[mod] Carnalitas - Unified Sex Mod Framework for CK3

[NativeEngoyer]

7 hours ago, cumdollie said:

It doesn't. You do not "have sex", to phrase it as it were in the basis of this conversation.

So, I tested it.

Spoiler (it works)

 

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Edited April 10, 2023 by brgont

[cumdollie]

11 hours ago, brgont said:

Spoiler (it works)

It doesn't, and your screenshots show it not working.

Where is the "Has happened: laid with X"? Oh, it doesn't work? That's right, it does not work.

[Guest]

10 hours ago, cumdollie said:

It doesn't, and your screenshots show it not working.

Where is the "Has happened: laid with X"? Oh, it doesn't work? That's right, it does not work.

 

Why are you being so argumentative?

 

There's a function, multiple users have explained that it works, perhaps this issue is with your setup and not the mod?

 

As shown, the interaction is firing and popping up.

 

If you mean that you cannot see the participants and animation for example, that is a function of other mods, not this framework.

[bakon_bitz]

4 hours ago, GallowsUK said:

Why are you being so argumentative?

 

There's a function, multiple users have explained that it works, perhaps this issue is with your setup and not the mod?

 

As shown, the interaction is firing and popping up.

 

If you mean that you cannot see the participants and animation for example, that is a function of other mods, not this framework.

I ran into a similar problem when using the "no cooldown" rule a while back. After diving into the files I believe the mod may be working as intended, but if it is it's not the way most people will reasonably expect it to work, leading to the confusion.

 

To the best of my understanding "cooldown = { months = carn_sex_interaction_cooldown }" in the carn_sex_interaction file determines the cooldown for the interaction. By default, the interaction is only able to be used every 12 months, however with the "no cooldown" rule the interaction is always available:

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carn_sex_interaction_cooldown_base = {
    value = 12
}

carn_sex_interaction_cooldown = {
    value = carn_sex_interaction_cooldown_base
    if = {
        limit = { has_game_rule = carn_sex_interaction_no_cd }
        multiply = 0
    }
}

 

This is fairly straightforward. However, the problem arises when you get to the section of the carn_sex_interaction file that determines the effects of the interaction (I omitted the stress effects as they aren't relevant to this discussion):

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if = {
                limit = {
                    NOT = { has_character_flag = carn_sex_interaction_effect_cd }
                }
                show_as_tooltip = {
                    carn_had_sex_with_effect = {
                        CHARACTER_1 = scope:actor
                        CHARACTER_2 = scope:recipient
                        C1_PREGNANCY_CHANCE = pregnancy_chance
                        C2_PREGNANCY_CHANCE = pregnancy_chance
                        STRESS_EFFECTS = yes
                        DRAMA = yes
                    }
                }

                add_character_flag = {
                    flag = carn_sex_interaction_effect_cd
                    months = carn_sex_interaction_cooldown_base
                }
            }
            else = {
                custom_tooltip = carn_sex_interaction_effect_cd_tt
                add_character_flag = carn_block_next_had_sex_with_effect
            }

 

Even though the interaction is always available when using the "no cooldown" rule, after the player uses the interaction for the first time in a 12 month period they will be given the "carn_sex_interaction_effect_cd" character flag for 12 months regardless of game rules since the duration is defined with "months = carn_sex_interaction_cooldown_base". For every use of the interaction while this character flag is active the player will be given the "carn_block_next_had_sex_with_effect" character flag, negating the effects of the event even though it still fires. You can test this yourself by using the interaction for the first time in a 12 month period on a woman who's already pregnant (so she can't get pregnant again with the initial interaction), then wait until she gives birth and use the interaction as many times as you'd like within a 12 month period. She will never get pregnant, until you wait for the 12 month period to elapse, causing the "carn_sex_interaction_effect_cd" character_flag to expire and allowing the effects to trigger once again. 

 

As it stands now when using the "no cooldown" rule, the interaction itself doesn't have a cooldown but its effects only trigger every 12 months. If you want the effects to trigger every time when using the "no cooldown" rule, while preserving the cooldown when using the other game rules the simplest solution is to replace "months = carn_sex_interaction_cooldown_base" in carn_sex_interaction with "months = carn_sex_interaction_cooldown" like it is higher up in the same file.

[cumdollie]

2 hours ago, bakon_bitz said:

if it is it's not the way most people will reasonably expect it to work

I'd like to clarify that it is not just the way it's intended to 'work', it's deliberately set up this way to not give people who don't want a cooldown what they want. You can see as much in cheri being a smarmy prick in the carnalitas FAQ.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, cumdollie said:

I'd like to clarify that it is not just the way it's intended to 'work', it's deliberately set up this way to not give people who don't want a cooldown what they want. You can see as much in cheri being a smarmy prick in the carnalitas FAQ.

 

If you don't like it, that's your choice, but you flat out denied it existed, then denied it worked.

 

Ultimately neither of these things is true, you just chose to argue rudely with people rather than actually clarifying your point, which is that it works as intended, but you don't like it.

 

Perhaps things would have been easier if you had chosen a better way of communicating this, rather than denial and incorrect statements.

[cumdollie]

48 minutes ago, GallowsUK said:

 

If you don't like it, that's your choice, but you flat out denied it existed, then denied it worked.

