Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[shiagwen]

On 10/17/2022 at 10:42 AM, HexBolt8 said:

Not a good idea.  Radiant Prostitution expects the madame/pimp to be in the innkeeper faction.  You'd have to remove all innkeepers from the innkeeper faction.

Not if you tweak RP. 

 

Edit : Here it is. Radiant Prostitution wraith slayer edition.

i simply added getinfaction curentfollowerfaction = 1 to the respective dialogues, so they have 2 conditions to appear :

Be in innkeeper faction ( the original )  and be in currentfollowerfaction.

The innkeepers are not your current followers and the followers are no innkeepers, so nobody has the prostituiton dialogues until you make your current follower to an innkeeper = pimp in Lola mcm or in console  addtofaction 5091b 0   ( -1 to release him from being pimp)

(theoretically you can also make an innkeeper to your follower via AFT )

 

Note that even if you have multiple followers only the one you made your pimp will have the dialogues.

 

MF_RadiantProstitution.esp

Edited October 18, 2022 by shiagwen

[Talesien]

4 hours ago, shiagwen said:

Not if you tweak RP. 

 

Edit : Here it is. Radiant Prostitution wraith slayer edition.

i simply added getinfaction curentfollowerfaction = 1 to the respective dialogues, so they have 2 conditions to appear :

Be in innkeeper faction ( the original )  and be in currentfollowerfaction.

The innkeepers are not your current followers and the followers are no innkeepers, so nobody has the prostituiton dialogues until you make your current follower to an innkeeper = pimp in Lola mcm or in console  addtofaction 5091b 0   ( -1 to release him from being pimp)

(theoretically you can also make an innkeeper to your follower via AFT )

 

Note that even if you have multiple followers only the one you made your pimp will have the dialogues.

 

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Quick way to do it, but the wrong way I'm afraid. That would require an update to that esp every time a new version of RP comes out. Worse, not everyone uses the same version of RP (LE or SE, various forks ...). The right way to do something like that would be to create an override esp.

[shiagwen]

3 hours ago, Talesien said:

Quick way to do it, but the wrong way I'm afraid. That would require an update to that esp every time a new version of RP comes out. Worse, not everyone uses the same version of RP (LE or SE, various forks ...). The right way to do something like that would be to create an override esp.

oh yes a new version of Rp, ,like last one 2016 .....!    Did you eat self collected Mushrooms today ?

[Hex Bolt]

Devious Devices 5.2 Beta 8 is available, for those who are interested (download link is just above the change log).

 

This change will be useful for the vibrating piercings:  "New keyword zad_BlockGenericEvents that can be put on a rendered device to signal DD not to play device events for this device."  With this new keyword, the piercings given by the owner will only vibrate when triggered by this mod, rather than being subject to random vibration events.

[Hex Bolt]

10 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

a new version of Rp

There are at least 2 versions of RP out there, plus LE and SE variants.  It's an okay approach for personal use (I do some of that myself), but it's risky for a mod to publish or rely on patches to other mods unless that's absolutely unavoidable.

[Talesien]

55 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

oh yes a new version of Rp, ,like last one 2016 .....!    Did you eat self collected Mushrooms today ?

 

You were saying?

Note that actually comes in two flavours (6.x and 7.x).
Even if you had been correct, it would still been two versions (LE and SE) that need to be taken into account.
I only pointed out that your approach is less than ideal. If you can't handle constructive critique and feel the need to respond with insults to it, that is regrettable.
 

[AnnaShapard]

is there a way to add an time-limit to "extended eyecandy"? i'm now 5 ingame days under that rule no matter what i do, where i go, or how often i fuck my mistress, she never dismisses it!:/ its one thing in holds or other cities, but i NEED my armor in Dungeons!:/ (i don't want to cheat hold events!)

[Hex Bolt]

54 minutes ago, AnnaShapard said:

is there a way to add an time-limit to "extended eyecandy"? i'm now 5 ingame days under that rule no matter what i do, where i go, or how often i fuck my mistress, she never dismisses it!

From the feature description, "Owner's arousal is the base chance that permission will be denied, and if so you'll have to ask again in a game hour and possibly be denied again."

 

When you have sex with your mistress, is that significantly lowering her arousal?  Depending on how you've configured SL Arousal and your sex mods, it might not be decreasing much.  (This mod attempts to lower the owner's arousal a lot after sex, but other mods might interfere with that.)  Have you checked your mistress' arousal?

 

The chance for rejection is owner's arousal + the MCM setting "Bonus rejection chance to wear clothes".  Have you adjusted this setting to give you a greater chance?  At its minimum value of -50, you'd only have to reduce the owner's arousal to 50 for guaranteed success.  Honestly, that seems pretty easy.  I tested this just now with guaranteed success conditions and got permission to wear clothes.

