Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[agukiin51]

On 24/7/2022 at 19:32, HexBolt8 said:

Agregaré algo como esto. Ansioso no encaja, pero obediente sí.

 

Esto podría incluso formar la base para más de un evento. Combinándolo con la sugerencia de ChibiUser para una especie de confesión, un nuevo evento podría implicar decirle a una o más personas cuánto deseas un orgasmo pero no puedes tener uno mientras estás constantemente acosado (con el desafío de llegar al NPC mientras estás acosado). Las respuestas pueden variar de disgusto a intrigado a "¡Eso está bueno!" y admiración por el dueño. Si el dueño está complacido, obtienes un permiso especial (encuentra un buen lugar para tener sexo con el dueño). O el dueño podría decidir que todos ustedes están preparados para la prostitución.

 

Un masaje es un buen evento, si las animaciones pueden funcionar. También se podría hacer para el compañero de juegos.

That would be good, in my opinion it would be great to include more events involving the playmate, and especially special events when your submission is level 100, in that slot there is nothing new. Honestly, your work is amazing, I wouldn't know where to start with a mod like this, bravo!

[blahity]

5 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

That's very similar to Radiant Prostitution's Home Delivery job.  I don't think I could improve on that.  I would like to do some sort of "delivery" job, but that would probably be a pony girl job or other non-prostitution event.

I didn't know that, I don't really used any prostitution mods.

 

5 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

How would Lola do that?  Masturbation anytime she feels like it is cheating, and the owner probably would not want Lola having sex with strangers without being ordered to do it (or getting paid for it).  For it to be a contest, Lola must have some ability to influence arousal increase while still doing the various tasks that the owner gives her.

Off the top of my head Praying at a shrine, a "Stay Calm" power active during the event, Doijg some sort of repetitive job like splitting firewood, reading books, or playing hide and seek?

[ChibiUser]

On 7/24/2022 at 5:52 PM, HexBolt8 said:

That should be fixed in the current version, though it won't remove any existing records in the quest log.

 

It really is focused on the sex slave aspect.  There probably is room for some denial (the no-masturbating option accomplishes a little of that), but the difficulty is that blocking sex can interfere with other mods that cause the PC to have sex.  It's also possible that another mod might circumvent a belt by unlocking it whenever the follower wants sex with you, making the owner look indecisive.  It complicates forced prostitution by limiting options.  I made a note to consider a short term event, such as belted with a lot of edging, which might be much less likely to cause problems.

 

Well, we already have getting a drink, food, and cleaning, as well as proving that you're not lost.  I'm open to more variety, but it has to fit the submissive theme.

 

This event is untended to make Lola feel helpless.  It's for the owner's pleasure, not Lola's, so the owner takes Lola beyond the point where it's fun for Lola.  Think of it perhaps as a lesson in existing for the owner's entertainment.  There is room for another variation, though, such as a forced enjoyable orgasm -- in public, so people can see what a slut Lola is.

 

They start with the owner's title.  If you enter a title and make it lower case, then that's your choice, but any sentence that starts with that title will be like that.  If you're using the default title, you might have run afoul of Skyrim's string caching, but I wouldn't think that it would apply for this sort of text substitution.

 

Were you using the current version when you were enslaved?  That should already be fixed.

Thanks for the reply!

I think I am using the latest version, but to be sure I’ll replace it with the current one

If I still encounter the mentioned problems, I’ll be sure to post again!

[monsta88]

18 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Are you wearing anything else in that slot now? 

 

I think it was a Wearable lantern. It goes to slot 55.

[Hex Bolt]

23 minutes ago, monsta88 said:

I think it was a Wearable lantern. It goes to slot 55.

That's the problem.  Devious Devices uses slot 55 for blindfolds.  Usually, this mod does a keyword check to verify compliance for worn items.  Blindfolds are a problem, however, because the unlocked ones that the player can freely unequip have no item-type keywords, so the check is simply against anything worn in slot 55. 

[monsta88]

13 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

That's the problem.  Devious Devices uses slot 55 for blindfolds.  Usually, this mod does a keyword check to verify compliance for worn items.  Blindfolds are a problem, however, because the unlocked ones that the player can freely unequip have no item-type keywords, so the check is simply against anything worn in slot 55.

 

A solution would be to use lockable ones, and the Mistress would open/lock it, but that would go against the submissive nature of the quest. Or, I assume it would be problematic to check the name of the worn item?

