prideslayer Posted February 12, 2012 Author Posted February 12, 2012 I've noticed the MCM option to set Player Sexual Orientation is Gabonky for some reason. Dammit still? Chase just said that in his thread, but that's with an old version. Figures I was just posting an update when you said this. It doesn't touch orientation though, so if it's broken in .54, it's still broken in .55. I'll look at it.
prideslayer Posted February 12, 2012 Author Posted February 12, 2012 warrrrrrrgh V2.3.56 plugins in OP - Fixed player orientation MCM bug.
saladboy21 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Hmmmm am I the only one having the problem with the freezing?
Guest Loogie Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Okay, the problem I reported with sleep deprivation was inaccurate before. I only noticed it during two female rapes, but it happens all the time. What actually happens is every time a sex act completes, whether or not the player is involved, 20 is added to sleep deprivation and whether or not you're in hardcore mode. I've tested it with the player, Cass and Veronica performing sex acts on legionaries, but it happens regardless of which mod triggers it. I saw someone else report this, but not in great detail. Right now the work around seems to be activating hardcore mode then deactivating it to reset the counter to 0. My load order is as follows: [ ] FalloutNV.esm [ ] DeadMoney.esm [ ] HonestHearts.esm [ ] OldWorldBlues.esm [ ] LonesomeRoad.esm [ ] TribalPack.esm [ ] ClassicPack.esm [ ] CaravanPack.esm [ ] MercenaryPack.esm [ ] GunRunnersArsenal.esm [X] CFWNV.esm [X] New Vegas Redesigned.esm [X] drgNV - Melissa Companion.esm [X] Primary Needs HUD.esm [X] MikotoBeauty.esm [X] Sexout.esm [X] SexoutCommonResources.esm [X] SexoutLegion.esm [X] The Mod Configuration Menu.esp [X] GRA_Grunt_Patch.esp [X] GunRunnersArsenal Integration Mod.esp [X] MikotoBeauty.esp [X] mikotocassveronicahair.esp [X] HY_WasteWar2.esp [X] T3Belts_BootsNV2.esp [X] HomeCooking.esp [X] Weight8000.esp [X] URWLNV.esp [X] CaesarsFavorFoeHireFix.esp [X] DeadMoneyWeaponFixes.esp [X] KDC_Companions_Removable_Armors.esp [X] No Weapon Remove Dead Money.esp [X] TorresInventoryExpansion.esp [X] LDFemaleT51b.esp [X] populatedcasino.esp [X] Centered 3rd Person Camera.esp [X] Charisma Based Follower Limit.esp [X] T3Belts_BootsNV.esp [X] Cass Barks.esp [X] Dead Money - No Collar Explosion and No Poison Cloud.esp [X] sandblasterarmor.esp [X] slinkydress.esp [X] FNV vanilla hat fix.esp [X] Readius_NV.esp [X] ZCPA_NV_v1.0.esp [X] The Weapon Mod Menu.esp [X] No Companion Limit_DeadMoney.esp [X] NWIxiaarmor1.esp [X] Better Burned Man.esp [X] Alternate Cass Karma Check.esp [X] SexoutWorkingGirl.esp [X] SexoutPowderGangers.esp [X] SexoutKings.esp [X] SexoutKhans.esp [X] SexoutFiends.esp [X] SexoutRapers.esp [X] SexoutStore.esp [X] SmallerTalk.esp [X] LessWhiteLegWeaponry.esp [X] SexoutZAZ.esp [X] SexoutNCR.esp [X] SexoutSS.esp [X] SexoutPregnancyNG.esp
prideslayer Posted February 12, 2012 Author Posted February 12, 2012 Ok. I need to take a step back and figure this out working from the other direction. If you or some other modder wanted to affect the sleep deprivation value, how would you do it?
