papaloo Posted February 6, 2012 Posted February 6, 2012 I was doing some troubleshooting, and I found that if I'm facing the person I initiated the group dialogue with the position will show up correctly in some animations, while for others I have to be facing the npc's back(standing directly behind them). I think that anims with penetration I was standing behind while those that were mainly oral I stood in front. Hope that helps. Also I tried rapers with all other mods disabled and the problem persisted.
prideslayer Posted February 6, 2012 Author Posted February 6, 2012 Hang on, you're confusing me. Rapers doesn't know anything about 3ways, and doesn't start any. How can a 3way be incorrectly positioned when it can't even take place? The only positioning bug I'm aware of was introduced when I added the functionality to fixate position and orientation on the player (when present), instead of always on actor B. It was affecting 2 person and 3 person anims, but at this point, I can't remember if it was always messed up when the player was involved, or always messed up when only NPCs were involved, but it was one or the other.
frank19 Posted February 6, 2012 Posted February 6, 2012 Absolutely great mod. Thanks. And a lot of animations I see. Unfortunately several of these animations don't play. The characters move all to the same point at the beginning. And I hear the sex sounds. But there is no animation. The characters just stand there in the same spot until the time is up. Any ideas? Thanks Frank
prideslayer Posted February 6, 2012 Author Posted February 6, 2012 Absolutely great mod. Thanks. And a lot of animations I see. Unfortunately several of these animations don't play. The characters move all to the same point at the beginning. And I hear the sex sounds. But there is no animation. The characters just stand there in the same spot until the time is up. Any ideas? Thanks Frank Thanks! If the answer isn't in the OP (and I suspect it is' date=' under 'known issues'), please return after checking out this handy guide to getting help, and getting it fast! Your problem is either an old and well-known one, or a new one that requires a lot more information to solve.
frank19 Posted February 6, 2012 Posted February 6, 2012 Absolutely great mod. Thanks. And a lot of animations I see. Unfortunately several of these animations don't play. The characters move all to the same point at the beginning. And I hear the sex sounds. But there is no animation. The characters just stand there in the same spot until the time is up. Any ideas? Thanks Frank Thanks! If the answer isn't in the OP (and I suspect it is' date=' under 'known issues'), please return after checking out this handy guide to getting help, and getting it fast! Your problem is either an old and well-known one, or a new one that requires a lot more information to solve. Thank you for the fast answer. I see I need to do some reading. What I don't understand is the relationship between sexout and sexoutNG. The guide relates to sexout. I've only installed SexoutNG. No Sexout. No CommonResources. And no additional plugins. Just cycling through the animations using the console so far. Using Breezes and Type 3 Beware of Girl bodies.
prideslayer Posted February 6, 2012 Author Posted February 6, 2012 Sexout and SexoutNG are "the same thing" these days. Initially there were two different threads here, one for the original sexout by UDLR, one for sexoutNG (my fork). Loogie unstickied the old thread once most of the mods were updated and would only work with NG. Both of the mod files are Sexout.esm. Let me know what you find. I suspect a conflict with another mod.
