devious skyrim Unforgiving Devices

[krzp]

5 hours ago, DonQuiWho said:

So, what exactly triggers the application of UD items?  Is there a list of mods that will do that, or Is it that this mod is maybe supposed to provide devices that will be used by other 'triggering mods' IN THE PLACE of the current DD 5.2 items?

This mod mostly deals with devices AFTER the application, it provides a better escape system for the regular DD things, that actual feels like a game instead of the random generated casino roll system of the og DD. Plus a number of other features, ask random NPC for help, that sort of stuff.

 

However, if I remember correctly, UD does alter (or create) a trap that spews goo at you in random dungeons, which equips a ton of devices at you at once and makes your dungeoneering a little... spicier. And, there's a device-escaping quest in there somewhere.

Edited June 28, 2023 by krzp

[kurotatsu]

9 hours ago, DonQuiWho said:

I don't see any clear list of 'trigger' mods anywhere here

 

So, what exactly triggers the application of UD items?  Is there a list of mods that will do that, or Is it that this mod is maybe supposed to provide devices that will be used by other 'triggering mods' IN THE PLACE of the current DD 5.2 items?

 

 

UD is mostly framework, providing new mechanics on devices, it's own and patched from DD and DCL. Also it has modified goo traps. If you want a bit more content with it - please try expansion mod

 

[DonQuiWho]

2 hours ago, kurotatsu said:

 

UD is mostly framework, providing new mechanics on devices, it's own and patched from DD and DCL. Also it has modified goo traps. If you want a bit more content with it - please try expansion mod

 

 

That explains a lot ... ?

 

Thanks

 

DQW

[Un Rama]

Nice, I like the quest for the abadond plug,

I know this big, but i hooe you can make this happen :

 

How about, for the next stories for Abadon plug, if you fail remove the plug in the first place (Note: for this quest please just make the plug only, and dont make additional restraint with full restraint, as time go make the plug add the restraint one by one like vaginal abadon plug for the first stage-> abadon nipple -> abadon clit piercing, -> , abadon anal plug, -> abadon chastity belt, abadon chastity bra -> abadon metal collar, -> abadon metal arm cuff and abadon metal leg cuff), and  put some mark on the belly of the pc like lewdmark tattoo if her fail to remove the plug on time.

 

as the plug get stronger and the player get lost her sanity put some lewdmark on her forehead. After that if the condition get going and you still fail to remove it the player character accepted her fate add more lewdmark at clavage of her chest bone area/heart as surrenderness mark, and after that. 

 

The plug will consume you, and become ABADON SLAVE. And the Full Chastity gear  (like vaginal abadon plug for the first stage-> abadon nipple -> abadon clit piercing, -> , abadon anal plug, -> abadon chastity belt, abadon chastity bra -> abadon metal collar, -> abadon metal arm cuff and abadon metal leg cuff) become permanent locked on your player character.

 

FIRST QUEST (ABADON HERO)
After 30 time orgasms as abadon slave with full chastity gear, The plug apetite get stronger and stronger, the plug will tell you to find a secret armor, and read a statue with a lore about secret armor, the armor will help you to reduce his apetite, because if he make you too exhausted from orgasm that will kill you, this quest will lead you make abadon plug as partner for adventure and can summon an armor that can be equiped or unequiped with some condition (if you want to use it you must turn on the plug with magic skill and must orgasm 3 times and if you want to unequiped you must turn on the plug too with magic skill and orgasm 3 times) with basic form is Full abadon chastity gear, once you where the armor you the armor can be unlocked when you you equip it. but you must do some adventure to find the armor one by one like restrictive set without straitjacket, and turnout the plug was tricked you, actually the lore not about the "ABADON HERO" but "ABADON SLAVE HERO" to make you get stronger for his apetite and not gonna die if too exhausted, because the orgasm. And the plug now not gonna force you to orgasms to feed him, but you must serve him for orgasm per-day.

 

To trigger the next quest :

After you become abadon slave hero, after the plug become hunger and you forget to feed him just say it 2 days, the plug will angry with you and will punished you, because you forget to do some plessure to your body, the punishment is the plug will lockyou on 'full Cursed abadon restrictive restraint' and will force you to orgasm for two days without stop.