 

Maybe you could put a little warning in the Compatibility section on the main page about this (although I'm not sure how many people actually read these things).

 

Some feedback:

I'm using Deviously Enchanted Chects (containers may be trapped and equip DDs). From a trap I got a rubber bodysuit and gloves, I already had ballet boots from somewhere else. I couldn't remove them (I also use Unforgiving Devices, which can be set to make DD removal difficult). Anyway, next time I was leaving Solitude, these got removed automatically, which was a bit funny. It is fine though, the devices could be removed without key anyway, it just takes time (which I used for more serious restraints, hence I wore these ones still) to wear down the restraints.

 

I'm also using the voicepack (actually that's why I decided to try it) and it works very well. I'd add the link to the voice files to the Add-on section, or as Optional requirement.

 

The mod very clearly communicates all the things it requires from the player. For example I didn't know what was I suppose to do with the Sweeping quest, but the journal said everything.

 

Some custom home things: My main home is the Dragonborn gallery.

- it was funny when I was told to sweep it, and it took only 2 minutes to finish. Just in case you don't know the mod, it is a HUGE building, with like 10 separate locations. Then again, I don't know how SL could (or should at all) detect the size of the home and modify the number of sweeping power uses. I think it is fine as it is, sweeping is not a fun activity anyway.

- the whipping quest talks about a box(?) where the whips are stored. I'm not sure if this box actually exist in vanilla homes. It would be nice to have a dedicated weapon rack or plaque for them. I will get a vanilla home eventually and see if there is a container for them.

 

I like how the mod reacts to the worn DDs.

 

I like how the tasks may result in debuffs.

 

One negative thing: I saw in the console that Naked Defeat sent a suspend order to SL. Still, a "Mistress wants sex" event got activated during Naked Defeat's events. Another time Mistress went ahead and did a Collar check at the start of a fight, so I had to quickly click through the thankfully short dialogue. I think the combat started earlier, but I'm not entirely sure.

 

Overall it is a very good mod. Polished, good writing, minimal issues, plays nice with other mods. Great work!

Edited July 27, 2022 by monsta88

[CaptainJ03]

2 hours ago, monsta88 said:

the whipping quest talks about a box(?) where the whips are stored. I'm not sure if this box actually exist in vanilla homes.

that is a virtual chest, accessible only through dialogue with your Mistress, and IIRC only during this miniquest. After you've gotten the cane or crop from the box, you can put it anywhere you like (like a weapon plaque) for the next use, as the Toybox respawns everything that should be in there.

[Antiope_Apollonia]

9 hours ago, monsta88 said:

One negative thing: I saw in the console that Naked Defeat sent a suspend order to SL. Still, a "Mistress wants sex" event got activated during Naked Defeat's events.

There's an MCM setting for Owner can demand sex while events are suspended.

[Hex Bolt]

10 hours ago, monsta88 said:

I'm using Deviously Enchanted Chests

I use it too, though mainly for adding keys to the world.

  

10 hours ago, monsta88 said:

Anyway, next time I was leaving Solitude, these got removed automatically, which was a bit funny.

The Fashion Slave event removes the "outfit", even previously worn items.  You can consider it a reward for putting on a good show.

 

10 hours ago, monsta88 said:

[Dragonborn gallery] it was funny when I was told to sweep it, and it took only 2 minutes to finish.

The owner is mostly concerned about the immediate area, rather than an entire building.

 

10 hours ago, monsta88 said:

the whipping quest talks about a box(?) where the whips are stored.

Already answered above, but there's also an explanation for this on the MCM Help page.

 

10 hours ago, monsta88 said:

It would be nice to have a dedicated weapon rack or plaque for them.

That was the inspiration for this event.  The items in the toybox can all be displayed on weapon plaques or racks (there's a special model for the paddle and cat o' nine, because the standard ones are rotated 90 degrees when mounted).

 

10 hours ago, monsta88 said:

I saw in the console that Naked Defeat sent a suspend order to SL. Still, a "Mistress wants sex" event got activated during Naked Defeat's events. Another time Mistress went ahead and did a Collar check at the start of a fight...

In addition to the response above, it sounds like this mod wasn't suspended at that time.  The collar check is a regular event that should have been suspended.  Suspended status is indicated on the MCM System page.

