Prison Overhaul

[Eikichi Onizuka]

I try Prison Overhaul v29 with SL v1.57

Skull Fuck prison animation has no female sound fx..?  

[circ]

Waiting for this getting an upgrade to try this out but, I never end up in jail, except when doing Cidhna. I just don't get caught or pay the fine. Should I artificially criple myself and go with the jail option or is there some mod that makes the whole thing more natural? Maybe some corrupt Whiterun guards are running some kind of shakedown operation Riften style and when trying it on you, you just tell them to fuck off - oh jail?

[the_glow]

 

Waiting for this getting an upgrade to try this out but, I never end up in jail, except when doing Cidhna. I just don't get caught or pay the fine. Should I artificially criple myself and go with the jail option or is there some mod that makes the whole thing more natural? Maybe some corrupt Whiterun guards are running some kind of shakedown operation Riften style and when trying it on you, you just tell them to fuck off - oh jail?

Mod works even now. If you want more bounty without straight up cheating, use this mod http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/24187/

Just steal a horse when someone sees it and then wait for bounty hunter or guards to act.

[T_b_d4]

 

Lastly, when I was finally returned to the cell, I found I could not move back into first person mode. I tried saving, quitting, then loading, but it stayed the same. I'm also pretty sure I'm stuck in prison, because I initially set the maximum prison sentence to 10 days, then lowered that to two days when I got bored. It's been three in-game days and I'm still in prison.

 

All in all, I fucking love this mod. I just figured you might want to know about some of these issues. Thanks!

To resolve try to get into the fight stance.  (I had to go into magic for this to work) then get out of the fight stance.  You should be able to go back to first or third person view.

[traveller_phi]

 

Prison Overhaul works with SL 1.50 and SL 1.54. If you have another version, you're using PO at your own risk.

 

Never upgrade SL unless you require some feature in the new version. Ashal breaks things frequently and modders can't keep up, so you're unlikely to stay compatible.

 

Well, the problem with that is Ashal doesn't leave older versions of SL up for download. So if you decide you want a new version of a mod that requires SL 1.5x you have to upgrade to the latest SL version. You can't just pick a version that has the broadest support currently.

 

I am not saying that what xaz is saying above is not good advice, as it is generally. And as such I decided to wait for things to settle down and stabilize before upgrading anything. It also didn't hurt that I haven't had much time for Skyrim lately, so I didn't miss much by not upgrading on the bleeding edge. So being safe and careful I missed my chance to get SL 1.54

 

So my only current options are stay at SL 1.39 and the previous PO version, or upgrade everything and hope PO still works with 1.57. I am not saying Xaz owes us a 1.57 version of PO. I do hope he gets a chance eventually to confirm that Ashal didn't break PO in the progress to 1.57.

 

I suspect it should work fine on 1.57; from what I could follow on the SL thread 1.50 was the big backwards compatibility breaker release, and 1.54 had the maximum backwards compatibility stuff restored. But adding back the backwards compatibility broke some things (particularly MCM menu for people upgrading from 1.39) so some of the backwards compatibility was dropped or modified to fix those issues. So if 1.50 and 1.54 both work, I expect all the other 1.5x SLs will work as well. But you can't take anything for granted in Skyrim modding.

[xaz]

First I want to say I absolutely LOVE Prison Overhaul. It's now one of my must have mods. I love everything from the slow shameful walk to prison and to the pillory, to the vicious rape in my cell. I'm curious about a couple things, though.

 

The first is that no voice files play as NPCs berate me while I pass by. Is that a bug on my end, or are there just no voice files for this yet? I confess, I can't remember if such files exist in the vanilla game.

No, sadly I haven't found (or looked for) dialogue lines to go with those remarks. When I do find them, I'll make sure that it's fully voiced. I've downloaded some dump of the dialogue in Skyrim, so I'll see what I can come up with.

 

Suggestions are welcome. They don't have to be those exact lines.

 

The second is more of a suggestion. I would love to see executions added to this. I realize it's not for everyone, but the threat of execution for my actions is appealing to me, from both an immersion and sexual perspective. I'd love it if you could add that in, though I don't know if that's even possible (someone once told me the game gets finicky when you deal with player death animations).

