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So after getting everything sorted out with SSE, I've come across an issue I am not able to figure out. I never had this problem before even with my game heavily modded. My FPS continues to bounce around 25 - 30. When vanilla and set to low settings due to the game not recognizing my GPU, it was at 60 fps. When I changed the settings on the game to high or ultra, it would decrease to 30 - 45. Modded is the same thing. I've troubleshoot my Nvidia control panel and can't seem to figure out what else I need to do in order to get it running. Any other advice would be appreciative. Below is my mod list and specs.

 

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
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  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     RSkyrimChildren.esm
  7  7     ApachiiHair.esm
  8  8     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
  9  9     ApachiiHairMales.esm
 10  a     KS Hairdo's.esp
 11  b     Fertility Mode.esm
254 FE   0 Ecotone Dual Sheath.esl
 12  c     3DNPC.esp
 13  d     JerralMountainsCitadel.esm
 14  e     JerallMountainsCitadelPart1.esm
 15  f     JerallMountainsCitadelPart2.esm
 16 10     ImCh.esm
 17 11     Maslea.esm
 18 12     BSAssets.esm
 19 13     BSHeartland.esm
 20 14     Forgotten DungeonsSSE.esm
 21 15     SexLab.esm
 22 16     paradise_halls.esm
 23 17     SexLabAroused.esm
 24 18     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 25 19     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 26 1a     rochester.esm
 27 1b     DreadPrison.esp
 28 1c     arnima.esm
 29 1d     BS_DLC_patch.esp
 30 1e     Campfire.esm
 31 1f     SolsticeCastle.esp
 32 20     Falskaar.esm
 33 21     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 34 22     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 35 23     Gray Fox Cowl.esm
 36 24     Vigilant.esm
 37 25     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 38 26     Coldhaven.esm
 39 27     daymoyl.esm
 40 28     TravellersOfSkyrim.esm
           DynDOLOD.esm
 41 29     FISS.esp
 42 2a     ITortureFramework.esm
 43 2b     SexLab Attraction.esm
 44 2c     SkyUI_SE.esp
 45 2d     SkyHUD.esp
 46 2e     AMatterOfTime.esp
 47 2f     Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp
 48 30     Mortal Enemies.esp
 49 31     Obsidian Weathers.esp
 50 32     SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
 51 33     SOTFull.esp
 52 34     FNIS.esp
 53 35     NightshadeSuit.esp
 54 36     Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
 55 37     NewmillerDarkVampKnight.esp
 56 38     UltimateCombat.esp
 57 39     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 58 3a     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 59 3b     Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
 60 3c     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 61 3d     Immersive Encounters.esp
 62 3e     Cutting Room Floor.esp
 63 3f     Immersive Weapons.esp
 64 40     Smilodon - Combat of Skyrim.esp
 65 41     DSerCombatGameplayOverhaul.esp
 66 42     CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
 67 43     GreatWarSkyrim.esp
 68 44     paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
 69 45     AI Overhaul.esp
 70 46     TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp
 71 47     TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn Addon.esp
 72 48     Skyrim Revamped - Complete Enemy Overhaul.esp
 73 49     Weapons&Armor.esp
           SexMerge.esp
 74 4a     OBIS SE.esp
 75 4b     OBIS Loot SE.esp
 76 4c     DwemerColosseum.esp
 77 4d     LC_BuildYourNobleHouse.esp
 78 4e     SexLab_Solutions.esp
           FollowerMerge.esp
 79 4f     Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
 80 50     OpulentThievesGuild.esp
 81 51     Civil War Overhaul.esp
 82 52     SLAnimLoader.esp
 83 53     SLSO.esp
 84 54     SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
 85 55     SexLabDefeat.esp
 86 56     SexLabDangerousNights2.esp
 87 57     SexLab Approach.esp
254 FE   1 adcSexlife.esp
 88 58     NCK30Obj.esp
 89 59     AnubAnimObj.esp
 90 5a     Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
 91 5b     GrandPaladinSE.esp
254 FE   2 Vigilant Voiced.esp
 92 5c     MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
 93 5d     Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp
           Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 94 5e     Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 95 5f     Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
 96 60     WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp
 97 61     iNeed.esp
 98 62     iNeed - Extended.esp
 99 63     Skyrim Revamped.esp
100 64     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
254 FE   3 3BBB.esp
101 65     WyldMenuPlugFemale.esp
102 66     WyldMenuPlugMale.esp
103 67     CBBE.esp
104 68     Smilodon - Realistic Damage.esp
105 69     Vigor - Combat and Injuries (SE).esp
106 6a     OwnCivilWar.esp
107 6b     Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp
108 6c     EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
109 6d     AZ_KaydenViljaReplacer.esp
           AZ_LynlyStarSungReplacer.esp
110 6e     PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
111 6f     Beards.esp
112 70     VioLens SE.esp
113 71     DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
114 72     AnimatedEatingRedux.esp
115 73     RealNames - SSE Edition.esp
116 74     Emote.esp
117 75     Fertility Mode - RSChildren.esp
118 76     GoToBed.esp
254 FE   4 DAR - IsPC1stPerson.esp
119 77     Nemesis PCEA.esp
120 78     ZIA_Complete Pack.esp
121 79     AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
122 7a     sanguinesDebauchery.esp
123 7b     HiredThugsFix.esp
124 7c     Elemental_Staffs.esp
125 7d     Better Vampire NPCs.esp
126 7e     Dynamic Combat.esp
127 7f     Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp
128 80     TheChoiceIsYours.esp
129 81     Dwarfsphere.esp
130 82     Inigo.esp
254 FE   5 BSHeartland - Unofficial Patch.esp
131 83     Tomebound.esp
132 84     Fulcimentum - More Staves and Wands of Skyrim.esp
133 85     PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp
134 86     Arcanum.esp
135 87     Hunterborn.esp
