Devious Devices LE 5.2

[circuit]

10 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

That happens to me too.  Whenever I remove a chastity bra my boobs go crazy, so I save and quit and restart the game and they are fine.  I'd love to know how to fix HDT from doing that, but at least its work-around-able.

On my end it looks it was just a bad/outdated XML settings file.  I changed over to using these and things seem to be working much better:
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/59416

[Naps-On-Dirt]

1 hour ago, circuit said:

On my end it looks it was just a bad/outdated XML settings file.  I changed over to using these and things seem to be working much better:
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/59416

Huh, thats what I use too.  I wonder if it is being overwritten or something.  

[TheStormwolf]

@Kimy Really appreciate your effort and don't mean to bother you if this was answered already: Is there any way to make the gag sounds/ moans of DD items repeat like the Zaz items? Or is there any hope to get this added?

[Muschi]

Is there a way to make it so SexLab can’t RNG animations that make use of blocked orifices? Or perhaps another mod which implements this functionality? Because as is, it’s not uncommon to see characters givings blowjobs through a ballgag, having anal through a plug, or vaginal through a chastity belt, etc.

[circuit]

59 minutes ago, Muschi said:

Is there a way to make it so SexLab can’t RNG animations that make use of blocked orifices? Or perhaps another mod which implements this functionality? Because as is, it’s not uncommon to see characters givings blowjobs through a ballgag, having anal through a plug, or vaginal through a chastity belt, etc.

I'm pretty sure this should already be happening in theory.

In practice, it happens through blocking sex acts with specific keywords, so if keywords for the animation aren't set up right, they can make it through.  Also, it can get buggy if, say, an animation is listed as Anal and Vaginal, but your devices are only blocking anal, sometimes it can slip through.

[Muschi]

3 hours ago, circuit said:

I'm pretty sure this should already be happening in theory.

In practice, it happens through blocking sex acts with specific keywords, so if keywords for the animation aren't set up right, they can make it through.  Also, it can get buggy if, say, an animation is listed as Anal and Vaginal, but your devices are only blocking anal, sometimes it can slip through.

 

Is it possible that assets from another mod don’t have this restriction? Because I’m using the SexLab Parasites: Kyne’s Blessing mod, and the items from that definitely don’t prevent penetration, even though they’re coded as plugs, gags, etc.

 

I would’ve thought that if an animation was tagged as both anal and vaginal, it would be blacklisted as long as there’s something blocking either the vagina or anus, and not available for RNG as long as one of the two is available.

[circuit]

13 hours ago, Muschi said:

 

Is it possible that assets from another mod don’t have this restriction? Because I’m using the SexLab Parasites: Kyne’s Blessing mod, and the items from that definitely don’t prevent penetration, even though they’re coded as plugs, gags, etc.

 

I would’ve thought that if an animation was tagged as both anal and vaginal, it would be blacklisted as long as there’s something blocking either the vagina or anus, and not available for RNG as long as one of the two is available.

I haven't gone over the code myself so I don't know anything for certain. 
It also gets janky when you have to consider which actor is 'pitching' and which is 'catching', as it were.  If you've got a full belt on, that'd stop you from ~receiving~ anal or vaginal, but it doesn't prevent you from going at someone else with a strapon~

[Muschi]

3 hours ago, circuit said:

I haven't gone over the code myself so I don't know anything for certain. 
It also gets janky when you have to consider which actor is 'pitching' and which is 'catching', as it were.  If you've got a full belt on, that'd stop you from ~receiving~ anal or vaginal, but it doesn't prevent you from going at someone else with a strapon~

 

No, it’s not something like that. It’s clearly a character with blocked orifice being penetrated through said orifice. ?

 

I wish I wasn’t so clueless about modding and stuff lol

[Elswyr]

Hey guys 

 

Can you maybe help figure out this problem why my game keeps crashing ? 

 

Loading a save game & new game. so far it seems DDLE 5.1 and Zaz Animation pack Plus 8 UUNPHDT are in conflict because whenever i disable one or the other the game works fine but as soon as both .esm are active the game keeps crashing.

