Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[agukiin51]

On 13/7/2022 at 11:59, spyke123 said:

Así que me topé con este mod en Nexus llamado "Familiar Faces"... es un mod que te permite almacenar tu personaje e importarlo a tu próximo juego como seguidor.

 

Lo estoy publicando aquí porque pensé que casaba bastante bien con este mod, ya que puedes personalizar bastante a tu seguidor dominante. Incluso puedes elegir el tipo de voz si tienes uno favorito... Con "skyrim unbound" ahora puedo interpretar a un esclavo no dracónido de un personaje dracónido real...

 

  podría ser una publicación sin sentido, pero me gustó tanto que sentí que necesitaba compartir    

I use ``Familiar Faces´´ along with ``Alternate Start´´ if you join both mods in my opinion it is incredible because you skip the intro of the game you appear in the place you like the most and that's it, there is a problem with this, any The outfit you load the character into the mod with will be his default outfit, so he will always wear that. I tried to change the outfit several times, but when you switch instances, it goes back to the initial outfit. other than that, it's amazing. ?

[Liverp]

Hi, I need help: nothing happened when my char doesn't obey the nudity law. I already check the always option in require nudity, my char still wear clothes and nothing happened. No reduce submissive, no zap, no strip, no comment from master.

Edited July 16, 2022 by Liverp

[Hex Bolt]

5 minutes ago, Liverp said:

nothing happened when my char doesn't obey the nudity law and wear collar.

You might be missing some scripts, or scripts might have stopped working if you have a very heavy script load.  Try reinstalling the mod, and then (because any broken script has to be restarted) leaving enslavement and then becoming a slave again.

 

In regard to clothing, the nudity requirement for certain areas, such as only at home.  Check the MCM setting.  You might have been in a place where clothes are allowed.  It's also possible that the clothing you were wearing did not have clothing keywords (some "skimpy" clothing/armor mods might do this), but it's most likely due to something else.

[Liverp]

My bad on the collar, I edit my post but still a little late. When I remove it, the game re-equip it for me after a bit. Which is still weird though, it used to just zap and reduce submissive before. I leave most the setting on default.

 

About the clothes, I already check "always" on the require nudity option. I go to both the wilderness and city, wear the vanilla mage robe just to be sure. The mod doesn't seem to realize it. I have other mods that recognize nudity, such as babo or sexist guard, so I run around a bit and look like no NPC mistake that I'm naked, either.

 

I really hope don't have to reinstall the mod, since I'm having a nice immersion run and don't want to break it. Perhaps worst come to worst, I'd just obey it anyway and call it a day ?

Edited July 16, 2022 by Liverp

[Hex Bolt]

8 minutes ago, Liverp said:

When I remove it, the game re-equip it for me after a bit.

The collar might be in a bugged state, which can happen if another mod unequips it without using the Devious Devices functions.

 

10 minutes ago, Liverp said:

I go to both the wilderness and city, wear the vanilla mage robe just to be sure. The mod doesn't seem to realize it.

If "Suspend all events" on the System page happens to be enabled, the rules won't be enforced.

[Liverp]

9 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

The collar might be in a bugged state, which can happen if another mod unequips it without using the Devious Devices functions.

 

If "Suspend all events" on the System page happens to be enabled, the rules won't be enforced.

I reload much further saves and the collar already at this state. I think I will ignore it and hope nothing bad happened ?

 

Of course I don't suspend the mod. I keep playing and other mod content seem to work just fine. My girl got an ale for her master just now.

[arusnex]

On 7/8/2022 at 1:38 AM, HexBolt8 said:

Keep in mind that I use the original WraithSlayer Radiant Prostitution (I didn't like some of the stuff that Caden did with RP Gigolo, and I've seen no need to examine other versions that are based on Caden's work).  As long as other versions don't fundamentally change the way the mod functions, they will all work with SLTR.  If another version of RP changes in a way that breaks the integration, I'm really not inclined to jump through hoops to support that.