I've considered putting executions in there. It's not on the top of my list, and modding time has been very limited for the past few weeks.

 

Perhaps a scaled progression of severity could be implemented; the first murder you're caught for, you're severely punished but not executed, maybe losing half your money and most of your possessions. The second murder, you lose all your money and all possessions. The third murder, you're heading for the chopping block (unless you escape). I really like the thought of being lead naked to the block, people booing me, perhaps throwing rotten fruit. And finally, forced onto the block like in the vanilla opening scene, the ax raised, the swing, my head goes rolling, the last thing I hear is the cheer of the crowd before all fades to black...

 

*ahem*

 

So yeah. If that's something that could be added, I'd love to see it.

[xaz]

Sooo.. the new version of this mod now requires the ALPHA version (1.70) of SKYSE? Srsly?

I agree. Talk to Ashal about it, it's SexLab that pulls in this dependency, and there's little I can do about it if I want to keep on using the new versions of SexLab.

[xaz]

just wondering when this mod will be updated to sl 157? I get warning when I load my game. it worked for a little will now I get locked up but no animations happen', cool mod but waiting for update.

Ok. I wasn't aware that SL broke again. I'll see what can be done about this. In the meantime, unless you absolutely have to, don't upgrade SexLab. It's just causing you these issues with mods not being compatible.

 

Or talk to Ashal and try to convince him to

1. Not break compatibility with mods out there. He probably knows what parts I'm using in PO.

_or_

2. Tell Ashal to create an integration example that he himself keeps updated. That way he'd know when things break, and us modders would know how it should be done. Instead of trying to figure that out on every single version of SL. (Although it's usually very small changes,...)

[xaz]

I found only one thing broken at the moment. First prison sentence works as intended even with 1.57. But guard can not make second arrest UNLESS you run "reset quests" from PO's MCM window. Then arrest and everything work again. It may not be the case, but I noticed that after quests reset on second arrest there was blank space and then "was unequipped" or something, so it could be that script dealing with player's inventory somehow becomes bugged during first arrest.

 

Is there any way to shorten trips to prison and out of prison when leashed to a guard? It takes way too long, more than I can afford to wait.

 

Edit: There is also a bug that prevents almost  every movement of regular camera. In this case you pretty much have to use SL's free camera function.

There is a fast forward feature that you can use. Have you tried that? If not, it may be what you're looking for. It's in MCM you can find it. I'll spend some time to make it more convenient in future updates.

[vipermagi]

I am currently running SexLab 1.57 and the latest version of Prison Overhaul and so far the only incompatability between the two is the one time pop up warning me PO isn't made for this version of SexLab and a thing in the MCM menu politely coughing. Everything else APPEARS to be just fine.

[xaz]

To test things out a bit more, I got myself arrested and set things higher (for instance, Pillory duration I set at 30 seconds), I enabled crowds, things like that. At one point a prison guard came into the cell, suspended my PC from the ceiling and whipped her for a good long while. When he was done, I noticed whip marks only showed on the PC's arms and nowhere else.

 

 

 

 

 

I know the whip marks can show up elsewhere, because later on my PC was taken outside and whipped in the pillory, and her back and legs and ass were completely covered in welts.

 

Another thing I noticed was when a guard decided to "have some fun" while my PC was in the pillory outside. He started by spanking her, then got down and started eating her ass. When he got back up, I noticed his arrow quiver stuck straight out of his back, like so:

 

 

 

 

 

Lastly, when I was finally returned to the cell, I found I could not move back into first person mode. I tried saving, quitting, then loading, but it stayed the same. I'm also pretty sure I'm stuck in prison, because I initially set the maximum prison sentence to 10 days, then lowered that to two days when I got bored. It's been three in-game days and I'm still in prison.

 

All in all, I fucking love this mod. I just figured you might want to know about some of these issues. Thanks!

I think the issue with whip marks could be that the things you're wearing are overriding the defualt body or so? Maybe it's connected to a different material or something similar? Just an idea ... and not sure what you could do about it.