papersox Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 So I want to start by thanking you all for your amazing work! Kinda inspired me to get back into modding again (once my new comp is rebuilt) and hopefully I will be able to contribute to this rather amusing project. With that said, I so far am getting some odd errors recently. From SCR20120131.3, I started to get NGSAN errors only with the supermuties (9.5, then 9.2 a day later). I updated today to 206, and the NGSAN 9.2 has spread for me to Cazas, Coyotes, Gekkos, and Centaurs too. Unless the anims had been changed and not posted in the OP, all of my files should be in the right place and up to date. load order: FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm CaravanPack.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm Primary Needs HUD.esm MikotoBeauty.esm FFVII Tsurugi Sword.esm The Mod Configuration Menu.esp SexoutSex.esp SmallerTalk.esp SexoutPregnancyNG.esp Sexout LevelUp.esp SexoutRapers.esp SexoutLust.esp SexoutNotify.esp SexoutDiscounts.esp SexoutLust - pHUD.esp Body by Race.esp Armor by Race w Undies.esp SexoutStore.esp BluePipboyLight.esp LightSaberMod.esp StealthArmorFix.esp reward.esp MantisZeroSuit_ForNV.esp 22LR Stun Gun and Ammo.esp WinstonFree.esp BunnySuit-FNV.esp OWBStealthSuit&Invisibility&LightWeight.esp The Sword of a Thousand Truths.esp AsharasLightningItems_ForNV.esp FFVII Tsurugi.esp DMC_Oblivion_Weapons - Fo3 to NV port.esp Fantasy Pack - Fallout New Vegas.esp Mantis07Reflex - Realism.esp VegasChokers.esp Mantis07Reflex.esp Total active plugins: 45 Total plugins: 60 I'm curious if anyone else is having this trouble, and what a fix might be...
prideslayer Posted February 7, 2012 Author Posted February 7, 2012 9.2s again? Argh. This is irritating the hell out of me. I will try to find time this week to really dive into it and try to figure things out. What mod is causing the sex leading to the 9.2? Is it combat rape from rapers.. normal rape from rapers.. the 'creature love' mod? Something else?
astymma Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 So I want to start by thanking you all for your amazing work! Kinda inspired me to get back into modding again (once my new comp is rebuilt) and hopefully I will be able to contribute to this rather amusing project. With that said' date=' I so far am getting some odd errors recently. From SCR20120131.3, I started to get NGSAN errors only with the supermuties (9.5, then 9.2 a day later). I updated today to 206, and the NGSAN 9.2 has spread for me to Cazas, Coyotes, Gekkos, and Centaurs too. Unless the anims had been changed and not posted in the OP, all of my files should be in the right place and up to date. load order: FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm CaravanPack.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm Primary Needs HUD.esm MikotoBeauty.esm FFVII Tsurugi Sword.esm The Mod Configuration Menu.esp SexoutSex.esp SmallerTalk.esp SexoutPregnancyNG.esp Sexout LevelUp.esp SexoutRapers.esp SexoutLust.esp SexoutNotify.esp SexoutDiscounts.esp SexoutLust - pHUD.esp Body by Race.esp Armor by Race w Undies.esp SexoutStore.esp BluePipboyLight.esp LightSaberMod.esp StealthArmorFix.esp reward.esp MantisZeroSuit_ForNV.esp 22LR Stun Gun and Ammo.esp WinstonFree.esp BunnySuit-FNV.esp OWBStealthSuit&Invisibility&LightWeight.esp The Sword of a Thousand Truths.esp AsharasLightningItems_ForNV.esp FFVII Tsurugi.esp DMC_Oblivion_Weapons - Fo3 to NV port.esp Fantasy Pack - Fallout New Vegas.esp Mantis07Reflex - Realism.esp VegasChokers.esp Mantis07Reflex.esp Total active plugins: 45 Total plugins: 60 I'm curious if anyone else is having this trouble, and what a fix might be... [/quote'] Are you using SmallerTalk's new functionality to talk to creatures to initiate sex with you as the giver? Most (if not all) of the critter animations are you as the receiver, critter as giver and you'd get all kinds of 9.2 NGSAN errors if you aren't using a supported positioning of critter and human.