 

You might not want to encourage that author to make changes that will break the integration, though if it's done in a way that's backwards compatible with other mods that rely on RP and still works fine with the innkeeper faction then there's no conflict.  I'm just being candid that I don't want to have to do extra work that's of no value to me because someone made an unnecessary change to another mod's basic structure.  Usually, mod authors don't fundamentally revamp the way a mod works, focusing instead on bug fixes and new features & content, and that's all fine.  There are only a few contact points between SLTR and RP, so one would really have to go out of the way to change RP in a way that breaks the integration.  Switching the faction would do that, and you'd lose the option to use your owner as your pimp and have to just use the innkeeper instead.

 

I would actually argue the opposite, that the innkeeper faction is broadly generic and should work well with both vanilla and mod-added inn content.

 

The faction assignment is only assigned while forced prostitution is active, and it's removed afterwards.  During that time, it only has a minimal, insignificant effect on the owner NPC.

Found the reason why prostitution of SLTR suddenly doesn't work on my new game, which uses Radiant Prostitution-Gigolo SE version 7, thanks for explaination..

[Hex Bolt]

5 hours ago, arusnex said:

Found the reason why prostitution of SLTR suddenly doesn't work on my new game, which uses Radiant Prostitution-Gigolo SE version 7

That's probably not actually the reason.  That version hasn't been updated for a year, and unless it has fundamentally gone out of its way to change the way that it works (rather than adding new features or extending existing ones) there shouldn't be any problem, since this mod only reads data from RP at a few points.

[Delite]

I have the dialogue line disappeared. It was"May I be of service, master?". What should I do to fix it?

[Delite]

Is it possible to bring back piercings if I removed them by myself?

[Hex Bolt]

53 minutes ago, Delite said:

I have the dialogue line disappeared. It was"May I be of service, master?".

It's normally only available about every two game hours, depending on your setting for "Owner boredom delay".  It's also not available when you have another short-term task to do (like bringing an ale) or when you've suspended all events.

 

48 minutes ago, Delite said:

Is it possible to bring back piercings if I removed them by myself?

You can put them back on yourself, or reenable the MCM setting for piercings and wait for the owner to do it.

[Delite]

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

It's normally only available about every two game hours, depending on your setting for "Owner boredom delay".  It's also not available when you have another short-term task to do (like bringing an ale) or when you've suspended all events.

I have five active quests saying "Tell your master that you have finished". I also waited two days in order to see if it will help to regain lost dialogue choices. It didn't help, I just lost my submission points. Maybe I should restart the entire mod? What is the best way to do it?

[Hex Bolt]

24 minutes ago, Delite said:

I have five active quests saying "Tell your master that you have finished".

The problem with repeating completion objectives in the miscellaneous quests log is annoying, but it shouldn't affect your game.  It's been fixed in the current version, but that only prevents more log spam; it doesn't clean out old objectives.

 

29 minutes ago, Delite said:

I also waited two days in order to see if it will help to regain lost dialogue choices.

Check the MCM system page.  Be sure that events have not been suspended.  If "Unblock events" is enabled, that's the problem -- if you're certain that you have no tasks still to finish, use Unblock Events to clear that state.

 

31 minutes ago, Delite said:

Maybe I should restart the entire mod? What is the best way to do it?

Exit enslavement, then enslave yourself again.  The owner wants you to wait 24 hours before you can become a slave again.  You might have to wait that long, or changing cells a few times might confuse the owner's sense of timing.

[Hex Bolt]

On 7/18/2022 at 10:32 AM, HexBolt8 said:

That version hasn't been updated for a year, and unless it has fundamentally gone out of its way to change the way that it works (rather than adding new features or extending existing ones) there shouldn't be any problem, since this mod only reads data from RP at a few points.

I noticed that some players have complained elsewhere that, for them, Radiant Prostitution Gigolo is having trouble triggering sex orgasm events.  SLTR doesn't track orgasm, but it does need for the end-of-sex event to reliably trigger.  If anything in RP is interfering with the sex end event, then that would certainly cause problems for SLTR, or for any mod that needs to be notified when player sex ends.  I'm not saying that is happening, just that if it does, that's a problem.

 

If you're having trouble with RP Gigolo and SLTR, you might try an older pre-SLSO version of Gigolo.  Another option, should you choose, is the original Radiant Prostitution mod (although it says LE, it's not particularly complex and there's nothing in it that prevents it from working on SE or AE).