 

Whip marks hit kind of weird when you're hanging, but I've not seen them apply to just the arms.

 

If you get stuck in camera mode, you could go into MCM for Zaz Animation Pack and check the PC control center there. It may be that some options are not restored on your character or something similar? Try to release the character there, or from the console "enableplayercontrols".

 

This doesn't have to be a problem with ZAP, but it's handled there at least in a manner that's easy to track.

 

The arrow quiver is a bug in ZAP with some bones connected to quivers iirc. I'll make a note of it and fix asap.

[xaz]

I should point out regarding 1.57 compatibility (which I won't look into today) that you will get a dialogue warning about versions, but it's just a warning. PO really has no idea if it will work or not, just that it isn't tested with later versions.

 

I'll see what I can do.

[Queen Bee]

Thanks, Xaz.

 

As for executions, an idea occurred to me that would make them real easy to do. Just have a guard lead the PC to a designated chopping block set up specifically for the scene, then fade to black. Clone the PC and put the clone in the execution, then move the PC to a position in the audience, locking their view in first person. Fade in, run the beheading animation, then game over a few seconds after. This means you don't get to experience your beheading in first person (Alas!) but it would circumvent many issues inherent in editing the first person execution animation.

 

You could even add in a bit prior to the execution where the guard asks you if you have any final words, and you can choose from a few in a dialog menu ("I regret nothing!" or "I'm innocent, I swear it!" or "I'll save you a seat in Oblivion!", that sort of thing).

[Eikichi Onizuka]

I should point out regarding 1.57 compatibility (which I won't look into today) that you will get a dialogue warning about versions, but it's just a warning. PO really has no idea if it will work or not, just that it isn't tested with later versions.

 

I'll see what I can do

You'll be Grateful..!

 

we could add some of the new animations added in the new SexLab, for example for punishment in the cell could be added for variations of rough sex more sex-position from SexLab, the new Threesome DP with two guards and new Doggystyle animations by Zynisch ?

 

 

NOTE: Prison Overhaul with SexLab v1.57 I have found that sometimes the hot-Keys for to align and reposition the characters do not work..!  

 

works only the U key to rotate the character, but the others to move (K, L, O, A) do not work!

[Trickle]

i just started using the mod with SL 1.57 so i don't quite know what the mod looks like when everything works, but in my case, I have to restart the mod after each arrest or subsequent arrests do not work. The guard just stands there like he is waiting for instruction instead of escorting the PC to the dungeon. I have this mod loading just before bashed patch.

[xaz]

 

I should point out regarding 1.57 compatibility (which I won't look into today) that you will get a dialogue warning about versions, but it's just a warning. PO really has no idea if it will work or not, just that it isn't tested with later versions.

 

I'll see what I can do

You'll be Grateful..!

 

we could add some of the new animations added in the new SexLab, for example for punishment in the cell could be added for variations of rough sex more sex-position from SexLab, the new Threesome DP with two guards and new Doggystyle animations by Zynisch ?

 

 

NOTE: Prison Overhaul with SexLab v1.57 I have found that sometimes the hot-Keys for to align and reposition the characters do not work..!

 

works only the U key to rotate the character, but the others to move (K, L, O, A) do not work!

 

Problems with positioning and so on is for Ashal to solve.

[xaz]

I don't think I'll be able to release a new version of PO any time before the weekend. Not sure even then, and in that case it's next week.

 

Ask Ashal about a SL 1.54 re-upload to solve compatibility issues.

[Eikichi Onizuka]

 

 

I should point out regarding 1.57 compatibility (which I won't look into today) that you will get a dialogue warning about versions, but it's just a warning. PO really has no idea if it will work or not, just that it isn't tested with later versions.

 

I'll see what I can do

You'll be Grateful..!

 

we could add some of the new animations added in the new SexLab, for example for punishment in the cell could be added for variations of rough sex more sex-position from SexLab, the new Threesome DP with two guards and new Doggystyle animations by Zynisch ?

