AAF Family Planning Enhanced Redux

[Invictusblade]

6 minutes ago, Ashmar50 said:

Should FPE Load before or after wasteland Dairy with all the changes going on i want the best load order. Thanks for all your hard work.

doesn't matter, both are independent of each other.

but Baby addon and More creature is when they start to merge

 

btw Family Planning Enhanced used to be an ESP but I was getting really tired of fixing errors when playing around with Creation Kit so I made it into an ESM

[Durante]

Need a guide for what all the new features do, the names are too confusing and the descriptions are too short.

 

And my experience so far is that I updated from the previous FPE and after an hour all pregnancies were ended as births. And that's a non issue, but one settler is now missing the baby, its as if it walked out of the inventory by itself.

[Magenta147]

I thought the baby add-on(Creatures) are already included still have to download them. lol

[Sleepy_Soul]

So with the Multiple Births feature along with WDF installed, you'll repeatedly birth the number of eggs you are pregnant with at each UpdateTime cycle, but the actual number of eggs inside you won't go down.

 

Is this the intended behavior? I assumed the number of eggs in you would go down, but maybe it's not possible to alter a pregnancy's stats once it's in progress?

[Invictusblade]

48 minutes ago, Sleepy_Soul said:

So with the Multiple Births feature along with WDF installed, you'll repeatedly birth the number of eggs you are pregnant with at each UpdateTime cycle, but the actual number of eggs inside you won't go down.

 

Is this the intended behavior? I assumed the number of eggs in you would go down, but maybe it's not possible to alter a pregnancy's stats once it's in progress?

so how it is designed(whether or not it performs as intended) around smaller creatures like chickens or rabbits so instead of a laying 3-4 eggs, you get 2 laying 3-4 eggs. but some may be just eatable eggs

or a deathclaw pregnancy of 6 months with an egg being birth in month 3

 

it is an idea and I am not sure if it is worth it yet

 

 

btw I might be swapping around MCM settings so multiple births might move to WDF

[Sleepy_Soul]

I got knocked up with initially four Bloodbug eggs - the pregnancy lengths lasted only three months. I use 'set FPFP_Internal_UpdateTime to 3' to get more frequent body morph updates, but the side effect of this is every three hours I was popping out four eggs. Eventually the 5 pound eggs started to pile up in the inventory, so I started just shoving them in random containers in Sanctuary. Eventually I gave birth to all of them, and moved on through the main questline. I then see 'blah blah has grown up in Sanctuary' notifications start spamming, but I'm busy with other stuff, so I eventually forget about them.

 

Eventually, I fast travel back to Sanctuary, only to be attacked by a horde of bloodbugs. Haven't have a good laugh like that in a while.

[mmmyummyrat]

Hey I was just wondering if the babies get auto placed into your characters/the NPCs inventory, my character and some of my settlers gave birth but I cant find a baby item in any of our inventories, I'm currently just running this mod + requisites, is there another one I need for the actual baby or have I just left my child on the floor of the superdupermart

[Invictusblade]

4 hours ago, dodger0788 said:

Hey I was just wondering if the babies get auto placed into your characters/the NPCs inventory, my character and some of my settlers gave birth but I cant find a baby item in any of our inventories, I'm currently just running this mod + requisites, is there another one I need for the actual baby or have I just left my child on the floor of the superdupermart

are you using WDF or only Family Planning Enhanced?

[VaunWolfe]

I have a suggestion for a perk. After a certain number of beast pregnancies gives a chance for wild animals to take advantage of the player. 

[Invictusblade]

7 minutes ago, VaunWolfe said:

I have a suggestion for a perk. After a certain number of beast pregnancies gives a chance for wild animals to take advantage of the player. 

I am not sure if that is possible

however it would be possible to make a stronger version of wasteland whisperer

I will have a think about it (especially how to do it for creatures only(because all of the injectors from WDF use the same mechanic)

[mmmyummyrat]

10 hours ago, Invictusblade said:

are you using WDF or only Family Planning Enhanced?

I was also using WDF at one point but whenever I opened the pause menu or the MCM menu it crashed the game so I uninstalled it and just used family planning

[pleasetryme]

@Invictusblade could there be an option in the menu with baby genders, i was hoping to have only daughters but had like 9 males and 1 female. 

and would be amazing if the child or was a way they were like pipers daughter or cait curie etc, like piper just gave birth to a baby girl obviously that would work if baby gender locked. 

[Invictusblade]

49 minutes ago, pleasetryme said:

@Invictusblade could there be an option in the menu with baby genders, i was hoping to have only daughters but had like 9 males and 1 female. 

and would be amazing if the child or was a way they were like pipers daughter or cait curie etc, like piper just gave birth to a baby girl obviously that would work if baby gender locked. 

well I already have this in WDF Baby Addon.

and there is cloning in it as well

[mmmyummyrat]

2 hours ago, dodger0788 said:

I was also using WDF at one point but whenever I opened the pause menu or the MCM menu it crashed the game so I uninstalled it and just used family planning

okay so I've removed everything but Family planning, WDF  and the required mods and it still crashes when I press esc or access mcm but now its graduated to crashing on opening the pip boy too

 

[Invictusblade]

38 minutes ago, dodger0788 said:

okay so I've removed everything but Family planning, WDF  and the required mods and it still crashes when I press esc or access mcm but now its graduated to crashing on opening the pip boy too

 

so I think the problem lies somewhere else. I assumed you are using the latest (and Legal) Version of Fallout 4?

