB.esp SOSPhysicsManager.esp CBBE.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp Runandwalkpaces.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp dD-Medium Script Range.esp dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp Super Simple Needs.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp Potema Fix.esp No NPC Greetings.esp No More Standing Too Close SSE 1-0.esp icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp Customizable Camera.esp AMatterOfTime.esp RaceMenuHH.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp XPMSE.esp iHUD.esp MCMHelper.esp FNIS.esp BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp No Makeup FaceTints on Vanilla NPCs.esp Purewaters.esp AKSkyrimUnderground.esp SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp Hydragorgon Furniture Patch.esp Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp TheChoiceIsYours.esp BCS_TCIY_Patch.esp SolitudeOvergrown01.esp SkyrimSewers.esp PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp TKAA.esp DBM_IW_Patch.esp DBM_Wintersun_Patch.esp Tools of Kagrenac.esp DBM_TOK_Patch.esp PrisonAlternative_Executions_Riften.esp DBM_CRF_Patch.esp PrisonAlternative_Executions_WindHelm.esp DiaryOfMine.esp The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED.esp _GSPoses.esp DBM_IA_Patch.esp DBM_SkyrimSewers_Patch.esp DBM_SolitudeOvergrown_Patch.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp DX Necromancer Robes.esp JailRape.esp bm_SimpleAction.esp spelleraser.esp JaxonzEnhGrab.esp FNISspells.esp SexLab Extra Voices.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Edited May 4, 2022 by sickboy791 1
TrollAutokill Posted May 4, 2022 Author Posted May 4, 2022 12 hours ago, Luka9470 said: Yes, I've met it before in the civil war, but this time, I found them overlapping in the palace and unable to move or interact?I've never seen anything like this before My first guess is they have always been there. What's wrong is the "there", the marker was certainly moved from a hidden cell to the Skyrim world. That would explain why they are at the same position and AI is disabled. I'll check the markers used in the scripts to see if there are some badly re-used. 2
TrollAutokill Posted May 4, 2022 Author Posted May 4, 2022 4 hours ago, InsanityFactor said: See that's the corpse clone issue I've been having, literally that exact thing. Those are dead bodies that have been cloned in PAHE, by aygas in this case. I have the same thing when I capture normal slaves. It just started appearing in my game a couple weeks ago. I thought you had dead bodies, as laying on the floor with havok physics on. Those are mannequins, unmovable actors without AI and using the default pose.
TrollAutokill Posted May 4, 2022 Author Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Luka9470 said: Yes, I've met it before in the civil war, but this time, I found them overlapping in the palace and unable to move or interact?I've never seen anything like this before 4 hours ago, InsanityFactor said: See that's the corpse clone issue I've been having, literally that exact thing. Those are dead bodies that have been cloned in PAHE, by aygas in this case. I have the same thing when I capture normal slaves. It just started appearing in my game a couple weeks ago. No fix I've found except using "shovels bury dead bodies" to clean them up because the disable command doesn't work for me. If tai makes them normal corpses then you may have found a better way to get rid of them, tai and then disable. Try that. The actual slaves are out there somewhere, those are just the copies and you can get rid of them. Did you use DoM's "Set an example" or "I told you to call me master/mistress" dialogue or hotkeys in or around those same exact spots? Or maybe the put in/out bag feature? One of the marker could be wrongly assigned to one of the PAHE's or AYGAS's markers. Edited May 4, 2022 by TrollAutokill
Kalysto Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 12:02 PM, CliftonJD said: had a suspicion the script wouldn't work how it was written, but wasn't sure. think its a matter you don't know who the resulting actor will be. using the command Capture_70Sub_Slave takes that into account. i can add resignation to that for next update if you need it I checked "Capture_70Sub_Slave" in PAHE source but it also doesn't return anything because it's just a wrapper to CaptureBase(captive, 1) which doesn't return anything. As you said I can't asume that the actor I pass to CaptureBase() is the same as the resulting slave because it might get killed off and cloned. And setting Submission and Resignation is dead simple because they are properties, so that's not a problem at all. I'm more worried in all those checks that are implemented in CaptureBase before and after AddSlave is called inside (to prevent enslaving a HSH slave and clone if needed and stuff I don't really understand). For now I'm using this in specific quest related NPCs which are handpicked so the risk is lower.
InsanityFactor Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said: Did you use DoM's "Set an example" or "I told you to call me master/mistress" dialogue or hotkeys in or around those same exact spots? Or maybe the put in/out bag feature? One of the marker could be wrongly assigned to one of the PAHE's or AYGAS's markers. Aha! That would do it, yep. I always thought it was weird how they ended up in or around whatever my player base happened to be, across multiple new games and different areas entirely: inside my player bases and in the streets of some major cities. And guess what I do at all those places? Publicly humiliate the slaves. I don't use the bag and I do the choking thing only inside, not in the streets, so it must be that. Maybe this guy was publicly humiliating some slaves in front of Ulfric? @Luka9470 Sounds like we found it. 1
TrollAutokill Posted May 4, 2022 Author Posted May 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, Kalysto said: I checked "Capture_70Sub_Slave" in PAHE source but it also doesn't return anything because it's just a wrapper to CaptureBase(captive, 1) which doesn't return anything. As you said I can't asume that the actor I pass to CaptureBase() is the same as the resulting slave because it might get killed off and cloned. And setting Submission and Resignation is dead simple because they are properties, so that's not a problem at all. I'm more worried in all those checks that are implemented in CaptureBase before and after AddSlave is called inside (to prevent enslaving a HSH slave and clone if needed and stuff I don't really understand). For now I'm using this in specific quest related NPCs which are handpicked so the risk is lower. You have to setup your code against PAHE alone first. Make sure it works. Then compile against DoM, and if a function call is different, I will adjust. 1
InsanityFactor Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said: I thought you had dead bodies, as laying on the floor with havok physics on. Those are mannequins, unmovable actors without AI and using the default pose. Well as if this isn't weird enough, they'll pose like that, but the actual bodies are on the ground, invisible. I have that body collision mod, so I trip on the invisible corpses, and the "search" prompt only appears on those, not the visible t-posers. I posted a screenshot a while back, showing this exact thing. And I'm realizing now that they get spread around the different spots where you've publicly humiliated them. If you only did it once, they get stacked on top of each other like that, but if you do it multiple times, they get divided evenly around each spot.
TrollAutokill Posted May 4, 2022 Author Posted May 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, InsanityFactor said: Aha! That would do it, yep. I always thought it was weird how they ended up in or around whatever my player base happened to be, across multiple new games and different areas entirely: inside my player bases and in the streets of some major cities. And guess what I do at all those places? Publicly humiliate the slaves. I don't use the bag and I do the choking thing only inside, not in the streets, so it must be that. Maybe this guy was publicly humiliating some slaves in front of Ulfric? @Luka9470 Sounds like we found it. Ok, I will make sure those use a different marker. It seems like they are using the clonemarker, and not putting it back in the utility cell. Just bury the corpses in the meantime. 1
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