136 88     Immersive Patrols II.esp
137 89     PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp
138 8a     SexLab_Dialogues.esp
139 8b     SpellResearch.esp
140 8c     NewArmoury.esp
141 8d     Frostfall.esp
142 8e     ScrimshawExpanded.esp
143 8f     SofiaFollower.esp
144 90     Hardrock.esp
145 91     DawnguardArsenal.esp
146 92     DIS_Authentic_Legion.esp
147 93     Bijin AIO.esp
148 94     CUYC_CleanUpYourCorpses.esp
           Bijin Warmaidens.esp
149 95     Phenderix Magic World.esp
150 96     Venice.esp
151 97     SeranaDialogAddon.esp
152 98     HothFollower.esp
153 99     Convenient Horses.esp
154 9a     Darkend.esp
155 9b     notice board.esp
156 9c     Sorceress Supreme.esp
157 9d     SkyrimReputation_SSE.esp
158 9e     ForgottenCity.esp
159 9f     LADX_SSE.esp
160 a0     daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
161 a1     Better Vampire Weapons.esp
162 a2     hubertfollower.esp
163 a3     FollowerCynthia.esp
164 a4     magic of the magna-ge.esp
165 a5     Sneak Tools.esp
166 a6     Lucien.esp
167 a7     The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
168 a8     SkyrimReputation_SSE_Wintersun.esp
169 a9     Bound Armory Extravaganza.esp
170 aa     Resurrect.esp
171 ab     ShadowSpellPackage.esp
172 ac     WardsFunctionalitiesExtended.esp
254 FE   6 BSHeartland - Arnima Patch.esp
173 ad     PAHSlaveCart.esp
174 ae     DreadPrisonPatch.esp
175 af     SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
176 b0     SexLab Romance.esp
254 FE   7 SexLab_RelationshipDialougeSystem.esp
254 FE   8 SofiaFollower-AlternateSpawn.esp
254 FE   9 FSA_FindingSusannaAlive.esp
177 b1     pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp
178 b2     moonpath.esp
179 b3     My Home Is Your Home.esp
           ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
180 b4     BecomeABard.esp
181 b5     Slow and Freeze Time Spells -TwinCrows.esp
182 b6     Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
183 b7     FunctionalBags.esp
254 FE   a 3DNPC0.esp
184 b8     Serana.esp
185 b9     RSChildren.esp
           Bijin Wives.esp
           Bijin NPCs.esp
186 ba     Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
187 bb     KS Dragon Overhaul 2.esp
254 FE   b DDCSE Add-On.esp
188 bc     LazyTools.esp
189 bd     Realistic-Voice.esp
190 be     HearthfireMultiKid.esp
191 bf     HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
192 c0     Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
254 FE   c BS_Campfire.esp
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194 c2     Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
195 c3     Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
196 c4     ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp
197 c5     EasyWheel-AIO.esp
198 c6     JaxonzRenamer.esp
199 c7     RaceMenu.esp
200 c8     XPMSE.esp
201 c9     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
202 ca     UIExtensions.esp
203 cb     RaceMenuHH.esp
204 cc     LustmordVampireArmor.esp
           DCR_KingCrusaderMegaPack_SSE.esp
           SilverDragonArmor.esp
           Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
           NetherMage.esp
           Lingerie Set.esp
           dragonslayerarrows - temper.esp
           Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp
           FireglassArmory.esp
           Knight Sword.esp
           skyforgedWeapons.esp
           HeavyGreatsword.esp
           Infinity Sword.esp
           JZBai_ThrowingWpnsLite.esp
205 cd     LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp
           JZBai_ThrowingWpnsLite_LL.esp
206 ce     AnimatedExpandedWeapons.esp
207 cf     AnimatedHeavyArmoury.esp
208 d0     Ashes.esp
209 d1     Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp
210 d2     paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
211 d3     Ecotone Dual Sheath Patch.esp
           AnimatedEatingReduxTableBenchPatch.esp
           GoToBed-Hunterborn-patch.esp
           Lucien-Moonpath-Patch.esp
           RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
           RDO - USSEP Patch.esp
           Names Patch.esp
           SDA-LustmordPatch.esp
           Elemental_Staffs_Patch_AMoS.esp
212 d4     RSChildren Patch - BS Bruma.esp
           Tomebound - Elemental Staffs Patch.esp
           KS Dragon Overhaul 2 - TC Patch.esp
           Apocalypse and Tomebound Duplicate Spells Patch.esp
           Bruma - iNeed Patch.esp
           Bruma - SkyTEST Patch.esp
           Bruma - Violens Patch.esp
           MoonAndStar_RSC_Patch.esp
           Beyond_Tomebruma-Levellist-Redundancy Removal - Patch.esp
           Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp
           Hunterborn - iNeed Patch.esp
           Hunterborn - Leather Tanning.esp
           Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp
           Immersive Encounters - RS Children Patch.esp
           Fulcimentum - Apocalypse Patch.esp
           Fulcimentum - Arcanum Patch.esp
           GDOGreatWarSkyrimPatch.esp
           My Home Is Your Home dialogue patch.esp
           pahe-tdf-patch.esp
           Pahe_Immersive_Creature Special Edition patch.esp
           Tomebound - Sacrosanct Patch.esp
           Frostfall_Seasonal_Temps_patch.esp
           CWICRFSEPatch.esp
           AnimatedEating_ZiaPatch.esp
213 d5     Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
214 d6     Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
215 d7     Trade & Barter.esp
216 d8     Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp
217 d9     Immersive Jewelry.esp
218 da     Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
219 db     iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp
254 FE   d Hunterborn_CACO-SE_Patch.esp
220 dc     Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
221 dd     PathOfSorcery.esp
           Tomebound - PathOfSorcery Patch.esp
222 de     Better Vampires.esp
223 df     Tomebound - Better Vampires Patch.esp
224 e0     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
225 e1     nwsFollowerFramework.esp
254 FE   e nwsFF_NTMD_Apocalypse.esp
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227 e3     WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp
228 e4     Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
           DynDOLOD.esp
 