 

SECOND QUEST (ANOTHER WAY TO FEED HIM)

If you get punished after 2 times, triggered the second quest, you will get letter from unknown npc from the courier, that she know how sattisfied the plug hunger with an item that have same function for feed the plug without orgasm way, but you must do some quest gather item for potion, every item has unic location to gather, and you still have posibilities to get punished, after you gathered all item you brought to Nobada again abd you can buy it the potion "Nobada" with high price because the rare item to make the potion, aftet thar you can make it by yourself by bought the receipt from nobada but you must promoted the abadon device on female shop NPC, but the NPC will accept the offer if she turn on the plug first and you know what happen next ?, after this you will see a 1 or 2 woman NPC not part of the skyrim patch will possesed by Abbadon device on every city.

 

After this you will go to Nobada and nobada tell you the potion stock is empty.

 

THIRD QUEST (ABADON SLAVE FOLLOWER) 

 

Because the high price and the avaibility of the item for make the potion you will give an option from nobada and triggered the third quest, the quest that can make you free roam on skyrim without get punished if you forgot feed the plug for two days, for that, you must capture one female slave for serve him, as you not in the place for serve him, This quest will Increase your limit time from 2 days to 4 days

 

BEFORE THAT, first you must make some adventure to collect abbadon statue fragment for Plug Statue/shrine, and you must find the fragment one by one, and with the plug that you have together and with help from nobada she will help to make abadon plug god statue/shrine, and you will get temple and you can live in the temple and you can make the temple as player house. and there we go you make GOD OF THE ABADON PLUG, and you must find a Slave for feed him when you not arround.

 

And before go to do adventure to search the slave you must have fullfill 1 and 2 option while roaming (turn on the plug for feed the abadon plug or bought a potion for feed the abadon plug that you bought from the nobada) to sattisfied the plug or it can be a problem. If you dont wanna get punished when do the adventure.

 

FOUR QURST (THE ABADON WORSHIPER)

And the last you must 

If you forget about your time limit again After that the slave will exhausted and the God of abadon plug will punish you both with Full cursed abadon restraint. And torture both of you with pleasure for two days (This Slave latter can be follower after abadon worshiper finished), 

 

In this state you can free roam with yourself and the plug for 4 days, and you can still summon youre armor without orgasm feeding, and boost your condition with the special armor.

 

expand of the third quest, you just need search slave by save a captured 6-10 woman by a bandit, and as the return you will ask them to become god of abadont plug servant and worshiper. Place the Slave you save on Abadon furniture (reference like on DISPLAY MODEL mod) but with attached Abadon Feeder plug). And there we are you have worshiper for your god.

 

And now you will Free roam without time limit in skyrim with the Abadon Plug inside you free to bound your self with restraint armor or free your body and but the plug remain attached to your hole forever,  ( This quest need to be finished if you wanna do the real skyrim quest, some of that need to change oytfit to trigered) and i think the plug not gonna be a problem

 

PLEASE MAKE IT ON THE RESTRICTIVE ONE ??.

 

 

 

###And for the device in abadon device can you make the device with theme restrictive restraint or we can choose the device theme that can bind you before the starting the quest. I know you have been make the theme, but when i play the abadon quest another binding device that have another theme get locked at my PC, I prefer BLACK EBONITE RESTRICTIVE RESTRAINT, ###

 

Edited June 29, 2023 by Un Rama

[krzp]

I got super bored playing without a voicepack, so I've learned how to xVAsynth, and did one myself.

 

Ran around Whiterun for a test, most of it sounded fine... ish, so do tell me if something sounds especially bad or if some lines are missing.

This is my first go at this, I'd be glad for tips on how to fix or improve it too ?

UnforgivingDevices_voicepack.7z

[alternateaccounts]

I've been running around with this mod for about 20 hours and have never managed to struggle, cut, or unlock my way out of a device. I know it's possible because I set a follower's lockpick skill to 100 and they could get me out, but I would really appreciate difficulty slider that just affects overall escape chance without having to micromanage MCM.
Great mod by the way.

