[mod] Carnalitas - Unified Sex Mod Framework for CK3

[Gandalf_the_Dirty]

On 3/6/2022 at 7:50 AM, sm201 said:

 

There are cultural traditions that make personality traits more common. I'm think it's the Greeks that have one that makes Just more common.

Huh, yes. Me dumb.

[kr156]

There does seem to be sone good potential in the idea of lewd cultural traditions.

[XZIZ]

On 2/13/2022 at 11:06 AM, HereForRandomHornyMods said:

Don't know if others are having this issue but I don't think the physical traits are showing up portrait wise. I've had people with larger sizes be flat as a board. Anyone know what would be effecting this or if its just because of the new update? I tried with and without mods but it appears to be the same.

I have the same Issue as well, have you fixed it ?

[moxn18]

I installed the file but only got a folder saying carnalitas and carnalitas.mod i am unsure what to do

[Gandalf_the_Dirty]

9 hours ago, moxn18 said:

i am unsure what to do

Try to read? Unlike many other modders, Cheri includes detailed instructions:

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On 9/11/2020 at 4:01 PM, Cheri Song said:

Installation Instructions

• Download the archive and extract it somewhere. You should see a folder named Carnalitas and a file named Carnalitas.mod.
• Go to your mod folder. On Windows this is in C:\Users\\[your username]\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Crusader Kings III\mod\
• Copy Carnalitas and Carnalitas.mod into your mod folder.
  • If you are updating the mod, delete the old version of the mod before copying.
• In your CK3 launcher go to the Playsets tab. The game should detect a new mod.
  • If it doesn't, check that the mod is in the right folder and restart your launcher.
• Click the green notification to add Carnalitas to your current playset.

On this page you can also download my submod, Carnalitas - Historical Slavery Doctrines, which adds religious doctrines for slavery that are accurate to every faith in vanilla CK3 based on historical research. The submod is separate from the main mod for improved compatibility with total conversion mods.

 

Load Order

• total conversion mods
• all mods not related to Carnalitas
• Carnalitas
• Carnalitas - Historical Slavery Doctrines (if using it)
• mods that list Carnalitas as a prerequisite

 

Or try to explain your problem better, if you have troubles with one of the steps.

[Gandalf_the_Dirty]

I had a bug report about Birth Control, but after I updated the mod (and sub-mods) to the latest version it seems to work fine.

 

Outdated bug report for the history:
 

Spoiler

Birth Control decision acts weird. First, it does nothing for my male ruler. At least there's no changes I can see or notice. No modifier, no gold income malus, etc.

Also, it only appeared after I installed Divine Prostitution, I haven't seen it before.

 

Edited March 10, 2022 by Gandalf_the_Dirty

[Untolddead]

On 2/19/2022 at 9:59 PM, Cheri Song said:

 

I have tried this but it only works with console commands, and even then it is still buggy. It doesn't work in mod scripts for now.

I did have it working in a mod in base game. But as you said it was buggy and the DNA is messed up so it's not recommended.

[gosepox497]

can futa trait characters impregnate female characters?  

[bunt776]

6 minutes ago, gosepox497 said:

can futa trait characters impregnate female characters?  

Nope, only males. Still no breakthrough to get same sex parents working mechanically.

[Hebiryuu]

im still getting the physical traits, even though ive disabled them via game rules. also, i tried playing as the french karling dude in 869? and he got traits like "curvy", "well endowed" and female traits in general. ive just updated the mod by deleting the old mod folder and .mod file.

Edit: Nvm, it was @Mange2020s Physical attributes which was the problem

Edited March 11, 2022 by Hebiryuu

[alknvnn]

How can I sex with vassal and courtier so on?