I have the newest version of FNIS and i have loadgamecrash fix  

 

This is my load order in case anyone is interested :

 

Spoiler

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
actorEvents.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
OSA.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
Heels Sound.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
HentaiPregnancy.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
Blush When Aroused.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
SkyUI.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
RLO - Interiors.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
Eyes of Aber.esp
Brows.esp
Lieyes_v1.0.esp
LoksEyes.esp
HelmetToggle.esp
UIExtensions.esp
AddItemMenu2.esp
XPMSE.esp
FemaleCityGuardsAndSoldiers.esp
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
Seductress Serana.esp
Seductress Elizabeth.esp
Longer Days CoT - 4 Hours - Dawnguard.esp
SlaveTats.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
Tropicalpack.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
RLO - Exteriors.esp
RSChildren.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
HDTTailsEquipable.esp
Killable Children - Quest Important Protected.esp
Killable Children.esp
troublesofheroine.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
BaboInteractiveDia.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
SofiaFollower.esp
TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp
The Manipulator.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
troublesofheroineDB.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp
SexLab Approach.esp
SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
Skat the Rat.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp
CinematicFireFX.esp
Tirk the Horny Riekling.esp
Aibellia.esp
SexLabMatchMaker.esp
SLAL_K4Anims.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
SexLabTools.esp
NotificationLog.esp
SexLab Extra Voices.esp
KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
RSChildren Playable.esp
RSCOarmors.esp
RSCOnaked.esp
RSCOsos.esp
InstantMining.esp
7Base Remodeled Armor - Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
7Base Remodeled Armor - Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
7Base Remodeled Armor - Replacer.esp
heimu0.esp
Biscuits Pack.esp
CharmingHighHeels.esp
Phillip the Horse.esp
TreestumpConversions.esp
YMMP.esp
HDT Piercingsets.esp
SommerRay.esp
AloePoser.esp
VioLens.esp
ExtraPocket.esp
Vivian.esp
NIOVHH.esp
shoespack.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
SeranaStopSandboxing.esp
SLPleasure.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
RewardYourFollowers.esp
Skyrim Ladies - Aela.esp
SexLab_PaySexCrime.esp
SexLab Trainers.esp
Arsenic Pose.esp
WT Tribal Clothe.esp
kuzak-bodyandstockings.esp
BiHai.esp
dc-untamed-000.esp
RLO - Effects.esp
RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
Northgirl.esp
DF_T19.esp
[COCO][GFB]ms_shirt.esp
GPArmorPack3.esp
MiniBikini.esp
Ultimate Lingerie Collection.esp
Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
LevelUp3x.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
YunDao_Hdt_Hair.esp
[COCO]Black_cat.esp
[COCO]FlyinDance.esp
[COCO]Femalebrows.esp
[COCO]Anaconda.esp
[COCO]KASUMI.esp
[COCO]Lady_Samurai.esp
[COCO]NieRAutomata_A2.esp
[COCO]qipao_all.esp
[COCO]sexypunk.esp
[COCO]Vindictus_snake.esp
HDTSextoys.esp
KomAnimObjects.esp
ArbaletBolts.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
iLuvLoading.esp
GRIM ElfMedium.esp
RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
[GIFT]Sexy_sweater_B.esp
[Gift]Leggings.esp
[GIFT]Darkembrace.esp
[Gift]NightSecrets.esp
[GIFT]Calyphlox_B.esp
[GIFT]Thebat_full.esp
[GIFT]Mischievous_devil.esp
[COCO]Student_Uniform_B_FULL.esp
[COCO]Bikini_collection_FULL_B.esp
[COCOLolita_V1_Full_B.esp
[GIFT]Lady_Poison.esp
[COCO]KDA_Kaisa_Full_B.esp
FandomMasks Plus.esp
Aradia Secretary.esp
[COCO]ParagonShinbi.esp
Proper Aiming.esp
Enhanced 3rd Person Camera V1.2.esp
TKDodge.esp
EquipmentStateCopy&Rename.esp
Glowing Eyes.esp
AnubAnimObj.esp
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
[COCO]PinupCheongsam.esp
[COCO]Shadow assassin_B.esp
[COCO]Raikou.esp
[COCO]Succbus_full_B.esp
[COCO]Ahri_uniforms_v2_B.esp
[COCO]Evelynn_Halloween_B.esp
[COCO]Ahri_Halloween_B.esp
[COCO]RONIN_full_B.esp
[COCO] 2B Wedding Outfit.esp
[COCO]Sinoalice Snow.esp
[COCO]Goddess War.esp
[COCO]Asuka_suit_B.esp
BHUNP3BBB.esp
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
RaceMenuMorphsBHUNP.esp
sr_FillHerUp.esp
FNIS.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
 