papersox Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 So I want to start by thanking you all for your amazing work! Kinda inspired me to get back into modding again (once my new comp is rebuilt) and hopefully I will be able to contribute to this rather amusing project. With that said' date=' I so far am getting some odd errors recently. From SCR20120131.3, I started to get NGSAN errors only with the supermuties (9.5, then 9.2 a day later). I updated today to 206, and the NGSAN 9.2 has spread for me to Cazas, Coyotes, Gekkos, and Centaurs too. Unless the anims had been changed and not posted in the OP, all of my files should be in the right place and up to date. load order: FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm CaravanPack.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm Primary Needs HUD.esm MikotoBeauty.esm FFVII Tsurugi Sword.esm The Mod Configuration Menu.esp SexoutSex.esp SmallerTalk.esp SexoutPregnancyNG.esp Sexout LevelUp.esp SexoutRapers.esp SexoutLust.esp SexoutNotify.esp SexoutDiscounts.esp SexoutLust - pHUD.esp Body by Race.esp Armor by Race w Undies.esp SexoutStore.esp BluePipboyLight.esp LightSaberMod.esp StealthArmorFix.esp reward.esp MantisZeroSuit_ForNV.esp 22LR Stun Gun and Ammo.esp WinstonFree.esp BunnySuit-FNV.esp OWBStealthSuit&Invisibility&LightWeight.esp The Sword of a Thousand Truths.esp AsharasLightningItems_ForNV.esp FFVII Tsurugi.esp DMC_Oblivion_Weapons - Fo3 to NV port.esp Fantasy Pack - Fallout New Vegas.esp Mantis07Reflex - Realism.esp VegasChokers.esp Mantis07Reflex.esp Total active plugins: 45 Total plugins: 60 I'm curious if anyone else is having this trouble, and what a fix might be... [/quote'] Are you using SmallerTalk's new functionality to talk to creatures to initiate sex with you as the giver? Most (if not all) of the critter animations are you as the receiver, critter as giver and you'd get all kinds of 9.2 NGSAN errors if you aren't using a supported positioning of critter and human. Thanks for the quick reply. I only just upgraded smallertalk today, so this wouldnt be applicable to my earlier errors from the supermuties (from thursday last week I believe). Ive been using the combat rape, which my char should be the receiver (unless theres something shes not telling me ) and up until this week never received any of these errors. *edit: I should mention the 9.2 is also from a clean save, while the 9.5 occurred after upgrading an older save file (turned off the mods I upgraded, opened older save, created save w/ them off, then turned the mods on).
prideslayer Posted February 7, 2012 Author Posted February 7, 2012 There is no 9.5 error, never has been. The only one that has a .5 is 10.5, which is a 3way error indicating that actorC is in the banned actors list.
dizzyman Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 If I do a clean install of NG .52, it seems at least some settings are not being set properly; NG override apparently off, clothing/redressing settings blank, male NPC body blank (I'm using Breeze's), camera delay set to zero, possibly others. If I have sex with a female NPC without changing any settings, the female NPC gets stuck with a "No Weapon" and "nude body" in their inventory (setting/resetting bodysuit and redressing settings prevents this). If I do an unclean upgrade from NG .49 to .52, the old settings are retained I think.
prideslayer Posted February 7, 2012 Author Posted February 7, 2012 You need to give it time after the first run, the quest scripts don't run immediately; it'll take 5 or 6 seconds for them to run the first time and set the initial values, longer if you have lots of mods. Entering any "menu mode" (loading screen, pip boy, console) pauses the clock. It's not initialized until you get the notification message about the version.
prideslayer Posted February 7, 2012 Author Posted February 7, 2012 Initial Test Results Some test results with the current ESM based on bug reports received. These tests were run with a bare minimum of mods loaded. List exported from FOMM. FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm MikotoBeauty.esm Primary Needs HUD.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutLegion.esm BlueTint.esp bzArmour.esp bzBodySuits.esp MikotoBeauty.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp FalloutNVCheatTerminal.esp Type 6.esp Centered 3rd Person Camera - Unraised.esp Total active plugins: 18 Total plugins: 40 - Creatures appear to be working fine, testing limited. I tried Cheyenne and some of old lady gibsons dogs, and meansonofabitch (supermutant). All worked fine, though (as usual) the dog eyeballs did pop out of their heads.. heh. - 3ways seem to be working fine with 2NPC + Player, character is not facing the wrong way. Tested with random NPCs + player, did not look at NPC-only 3ways. - Some MCM settings ARE not being set properly initially. I'll have a fix out tonight or tomorrow for this, sorry about that. Seems to affect bodysuits and undress/redress options, maybe others as well. This is certainly due to the new version numbering vars + me being an idiot.
