SexAddicts

[WaxenFigure]

so is it fixed? are the npc women using stra-ons on the char now?

In the new version I am working on, yes. Is it released yet, no.

[AwfulArchdemon]

 

SexLab and all it's mods are totally compatible with SA. SL is a framework different from SexIS (the framework SA uses), so there will be no incompatibilities. I use tons of SL mods (Lovers Comfort included I love LC) with SA.

 

ps. I suggest bumping your version up to 1.5. Works fine.

Hi AwfulA. and thanks for the input.

I have no experience with SL and have not been able to get an answer on this, perhaps you can explain briefly.

If I want to use say LC in the SL framework, where do the sex animations come from? Because SL states that they do not come with it, and LC does not speak of position animations in its description, so do I need another install to get those and if so which one?

 

Ad briefly, version 1.5 of what did you mean?

Thanks for any feedback and your patience with my ignorance. 

 

Crap! I screwed up. I always seem to say this wrong. I meant SL 1.15, not 1.5. And as Waxen said, just install SL and LC will work. Does it really say anims don't come from SL? Because they do. I've never tried to switch positions, but since positioning keys work for it, I have to assume everything else works too, like changing positions (anims).

 

If you use the newest LC, then you'll need the newest SL, and 'Arouse'. The newest SL will require you to use the newest FNIS. These are all reasons I didn't upgrade to the newest LC.

[peruviandrawfag]

I'm really enjoying the mod. I only had a problem when I was raped and my follower killed the rapist and instead of freeing me it freezed me

Besides that everything has worked as intended. My follower is a dick though, I usually left her rape as much as she wants but when I'm busy raping she comes and kills my victim. After it happened a couple times, I ditched her. I'm better on my own anyway.

[Dlaxa]

 

 

I had no intention of updating it further but I made some changes to fix the strapon issue, support SOS, fix the stalker that can issue from when random rape is turned off. I will see about getting that packaged as an update after it's all tested.

 

It also has additional animations and includes the additional voices.

 

No date yet but shouldn't be more than a week or two at most.

Hi Waxen, I look forward to the updated version and I don't want to be a nag BUT is it possible to have the alternating speed during sex fixed so it happens whether initiated by rape or dialogue? That would be really a great fix for the final release; if not possible can you explain why?

Thanks

 

Not sure I understand what you mean by "alternating speed"?

 

Thanks WaxenFigure for the replies to my questions in both posts; what I mean by alternating speed is this:

When my female char. gets raped say in "doggy style" the movement speed of the bodies is quite rapid, and then slows down before the climax. There is also a re positioning of the legs from the standard narrow to wide spread and back during the act.

I am pretty sure this worked also this way when my male char. raped someone by casting the spell during combat.

Now if either male or female engages in sex activated by dialogue "want to hook up with me?" all sex animations run at the same slow speed of motion and there is no variation in the stance during the act.

That is what I am talking about and i hope it makes more sense now; is this supposed to be like this, and if so is there a way to have that variety in speed and stance during sex in the verbally activated non aggressive sex act? 

I use your mod with my male char. mostly for "regular" sexual encounters RP, so having the realism of variation in sex act speed and all the rest would be a fantastic addition for your final version.

[Dlaxa]

 

 

SexLab and all it's mods are totally compatible with SA. SL is a framework different from SexIS (the framework SA uses), so there will be no incompatibilities. I use tons of SL mods (Lovers Comfort included I love LC) with SA.

 

ps. I suggest bumping your version up to 1.5. Works fine.

Hi AwfulA. and thanks for the input.

I have no experience with SL and have not been able to get an answer on this, perhaps you can explain briefly.

If I want to use say LC in the SL framework, where do the sex animations come from? Because SL states that they do not come with it, and LC does not speak of position animations in its description, so do I need another install to get those and if so which one?

 

Ad briefly, version 1.5 of what did you mean?

Thanks for any feedback and your patience with my ignorance. 

 

Crap! I screwed up. I always seem to say this wrong. I meant SL 1.15, not 1.5. And as Waxen said, just install SL and LC will work. Does it really say anims don't come from SL? Because they do. I've never tried to switch positions, but since positioning keys work for it, I have to assume everything else works too, like changing positions (anims).