 

I used this code with 1.5.0.2 ck3(Carnalitas 1.6.1) until 1.5.1 patch (Carnalitas 1.6.3) 

 

carn_sex_interaction.txt

 

           # request the sex scene
            hidden_effect = {

                # lovers and soulmates always consensual
                if = {
                    limit = {
                        scope:actor = {
                            OR = {
                                has_relation_lover = scope:recipient
                                has_relation_soulmate = scope:recipient
                                is_courtier_of = scope:recipient
                                is_concubine_of = scope:recipient
                                is_imprisoned_by = scope:recipient
                                is_vassal_of = scope:recipient
                            }
                        }
                    }
                    carn_sex_scene_request_consensual = yes
                }
                # for slaves and concubines, get scenes ranging from consensual to noncon

 

 

It works pretty good. but its not working now.

 

Any Idea for fix?

[Sooner860]

On 3/8/2022 at 8:16 AM, IDAZIZ said:

I have the same Issue as well, have you fixed it ?

I've made a few changes to the files to improve the breast system by using ranges instead of add solid numbers when modifying the dna and it seems to be working fine for me with the new update. Additionally, with the CBO i've edited the breast gene and created a new curve (age_preset_tops) so they grow according to age separate of the rest of the body. I included the files if you want to try them out. I'm pretty new to modding so there may be issues.

carn_dt_events.txt carn_dt_effects.txt carn_dt_values.txt 00_carn_tits.txt breast gene.txt

[PlayingOneHanded]

What happened to Carnalitas Dominatio? Was it merged with the Main mod or was it abandoned?

[Ginzeen5]

Is hook for sex,  too hard to implement? Or sex for release from prison?

[Siudhne]

20 hours ago, PlayingOneHanded said:

What happened to Carnalitas Dominatio? Was it merged with the Main mod or was it abandoned?

It was never affiliated with Carnalitas. The mod author of Carnalitas Domination seems to have abandoned it. IRRC, Cheri is currently considering adding the slave seeding from it - or similar to it - to Carnalitas.

[PlayingOneHanded]

How exactly are the body part traits distributed? Is it purely random or are they applied based on a characters genes e.g. if a female charakter has big breast genes they will get a big breasts trait?

[Uumbrella13]

Hello, question about deviant traits, there are only fetishes or there are also related stories? Thank you.

[APassingMoron]

Okay, so, for some bizzare fuckin' reason everytime my character marries they get the incest and sodomy secrets?

 

I did some quick tests and checking around, and it isn't just my character - this happens when the ai gets married too. Removing Carnalitas fixes the problem, so I know it has something to do with this mod... but beyond that I am 117% clueless.

 

As funny as it is being able to blackmail legitimately anyone for incest - I'd really like a fix for this, if anyone has a solution.

[APassingMoron]

On 3/15/2022 at 10:35 PM, APassingMoron said:

Okay, so, for some bizzare fuckin' reason everytime my character marries they get the incest and sodomy secrets?

 

I did some quick tests and checking around, and it isn't just my character - this happens when the ai gets married too. Removing Carnalitas fixes the problem, so I know it has something to do with this mod... but beyond that I am 117% clueless.

 

As funny as it is being able to blackmail legitimately anyone for incest - I'd really like a fix for this, if anyone has a solution.

 

Did some more testing, and I can now say with a strong degree of confidence that it is an incompatibility between Secrecy Private Information and Carnalitas. If I remove either of the two mods, the problem stops.

[blitz8529]

On 3/18/2022 at 5:36 AM, APassingMoron said:

 

Did some more testing, and I can now say with a strong degree of confidence that it is an incompatibility between Secrecy Private Information and Carnalitas. If I remove either of the two mods, the problem stops.

I noticed the same issue. I really like the idea of that mod but It did not work out how I wanted it to. I'm not a modder but I don't think that mod recognizes carnalitas. I haven't noticed any of the carnalitas events or submod events updating the privacy information. You have to seduce to get an update, use cheat to make them lover or marry them. My slaves remain virgins no matter how many times I make love to them, even banging them out during sex slave training until I seduce, marry, cheat to make instant lover or some random npc bangs them. I really wish I knew how to change it it. Someone might be able to make a sub mod. I never tried putting it before carnalitas Im going to try that now. It won't fix the incest and sodomy issues but I have to see if it fixs the information issues I'm having because I would like to see it updated. 

