SLSF Fame Comments Reloaded

[Gristle]

4 minutes ago, poetrycollectorme said:

Is there a chance you could include a version/variant that does not edit NPC faces (?) leave it to other NPC overhaul mods instead (?)

For actors where I am cloning vanilla NPCs, yes. I now know how to do that in a manner that allows the changes from NPC overhaul mods to apply to the cloned NPCs. I will update this in the next version.

 

For new NPCs, I'm making the faces so I have to necessarily edit them.

[Khrusaor]

How about adding comments on pubic hair? Could be implemented as a simple toggle in the MCM with three options: shaved, trimmed and natural.

Edited October 10, 2024 by Khrusaor

[AlphaAndOmega]

18 hours ago, Gristle said:

Yes, good point. However, detecting these events is beyond my programming abilities. I still think MCM switches would be useful for the majority of players. I envision that if you leave the 'body attribute' MCM switches on the "normal" (middle) settings, it wouldn't generate any additional or different comments then those that exist now. So, it wouldn't disrupt anyone's play style if left at the default and not used.

 

It *is* hard to come up with good comments on breasts and asses without some size info.

All the Baka's mods leave it subjective to the player and give three sliders in the MCM with certain breakpoint values that influence things. Thus it is not exactly necessary to make it reevaluate in real time, just let the user change things when they deem it applicable. 

 

Additional values for the overall body build are a neat idea.

[NymphoElf]

On 9/26/2024 at 4:52 PM, eflat01 said:

If you were ambitious you could write a two-way patch which converted "intercepted the events" for pushing and pulling data in and out of reload.

 

@eflat01 @Desiree42 - Personally I would recommend attempting to overwrite the old SLSF's fame values with SLSF Reloaded's fame values. The way fame is increased, decayed, and spread are quite different between versions and are highly unlikely to work together in any manageable way. Therefore it would be best (and probably easiest) to simply inject whatever values SLSF Reloaded has into the matching fame type in the old SLSF - if it exists.

 

Aside from that, SLSF Reloaded has many ModEvents that can be utilized to perform most (if not all) of the same things you could with ModEvents in the old SLSF. I did my best to recreate all useful features from the old mod and scrap anything unnecessary or unused.

Edited October 10, 2024 by NymphoElf

[Seeker999]

On 10/9/2024 at 12:50 PM, Gristle said:

Yes, good point. However, detecting these events is beyond my programming abilities. I still think MCM switches would be useful for the majority of players. I envision that if you leave the 'body attribute' MCM switches on the "normal" (middle) settings, it wouldn't generate any additional or different comments then those that exist now. So, it wouldn't disrupt anyone's play style if left at the default and not used.

 

It *is* hard to come up with good comments on breasts and asses without some size info.

Something like this for breasts? Toggle one of these at a time

small

normal/default - as you said, no difference from current

big

busting out

 

then if they start some sort of milking quest, they can toggle this. But wouldn't those mods already have comments? I don't know because I don't use them. And this might be more niche than is practical

cow

 

 

For the butt

small

normal/default - as you said, no difference from current

big/plush

Vavoom

 

[leking]

I don't know if it is from this mod but when i am around aela the huntress she often call a wolf called white fang and says "white fang breed that new blood" and then the wolf fuck my character.

 

Love it. 

 

Suggestion if it come from this mod: change "new blood"  in the phrase with "bitch" = "white fang breed that bitch"  would be perfect

[WizardLookingDude]

On 10/8/2024 at 5:53 PM, Gristle said:

I'd like to do this. Since PC body attributes presumably wouldn't ever change, I think it would be appropriate to add MCM settings for such things. I don't think it needs to be too detailed. What do you think about the following?:

 

...

 

As for male PCs, I'm not sure any different settings are needed. For male PCs, for comment purposes, the settings would likely be used to indicate muscle mass, e.g., 'large breast' would be read as 'large chest', i.e., having a muscular chest and arms. Do we need a cock size setting for male PCs? Is there any player that wouldn't pick 'large' if given an MCM setting? 😅

It depends on the character I'm playing. I play a variety of characters, but for these kinds of mods, most of them exhibitionists. It's hard to imagine a male character who could get away with running around naked unless people had some reason to feel that he wasn't a real threat to their women. A poorly endowed man creates a ready made excuse. Besides, the khajiit tell me that Skyrim is a "cold hard land," and I feel like that cold air would have an effect on anyone running around naked.

 

P.S. I also have a cuckold character whose wife assumes that he is little, so it would seem to fit. Having the ability to toggle such comments on early would help with the early part of the game before he's ready to get married.

 

P.P.S. I can't help thinking, however, that all of these extra conditions must make the mod extraordinarily complicated for you as the author. Is it worth it? I guess only you can say.

[Gristle]

On 10/11/2024 at 9:16 AM, leking said:

I don't know if it is from this mod but when i am around aela the huntress she often call a wolf called white fang and says "white fang breed that new blood" and then the wolf fuck my character.