prideslayer Posted February 12, 2012 Author Posted February 12, 2012 Ok, it turns out that sleep deprivation is an "assoc item" you can select in spell base effects when the effect archetype is set to "value modifier". There is an existing base effect (that is not used by any vanilla or sexout spells) that has this setting, called DamageSleepDeprivationLevel. I am looking through all the spells now to see if any of them are set to that archetype and item. EDIT: None of the base effects in Sexout are set to that item or archetype either. All of them are script types except "SexoutChameleonBase" which is "Chameleon" type, whatever that does. It is used by the SexoutChamelon enchantment, which itself is used by nothing.
astymma Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 In SexoutNGKnockdown you have the following: self.DamageAV Fatigue fTemp That the problem?
prideslayer Posted February 12, 2012 Author Posted February 12, 2012 In SexoutNGKnockdown you have the following: self.DamageAV Fatigue fTemp That the problem? No, fatigue is not the same as sleep deprivation. Fatigue just knocks you out for a while. Sleep deprivation is a hardcore mode thing that slowly grows over time until you sleep, and can be temporarily fixed with nukacola and other stimulants.
Guest Loogie Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 I had a suspicion the thing used to display messages in pregnancy might cause it, but that didn't pan out. My sleep deprivation is at 300, and it doesn't always give you a message about it rising. I can easily see how someone not paying attention could die from it - only reason I even noticed was the HUD I use.
astymma Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 In SexoutNGKnockdown you have the following: self.DamageAV Fatigue fTemp That the problem? No' date=' fatigue is not the same as sleep deprivation. Fatigue just knocks you out for a while. Sleep deprivation is a hardcore mode thing that slowly grows over time until you sleep, and can be temporarily fixed with nukacola and other stimulants. [/quote'] Sigh... I know the difference hehe, just checking if DamageAv fatigue has side-effects. You should also check and see if you're altering TimeScale at all. Also, when searching, remember to search for deprEvation and not deprIvation. They didn't spell the word correctly when making the game.
prideslayer Posted February 12, 2012 Author Posted February 12, 2012 I'm looking for other spells using that effect. Protip: Don't try to sort by the "Effect 1" column in the geck, for base effects. For me it just = geck crash.
prideslayer Posted February 12, 2012 Author Posted February 12, 2012 It's in SCR SexoutSBASEDamSleepDepLevel. Dunno what mods are/might be using it in their spells.
Sleepy_Soul Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Hmmmm am I the only one having the problem with the freezing? Is anyone else running into a game freezing problem with the SexoutRapers.esp? *Abridged* Tested Rapers.esp with Sexout.esm 1.2.42' date=' and the freezing problem didn't occur after 'hanging out' with the Rat Pack for 10 minutes with the Stalker Frequency set at 26. I read in a few posts back that Rapers.esp isn't being updated along with the rest of the main Sexout.esm, so it seems an eventuality that it would get buggy at some point. [/quote'] Not alone saladboy21. I ran into this problem as per my previous post back the v1's of Sexout. I found that placing Rapers.esp last in the load order fixed the freezing rather than using an older Sexout.esm version. It really comes down to the need of Rapers.esp being updated, but it's been addressed before and is on the to-do list I'm sure. I am recently running into a ton of freezing-then-CTDs on my end in the during/after sex sequences with the latest mods installed, but I'm pretty sure one of my saves got corrupted after I started using a save manager mod (Caesar's Fort area transition will 100% CTD even with no mods activated). So methinks it's time to wipe the slate clean with a shiny new game.
prideslayer Posted February 12, 2012 Author Posted February 12, 2012 Found another one in pregnancy : SexoutFDamSleepDepLevel (3 users) I don't know why there are so many -- all the spells that need this should just be using the base effect from the vanilla game. Also pregnancy adds a spell using the vanilla one. The spells are: SexoutFPregTightClothes SexoutFPregTooTightClothes SexoutFBirthTooTightClothes SexoutFPregBannedClothes All of them appear to be properly checking for hardcore mode.