 

He has this listed at the bottom of his mod info, as far as I know this could be useless info to Cheri: 

- overridden scripts:
./common/scripted_effects/00_romance_effects.txt
└had_sex_with_effect
└had_sex_with_unknown_effect

 

Edited March 24, 2022 by blitz8529

[Gandalf_the_Dirty]

I found the outdated mod that supposedly managed same-sex pregnancy somehow, at least to some extent. From what I gathered from the comments - the system is far from perfect. But it worked, and that's more than we currently have.

I don't know how they did it, and can't even test it since I doubt the mod will work with 1.5.1 version.

But maybe people who actually know modding can look into the code for ideas.

 

P.S. I asked the creator, but I don't sure when he'll answer.

[darker246]

Hi, i have a suggestion, and if it isn't supposed to work like that, then a question how to fix it. Every ingame year you gain 15 stress and when you have more than one lover, then 30, but "make love" only removes 8 or 16 if you are Rakish and 11 or 22 if you have more than one lover, which is not the "balance" that was threatened if that setting wasn't checked in the game rules, since that leftover stress piles up on top of all other in game events, so can i get an answer as to why it works that way? Thanks in advance.

[Yeoman1919]

On 3/18/2022 at 2:36 AM, APassingMoron said:

 

Did some more testing, and I can now say with a strong degree of confidence that it is an incompatibility between Secrecy Private Information and Carnalitas. If I remove either of the two mods, the problem stops.

Yes there is an incompatibility with Secrecy Private Information and Carnalitas, HOWEVER there remains the romance/incest bug that is strictly a Carnalitas issue. I keep checking this thread to see if anyone else has an issue with this. It completely breaks any culture with Chanson de Geste or Chivalry making the game unplayable. Curious if anyone has found a solution

[xyzxyz]

I loaded Carnalitas on an already existing saves. So far everything works fine, all mods depending on C have no problems. But I noticed that the slavery and prostitution system are missing. Can I add them on an already existing save?

Edited March 29, 2022 by xyzxyz

[Untolddead]

On 3/24/2022 at 6:21 PM, Gandalf_the_Dirty said:

I found the outdated mod that supposedly managed same-sex pregnancy somehow, at least to some extent. From what I gathered from the comments - the system is far from perfect. But it worked, and that's more than we currently have.

I don't know how they did it, and can't even test it since I doubt the mod will work with 1.5.1 version.

But maybe people who actually know modding can look into the code for ideas.

 

P.S. I asked the creator, but I don't sure when he'll answer.

Hello it's me! I did already talk about it when the expansion came out here. But long story short the way I did it was patched out the same time the gay mod capability was removed. Even if it wasn't I'd already abandoned it as it was super jank. Anyways the problem isn't creating a kid. It's the fact that the game doesn't allow you to put two of the same sex as the parents. I'm surprised they didn't change this when introducing gay marriage.

Which means that inheritance and events that involve parents will be fucked up. The way I did it originally left the character with only one parent which of course messes up a lot of things. But you can easily make a character pregnant by using a hidden surrogate. However the problem remains that you can't change the parent's father to a woman or mother to a man. Which will mean messed up dialogue broken events etc.

I spent hundreds of hours (mind you I'm not the most intelligent modder.) Trying to get even a work around to work to no avail. You can create a sudo mother/father by using a connected trait. However that would involve rewriting everything that connected to those family positions. Even then you aren't able to mod the family trees or at least I wasn't able to. So from the game perspective they are unrelated. Also it seems that all traits like that get removed for efficiency reason at death so any events dealing with parent's death wouldn't work. Nor would you be able to continue to interact with extend family.

I think the only way right now is to find a way to change the actual code. There are some modders on the ck3 forums who are working on doing what I suggested. But even still it's not perfect.

So over all it's still untenable. And if Cheri and the other modders can't fix it I definitely can't. Sorry.

Edited April 2, 2022 by Untolddead