[petronius]

Wouldn't it be nice if punishment always triggered a ZAP whipping scene instead of a sexlab spanking animation? Some sexlab animations are cool but they lack the synchronized sound effects that ZAP has, the (temporary) lash marks, etc... It feels like "soft punishment" ?

 

Disregard if it has been discussed earlier... I hang out here a lot but this time I didn't take time to search the forum ?

[Hex Bolt]

14 hours ago, petronius said:

It [spanking] feels like "soft punishment"

In one sense, it is softer.  If the owner is really angry, you get a whipping.  Otherwise, it could be either.  However, at times, spanking can be worse because it has a separate debuff,  If you're whipped and later spanked, you'll have both debuffs for a while.

 

Both punishments have their place.  Spanking is intimate, arguably more erotic, and that's an important aspect of the mod.

 

I certainly agree that the handling of sounds for SexLab animations could be better.

[qalavix]

I'm not seeing the dialog "May I be of service Mistress?" at all. 

Game is 1.5.97 SE, SubLola is 2.0.52.

I've tried three new games, and moved SubLola next-to-last-ESP in my load order (Atlas Map Marker is last of the ESPs; though there's hundreds of ESLs), and still all I have is "Mistress?"

On my last start with SubLola - I 'cheated' and started SubLola via the MCM - I got through the first four Dark Brotherhood assassinations and got to 11th level (I don't know how much game time) and still never saw "May I be of service?"

If I offered sex (and it was accepted) my Submission score would increase.

I had (during a Groundhog-Day-esque bad crashy time in Markarth) one "Let's go to the Dibellan Temple", one Fetch-A-Sweetroll (there are no sweetrolls in Markarth at 2am), and two Fetch-An-Ale SubLola quests appear; I succeeded in three of four, and my Submission score increased, but...

What do I try next?

[Antiope_Apollonia]

In the perfect world, someone would build some standalone, paired animation spanking scenes that SLTR—and any other mod—could use instead of calling SexLab for this.  Such an animation could have its own tailor-made sound effects and decals, and it wouldn't have to work with SexLab stage duration settings (which is an issue for the ever-popular Rydin Overlap animation, where the "push Lola's arm away" bit loops awkwardly).  At least in theory, these could either be brand new animations or be built from modifications of existing SexLab spanking animations.

 

But that's a project for someone else to undertake as a resource for mod authors like Hex to use; it'd be asking for a huge lift for Hex to take that on himself.  Until that happens, SexLab spanking scenes with all their imperfections are still the best solution.  

 

On 7/20/2022 at 8:33 AM, petronius said:

Wouldn't it be nice if punishment always triggered a ZAP whipping scene instead of a sexlab spanking animation?

Not even a little bit.  The intimacy of spanking is much more interesting than the severity of whipping.

[agukiin51]

Hi, I wanted to add a pack of new sex animations but I don't know what tags the mod reads, what tags should I put with Sexlab tools so that it detects them? Greetings.

[Hex Bolt]

5 hours ago, qalavix said:

moved SubLola next-to-last-ESP in my load order

This mod doesn't overwrite anything, so if it comes after ZAP and DD, that's sufficient.

 

5 hours ago, qalavix said:

I'm not seeing the dialog "May I be of service Mistress?" at all. 

When you enter "help timescale 3" in the console, what is the value?

When you enter "sqv vkjmq" in the console, what's the value for ::MayAskForService_var?

On the System MCM page, is the mod suspended or events blocked?

Are you using any mod that messes with time, particularly anything that might move you back in time?

Are you keeping the PC in an unusual state, such as always sneaking, mounted, in werewolf form, or in combat?

Do you have "vkj" scripts left over from an older version in the Data folder or a mod manager override folder?

Have you edited the mod or its scripts?  If so, try it with the unedited versions.

[petronius]

20 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

I certainly agree that the handling of sounds for SexLab animations could be better.

 

6 hours ago, Antiope_Apollonia said:

Not even a little bit.  The intimacy of spanking is much more interesting than the severity of whipping.