No, I very explicitly and specifically said that it does not solve

  

On 3/23/2023 at 11:29 AM, xyzxyz said:

Can I reduce the event cooldown like for the "make love" event somewhere in the settings or game files? Sex once in 5 years is stupid^^

Because  it doesn't cause the character to have sex. Which it doesn't.

Just because YOU decided to deliberately misinterpret my statement has nothing to do with what I said.

 

48 minutes ago, GallowsUK said:

Ultimately neither of these things is true, you just chose to argue rudely with people rather than actually clarifying your point, which is that it works as intended, but you don't like it.

No, you decided to argue about the fact that a solution was offered to someone in the thread because apparently it bothers you that people might be able to have mods work the way they want them to (or intuitively should).

 

48 minutes ago, GallowsUK said:

Ultimately neither of these things is true, you just chose to argue rudely with people rather than actually clarifying your point, which is that it works as intended, but you don't like it.

Nothing I've said has been untrue.

Nothing I've said has been rude, especially compared to your constant abuse.

Nothing I've denied has been true.

I don't know what your problem is but I'll ask you to stop, please.

[NativeEngoyer]

14 hours ago, cumdollie said:

Where is the "Has happened: laid with X"?

Last three screens, d00d.....

[cumdollie]

 

10 minutes ago, brgont said:

Last three screens, d00d.....

Has laid with is literally not there. Are you trying to gaslight me? What's your angle?

THIS is what I'm talking about, which is the actual notification of the characters having sex. Which I can't help but notice you have deliberately not moused over to show is missing.

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Edited April 11, 2023 by cumdollie

[MultisyncJ]

Hey so I've been trying to get Carnalitas working, but always encounter crashing, literally tired just running that mod still crashes, saw GUK_Fix_Carn mentioned a bit, but links seem to be dead, any way I can still get it or someone willing to share?

[cumdollie]

Just now, MultisyncJ said:

Hey so I've been trying to get Carnalitas working, but always encounter crashing, literally tired just running that mod still crashes, saw GUK_Fix_Carn mentioned a bit, but links seem to be dead, any way I can still get it or someone willing to share?

Attached.

Alternatively, grab https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/26617-dcarnalitas/

 

Pre-1.8 Carnalitas crashes because some mod commands were changed in the patch.

GUK_Fix_Carn.zip

[byehi]

just to let everyone know your most likely to find support for the carn mods ( including CBO etc) over on Cheri's discord where the community as a whole has been working together to keep it all working and has the patched versions of mods pinned as well (we've just swapped over the previous pin of GUK's fix as the link does indeed seem to be dead)

[Rhaenuriel]

On 4/19/2022 at 1:15 PM, blitz8529 said:

Anyone have any custom edits for the mod Secrecy Private information that makes it work with Carnalitas they can upload? I like SPI but it doesn't count anything from Carnalitas.

I too would like to know.. Has anyone found a way to make it compatible?

[randy1990]

how do i use GUK_Fix_Carn 

[byehi]

5 minutes ago, randy1990 said:

how do i use GUK_Fix_Carn 

 

You dont need it, if you go onto the Cheri's Discord there is a pre-patched version of Carnalitas that has been pinned that I uploaded

[milfnapper]

1 hour ago, byehi said:

 

You dont need it, if you go onto the Cheri's Discord there is a pre-patched version of Carnalitas that has been pinned that I uploaded

What's the discord name? thanks

[byehi]

1 hour ago, milfnapper said:

What's the discord name? thanks

Its linked in the very first post of this thread

[AlphaReminisce]

Anyone get this mod working with GOT CK3?

 

[Pax_mars]

Is this Mod broken? Rather not waste my time trying to get it to work.

[Flasticia]

Hi, I use the settings in the game rules and tweak it somewhat and it appear that some of the tweaks to the game rules some in the carnalitas make the game crashes for some reason. 

 

I turn on gore, non con, incest, slavery to any gender, slavery without consent, 

 

Here is the list of the mod list.

 

Fullscreen Barbershop
Carnalitas
Submissive Partners
Character Body Overhaul
CBO Animations Pack
Toggle Big Character Portrait Patch for Carnalitas and CBO
Dynamic Affairs
 

 

Is there anyone else that also having problems with the carnalitas mod if they tweak the settings too much ? 

[sagimine1]

4 hours ago, Pax_mars said:

Is this Mod broken? Rather not waste my time trying to get it to work.

You can use the GUK patch to make it or go to the author's discord for the latest patch.

[byehi]

Hi Guys, uploading this here for you all its a pre-patched version of Carnalitas thats previously been approved by Cheri, as could up until some errors today be found on the discord as a pinned message (I shall be re-uploading it to the discord today)

Carn Patched.zip

[lord74123]

On 12/11/2022 at 4:48 PM, GallowsUK said:

 

Look for the GUK_Fix_Carn patch I uploaded for 1.8, it should stop it crashing.

where is the link?

[byehi]

2 hours ago, lord74123 said:

where is the link?

you dont need it any longer, just use the version I posted above your post (its a complete replacer for carnalatis approved by Cheri) 

[kr156]

21 hours ago, byehi said:

Hi Guys, uploading this here for you all its a pre-patched version of Carnalitas thats previously been approved by Cheri, as could up until some errors today be found on the discord as a pinned message (I shall be re-uploading it to the discord today)

Carn Patched.zip 2.03 MB · 69 downloads

This isn't working for me, it's saying installation failed and the descriptor file is invalid.

Edited April 22, 2023 by kr156