Specs:

 

Geforce RTX 2060 6gb

Ryzen 7 2700X

16GB DDR4 RAM

Posted

Hide in " Spoiler " your mod list.
Maybe its driver related ? New driver 457.30 killed a lot of games on RTX cards judging by reddit nvidia thread. Maybe rollback and try to test it ?
Its vanilla game without ENB right ?

Posted
On 11/14/2020 at 6:18 AM, RomeoZero said:

Hide in " Spoiler " your mod list.
Maybe its driver related ? New driver 457.30 killed a lot of games on RTX cards judging by reddit nvidia thread. Maybe rollback and try to test it ?
Its vanilla game without ENB right ?

Sorry. And yes, the test was with everything before it was modded. I didn't know the new update caused such issues... I may do a few rollbacks come to think of it. Not a bad idea.

Posted
On 11/14/2020 at 6:18 AM, RomeoZero said:

Hide in " Spoiler " your mod list.
Maybe its driver related ? New driver 457.30 killed a lot of games on RTX cards judging by reddit nvidia thread. Maybe rollback and try to test it ?
Its vanilla game without ENB right ?

Sadly a no go. Still have an issue with 25 - 30 fps.

Posted
On 11/14/2020 at 7:20 AM, Azurawhisperer said:

due to the game not recognizing my GPU

Did you fix this? if you didn't, it doesn't matter which drivers you have. Because the game isn't using your dedicated GPU at all.