 

Edit:  I've you've been spamming requests, you'll get the response "Not now.  Don't pester me."  You have to wait one game hour to ask again or you'll be denied for spamming.

 

Edit 2:  You do have to beg.  Even under success conditions, the owner will initially say no.  If you choose the "Well, okay." response, the owner takes that as your agreement that you don't need to wear clothes.

Edited October 18, 2022 by HexBolt8

[AnnaShapard]

25 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

From the feature description, "Owner's arousal is the base chance that permission will be denied, and if so you'll have to ask again in a game hour and possibly be denied again."

 

When you have sex with your mistress, is that significantly lowering her arousal?  Depending on how you've configured SL Arousal and your sex mods, it might not be decreasing much.  (This mod attempts to lower the owner's arousal a lot after sex, but other mods might interfere with that.)  Have you checked your mistress' arousal?

 

The chance for rejection is owner's arousal + the MCM setting "Bonus rejection chance to wear clothes".  Have you adjusted this setting to give you a greater chance?  At its minimum value of -50, you'd only have to reduce the owner's arousal to 50 for guaranteed success.  Honestly, that seems pretty easy.  I tested this just now with guaranteed success conditions and got permission to wear clothes.

 

Edit:  I've you've been spamming requests, you'll get the response "Not now.  Don't pester me."  You have to wait one game hour to ask again or you'll be denied for spamming.

 

Edit 2:  You do have to beg.  Even under success conditions, the owner will initially say no.  If you choose the "Well, okay." response, the owner takes that as your agreement that you don't need to wear clothes.

well, it worked now, but even with -50 it took me 6 tries, fuckings and 12 hours!:/

"Edit 1 and 2"_*: yep, i know that!:P (all the *zaps* were unmistakable enough!XD)

first needed to find the check arousal button, i didn't know that with "OSL aroused" it is a new one!
but still thanks for the tips, they helped me narrowing it down!:P
 

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, AnnaShapard said:

well, it worked now, but even with -50 it took me 6 tries, fuckings and 12 hours!

I'm glad that you were successful, though it seems that your sex mods and/or their settings were complicating matters for you.

 

This is the "normal" extended eye candy experience, with SL Aroused and default settings:

 

You're told to stay naked.  You must wait 3 minutes before asking to wear clothes.

 

After 3 minutes, you're notified that you may ask.

 

When you ask, the % chance for failure is owner's arousal + 10 (default MCM setting).

 

If you fail, you may ask again in a game hour (asking sooner is punished for spamming).

 

After an hour, have sex with owner at the first opportunity.  Owner arousal should drop to 0 (SLTR tries to help you).

 

After sex, ask to wear clothes.  The chance for failure is 10%:  0 (owner arousal) + 10 (default MCM setting).

 

Sex mods or settings might do weird things with owner arousal and make the process harder, but under baseline conditions a player has a 90% chance of wearing clothes again within 2 game hours or so after the start of extended eye candy, depending on how soon the PC can have sex with the owner.

Edited October 18, 2022 by HexBolt8

[Hex Bolt]

Work on the next new feature looks good so far in testing.  It rhymes with Rave Rats Rears.

[akssi]

On 2022/10/18 at AM6点18分, HexBolt8 said:

没有禁用它的选项。当你的分数超过 50 并且主人告诉你赤身裸体时，它就变成了一个永久的规则，就像戴项圈是一个永久的规则一样。

 

为确保我理解，您的 MCM 所需裸露设置是列表中的最后一项吗（英文中的“仅限玩家主页”）？

 

你试过在其他地方吗？你只说你在外面受到了惩罚。尝试一些内部地点，如旅馆、寺庙或地下洞穴。你真的不应该对规则有任何问题。发生了一些不寻常的事情，但我不明白那可能是什么。

 

编辑：另外，请确保您没有启用仅穿简单衣服的规则。“只穿简单的衣服”规则适用于所有地方：“当要求裸体规则生效时，玩家不得穿着轻或重的防弹衣、附魔的防弹衣或“丰富”的衣服，即使在允许穿衣服的区域也是如此。 "

 

Thanks for your guidance, I'm back to normal now

[blahity]

14 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Work on the next new feature looks good so far in testing.  It rhymes with Rave Rats Rears.

Ahh yes. Cave Cats Tears, of course!

[shiagwen]

Master renting a room does not seem to work with customized prices (sexlab survival) ?

 

Editz : well i saw that the master had paid for the room. the money sound  was not to hear and the innkeeper still offered the room to the pc, if she pays then she get it like master never paid for, the dialogue, " youre joking, you just get one " missing.