Edited June 30, 2023 by alternateaccounts

[SamBooka]

At some point i started getting constant orgasms, i have no idea how to counter that.

Any insights?

[muriyume]

On 6/27/2023 at 12:52 PM, ihatemykite said:

Few questions first

1. Do you use LE or SE/AE/VR ?
2. Do you have Devious Cursed Loot installed ?
3. Does the mod install/update normally or does the whole mod hangs on the mcm loading (check console for that)
4. Do you have autoload option enabled (option that will force mod to auto init variables to saved ones on new game)

 

EDIT: Also, what exactly is happening to MCM. Does it show some message, or does it not load at all ?

SE
I do have DCL, but I'm on the fence about it.

Not sure. I don't see anything regarding UD in the console.

I do have autoload enabled.

 

Image attached. In another new save, I got a message on the MCM saying it's updating. No idea what is going on here. It's seemingly random whether or not the MCM decides to work.

 

Sorry I took so long to respond; I don't open LL that often and I don't receive email notifications as I disabled them.

 

Edit: Added save files if you decide to look at them. I've looked at one of these recently, and I nothing I did to edit them fixed the issue.

Edit2: This is with the Nightly Build.

Save16_CCD7F93C_0_416B756D61_AbandonedPrison01_000024_20230630233257_1_1.ess Save2_C63F0638_0_416B756D61_AbandonedPrison01_000001_20230628081601_1_1.ess

Edited June 30, 2023 by muriyume
Added save files.

[ihatemykite]

19 hours ago, muriyume said:

SE
I do have DCL, but I'm on the fence about it.

Not sure. I don't see anything regarding UD in the console.

I do have autoload enabled.

 

Image attached. In another new save, I got a message on the MCM saying it's updating. No idea what is going on here. It's seemingly random whether or not the MCM decides to work.

 

Sorry I took so long to respond; I don't open LL that often and I don't receive email notifications as I disabled them.

 

Edit: Added save files if you decide to look at them. I've looked at one of these recently, and I nothing I did to edit them fixed the issue.

Edit2: This is with the Nightly Build.

Save16_CCD7F93C_0_416B756D61_AbandonedPrison01_000024_20230630233257_1_1.ess 8.17 MB · 0 downloads Save2_C63F0638_0_416B756D61_AbandonedPrison01_000001_20230628081601_1_1.ess 7.77 MB · 0 downloads

All messages in console which have use [UD] are from UD. Do you have ConsoleUtil installed ? Without iot the mod will not show console logs. Also, from looking at the saves, I recommend you to use LOOT to reorder your mod order, as for example the Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch is loaded after DD, when the mod should be loaded as first thing after main game. If even after using LOOT you still have an issue, you might try to temporarily disable Blush When Aroused, as its the only mod creating suspended scripts in the save3 you shared. In second save, there are many threads, which are most likely created by transferring many devices at once. But that should have nothing to do with the MCM.

 

On 6/30/2023 at 2:37 PM, SamBooka said:

At some point i started getting constant orgasms, i have no idea how to counter that.

Any insights?

Does it mean that you are getting orgasm forever (spamming messages and animations) or that the animations just doesn't end ?

 

On 6/30/2023 at 1:22 PM, alternateaccounts said:

I've been running around with this mod for about 20 hours and have never managed to struggle, cut, or unlock my way out of a device. I know it's possible because I set a follower's lockpick skill to 100 and they could get me out, but I would really appreciate difficulty slider that just affects overall escape chance without having to micromanage MCM.
Great mod by the way.

Does it mean that devices are too hard, or not working ? Also, NPCs lockpick skill should have no effect on lockpick minigame, as that just opens skyrim lockpick minigame with player stats. Are you sure you have the mod installed correctly ?

[ihatemykite]

On 6/29/2023 at 2:08 PM, Un Rama said:

Nice, I like the quest for the abadond plug,

I know this big, but i hooe you can make this happen :

Nice work. I like some of the ideas. But implementing the whole thing as you described would be not possible for multiple reasons. Still, might get inspired by some of the ideas. Mainly the one about the worshipers and orgasm per day requirement.