 

Thanks for any help in advance

[Zaflis]

52 minutes ago, Elswyr said:

... whenever i disable one or the other the game works fine but as soon as both .esm are active the game keeps crashing.

I have the newest version of FNIS and i have loadgamecrash fix 

Copy & paste all log text from FNIS after it generates? (in a spoiler)

As a crash report this is not enough info. You didn't say when it is crashing, where (describe locations and numbers of NPC's potentially near) or how frequently, or does it only crash when you load the game? You didn't say about your SKSE memory configs or if you use ENB or ENBoost. That is a worryingly large amount of mods, i'm not sure if you can get it stable with them. Both DD and ZAP8+ compare to roughly 30 other mods in size. Check your papyrus log, firstly the size of it; larger than 200kB is probably full of errors. Starting a new game can also make a big difference.

Edited October 23, 2021 by Zaflis

[Elswyr]

5 hours ago, Zaflis said:

Copy & paste all log text from FNIS after it generates? (in a spoiler)

As a crash report this is not enough info. You didn't say when it is crashing, where (describe locations and numbers of NPC's potentially near) or how frequently, or does it only crash when you load the game? You didn't say about your SKSE memory configs or if you use ENB or ENBoost. That is a worryingly large amount of mods, i'm not sure if you can get it stable with them. Both DD and ZAP8+ compare to roughly 30 other mods in size. Check your papyrus log, firstly the size of it; larger than 200kB is probably full of errors. Starting a new game can also make a big difference.

Hi

Maybe i didn't make myself clear enough 

The game crashes everytime on loadout not on the mainmenu but when i start a savegame AND when i start a new game.

i have many mods i agree but most of them are just outfits idk if that makes a difference.

i found out the reason it was too many registered animation in fnis thanks !

[marmada]

Just an idea: Would it be possible to limit camera movement if a posture collar is equipped?

[Kimy]

On 10/21/2021 at 5:37 PM, circuit said:

I'm pretty sure this should already be happening in theory.

In practice, it happens through blocking sex acts with specific keywords, so if keywords for the animation aren't set up right, they can make it through.  Also, it can get buggy if, say, an animation is listed as Anal and Vaginal, but your devices are only blocking anal, sometimes it can slip through.

 

That about sums it up. The animation filter is just as accurate as the tags on the animation are. If an oral animation is mislabelled as vaginal, the animation filter will treat it as a vaginal one. As the tags are set by the animation creator, that's not something I have any kind of control over.

[circuit]

Possible error, or just limitation of the engine:  When having "control breast nodes" checked in the MCM, the breast nodes will not be controlled if something is equipped to slot 32 (body slot), even if it is set to not hide the bra.

[Kimy]

 

In case you haven't noticed yet, but beta testing for the new DD version 5.2 has begun. For those of you interested in the beta, you can find it here:

 

 

[bigpineapple]

nice, 5.2 hype

[leakim]

On 6/16/2021 at 9:13 PM, Yuni said:

Question: Is it no longer possible to turn off the animation blocker/filter?
I know that being able to do vaginal or oral animations with a chastity belt, rubber suit, or gag on makes no sense, but I don't care, it's for personal, testing, and weird-mod-setup purposes.
It used to be able to be just an option within Devious Devices that I could simply turn off... but turning off all the check boxes on that page does nothing now, and even using SexLab Tools refuses to allow me to manually set a vaginal animation, defaulting only to lesbian animations, etc.