 

I can understand where you're coming from but sexlab animations just fail to raise any interest in me given that there is no sound feedback from slaps, and most animations (though, admittedly, not all) have movement speed or other issues that make them not very credible. I even use Spank That Ass, that adds slap sounds and screams (though not in sync with the animation) but that mod picks up animations to add its effects to completely at random, as long as they're aggressive. I wonder if there's a way to hook onto Spank that Ass and assure that their sound effects (and their "wear and tear") get used?

[Hex Bolt]

9 minutes ago, agukiin51 said:

I wanted to add a pack of new sex animations but I don't know what tags the mod reads, what tags should I put with Sexlab tools so that it detects them?

The only hard requirements are "Spank" or "Spanking" for spanking animations and "Feeding" if the owner is a vampire who feeds on the PC.  Even then, all animation calls, including for those special cases, will fall back to selecting a generic sex animation if no tag match is found.

 

I don't have a comprehensive list of tags that the mod might look for, but you can improve the selection of the right animation that fits the dialog by adding specific tags, if they're not present.  For example, "Oral" is very general, but "Blowjob" and "Cunnilingus" are more specific.  This mod tries to find the right animations to fit the situation and the actors.

 

Unfortunately, there is no tag standard, so tag use varies between animation packs.  Be sure that any rape animations have the "Rough" and/or "Aggressive" tags.  Most packs do, but a few are inconsistent, and one of them misspells aggressive.  This mod excludes animations with either Rough or Aggressive for normal consensual animations, but it looks for them for consensual rough sex.

 

This mod usually excludes animations tagged with Bound, Binding, or Furniture (though there's an MCM setting and special handling for spanking with furniture, such as a chair).

 

For best coverage, doggy style animations should be tagged with both "Doggystyle" and "Doggy".  Animation packs tend to be inconsistent with those tags.

 

Ideally, lesbian-specific animations should be tagged with both "Lesbian" and "FF".

 

3-way animations designed for specific genders should be appropriately tagged as MMM, MMF, FMM, MFF, FFM, or FFF.  Otherwise, a female actor might be made to take on a male role with a strap-on.  In many cases that plays out okay, but if there's cock sucking then strap-on gal won't be getting much pleasure.  This mod counts the actor genders and looks for a matching tag.

[agukiin51]

47 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Los únicos requisitos estrictos son "Azotar" o "Azotar" para animaciones de azotes y "Alimentar" si el propietario es un vampiro que se alimenta de la PC. Incluso entonces, todas las llamadas de animación, incluso para esos casos especiales, volverán a seleccionar una animación de sexo genérica si no se encuentra una coincidencia de etiqueta.

 

No tengo una lista completa de etiquetas que el mod podría buscar, pero puede mejorar la selección de la animación correcta que se ajuste al cuadro de diálogo agregando etiquetas específicas, si no están presentes. Por ejemplo, "Oral" es muy general, pero "Mamada" y "Cunnilingus" son más específicos. Este mod intenta encontrar las animaciones adecuadas para la situación y los actores.

 

Desafortunadamente, no existe un estándar de etiquetas, por lo que el uso de etiquetas varía entre los paquetes de animación. Asegúrese de que las animaciones de violación tengan las etiquetas "Duro" y/o "Agresivo". La mayoría de los paquetes lo hacen, pero algunos son inconsistentes y uno de ellos escribe mal agresivo. Este mod excluye animaciones con Rudo o Agresivo para animaciones consensuadas normales, pero las busca para sexo rudo consensuado.

 

Este mod generalmente excluye las animaciones etiquetadas con Bound, Binding o Furniture (aunque hay una configuración MCM y un manejo especial para azotar con muebles, como una silla).

 

Para una mejor cobertura, las animaciones de estilo perrito deben etiquetarse con "Doggystyle" y "Doggy". Los paquetes de animación tienden a ser inconsistentes con esas etiquetas.

 

Idealmente, las animaciones específicas de lesbianas deben etiquetarse con "Lesbiana" y "FF".