Edited July 1, 2023 by ihatemykite

[Un Rama]

9 hours ago, ihatemykite said:

Nice work. I like some of the ideas. But implementing the whole thing as you described would be not possible for multiple reasons. Still, might get inspired by some of the ideas. Mainly the one about the worshipers and orgasm per day requirement.

This is my Slave, As i said before abaout the cursed tattoo after you submit to the plug:

I've ben editin the position of lewdmark for my slave with pain.net.

for the body i used COR.

and for some point can you make leaking goo that dripping from the PC, an item from ZAZ if the player have a plug inside her like you add drol and tear evect?

 

For the Armor this is the armor that i prefer.

 

 

For free hand orgasm and horny, its been colaborated from another mod : DD.rar

Edited July 2, 2023 by Un Rama

[krzp]

1 hour ago, Un Rama said:

and for some point can you make leaking goo that dripping from the PC, an item from ZAZ if the player have a plug inside her like you add drol and tear evect?

Try this.

[Un Rama]

38 minutes ago, krzp said:

Try this.

Ive try that, and the intrval of the drip is too fast. LOL

[alternateaccounts]

11 hours ago, ihatemykite said:

Does it mean that devices are too hard, or not working ? Also, NPCs lockpick skill should have no effect on lockpick minigame, as that just opens skyrim lockpick minigame with player stats. Are you sure you have the mod installed correctly ?

I think they are just too hard? I see the condition declining, but I've gained like 10 levels in onehanded and lockpicking from trying to struggle out of the stuff without ever managing to get out. I had an NPC follower full of items keep struggling until all of them were off (automatically, I didn't tell her to struggle out of them), I also haven't managed to get out of anything by asking a follower to help. I'm pretty sure I installed everything correctly, unless there's something weird to take into account, been doing this for a few years.

Edited July 2, 2023 by alternateaccounts

[bannedspider51]

having an issue where the MCM Menu says "Updating or disabled" and it puts this into console

[Guest]

I'm having an issue with both animations and the game itself. first the arm animations do not apply, i use both fnis and nemesis with nemesis being launched after fnis but arm animations are overwritten by regular walk animation. I am on version 2.1b5 with ae 1.640, another thing is that orgasms cause the game to freeze sometime after but not immediately, i narrowed it down to that as there would be a freeze a short bit after an orgasm. i use vortex which idk how to export a modlist so if someone could tell me how to do that i could send that and the problem might be evident there

 

edit: I reinstalled UD and unchecked the custom dll option and that seemed to fix the crashing, i still have the problem with armbinder animations not applying although after reinstalling i had a situation in which the armbinder animation played in character creation on starting a new character

 

Edited July 4, 2023 by dabdabman69
update

[ihatemykite]

On 7/2/2023 at 9:17 AM, alternateaccounts said:

I think they are just too hard? I see the condition declining, but I've gained like 10 levels in onehanded and lockpicking from trying to struggle out of the stuff without ever managing to get out. I had an NPC follower full of items keep struggling until all of them were off (automatically, I didn't tell her to struggle out of them), I also haven't managed to get out of anything by asking a follower to help. I'm pretty sure I installed everything correctly, unless there's something weird to take into account, been doing this for a few years.

Does the durability get reduced at all while you struggle ? Also, do you hit the crits ?

On 7/3/2023 at 10:13 AM, bannedspider51 said:

having an issue where the MCM Menu says "Updating or disabled" and it puts this into console

Still not sure what is happening, I did some updates to the update loop, so once I finish it, please try the NB and let me know if there is any difference in the console

4 hours ago, dabdabman69 said:

I'm having an issue with both animations and the game itself. first the arm animations do not apply, i use both fnis and nemesis with nemesis being launched after fnis but arm animations are overwritten by regular walk animation. I am on version 2.1b5 with ae 1.640, another thing is that orgasms cause the game to freeze sometime after but not immediately, i narrowed it down to that as there would be a freeze a short bit after an orgasm. i use vortex which idk how to export a modlist so if someone could tell me how to do that i could send that and the problem might be evident there

 

edit: I reinstalled UD and unchecked the custom dll option and that seemed to fix the crashing, i still have the problem with armbinder animations not applying although after reinstalling i had a situation in which the armbinder animation played in character creation on starting a new character

 

Can you elaborate further on the freeze ? Does it happen while the actor is still in animation ? Or after it ends ? Also, do you have Use Native enabled in MCM ? If not, then I might have forgotten to add some ifs. Also, you can try latest NB, as the native plugin was updated, so it might hopefully no longer cause issues.