Guest Loogie Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Well, something isn't properly checking. And whatever it is checks right at the end of a sex act, as soon as the squish noise and juice jet show up. I know it's not in pregnancy because I disabled it to test that.
prideslayer Posted February 12, 2012 Author Posted February 12, 2012 Well' date=' something isn't properly checking. And whatever it is checks right at the end of a sex act, as soon as the squish noise and juice jet show up. I know it's not in pregnancy because I disabled it to test that. [/quote'] Gotcha. I know it's not core sexout either, it does nothing with any of that sleep deprivation crap. I'm checking the others that I have installed but it's a somewhat tedious process -- no more or less than disabling mods and going in to test I guess.
prideslayer Posted February 12, 2012 Author Posted February 12, 2012 Also' date=' when searching, remember to search for deprEvation and not deprIvation. They didn't spell the word correctly when making the game. [/quote'] Easier to just search for 'sleep' then worry about what beth spelled wrong vs. what modders (might) have spelled correctly. The ones in SCR and Preg just say 'dep'.
Guest Loogie Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 I've just determined it's not in SCR by running a test with just Sexout, SCR and Legion running. Next I'll enable the Tryouts.
Guest Loogie Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 So far it's not Tryouts, pregnancy, SCR or Sexout itself.
prideslayer Posted February 12, 2012 Author Posted February 12, 2012 Doesn't appear to be in SS, rapers, brutalrapers, or sexoutsex. Count for all the sleep effects in those is 0 except for the "good" vanilla one that restores it.
Guest Loogie Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Sewer Slave is the culprit. It only happens with it enabled.
saladboy21 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Not alone saladboy21. I ran into this problem as per my previous post back the v1's of Sexout. I found that placing Rapers.esp last in the load order fixed the freezing rather than using an older Sexout.esm version. I either missed or forgot it' date=' sorry. Not ignoring you honest. It really comes down to the need of Rapers.esp being updated, but it's been addressed before and is on the to-do list I'm sure. I am recently running into a ton of freezing-then-CTDs on my end in the during/after sex sequences with the latest mods installed, but I'm pretty sure one of my saves got corrupted after I started using a save manager mod (Caesar's Fort area transition will 100% CTD even with no mods activated). So methinks it's time to wipe the slate clean with a shiny new game. Sex is not causing any for me atm, but I will keep an eye. I will move rapers to very last, thank you for the advice.
prideslayer Posted February 12, 2012 Author Posted February 12, 2012 Sewer Slave is the culprit. It only happens with it enabled. Really.. hmmm ok give me a minute. Is this with the latest one in my last post in that thread, or one of the official ones? I have a beta there right now that fixes the animations to work with ZAZ.
Guest Loogie Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 This is with your last beta one, but I had this problem before that, too. Looking at SS in FNVedit, I notice some odd things, like infected brahmin meat named in German and an edit of the Hanlon quest dialog at Camp Golf. EDIT: HA There's an edit of the Sexout cum script, 00SexoutCumScript, in there. I'll crack it open in the GECK, but I bet it's the culprit.
Guest Loogie Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 scn 00SexoutCumScript ref actor ref cum short angle Begin ScriptEffectStart set actor to GetSelf set cum to PlaceAtMe SexoutCream Player.DamageAV hunger -5 Player.DamageAV dehydration -5 Player.DamageAV sleepdeprevation 20 end Begin ScriptEffectUpdate if cum == 0 return endif set angle to GetAngle X cum.SetAngle X angle set angle to GetAngle Y cum.SetAngle Y angle set angle to GetAngle Z cum.SetAngle Z angle cum.MoveTo actor end Begin ScriptEffectFinish if cum cum.Disable cum.MarkForDelete set cum to 0 endif End Is what it reads like in SS. The original Sexout version is: scn 00SexoutCumScript ref actor ref cum short angle Begin ScriptEffectStart set actor to GetSelf set cum to PlaceAtMe SexoutCream end Begin ScriptEffectUpdate if cum == 0 return endif set angle to GetAngle X cum.SetAngle X angle set angle to GetAngle Y cum.SetAngle Y angle set angle to GetAngle Z cum.SetAngle Z angle cum.MoveTo actor end Begin ScriptEffectFinish if cum cum.Disable cum.MarkForDelete set cum to 0 endif End So it looks like Sewer Slave makes cumming make you less hungry and thirsty but sleepy, without checking for hardcore mode. Didn't notice the other two effects because you can't get lower than 0.
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