 

For example, if you go to your Device Manager, do you see your GPU listed as enabled in Display Adapters? And do you have other games to compare performance or if other games are detecting your GPU? You didn't answer about using ENB or not, so it could also be that you're using ENB files that are limiting your FPS to 30.

Posted
14 minutes ago, Just Don't said:

Did you fix this? if you didn't, it doesn't matter which drivers you have. Because the game isn't using your dedicated GPU at all.

 

For example, if you go to your Device Manager, do you see your GPU listed as enabled in Display Adapters? And do you have other games to compare performance or if other games are detecting your GPU? You didn't answer about using ENB or not, so it could also be that you're using ENB files that are limiting your FPS to 30.

image.png.833f53231a070bf6efbcc79eec10f0c7.png

 

I figure to provide some evidence to my case. Here's my enb file and a snip shot of my Device Manager. For my other games as an example, Kingdom Come has no issue and that's a GPU powerhouse game. COD has no issue. Halo has no issue. CSGO has no issue. ESO has no issue. Even Fallout 4 and it's still broken, had no issue with FPS. SSE is the only one with this issue. 

 

Not sure if stated before and if not, I'll just make it clear. In my vanilla test run, no mods AND no enb was present. This was a fresh install. When I attempt to launch, it clearly stated that my GPU was not detected. In short, put me at the lowest setting. At that moment, I was at 60 fps. When I adjusted to Ultra, that's when the FPS drop to 25 - 30. Again, no mods and enb. And after I uploaded all my mods, still same result.

 

Not trying to come across a smart one or anything. I feel I wasn't clear in my original post; therefore, rehashing maybe a better picture. Hope this helps.

enblocal.ini

Posted

this makes me curious. I had trouble with skyrim not recognizing my monitor resolution.

turned out it was an issue in the vanilla pref file. makes me think that this could be a similar problem for you get bethini to cleanup and optimize your pref file as well as get it to recognize the gpu maybe

 

 

in skyrimpref.ini look for [Launcher]
sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti" and make sure your vid card is registered in it if not there may be a way to force it in

Posted
38 minutes ago, SimianJyhad said:

this makes me curious. I had trouble with skyrim not recognizing my monitor resolution.

turned out it was an issue in the vanilla pref file. makes me think that this could be a similar problem for you get bethini to cleanup and optimize your pref file as well as get it to recognize the gpu maybe

 

 

in skyrimpref.ini look for [Launcher]
sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti" and make sure your vid card is registered in it if not there may be a way to force it in

Oh trust me it's in there, and beth.ini did not fix the issue either. I should've mention that in my prior comment because I know after multiple researches about this issue that was the number one go to with low fps issues. Even SSE Fixes isn't fixing it.

Posted

Honestly I dont believe its your mods since you have the trouble with a vanilla fresh install at max settings. you said you rolled back your video driver so I strongly doubt its a driver issue (though that is still possible. driver issues can be stubborn bitchs) it is unlikely to be your ENB since you said you get the issue with vanilla no ENB. do you use MO to launch SE? MO has its own copy of skyrim.ini and skyrimpref.ini which do not always match those found in the skyrim folder.

 

Honestly I would completely disable the extra processing by Nvidia control panel/experience , I ran into a problem a while back where it turned out my lag troubles were caused by Nvidia control panel not playing nice with the game all of a sudden.

 

just trying to reduce possibilities

Posted
2 hours ago, Azurawhisperer said:

Did this and problem still persists

This should have write to SkyrimIni file a proper code line for your GPU, in theory.
Googling this issue people tend to get it on Laptops.
 

Posted

Having the same issue on my GTX 1080 - vanilla game bouncing between 35 and 40 FPS during the intro when you get lined up and peeps heads cut off before the dragon attack

 

Tried rolling back drivers to ones from August but no difference

 

image.png.acf929fc252c03f7c157287e24947793.png

 

Bit old now but it was managing to do 60 fps without enb fine a month or two ago

Posted

I'm also interested in this thread. I don't have a "high end rig", but I can play a heavily modded Oldrim at 50-55 fps, and on SE I'm getting 30-35 fps. I originally built my SE mod list starting with the STEP guidelines and then adding SL mods. Disappointed with the performance I've been removing mods and starting new games, but so far I'm still stuck at 30-35 fps.

I have an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M and an Intel i7-6700Q CPU w/32G.

 

My NVIDIA drivers are at the 456.38 version, I have the 457.30 drivers downloaded but haven't installed them yet after I saw the warning about them earlier in this thread.

My skyrimprefs.ini contains this:

 

    sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M"

 

So it should be using the video card correctly.