 

EDIT: Implemented the changes, please everyone who have issues with MCM or native plugin, try the following version. Also let me know if anything changed. There should be more info in console, so check it too.

 Download :

UnforgivingDevices_NB.zip

Edited July 4, 2023 by ihatemykite

[alternateaccounts]

34 minutes ago, ihatemykite said:

Does the durability get reduced at all while you struggle ? Also, do you hit the crits ?

Yes, durability decreases, haven't noticed crits.

[ihatemykite]

5 hours ago, alternateaccounts said:

Yes, durability decreases, haven't noticed crits.

Crits are very important as they make escaping devices much easier. If you use non vanilla HUD, it will probably not show. You will have to open MCM and in Custom Device tab, find crit effect and change it so it will use Body shader. That way, crit will be signalized by shader being applied on player. Green means D (Stamina key in MCM), Blue means A (Magicka key in MCM) (by default). You can also try to edit following MCM options to make devices easier to escape

• Patcher tab: Escape modifier (default 10) and Global multiplier (default 100%). You can try to reduce these values to make escaping easier. Note that this will only change difficulty of patched devices, Abadon devices will be same. Lastly, you can also try to edit the Max. resist sum which will prevent device from having too big resistance. It basically means that (Magick resist + Physical resist) < max. resist sum. (100% by default). Reducing it will result in resistance to be compensated by negative resistance (for example, if this is 50%, the max resist is 100% and -50%).
• Custom Devices tab: At the bottom, you can change the difficulty. If Use DD difficulty is enabled, you can also edit DD difficulty, and UD will also use it. You will some how relatively easier/harder will escaping be on the right as represented with numbers (default 100%). Editing the Level scaling might also make new devices easier. Changing health increase to 0.0% will basically disable level scaling, making all new device have 100 health, even if player have level 100.

Spoiler

 

 

 

[Guest]

11 hours ago, ihatemykite said:

Does the durability get reduced at all while you struggle ? Also, do you hit the crits ?

Still not sure what is happening, I did some updates to the update loop, so once I finish it, please try the NB and let me know if there is any difference in the console

Can you elaborate further on the freeze ? Does it happen while the actor is still in animation ? Or after it ends ? Also, do you have Use Native enabled in MCM ? If not, then I might have forgotten to add some ifs. Also, you can try latest NB, as the native plugin was updated, so it might hopefully no longer cause issues.

 

EDIT: Implemented the changes, please everyone who have issues with MCM or native plugin, try the following version. Also let me know if anything changed. There should be more info in console, so check it too.

 Download :

UnforgivingDevices_NB.zip 11.36 MB · 0 downloads

 

To elaborate the freeze would happen right after the orgasm animation would stop. when i reproduced the freeze it would commonly occur after a string of repeated orgasms in which after the 3rd or 4th one the game would freeze after the animation stopped playing, the issue seemed to have fixed itself after reinstalling the mod and unchecking the native dll option. the only issue i have remaining is the animation for armbinders not applying for which I'm mostly unsure of what is overwriting the animation in game and could possibly be an issue from UD DD or an addon I have.

Edited July 4, 2023 by dabdabman69
spelling error

[postal192]

Facing an issue with female followers not being able to struggle, cut or lockpick later at some point. It worked fine in the beginning. I could tell a follower to remove a certain restraint and she was trying her best to do so until it was gone. Then after some time, when I approach e.g. Lydia and tell her to open her vanilla inventory, it starts to get weird. I can see the devices, I click them and the query pops up what I want to do (Help xxx, Command xxx etc.) When I click an option I redirected immediately to the initial query where I can repeat the steps before. But nothing happens. After leaving the follower inventory, the message says "Lydia is already doing something" and this goes so far for every device and every kind of action. Also, the time-shielded locks seem to be broken on Lydia as she is sporting a bra right now which I try to unlock since 2 ingame days but unfortunately, the locks still say shielded for 2h.