Edited October 20, 2022 by shiagwen

[DayTri]

16 hours ago, blahity said:

Ahh yes. Cave Cats Tears, of course!

I honestly don't know what the rhyme is supposed to be lol, Cave Bats Bears?

[CaptainJ03]

17 hours ago, blahity said:

Ahh yes. Cave Cats Tears, of course!

Slave Tats Tears, after you've been whipped, would make sense. Although I doubt I'd see a difference to STA tears.

[Hex Bolt]

7 hours ago, shiagwen said:

i saw that the master had paid for the room. the money sound  was not to hear

The coins were coming from a follower's inventory, not yours.

 

7 hours ago, shiagwen said:

the innkeeper still offered the room to the pc

I'll look at this when I can.  I'm in the middle of a major hardware upgrade right now.

 

7 hours ago, shiagwen said:

Master renting a room does not seem to work with customized prices (sexlab survival) ?

As stated in the update notes, the process should be compatible with mods like Devious Followers or Realistic Room Rental Enhanced which simply change Skyrim's room cost variable.  If SL Survival does it differently, then this feature is not compatible.

[Hex Bolt]

3 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Slave Tats Tears, after you've been whipped, would make sense.

We have a winner!  Tears are also used for punishment spanking and during Trophy Slave event (when you're told to fake some tears).  This feature might step on other mods that use tears (and vice versa), so players will have to decide if they want to use it.

[Anunya]

On 10/10/2022 at 5:02 AM, just_Gina said:

@Hexbolt8:  you can lug around heavy stuff, though you'll have to do it naked.

 

Sort of fits my playthrough to a T.  Using an Orc stronghold mod, which doesn't appear to have the proper keyword attached for player home. Really no problem, for this play-

through as the daily routine while there is pretty strict. Fields before breakfast, eat, clean the hall, work the forge, enchant, and pop out little Orcs for the Chief...

 

Which Orc Stronghold mod are you using, if you don't mind me asking?

Edited October 21, 2022 by Anunya

[just_Gina]

@Anunya

 

Tharash Dol.  Comes with Orcs already living there, and with a few follower mods, can support a fair-sized population of rather large inhabitants to help keep my young and inexperienced dragonborn in her place.

[shiagwen]

It was the sleeping giant were renting room wasnt like normal. Probably Delphine. But in bannered mare it was alright, money sound and master has lost some money. but the dialogue for the player to rent a room was there too.

[Hex Bolt]

47 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

in bannered mare it was alright, money sound and master has lost some money. but the dialogue for the player to rent a room was there too.

Unfortunately, this is normal for Skyrim.  When you rent a room yourself, the devs chose to let your ask to rent it again while it's still yours, in which case you get the "you just rented a room from me" response.  That's normal behavior -- you can ask to rent a room even if you just did that.  I can't hide that topic without modifying vanilla dialog and changing vanilla behavior.  I do hide the option to say that the owner wants to rent a room.  Because this mod adds that line, I get to choose when it's visible.

 

Similarly, the coin sound is played by the vanilla script, so I can't prevent it.  Even though the room is being rented by the owner, the sound will play.

[Anunya]

12 hours ago, just_Gina said:

@Anunya

 

Tharash Dol.  Comes with Orcs already living there, and with a few follower mods, can support a fair-sized population of rather large inhabitants to help keep my young and inexperienced dragonborn in her place.

 

Thank you!

[shiagwen]

One more thing, hex. Much more important. i wonder that noone else brought this up.

you must avoid that the master does any slave action whie the pc is in a sex scene.  That really sucks. especially if the client takes another round, the pc get hurt and loose points.

i am not sure if you avoid master slave action while pc is in combat. usually master is involved in combat too.

 

and about the coin sound : i like that very much. i wondered why there was none at delphine. but the confabulation feature of fucking the innkeeper if no money for the bed does not work at sleeping giant with delphine too.

Edited October 22, 2022 by shiagwen

[Hex Bolt]

8 hours ago, shiagwen said:

you must avoid that the master does any slave action whie the pc is in a sex scene.

The mod already does that.  It checks whether the PC is in SexLabAnimatingFaction.  However, there is a small time period between when a sex scene starts (while the partners are aligning with each other) and when SexLab assigns the PC to SexLabAnimatingFaction, so it's possible for a Lola event to trigger during that brief starting phase.  If that happens, the owner will wait for sex to end IF the sex animation has started (the PC is in SexLabAnimatingFaction) when the owner gets within force greeting range.  If an event triggered during sex startup and the owner was nearby, then there could be a problem.  It's one of the challenges of working with events from other mods that don't immediately indicate when they've started.  Other mods, such as Devious Devices, perform the same check and run the same risk of starting an action while a SexLab scene is initiating but the animation hasn't started yet.