Posted
2 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

Having the same issue on my GTX 1080 - vanilla game bouncing between 35 and 40 FPS during the intro when you get lined up and peeps heads cut off before the dragon attack

 

Tried rolling back drivers to ones from August but no difference

 

image.png.acf929fc252c03f7c157287e24947793.png

 

Bit old now but it was managing to do 60 fps without enb fine a month or two ago

Exactly my point. Sometime back in August, I was having no performance issues even with my game heavily modded. Vanilla was an automatic breeze without needing to OC. 
 

I am wondering if there’s a bug somewhere. Just has not be identified, and the bug is in the actual game itself vs mods, enb, drivers, etc. kind of like Unofficial Patches. 

Posted

I tried removing almost all of my mods, started a new game, no change in FPS. Removed my ENB and gained about 5 FPS.  Changed skyrimprefs.ini to decrease the resolution from 2560x1440 to 1920x1200 and to run fullscreen, and now I'm at 59-60 fps doing the same tests as I did before.  I'm going to try adding back my mods now, and I think I now have a playable game, but I still wonder why Oldrim runs so much better, even at the higher resolution and with an ENB.

Posted
5 hours ago, PubliusNV said:

I tried removing almost all of my mods, started a new game, no change in FPS. Removed my ENB and gained about 5 FPS.  Changed skyrimprefs.ini to decrease the resolution from 2560x1440 to 1920x1200 and to run fullscreen, and now I'm at 59-60 fps doing the same tests as I did before.  I'm going to try adding back my mods now, and I think I now have a playable game, but I still wonder why Oldrim runs so much better, even at the higher resolution and with an ENB.

See, my Resolution is at 1920 x 1080. Could that be the culprit? Find it hard to believe seeing before then I always played at that resolution.

 

i’m going to check and see when the last time sse itself was updated. If I can’t find a resolution though, hell with sse then. I never had these many problems with oldrim, even at 32bit. Only issues it gave me was that micro stutter cancer, but what sse is doing is ludicrous. My card should be dominating the game. 

Posted

No one seems to mention VRAM sizes of their cards here, while this is a typical issue. If the textures you use don't fit into VRAM, you gonna lose a lot of FPS thanks to PCIx thrashing. All processing takes VRAM - AA, texture filtering, and Ambient Occlusion AKA SSAO which turns on by default in SSE as soon as you set graphics quality to anything above "Low", IIRC. Unless your video card has 8+ GB of RAM, go light on textures in SSE. Disable SSAO in Beth.ini

 

SSE is VRAM hungry. And I've seen texture overhauls that made even my RGX2080Ti 11GB shit bricks. Don't remember the name, I've removed it, but it had a lot of downloads and endorsements, I guess people were looking at pretty pictures and then went on blaming SSE for the performance hits. 4k textures for every damn little detail, seriously. 

 

P.S. By the way, *60 cards aren't exactly "high-end". *70 and *80 are. Those with numbers ending with 60 are mid-range. 40-50 are "entry-level". And those below aren't gaming GPUs at all.

Posted
20 minutes ago, phillout said:

No one seems to mention VRAM sizes of their cards here, while this is a typical issue. If the textures you use don't fit into VRAM, you gonna lose a lot of FPS thanks to PCIx thrashing. All processing takes VRAM - AA, texture filtering, and Ambient Occlusion AKA SSAO which turns on by default in SSE as soon as you set graphics quality to anything above "Low", IIRC. Unless your video card has 8+ GB of RAM, go light on textures in SSE. Disable SSAO in Beth.ini

 

SSE is VRAM hungry. And I've seen texture overhauls that made even my RGX2080Ti 11GB shit bricks. Don't remember the name, I've removed it, but it had a lot of downloads and endorsements, I guess people were looking at pretty pictures and then went on blaming SSE for the performance hits. 4k textures for every damn little detail, seriously. 

 

P.S. By the way, *60 cards aren't exactly "high-end". *70 and *80 are. Those with numbers ending with 60 are mid-range. 40-50 are "entry-level". And those below aren't gaming GPUs at all.

True. My cards VRAM is 6GB. 

 

Here. I'll provide the recommended specs for the game.

 

  • RECOMMENDED:
    • OS: Windows 7/8.1/10 (64-bit Version)
    • Processor: Intel i5-2400/AMD FX-8320
    • Memory: 8 GB RAM
    • Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 780 3GB /AMD R9 290 4GB
    • Storage: 12 GB available space

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