 

 

NOTE: Prison Overhaul with SexLab v1.57 I have found that sometimes the hot-Keys for to align and reposition the characters do not work..!

 

works only the U key to rotate the character, but the others to move (K, L, O, A) do not work!

 

Problems with positioning and so on is for Ashal to solve.

 

I understand, but I wanted to specify that the problem only occurs when I use Prison Overhaul, when I use only SexLab v.1.57, all the hotkeys on the keyboard always work

 

in addition to the message of incompatibility with the latest version of SL, at the time found no other significant problems.

[Morferous]

in addition to the message of incompatibility with the latest version of SL, at the time found no other significant problems.

 

 

Did you also tested PO with Devious Devices patch, that was released previously in this thread? I could test it my self, but not before weekend, so I am curious to know.

[Eikichi Onizuka]

 

in addition to the message of incompatibility with the latest version of SL, at the time found no other significant problems.

 

Did you also tested PO with Devious Devices patch, that was released previously in this thread? I could test it my self, but not before weekend, so I am curious to know.

 

I have not yet had occasion!

 

recently I uninstall all SexLab mods, and only re-install SL v1.57 SL, ZaZ animations v5.52 and PO v29

[circ]

I tried PO with SL 1.57, and it was... kinda boring. I'm not sure how much of that was due to incompatability issues and how much was me disabling time scaling.

 

I got lead to the Dragonsreach dungeon, and got some really tame dialogue considering I had a 1k bounty. Finally got there, had some issues walking the steps. I get put in a cell and have to wait 3 hours or so until the jailer says yo, let's go downtown for rape. I enabled fast forward this time, but it crashes as I exit the cell, not the prison cell. Reload, works this time. Get put in some stocks and am greeted to a really bizarre show. In broad daylight a bunch of citizens from Whiterun whip me a little, I don't think there was any fx for the whipping and well the other part is due to the engine limitations so it kinda looked like I had a fly on my ass and they were kind enough to try to whisk it away.

 

Anyway, eventually Anorith or someone rapes me. Followed by Ysolda - how could you! And I don't know, I got bored and quit. All the while Carlotta was still selling her mechandise along with Fiola or whatever her name is and the kids were playing tag. Just, weird.

 

Maybe it's different for the dungeon scenes, but I was hoping for something a little darker but eh, part of that is engine limitations.

[shinji72]

You're watching a miracle of modding effort and say it was boring?
More or less from you're experience I guess the mod is working fine with 1.57.

I think you miss the complexity of having the PC being escorted back and forth from the prison (crossing cells), put in a pillory and punished with customized animations in the public square or in the jail in every city of Skyrim. All in a believable and imersive way. 

If you don't stare at this in awe but thinks it's boring (time scaling is there for a reason), then maybe your bar of expectation is a bit too high for what a modded game can become. 

[the_glow]

I understand, but I wanted to specify that the problem only occurs when I use Prison Overhaul, when I use only SexLab v.1.57, all the hotkeys on the keyboard always work

 

in addition to the message of incompatibility with the latest version of SL, at the time found no other significant problems.

Those keys worked for me. Make sure to select actor with K and then hammer movement keys (L and ; ), you have to press them many times.

[Loveryus]

My char doesn't even get imprisoned at the moment. My bounty was 600 and the limit was set to 500. They caught her, I clicked "Take me to prison" and the guard just left and nothing happened.

[crudo]

Yesterday I updated to SL 1.57 and of course all the other mods I favor.  Was sad to find out that my favorite mod, Prison Overhaul isn't compatible with 1.57.  Xaz, is that hard to fix/update?  Do you have plans to do that anytime soon?  Appreciate the mod, thanks!

 

Replying to my own post.  As others have written after this, PO does work with SL 1.57 and it works quite well.  I even tested with the mod, SlaverRun and with all the changes that does to the prison in Whiterun, PO still works.  The only real issue I have and I had this with the older version of PO and SL 1.39, is having to reset and then go change to my preferred settings in the MCM menu after every arrest.  Kind of a drag but it works.

 

Happy to be running PO again even with the hiccup of resetting.