 

If you use the newest LC, then you'll need the newest SL, and 'Arouse'. The newest SL will require you to use the newest FNIS. These are all reasons I didn't upgrade to the newest LC.

 

Hey no worries, and thanks for clarifying. Without going to the actual page and searching for it, no I can't be sure that it states that there are no animations, but it does not mention them either as I recall. I think SL explains right in the beginning that by itself it does nothing and that it is just a framework for other mods to use. One can read that many different ways and since I did not see any mention of "ships with animations" I was not sure if that meant each mod using the SL framework need to bring their own and so on. Not really knowing how this stuff works makes it hard sometimes to understand unless it is spelled out, so thank you and Waxen for explaining it to me and have a better idea what they (SL) were talking about.

I will try the set up you suggested sometime in the near future, for now I am quite content with SA by itself; with more positions to come in the next update I will be very happy indeed

[WaxenFigure]

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Thanks WaxenFigure for the replies to my questions in both posts; what I mean by alternating speed is this:

When my female char. gets raped say in "doggy style" the movement speed of the bodies is quite rapid, and then slows down before the climax. There is also a re positioning of the legs from the standard narrow to wide spread and back during the act.

I am pretty sure this worked also this way when my male char. raped someone by casting the spell during combat.

Now if either male or female engages in sex activated by dialogue "want to hook up with me?" all sex animations run at the same slow speed of motion and there is no variation in the stance during the act.

That is what I am talking about and i hope it makes more sense now; is this supposed to be like this, and if so is there a way to have that variety in speed and stance during sex in the verbally activated non aggressive sex act? 

I use your mod with my male char. mostly for "regular" sexual encounters RP, so having the realism of variation in sex act speed and all the rest would be a fantastic addition for your final version.

The variation in speed and position is supposed to be happening in every sex act regardless of how it was started (the code that plays the sex act for rape is also used for the conversation sex).

 

I haven't tried the "Want To Hook Up With Me" bit for a while though so I'll check it out and see if it manages to screw up somehow.

[AwfulArchdemon]

I haven't tried the "Want To Hook Up With Me" bit for a while though so I'll check it out and see if it manages to screw up somehow.

 

          

Nope. It works fine. Trust me.

[WaxenFigure]

 

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Thanks WaxenFigure for the replies to my questions in both posts; what I mean by alternating speed is this:

When my female char. gets raped say in "doggy style" the movement speed of the bodies is quite rapid, and then slows down before the climax. There is also a re positioning of the legs from the standard narrow to wide spread and back during the act.

I am pretty sure this worked also this way when my male char. raped someone by casting the spell during combat.

Now if either male or female engages in sex activated by dialogue "want to hook up with me?" all sex animations run at the same slow speed of motion and there is no variation in the stance during the act.

That is what I am talking about and i hope it makes more sense now; is this supposed to be like this, and if so is there a way to have that variety in speed and stance during sex in the verbally activated non aggressive sex act? 

I use your mod with my male char. mostly for "regular" sexual encounters RP, so having the realism of variation in sex act speed and all the rest would be a fantastic addition for your final version.

The variation in speed and position is supposed to be happening in every sex act regardless of how it was started (the code that plays the sex act for rape is also used for the conversation sex).

 

I haven't tried the "Want To Hook Up With Me" bit for a while though so I'll check it out and see if it manages to screw up somehow.

 

Tried it and I think I know what you are talking about. Consensual sex involving the DB requires you to manually advance through the stages of the act by pressing the "H" key. Those different "stages" are when the different speeds and position adjustments occur. If the DB is being raped or when NPCs are getting it on the stages of sex are advanced automatically.

 

One item on my list of things to do is add an option to automatically advance sex scenes involving the DB.

[AwfulArchdemon]

Just please keep it optional. I like the extra time to make adjustments. I can adjust with the left hand, and fap with right. I can get the position right, and the anims that follow are usually lined up pretty well afterwards.

[Dlaxa]

 

 

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Thanks WaxenFigure for the replies to my questions in both posts; what I mean by alternating speed is this:

When my female char. gets raped say in "doggy style" the movement speed of the bodies is quite rapid, and then slows down before the climax. There is also a re positioning of the legs from the standard narrow to wide spread and back during the act.