 

go into your data folder and do the following

1. Update F4SE (Again if you have already updated)

2. test that

3. rename MCM (NOT DELETE)

4. test that

5. rename Interface (NOT DELETE)

6. test that

[Durante]

I uncovered a serious bug. If updating from the old FPE as I've said pregnancies are finished with instant births. However the mod multiplies the children when converting them from babies. 3 babies? 6 children

 

 

Edit: It's an absolute bloatware now. The children multiply into grown up settlers too. And then they stay without getting removed.

 

[VonHelton]

On 2/28/2021 at 6:11 AM, dodger0788 said:

okay so I've removed everything but Family planning, WDF  and the required mods and it still crashes when I press esc or access mcm but now its graduated to crashing on opening the pip boy too

 

 

I bet it's a script file......Look in your Scripts folder for files that don't belong.

 

[VonHelton]

On 2/28/2021 at 6:54 AM, Invictusblade said:

so I think the problem lies somewhere else.

 

Ego did ALOT of mods......Will you be doing those as well?

 

[VonHelton]

21 hours ago, Durante said:

I uncovered a serious bug. If updating from the old FPE as I've said pregnancies are finished with instant births. However the mod multiplies the children when converting them from babies. 3 babies? 6 children

 

Edit: It's an absolute bloatware now. The children multiply into grown up settlers too. And then they stay without getting removed.

 

Did you just overwrite or fully delete?

 

[Durante]

6 hours ago, VonHelton said:

 

Did you just overwrite or fully delete?

 

 

I disabled the old mod in MO so I guess delete would be the word.

[Invictusblade]

On 3/2/2021 at 5:45 AM, Durante said:

I uncovered a serious bug. If updating from the old FPE as I've said pregnancies are finished with instant births. However the mod multiplies the children when converting them from babies. 3 babies? 6 children

 

 

Edit: It's an absolute bloatware now. The children multiply into grown up settlers too. And then they stay without getting removed.

 

"99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs in the code. Take one down, patch it around 117 little bugs in the code."

 

there will be really weird bugs because here is the thing, I didn't change anything in the Growing Baby script and Growing Children script and I barely change anything in the main FPE script (FPFP_Player_Script)

 

so a few questions

which baby? wearable? misc?

which child?

because there are five Babies and ten children in FPE

 

and I won't even go into how many babies and children are in Baby Addon and More Creatures

 

edit-> I tested a new game, I spawn around 10 babies (I was testing the thing below) and all of them produced one child each.

there was a slight issue, but it is unrelated (I spawned two babies and received a third)

 

8 hours ago, VonHelton said:

 

Ego did ALOT of mods......Will you be doing those as well?

 

No, I doubt it, I only started working on FPE because it expanded my content on WDF

(but I will admit that I may have to undo some of my work on FPE, if there are more bugs in the future)

 

however I would admit that I would like to look at Commonwealth Captives (because I really like that mod) (I do have it but I won't share it)
 

besides sometimes scripting breaks my mind, I have been working a pregnancy manager (similar to overlay manager) for settlers which will use the options from MCM

to give settlers a human pregnancy or a creature pregnancy or a baby and then delete itself.

the script seems to be simple and working

but it keeps adding and adding (usually around 4 babies)

 

it turns out that the wait commands is the cause of the issues. no idea why

[Durante]

8 hours ago, Invictusblade said:

"99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs in the code. Take one down, patch it around 117 little bugs in the code."

 

there will be really weird bugs because here is the thing, I didn't change anything in the Growing Baby script and Growing Children script and I barely change anything in the main FPE script (FPFP_Player_Script)

 

so a few questions

which baby? wearable? misc?

which child?

because there are five Babies and ten children in FPE

 

and I won't even go into how many babies and children are in Baby Addon and More Creatures

 

edit-> I tested a new game, I spawn around 10 babies (I was testing the thing below) and all of them produced one child each.

there was a slight issue, but it is unrelated (I spawned two babies and received a third)

 

 

The "original" FPE gave me no issues unless some update had mucked things up.

 

All of the born babies are unwearable here. And how should I tell which child it is? They all look generic, dark haired male or female.

[Invictusblade]

On 3/2/2021 at 5:45 AM, Durante said:

I uncovered a serious bug. If updating from the old FPE as I've said pregnancies are finished with instant births. However the mod multiplies the children when converting them from babies. 3 babies? 6 children

 

 

Edit: It's an absolute bloatware now. The children multiply into grown up settlers too. And then they stay without getting removed.

 

by going into console, and click on them

or for babies, type the following on yourself(player.inv) or NPC(inv)

a few questions

1. how long is your save game (how many Hours or days)

2. did you have any pregnancies or babies during the update to the latest version (you do have v3.15, right?)

3. NPC or Player was the parent?

 

I just tested it again, with a load order ending at FPE. (No WDF)

and I still didn't get the issue

but I did find an old bug from WDF so I have to try fix that.

 

the baby in the carport is an armor baby (and produced one child)

the baby on the street is a MISC baby (and produced one child)

the baby on the NPC is an armor baby (and is bugged) (and produced one child)

[Invictusblade]

so does anyone else have the above issue? Multiple children from a single baby

 

also very important, unequip all babies from FPE because it is currently bugged

 

 

edit-> this bug is driving me crazy

so three choices

 

1. change the baby armor from the carrying one to the backpack baby

2. completely remove the wearable baby and return to the MISC Baby

3. leave it and hope for the best

[Spectre5342]

Is pregnancy supposed to alter the players values like Carry Weight and Action Points? As I progressed through pregnancy they reach zero possibly negative values. After birth the values didn't reset however after abortion the smaller change in values did revert. I'll test this with different actors and different npc's in pregnancy the one in this instance was from automotron and when it was birthed nothing happened so this might be a localized issue.