 

Las animaciones de 3 vías diseñadas para géneros específicos deben etiquetarse adecuadamente como MMM, MMF, FMM, MFF, FFM o FFF. De lo contrario, se podría obligar a una actriz a asumir un papel masculino con un cinturón. En muchos casos, eso funciona bien, pero si hay que chupar la polla, entonces la chica con arnés no obtendrá mucho placer. Este mod cuenta los géneros de los actores y busca una etiqueta coincidente.

Ok I'm going to try it, I'm already a little tired of the same animations over and over again.

[qalavix]

14 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

When you enter "help timescale 3" in the console, what is the value?

When you enter "sqv vkjmq" in the console, what's the value for ::MayAskForService_var?

-- "help timescale 3" gives

TimeScale = 5.00 {I set this myself with "set timescale to 5"}

AR_TimeScale = 0.00 {think this is from AlivePeeing}

 

-- "sqv vkjmq" gives a VAST amount of information;

::MayAskForService_var = False {hmmm!}

 

14 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

On the System MCM page, is the mod suspended or events blocked?

in the MCM, "Unblock Events" is greyed out, and "Suspend All Events" is not checked.

 

14 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Are you using any mod that messes with time, particularly anything that might move you back in time?

Not that I can think of.  I am using Alternate Perspective but I 'got into the real world' before activating SubLola.

 

14 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Are you keeping the PC in an unusual state, such as always sneaking, mounted, in werewolf form, or in combat?

Not always, no. (not mounted, not werewolf; combat and sneaking both happen, but they aren't "always" AFAIK)

 

14 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Do you have "vkj" scripts left over from an older version in the Data folder or a mod manager override folder?

I don't think so... I'll look.  I'm using MO2, so there'd damned well better not be anything in the actual Skyrim\Data folder.

 

There is a \overwrite\SKSE\Plugins\Lola\LolaConfig.json file dated yesterday.  The folder is also dated yesterday.

 

14 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Have you edited the mod or its scripts?

No, honest!

 

I wonder what happens if I try manually setting ::MayAskForService_var to True...

*digs through Intarweb*

 

    setpqv vkjmq MayAskForService_var True

 

okay, I entered this, then IMMEDIATELY conversed with Mistress, and saw the dialog option for about half a second before it disappeared.

{play dramatic_chords.wav}

 

I wasn't having this problem before I loaded up tonight - so is it coincidence or connection? - but I have my collar supposedly equipped (says Inventory) but it's not visible on the PC and I'm getting zapped to shit for not wearing it. *sighs*  "I lost my collar" in SubLola's MCM got me a 2nd, and I had one-or-more equipped and STILL got zapped.  

 

Let's load an earlier save...

 

Okay, collar visible.  I console'd "setpqv etc etc" and it worked.  I got "Maybe" and then a few seconds later, "Tell me what I want to hear".

I still got zapped a little, for not being believeable enough when I said I liked being a slave (Mistress is so mean ?), but it stopped and I still have a collar visible.  Let's go play a while...

 

LATER:

I did some prostitution revenue generation which took longer than 6 minutes, and then checked w/Mistress; again not there.  I re-issued the 'setpqv etc etc' and tried again; it was there this time (Dance for me), I did it, and my Submission went up.  I still have my collar, and my Submission is about 11.  (too bad I'm crashing repeatedly when trying to do something else...)

Edited July 22, 2022 by qalavix

[Hex Bolt]

9 hours ago, qalavix said:

I console'd "setpqv etc etc" and it worked.

It would be surprising if it didn't work.  You're just setting the switch that enables that topic.  Otherwise, the mod does that when enough time passes and your character isn't busy doing something.

 

9 hours ago, qalavix said:

coincidence or connection? - but I have my collar supposedly equipped (says Inventory) but it's not visible on the PC and I'm getting zapped to shit for not wearing it.

Coincidence.  Your collar got bugged.  The DD 5.2 beta has a fix for that.  It occurs when something tries to remove or replace the device without using DD's functions.  SkyUI's "unequip armor" option is a prime offender.

 

9 hours ago, qalavix said:

I did some prostitution revenue generation which took longer than 6 minutes, and then checked w/Mistress; again not there.

Not surprising.  Offering service is available about every 2 game hours.  With time scale at 5, that's 24 real minutes.