 

Love it. 

 

Suggestion if it come from this mod: change "new blood"  in the phrase with "bitch" = "white fang breed that bitch"  would be perfect

It does come from this mod. I think I used "new blood" just because Aela uses the term in other scenarios. Bitch works too. Perhaps I'll limit "new blood" to where the PC hasn't finished the companions quest, and use "bitch" after.

[Gristle]

23 hours ago, WizardLookingDude said:

It depends on the character I'm playing. I play a variety of characters, but for these kinds of mods, most of them exhibitionists. It's hard to imagine a male character who could get away with running around naked unless people had some reason to feel that he wasn't a real threat to their women. A poorly endowed man creates a ready made excuse. Besides, the khajiit tell me that Skyrim is a "cold hard land," and I feel like that cold air would have an effect on anyone running around naked.

 

P.S. I also have a cuckold character whose wife assumes that he is little, so it would seem to fit. Having the ability to toggle such comments on early would help with the early part of the game before he's ready to get married.

Currently, the mod comments assume a PC's cock is large, unless they are set as a cuckold in the marriage settings, then all the big cock comments go away and are replaced by small cock comments.  I'll have to check (this might be the case already), but it should be simple to make this "cuckold" toggle work even before before the PC is married. That should take care of it.

23 hours ago, WizardLookingDude said:

P.P.S. I can't help thinking, however, that all of these extra conditions must make the mod extraordinarily complicated for you as the author. Is it worth it? I guess only you can say.

There actually aren't that many comments specifically on breasts and asses. Most of the "naked" comments are much more general. Also, these particular comments are easy to find with keyword searches (e.g., breasts, tits, ass & butt pretty much covers it. So, not that hard to find and dupe existing comments, add a condition, and edit the comments a bit for a smaller or bigger size. But, this is a reason I would likely only do three sizes. 

[petronius]

On 10/12/2024 at 10:21 PM, Gristle said:

Currently, the mod comments assume a PC's cock is large, unless they are set as a cuckold in the marriage settings, then all the big cock comments go away and are replaced by small cock comments.  I'll have to check (this might be the case already), but it should be simple to make this "cuckold" toggle work even before before the PC is married. That should take care of it.

 

Is there a way, either by fiddling with settings, with the plugin or with the scripts, to remove checks that make a cuckold's wife refuse sex with the player? I do enjoy "NTR" but not of the extreme kind, where the player is a hopeless beta. Something I look for in visual novels (without much success), and would love to have in Skyrim, is for situations where your partner cheats not because you screwed up, but because it's in their character (as in, NPCs can have their own agenda, too, and the game doesn't have to revolve around the player and simply react to their actions). It would be cool, if your mod allows for multiple spouses, that some of them might start cheating on their own if they have the right traits, and if caught, depending on traits, some might try to appease you and promise to never cheat again (your call whether or not to forgive them), while some might own it and start treating you like a cuckold, as a development of their character, instead of by checking a box in settings). But, as mentioned, it would be great to have the option for the wife to treat you as a cuck but not reject sex with you. If there's no attraction between you and the wife anymore, it takes some of the pang out of the whole infidelity thing. But she could make you work for it, make you humiliate yourself to please her, force-bi you, but, like a good domina, should balance teasing with rewarding.

 

Sorry, I overextended my comment! Initially, my whole point was to ask you if I could simply edit one or a few of your scripts to remove checks that prevent sex with your wife if cuckold. Or is it more complicated than that? Thanks!

[leking]

What is the probability of a fame event to occur when you have 100 in one type of fame ?

[Dingo-]

Hi. I'm having a strange bug (at least I think it's a bug) with version 3.65 of this mod. Whenever a sexlab animation ends, even if they are not related to this mod, my character's sexlab gender switches from female to male and I have to keep switching it back every time. This was not happening before I updated to the newest version and if I go back to a previous version of this mod (3.5, which is the one I was using before updating), the problem disappears. Any ideas on what could be going on?

[NymphoElf]

Just figured I'd pop in to let people here know that SLSF Reloaded now effectively works with Fame Comments.

 

Fame Comments still requires using the old SLSF to function, but SLSF Reloaded will override the old SLSF's fame values if the "Allow Legacy SLSF Overwrite" option is enabled in SLSF Reloaded (which it is by default).

[blahity]

1 hour ago, NymphoElf said:

Just figured I'd pop in to let people here know that SLSF Reloaded now effectively works with Fame Comments.

 

Fame Comments still requires using the old SLSF to function, but SLSF Reloaded will override the old SLSF's fame values if the "Allow Legacy SLSF Overwrite" option is enabled in SLSF Reloaded (which it is by default).

Cool! I'm still going to hold off a new playthrough until @Gristle's SLSF Reloaded Comments are released. Also I just finished a LOTD playthrough a month ago and need a break from Skyrim

[WizardLookingDude]

5 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

Just figured I'd pop in to let people here know that SLSF Reloaded now effectively works with Fame Comments.