I am pretty sure this worked also this way when my male char. raped someone by casting the spell during combat.

Now if either male or female engages in sex activated by dialogue "want to hook up with me?" all sex animations run at the same slow speed of motion and there is no variation in the stance during the act.

That is what I am talking about and i hope it makes more sense now; is this supposed to be like this, and if so is there a way to have that variety in speed and stance during sex in the verbally activated non aggressive sex act? 

I use your mod with my male char. mostly for "regular" sexual encounters RP, so having the realism of variation in sex act speed and all the rest would be a fantastic addition for your final version.

The variation in speed and position is supposed to be happening in every sex act regardless of how it was started (the code that plays the sex act for rape is also used for the conversation sex).

 

I haven't tried the "Want To Hook Up With Me" bit for a while though so I'll check it out and see if it manages to screw up somehow.

 

Tried it and I think I know what you are talking about. Consensual sex involving the DB requires you to manually advance through the stages of the act by pressing the "H" key. Those different "stages" are when the different speeds and position adjustments occur. If the DB is being raped or when NPCs are getting it on the stages of sex are advanced automatically.

 

One item on my list of things to do is add an option to automatically advance sex scenes involving the DB.

 

Thanks allot Waxenfigure for looking into this; I had an "Ah that is what H is for" moment, duh:)

I guess I did not understand in the explanation what "advancing through stages meant", but should have figured it out. Anyway thanks again for helping out and my input on the update would be that a toggle option would be preferable than a pure automatic setting for the DB.

I really hope that you can pull off an MCM menu for configuration!

 

One other item that you have discussed awhile back and I was wondering about is if you are still thinking about changing the "undress" sequence when rape is imminent?  I know you had some elaborate plans and I don't blame you ditching those, but how difficult would it be to have the rape victim assume a crouched position (like followers do when their health gets low) and at that point the clothes come off? That would look much more in line with what is happening than standing stiff for a few seconds before the action begins. Especially considering if the engagement point is at 30% health the pc or npc should be cowering on the floor. What do you think?

Cheers

[Dlaxa]

 

 

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Thanks WaxenFigure for the replies to my questions in both posts; what I mean by alternating speed is this:

When my female char. gets raped say in "doggy style" the movement speed of the bodies is quite rapid, and then slows down before the climax. There is also a re positioning of the legs from the standard narrow to wide spread and back during the act.

I am pretty sure this worked also this way when my male char. raped someone by casting the spell during combat.

Now if either male or female engages in sex activated by dialogue "want to hook up with me?" all sex animations run at the same slow speed of motion and there is no variation in the stance during the act.

That is what I am talking about and i hope it makes more sense now; is this supposed to be like this, and if so is there a way to have that variety in speed and stance during sex in the verbally activated non aggressive sex act? 

I use your mod with my male char. mostly for "regular" sexual encounters RP, so having the realism of variation in sex act speed and all the rest would be a fantastic addition for your final version.

The variation in speed and position is supposed to be happening in every sex act regardless of how it was started (the code that plays the sex act for rape is also used for the conversation sex).

 

I haven't tried the "Want To Hook Up With Me" bit for a while though so I'll check it out and see if it manages to screw up somehow.

 

Tried it and I think I know what you are talking about. Consensual sex involving the DB requires you to manually advance through the stages of the act by pressing the "H" key. Those different "stages" are when the different speeds and position adjustments occur. If the DB is being raped or when NPCs are getting it on the stages of sex are advanced automatically.

 

One item on my list of things to do is add an option to automatically advance sex scenes involving the DB.

 

Hey, tried it and it works as you described; feel like a dope not to realize that sooner, to think all those women I left unsatisfied, I have allot of making up to do Knowing now how this works made my esteem for your mod rise even higher, it really is a great piece of work as a standalone and after discovering the additional stages for all the positions I don't even think I need to re-install AP. Your animations are way nicer and I get almost everything out of your mod that I desire for RP.  Thanks

[WaxenFigure]

 

 

 

 

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Thanks WaxenFigure for the replies to my questions in both posts; what I mean by alternating speed is this:

When my female char. gets raped say in "doggy style" the movement speed of the bodies is quite rapid, and then slows down before the climax. There is also a re positioning of the legs from the standard narrow to wide spread and back during the act.