Edited July 27, 2022 by HexBolt8

[monsta88]

Thanks for the answers.

 

I noticed a small issue, caused by Unforgiving Devices. UD has the function to connect leg restraints and the character can move only slowly. If this happens to Mistress, the whipping events bug out a little. She won't do the hitting anims, she just stands there for the duration. It is fine though, it should be a rare occasion.

 

A more serious concern though: Skyrim has finite quest slots in the Journal. If you reach this number (I think it is 128 regular and 128 repeatable quests), the actual active quests will disappear one by one as you start new quests. They still work, but since you can't select them, you can't see their quest markers, etc.

 

SL fills the journal really fast, so I'm a bit concerned that it will happen and ruin the playthrough.

Edited July 28, 2022 by monsta88

[Seeker999]

1 hour ago, monsta88 said:

A more serious concern though: Skyrim has finite quest slots in the Journal. If you reach this number (I think it is 128 regular and 128 repeatable quests), the actual active quests will disappear one by one as you start new quests. They still work, but since you can't select them, you can't see their quest markers, etc.

There's a mod on nexus called 'Hide Your Quests' which allows you to choose what you want to display. I know it's available for SE because that's what I use, not sure about LE. I like keeping my journal clean.

[Hex Bolt]

4 hours ago, monsta88 said:

SL fills the journal really fast

The last update (52) should have fixed the problem with stuck quest objectives for new quests, though those that were stuck before will remain that way.

 

2 hours ago, Seeker999 said:

There's a mod on nexus called 'Hide Your Quests' which allows you to choose what you want to display. I know it's available for SE because that's what I use, not sure about LE.

It's not available for LE.  For LE, I use Hide Those Futile Quests, though sadly it's been removed from Nexus.  Another option, only for SE players, is Quest Journal Limit Fixer.

[Hex Bolt]

Version 2.0.53

 

This version adds a new page to the MCM.  It is safe to add to an existing game, but it might cause some wonkiness until you open the new page and each page below it and move the mouse over each line to help the MCM sort itself out.

 

New:  A new MCM page, "Poses".
- A new set of poses is available if you install the animations from RohZima's Animated Poser.  That mod does *not* have to be enabled.  You only need its animation files, just like this mod can use the dances from TDF Prostitution without requiring that that mod be enabled.
- "Use RohZima reward whipping poses" adds 3 bending-over poses for reward whippings.  They replace the default anal inspection pose for reward whippings.

New:  MCM setting for submission buffs at high score.  Default is on (existing behavior).  This just lets you turn them off.

 

Changed:  Improved the prostitution event with Radiant Prostitution and "Owner can be your pimp" enabled.
- Soon after you start working as a prostitute (regular work, not special jobs like Home Delivery), the owner will be removed from the innkeeper faction.
- This avoids the side effect of the owner's having other innkeeper topics during the event.
- While you're working, the owner has a new topic, "About the sex work...", which temporarily adds the owner back to the innkeeper faction so you can finish working.
- As before, it's recommended that you finish the Radiant Prostitution work before ending this mod's prostitution event.

 

Changed:  When spending the owner's gold, the owner will only give you the amount over the owner's poverty limit.

 

Changed:  These settings moved from the System page to Poses:
    Fix player angle when kneeling
    Kneel with hands behind the head
    Unequip arrows while kneeling
    Unequip item slots while kneeling

Compatibility:  Provides data to Follower Slavery Mod to let it exclude this mod's Auction Buyer from enslavement.

 

The 3 RohZima reward whipping poses:

Spoiler

 

Installing only animations from a mod:

Spoiler

Open the download file.

Drag the Meshes\Actors file into Data\Meshes.

 

You now have new files in Data\meshes\actors\character\animations and Data\meshes\actors\character\behavior.

 

Run FNIS.

 

Optionally, to reduce the number of new animations, delete the animations (HKX files) that you don't want.  (For the RohZima animations, this mod only uses Fitness 3, 4, and 5.)  You must also edit the FNIS_xxx_List.txt file to remove the lines for the animations that you deleted.  Run FNIS when you're done.

 

[monsta88]

44 minutes ago, Seeker999 said:

There's a mod on nexus called 'Hide Your Quests' which allows you to choose what you want to display. I know it's available for SE because that's what I use, not sure about LE. I like keeping my journal clean.