prideslayer Posted February 7, 2012 Author Posted February 7, 2012 There are somehow two orphaned dialogs in sexout. GREETING (no changes, but it's there) and SexoutSexDoctorBuy. No clue how greeting got in there, but it shows up all green in FNVEdit. The doctor one is for the removed doctor NPC and quest. Going to delete them both in the next release.. how they got missed and what they're doing here is a mystery to me right now.
dizzyman Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Just tried letting a clean .52 install run for a good few minutes but got no version notification. Sorry, forgot to mention I'd tried leaving it for around 30 seconds before.
prideslayer Posted February 7, 2012 Author Posted February 7, 2012 The version notification is only in the console now, it no longer pops up in the corner. You should get a message along the lines of "version system changed, settings reset" or something like that if you try it from a sexout-clean save. Did you get that message?
muertos69 Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Getting 9.2 errors again for coyotes near canyon wreckage travel point. See pic below for console readout, because this time its giving a formid looking bit with the error. Also geckos seem to not be picking an animation when trying a rape.
Halstrom Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 V2.3.52 plugins in OP.- Go back to creature formlists instead of factions. This is a promotion of the beta ESM download to release. The factions still exist' date=' but to those using them, please stop and switch to the formlists instead. Sorry. [/quote'] No Problemo, we understand you would rather get the best system working now than break heaps later or put up witth limitations & buginess of the original system
dizzyman Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 The version notification is only in the console now' date=' it no longer pops up in the corner. You should get a message along the lines of "version system changed, settings reset" or something like that if you try it from a sexout-clean save. Did you get that message? [/quote'] No I just got the messages for added stuff like the reset gun (no messages with unclean upgrade). Stuff in the console looked okay.
papersox Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 For the supermuties, it seems only the ones in Black mountain are giving me the 9.2 error. Mutie in west side, and Jacobstown work fine. Also tested on Dogs (Cheyanne, Violetta's fiend guarddogs, and the junkyard lady) and these seem to be fine, but Coyotes are still giving a 9.2 error. Screenshot of mutant error:
prideslayer Posted February 7, 2012 Author Posted February 7, 2012 thanks for the heads up. Ill check out black mountain @ the coyotes.
DoctaSax Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 (Sorry if this is considered old history by now.) I was wondering if NG's gay & bi lists could be pre-filled with the NPCs identified in Sexout Orientation Express. I'd rather not use that because the newer versions seem to assign orientation to random npcs, which is a feature I don't really want, and it would eliminate requiring an extra mod to be loaded just to fill in the lists with the few npcs we actually already know to be gay or bi. Don't mean to step on Jaam's toes - I just think it would be simpler.(Adding new npc's would obviously still need express or whatever else may come along.) I realize you already have quite a to-do list, pride. But if you're good with the idea, I could get you an esp to do overrides with, keeping the work to a minimum.
prideslayer Posted February 7, 2012 Author Posted February 7, 2012 If you want to provide the esp, I have no problem getting it merged in. Others are much more familiar with the nitty gritty lore details on that kind of stuff than I am, so I haven't made any attempt at doing it myself.
astymma Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 (Sorry if this is considered old history by now.) I was wondering if NG's gay & bi lists could be pre-filled with the NPCs identified in Sexout Orientation Express. I'd rather not use that because the newer versions seem to assign orientation to random npcs' date=' which is a feature I don't really want, and it would eliminate requiring an extra mod to be loaded just to fill in the lists with the few npcs we actually already know to be gay or bi. Don't mean to step on Jaam's toes - I just think it would be simpler.(Adding new npc's would obviously still need express or whatever else may come along.) I realize you already have quite a to-do list, pride. But if you're good with the idea, I could get you an esp to do overrides with, keeping the work to a minimum. [/quote'] You could ask the orientation express creator to MCM that mod and provide options for how it works instead.
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