I am pretty sure this worked also this way when my male char. raped someone by casting the spell during combat.

Now if either male or female engages in sex activated by dialogue "want to hook up with me?" all sex animations run at the same slow speed of motion and there is no variation in the stance during the act.

That is what I am talking about and i hope it makes more sense now; is this supposed to be like this, and if so is there a way to have that variety in speed and stance during sex in the verbally activated non aggressive sex act? 

I use your mod with my male char. mostly for "regular" sexual encounters RP, so having the realism of variation in sex act speed and all the rest would be a fantastic addition for your final version.

The variation in speed and position is supposed to be happening in every sex act regardless of how it was started (the code that plays the sex act for rape is also used for the conversation sex).

 

I haven't tried the "Want To Hook Up With Me" bit for a while though so I'll check it out and see if it manages to screw up somehow.

 

Tried it and I think I know what you are talking about. Consensual sex involving the DB requires you to manually advance through the stages of the act by pressing the "H" key. Those different "stages" are when the different speeds and position adjustments occur. If the DB is being raped or when NPCs are getting it on the stages of sex are advanced automatically.

 

One item on my list of things to do is add an option to automatically advance sex scenes involving the DB.

 

 

Hey, tried it and it works as you described; feel like a dope not to realize that sooner, to think all those women I left unsatisfied, I have allot of making up to do Knowing now how this works made my esteem for your mod rise even higher, it really is a great piece of work as a standalone and after discovering the additional stages for all the positions I don't even think I need to re-install AP. Your animations are way nicer and I get almost everything out of your mod that I desire for RP.  Thanks

 

Shift-H backs you up a stage so you can run a session as long as you like and still run various speeds and positions.

[DarkRavage]

How is the SOS compatible coming up?

[Setekh]

SoS works with SA just fine.

[WaxenFigure]

 

Adding the MCM menus now. I am taking the opportunity to try to also make it translatable which took me some research time to figure out. The text in the ESP will still be english only for the moment but the menus will be translatable.

[CGi]

This might be a rather huge request, but would you mind to add gender specific dialogue, so languages like german and french can be made less neutral and due to this less silly sounding?
For english, both would be the same in most cases (i guess), as it'll just use "you" to adress people, unless you write sentences that contain specific male or female words, like lady, miss, sir, lord and so on.

 

i'm speaking about translating the plugin file ofc. As for german MCM  translations, there is an agreement to an semi standard, so the mentioned problem won't arise there.

[WaxenFigure]

This might be a rather huge request, but would you mind to add gender specific dialogue, so languages like german and french can be made less neutral and due to this less silly sounding?

For english, both would be the same in most cases (i guess), as it'll just use "you" to adress people, unless you write sentences that contain specific male or female words, like lady, miss, sir, lord and so on.

 

i'm speaking about translating the plugin file ofc. As for german MCM  translations, there is an agreement to an semi standard, so the mentioned problem won't arise there.

Thank you for the suggestion, I am only feebly aware of how important gender is to other languages so if you can point out the areas where gender will help translations sound right I will try to make sure I make it possible for gender specific translations.

[DarkRavage]

SoS works with SA just fine.

 

I use SOS UNP and it didn't work.

[CGi]

Thank you for the suggestion, I am only feebly aware of how important gender is to other languages so if you can point out the areas where gender will help translations sound right I will try to make sure I make it possible for gender specific translations.

i thought about my suggestion some more and it actually makes more sense, after i took a look at the new version and asked questions of which gender is targeted, in case it's not clear to me, w/o having to test every dialogue (what can be really time consuming, especially in case of random dialogue), so we can work out step by step, where gender specific dialogue may be needed.

 

in some cases it's not clear, what's the target gender, as the addressing is universal in most cases, when the english language is used.

But this enables mod authors to use the same dialogue for both genders, what's not possible in german, french and estonian. Those are the only languages i can confirm, for which gender specific dialogue is needed, to keep immersion.

 

TL;DR: i'll wait for the next version, that comes with MCM support and then work out the details, of where gender specific dialogue may be needed.