 I'm quite sure hiding does not equal cleaning them out, but I'll give it a chance, thanks.

[monsta88]

3 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Another option, only for SE players, is Quest Journal Limit Fixer.

Awesome! I think this is what I was looking for for years now.

Edited July 28, 2022 by monsta88

[Moon Puppy]

I am receiving bursts of ingame notifications every few minutes, whether I'm enslaved or not. Reinstalling, cleaning the file, updating the file to the newest version, nothing helped. What can I do?

 

Spoiler

 

[Hex Bolt]

55 minutes ago, Aircraft09 said:

I am receiving bursts of ingame notifications every few minutes, whether I'm enslaved or not.

That's certainly unusual.  Do you possibly have a mod that buffers and replays notifications?  Even enslaved, you couldn't have all those events active at the same time.  Enabling "Suspend all events" will turn off enforcement of any rules, but your game seems to have deeper problems than that.

[Lisette11]

How can I install Rohzima's Animated Poser but not activate it? Doesn't not enabling it in MO2 take away the animations?

Edited July 29, 2022 by Lisette11

[lacie_]

Just wondering, is there a roadmap or anything for this mod? SLtR has probably become my favorite LL mod and I appreciate the frequent updates, but I would love to see some new content in the form of new events. I think it'd be especially great if there were more events that required reaching 100 submission score/entering into a permanent contract, or some form of progression beyond 100 submission score.

[Hex Bolt]

4 hours ago, Lisette11 said:

Doesn't not enabling it in MO2 take away the animations?

I can't answer questions for specific mod managers.  The baseline process is explained in the release notes.  Every mod manager simulates this by creating a virtual Data folder.  Use your mod manager's process for installing loose assets, whether that's dropping them in the data folder, using an override folder, or some other method.

 

4 hours ago, asdj1239 said:

I think it'd be especially great if there were more events that required reaching 100 submission score/entering into a permanent contract, or some form of progression beyond 100 submission score.

I don't envision adding more events that require maximum score.  Staying at max score should be difficult, so having content locked away behind a condition that's difficult to maintain would cause it to not be seen very often, or possibly not at all for some players.  The mod is more about the journey than the destination.  I want to avoid encouraging players to view reaching max score as a goal that they must achieve.

[agukiin51]

5 hours ago, asdj1239 said:

Just wondering, is there a roadmap or anything for this mod? SLtR has probably become my favorite LL mod and I appreciate the frequent updates, but I would love to see some new content in the form of new events. I think it'd be especially great if there were more events that required reaching 100 submission score/entering into a permanent contract, or some form of progression beyond 100 submission score.

The mod already has the permanent contract function, but it is true that at submission level 100 there are not many new events, but of course I don't think it will be easy at all, Greetings!

[CaptainJ03]

7 hours ago, Lisette11 said:

How can I install Rohzima's Animated Poser but not activate it? Doesn't not enabling it in MO2 take away the animations?

No idea how MO2 handles things, but you could just unpack the mod in some safe place, delete the esp (and readme's and Thanksgiving invitations and whatever useless stuff comes with it) repack it and treat this as a new mod, and let MO do the rest.

 

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

Every mod manager simulates this by creating a virtual Data folder.

I like your optimism. AFAIK that's only the case for MO2. Vortex, NMM, and TESMM just dabble around in the real data folder, and if they fuck it up, you're fucked.

[Lisette11]

16 minutes ago, CaptainJ03 said:

you could just unpack the mod in some safe place, delete the esp (and readme's and Thanksgiving invitations and whatever useless stuff comes with it) repack it and treat this as a new mod, and let MO do the rest.

Thanks!

[bnub345]

7 hours ago, Lisette11 said:

How can I install Rohzima's Animated Poser but not activate it? Doesn't not enabling it in MO2 take away the animations?

 

Just install it normally, double click on the mod in the left pane, and delete the esp. 

 

17 minutes ago, CaptainJ03 said:

I like your optimism. AFAIK that's only the case for MO2. Vortex, NMM, and TESMM just dabble around in the real data folder, and if they fuck it up, you're fucked.

 

Vortex also uses a virtual file system, it was made by the same people after all. NMM and TESMM used a VFS but had problems where pieces got left behind in the data folder.

[Lisette11]

3 minutes ago, bnub345 said:

Just install it normally, double click on the mod in the left pane, and delete the esp.

Thank you very much!