 

I tried the general fixes debug buit it didn't solve anything.

 

I use Nether Follower Framework since it's the only one left still being in development.  But I use the vanilla inventory since the NFF aims exactly on the part to keep the follower system sleek and agile and not overwhelm it like AFT or EFF used to do at some point.

[donttouchmethere]

17 minutes ago, postal192 said:

When I click an option I redirected immediately to the initial query where I can repeat the steps before. But nothing happens. After leaving the follower inventory, the message says "Lydia is already doing something" and this goes so far for every device and every kind of action.

I had the same issue because I didn't see any feedback (for example: "too exhausted") after choosing an option in the message box.

Only the first interaction in inventory will have any result, if you start more actions via message box without closing the inventory first you will always see "... is already doing something", because of the first action you had chosen in inventory. Basically in your case Lydia is busy with the first action from the inventory interaction.

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/165197-unforgiving-devices/page/62/

ihatemykite quote:

• This is sadly a bug with the IWantWidget. It will not show the text if other menu is open. You can just disable the option in MCM and it should again show the classing left top corner messages.

[postal192]

17 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

I had the same issue because I didn't see any feedback (for example: "too exhausted") after choosing an option in the message box.

Only the first interaction in inventory will have any result, if you start more actions via message box without closing the inventory first you will always see "... is already doing something", because of the first action you had chosen in inventory. Basically in your case Lydia is busy with the first action from the inventory interaction.

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/165197-unforgiving-devices/page/62/

ihatemykite quote:

• This is sadly a bug with the IWantWidget. It will not show the text if other menu is open. You can just disable the option in MCM and it should again show the classing left top corner messages.

 

Thank you for the reply. However, this doesn't seem to be a solution for the problem. I worked through the thing with the MCM and yes, I see the message. But I also saw it before. The script for trying to break free simply seems to be hung up. Or am I understanding something wrong here?

[ihatemykite]

On 7/5/2023 at 10:23 PM, postal192 said:

Facing an issue with female followers not being able to struggle, cut or lockpick later at some point. It worked fine in the beginning. I could tell a follower to remove a certain restraint and she was trying her best to do so until it was gone. Then after some time, when I approach e.g. Lydia and tell her to open her vanilla inventory, it starts to get weird. I can see the devices, I click them and the query pops up what I want to do (Help xxx, Command xxx etc.) When I click an option I redirected immediately to the initial query where I can repeat the steps before. But nothing happens. After leaving the follower inventory, the message says "Lydia is already doing something" and this goes so far for every device and every kind of action. Also, the time-shielded locks seem to be broken on Lydia as she is sporting a bra right now which I try to unlock since 2 ingame days but unfortunately, the locks still say shielded for 2h.

 

I tried the general fixes debug buit it didn't solve anything.

 

I use Nether Follower Framework since it's the only one left still being in development.  But I use the vanilla inventory since the NFF aims exactly on the part to keep the follower system sleek and agile and not overwhelm it like AFT or EFF used to do at some point.

The NPC cant be in any scene, and in animation. Enable the warnings in MCM and try to check console after the message is shown. It should let you knopw what exactly is the mod hanging on. But this might be not implemented in existing beta 5, so you might try latest NB version. In general, the minigame will not start if one of following is true (which will show the message you are referring to)

• NPC is already in minigame
• NPC is animating (either sexlab animation or DD animation)
• NPC is dead
• NPC is disabled
• NPC is in scene

It is possible that the NPC framework you are using have put the lydia in some scene. Please enable warnings and check the console as I said earlier and let me know what is causing the issue. Also, the latest NB can be downloaded here https://github.com/IHateMyKite/UnforgivingDevices/releases/tag/NB

Edited July 7, 2023 by ihatemykite

[donttouchmethere]

6 hours ago, ihatemykite said:

the latest NB can be downloaded here

You should add a warning that it can only be downloaded during the night ?