 

Btw: i'll only work on the german translation. Of the other languages i know from aravis here on LL (french) and a friend of mine, who lives in estonia, but we talk in english.

So german and english are the only foreign languages i'm able to use. ^^

[aravis7]

Je confirme^^

 

It could be nice to inform other mod authors about this. There is not much things to do, only use two dialogues (M an F) instead of one in some specific situations, even if they are the same in the english version. It's not only useful for german and french, italian, spanish and most europpean languages are concerned too.

[WaxenFigure]

Je confirme^^

 

It could be nice to inform other mod authors about this. There is not much things to do, only use two dialogues (M an F) instead of one in some specific situations, even if they are the same in the english version. It's not only useful for german and french, italian, spanish and most europpean languages are concerned too.

Let them know, I suspect that at least the ones here in LL wouldn't mind making a few changes just to make sure the translations for their mods don't look silly in those languages.

[CGi]

Je confirme^^

 

It could be nice to inform other mod authors about this. There is not much things to do, only use two dialogues (M an F) instead of one in some specific situations, even if they are the same in the english version. It's not only useful for german and french, italian, spanish and most europpean languages are concerned too.

This would mean, we have to open the ESP in the CK first and mark all female dialogue, so we know what we're looking at in TESVTranslator.

i had the same idea, to simply have gender specific dialogue everywhere, but rejected it, as this would just blow up the file size.

As far as i understood, for the most common languages, like french and german, the gender specific dialogue is needed in the same cases.

i don't know about spain and italian, so feel free to correct me.

[Dlaxa]

Adding the MCM menus now. I am taking the opportunity to try to also make it translatable which took me some research time to figure out. The text in the ESP will still be english only for the moment but the menus will be translatable.

Hi Waxen, really looking forward to the MCM menu and the updates.

Question, I have come across a pop up dialogue box for the first time right after sex per dialogue; it said something like "this person has submitted to you and you have earned access to his home". I am paraphrasing it but more or less that was what it said. Is that a feature in your mod? Because I had not read about it before, not complaining just curious. If it is part of SA what exactly does it mean? I can literally use that persons home as my own? 

The only other mod that I use in this install that could perhaps have triggered that is AP 3.2, but when this happened I did not use AP for sex.

 

It sounded like a perk reward for doing a good job, if so that is a cool idea.

[WaxenFigure]

If you have the "pimp" option turned on and give a satisfying sex act (you cum longer) and the person isn't from a leveled list (like a bandit) then you will be given a key to their home and if you visit their home before you've had sex with 20 other people you will be made a part of their household at the point you visit them. I believe your relationship rank is also set to "lover".

 

That means you can take less expensive items from their home and visit at any hour of the day without trespassing.

[Dlaxa]

If you have the "pimp" option turned on and give a satisfying sex act (you cum longer) and the person isn't from a leveled list (like a bandit) then you will be given a key to their home and if you visit their home before you've had sex with 20 other people you will be made a part of their household at the point you visit them. I believe your relationship rank is also set to "lover".

 

That means you can take less expensive items from their home and visit at any hour of the day without trespassing.

That is cool thanks for the info. I do not recall turning a pimp option on, but perhaps I did not realize it was set, will have to look into it.

The interesting thing is that it happened with one of the guys at Castle Dawnguard, who as far as I know does not have a home other than the castle and since I joined the Dawnguard I should have pretty much the same access as he anyway. Don't think I received a key either but I will check.

I had this happen with a female Char. I take it that for a male it would work the same? I have to play around with that some more. 

 

I just looked at the front page to make sure I was not missing something; I see no mention of this function, do you think you could post a more detailed description of the features SA offers? 

What do you mean that the conversational topic of sex is available on too many NPCs and how do you plan to change that?

 

I wish you would not call your mod obsolete, I think especially because it does so much so well all in one package it is a more than viable alternative to SL; don't sell yourself short, this is a great mod and perfect for people who need - want something in one package; especially since the mod limitations of SKyrim became known and mod hogs like myself have to choose carefully what to keep and what to pass on. 

No question that SL offers more choices, but if I can get 80 % of what I want to experience from one mod it frees up allot of bites for other stuff.