 

Does anyone know a solution to this? Is it intentional? I liked that feature.

 

I'd also like to simply re-iterate this sentiment. 

 

This feature was incredibly useful since there are many mods that tries to start incompatible sexlab scene after equipping devices.

 

In such a case I'd MUCH rather see the intended sexlab scene rather than whatever-the-hell the result of such a filter operation is. And as suggested by other commenters, the fact that Sexlab Tools cannot even help resolve the situation is simply infuriating.

 

Please consider re-introducing the feature

[Sospice]

Is there an option for turning off the "timer before unlock" on devices (the shield that prevents unlocking)?

I recall that there used to be a slider selection or something similar where you could turn it off by setting it to 0 (although I'm wondering if that used to be in Cursed Loot).

Does that still exist in this mod or others? I'm having trouble where say a chastity belt will get equipped for 26 hours and it creates issues with other mods and quests. 

Edited October 29, 2021 by Sospice

[Midnight_19]

has anyone had this issue before ? and how have they solved it ?

(Oldrim) 

I rebuilt the body's in body slide and ran FNIS.

what else could this be ?

[xyzxyz]

Hi, I have a follower that is stuck in the hobble dress jumping animation although I unlocked it from her long ago. Putting it back on and removing it doesn't help. Neither does the DD mcm terminate/debug function. What can I do?

[Lucioyarity]

On 10/30/2021 at 4:33 AM, Midnight_19 said:

has anyone had this issue before ? and how have they solved it ?

(Oldrim) 

I rebuilt the body's in body slide and ran FNIS.

what else could this be ?

Did you install xp32, and made sure what skeleton you built?

There are two types of skeleton for this mod: Normal and HDT (which causes moves on the female's body, boobs and butt)!

Devious devices requires XP32, when it wasn't installed in my PC this same bug happened to me!!

[Lucioyarity]

1 minute ago, Lucioyarity said:

Did you install xp32, and made sure what skeleton you built?

There are two types of skeleton for this mod: Normal and HDT (which causes moves on the female's body, boobs and butt)!

Devious devices requires XP32, when it wasn't installed in my PC this same bug happened to me!!

ALSO: When you build Bodyslide make sure if your are not using HDT skeleton? MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU TOUCH BUILD MORPHS that hdt options are not chosen

[Zaflis]

On 10/30/2021 at 10:33 AM, Midnight_19 said:

has anyone had this issue before ? and how have they solved it ?

(Oldrim) 

 

Spoiler

 

I rebuilt the body's in body slide and ran FNIS.

what else could this be ?

Strange. Are you wearing any armors or is character naked? My guess is you have custom armor from nexus and some of its parts are using same slot as corset?

 

Edit: @Lucioyarity 

Quote

MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU TOUCH BUILD MORPHS that hdt options are not chosen

Why is that? Building with morphs specifically makes the body and armor suitable for HDT and i've always done that with no issues. If you were to for example build catsuit with "morphs on" and HDT option, you can see breasts behave with physics when jumping and running.

Edited November 4, 2021 by Zaflis

[Lucioyarity]

1 hour ago, Zaflis said:

Edit: @Lucioyarity 

Why is that? Building with morphs specifically makes the body and armor suitable for HDT and i've always done that with no issues. If you were to for example build catsuit with "morphs on" and HDT option, you can see breasts behave with physics when jumping and running.

In my version that doesn't happen!!! That is weird bro.

[Zaflis]

4 hours ago, Lucioyarity said:

In my version that doesn't happen!!! That is weird bro.

For HDT anything you need to install XPMS-E skeleton and HDT-PhysicsExtension (or known as HDT-PE). Then generate your FNIS with it and run Bodyslide with the options as above...

Edited November 5, 2021 by Zaflis