 

Fame Comments still requires using the old SLSF to function, but SLSF Reloaded will override the old SLSF's fame values if the "Allow Legacy SLSF Overwrite" option is enabled in SLSF Reloaded (which it is by default).

Wow! Thank you for that. I'm looking forward to trying it out soon. I can't being to imagine how much work it must of have taken to make that happen. You have been very generous with your time and talents (as so many good mod authors are), and I'm grateful.

[danna233]

On 10/23/2024 at 7:29 AM, NymphoElf said:

Fame Comments still requires using the old SLSF to function

 

To use old SLSF you still need Zaz and God knows what else, I gave up on it at the time, because the console spammed errors about missing objects. From the comments I use the version without scripts, because this mod will never be made separately for subscribers. And all the variety of sexual content, sometimes absurd, spoils my game, this is my personal opinion, someone will probably like it. It's a pity that SLSF Reloaded does not work out of the box with any version of comments (.

[NymphoElf]

7 hours ago, danna233 said:

 

To use old SLSF you still need Zaz and God knows what else, I gave up on it at the time, because the console spammed errors about missing objects. From the comments I use the version without scripts, because this mod will never be made separately for subscribers. And all the variety of sexual content, sometimes absurd, spoils my game, this is my personal opinion, someone will probably like it. It's a pity that SLSF Reloaded does not work out of the box with any version of comments (.

 

It's just zaz... And even then I don't think it's REALLY a requirement. Everything else it needs is very standard. So, no offense, but I feel like a lot of your struggles are User Error

[danna233]

Well, maybe. However, if you read the comments to Sex Lab - Sexual Fame Framework, I'm not alone with this problem. There are other people who have problems with access to non-existent object

[eflat01]

On 10/22/2024 at 5:29 PM, NymphoElf said:

Just figured I'd pop in to let people here know that SLSF Reloaded now effectively works with Fame Comments.

 

Fame Comments still requires using the old SLSF to function, but SLSF Reloaded will override the old SLSF's fame values if the "Allow Legacy SLSF Overwrite" option is enabled in SLSF Reloaded (which it is by default).

 

Nice job... least that will keep them in sync until older mods which use SLSF make the switch.

[NymphoElf]

34 minutes ago, danna233 said:

Well, maybe. However, if you read the comments to Sex Lab - Sexual Fame Framework, I'm not alone with this problem. There are other people who have problems with access to non-existent object

 

If it helps at all, I'm using it with Zaz 8.0+ and it works just fine.

[danna233]

53 minutes ago, NymphoElf said:

If it helps at all, I'm using it with Zaz 8.0+ and it works just fine.

I don't think it's Zaz. It's most likely related to SlaveTats. Well, that's the impression I got, although it was a long time ago, I didn't really look into it because it wasn't really necessary. In SLSF, the tattoo slots are strictly prescribed, they can't even be changed manually (it doesn't work), and the tattoos apparently aren't either. Since then, slave tattoos have been updated several times, unlike SLSF. I think it's just looking for them and not finding them. Well, I'm not a mod, so I could be wrong.

[NymphoElf]

46 minutes ago, danna233 said:

In SLSF, the tattoo slots are strictly prescribed,

 

I'm not sure what you mean by this.

 

 

More to the point though, I fully understand the frustration with SLSF. It's literally the reason why I made SLSF Reloaded. My mod is written from scratch and doesn't have any of the old SLSF's problems. Plus, now it will completely overrule the old mod. So all you'd need to do is make sure the old SLSF is "happy" then simply ignore it.

 

You don't need the old SLSF to use SLSF Reloaded, but for now you'd still need it for Fame Comments. But again, if you use SLSF Reloaded you can effectively ignore the old SLSF and simply use SLSF Reloaded's features because it will override the old SLSF.

Edited October 25, 2024 by NymphoElf

[Raven 54]

On 9/23/2024 at 12:44 PM, eflat01 said:

"Peg! I see, said the blind-man to his deaf wife with the wooden leg." Yes, I'm old and an old sense of humor....

  me too...

[Mikufan39]

Hi @Gristle

Reporting a possible issue when the PC offers to have sex with any NPC
It seems that this only happens when you previously chose the option to find a suitable place to have sex, and when you talk to the NPC again, 2 options appear with the same text
One is to have sex only with the NPC and the other is to have a threesome with the husband

 

The problem here is that I always have to guess which is which 😭

(Also, if my husband is not with me and I choose the threesome option, the event ends automatically without anything happening at all)

 

 

Thank you so much for developing this great mod, it has become one of my favorite adult mods. 💖
 

Sorry for my bad English.

[Kai_OS]

I feel as if Mjoll's comment chance is not tied to the SLSF comment probability, it feels incredibly low in comparison to her normal dialogue and when I set it to 100%, she still managed to say a normal line. Is there anything I can do to fix that?