Yuutou Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 Hadn't touched Skyrim LE in about a month or two, and got the itch to play it again recently after watching some mod showcases. So, I go to Mod Organizer to boot it up like usual, go through the launcher process, and... Where'd the window go? For some reason, Skyrim isn't even showing up for more than a split second in the task manager, and crashing before the logo or even the window can show face. I've followed multiple guides and tutorials as to how to do this, to absolutely no avail and zero progress. Removing the directory for MM and just booting it up vanilla on Steam doesn't work. SKSE launcher doesn't give a thing. LOOT completely shit itself and said Skyrim didn't even exist, and Steam's cache verification said I was missing a single file each time I scanned, although I think that's just the default for the graphic settings. I'm seriously stumped here. I haven't encountered anything like this, let alone seen anything specific aside from people saying they had a similar issue years ago with some resolution, and those solutions haven't worked for me at all. I've uninstalled Skyrim, reinstalled, uninstalled Steam and reinstalled, moved the Steam folder to an external hard drive in case of permission issues, moved it back to program files, deleted the files of Skyrim themselves and letting Steam reinstate them, cleared Steam's cache folder, letting Skyrim reset the .ini and .prefs, deleted my saves with backups, ran in compatibility mode, ran as administrator, hell, I took the time to reinstall things like DirectX 10 and 11, Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime 2010, Microsoft ASP .NET MVC 4 Runtime, XNA Framework, and so many other roundabout things that I've lost count. So, uh, my last option is to inquire about it online, lol. Anyone have any ideas, or is Skyrim LE just held together by nothing but staples at this point? If all else fails, I can just switch to SE, but I know that most mods here and on Nexus don't exist for it quite yet, plus the irksome updates that like to break your shit.
Uncle64 Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 Did you start skyrim from inside Steam after verification? Oh and where have you installed your Skyrim?
Yuutou Posted January 26, 2020 Author Posted January 26, 2020 I did that, yes. Tried running it in compatibility and admin too. Currently I have Skyrim installed in my Steam folder which is in Program Files (x64), I'd moved it to my F: drive prior but that didn't work either.
GenioMaestro Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 I thinking in a mix of problems with Win10, Skyrim LE and ENB. Have you installed DirectX (June 2010)? Is necesary to start SyrimLE with ENB in Win10. If that not solve your problem take a look to the originial post. Maybe some of the others tips can help you.
Yuutou Posted January 26, 2020 Author Posted January 26, 2020 I have, even then it does not seem to work, so it isn't the issue I think. I thankfully don't ever use any ENBs because my computer is only decent. Don't think it's a Windows 10 issue, SLE ran perfectly fine prior. I'll take a look at the post though!
KoolHndLuke Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 You said you had just watched some mod showcases, did you install any new mods? Are all your other games working fine? Will the game load in X-Edit? Have you changed any of the parts on your pc lately or updated anything like your drivers? Have you run a virus scan? Running in compatibility mode is unnecessary as well, but I know you were just trying anything to get it working again. Oh, and it would help if you could post your mods/load order in a spoiler, please.
Yuutou Posted January 26, 2020 Author Posted January 26, 2020 I haven't downloaded any new mods in half a year, and every other game I own works perfectly, including that of Oblivion and Skyrim's Special Edition. The only game I can think of that crashes the same way Skyrim LE does is Unreal Tournament. Quote Will the game load in X-Edit? ... Oh. I actually hadn't thought of using X-Edit. Just checked and the Skyrim.esm has 323 errors from one 3 minute scan. I'm almost baffled because I literally did not touch this game in any way for a month and when I went to boot it up it just didn't work. Did... did Skyrim try to destroy itself or something? I dread to think about the other .esm files. Will post more as I continue digging.
KoolHndLuke Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, Yuutou said: I actually hadn't thought of using X-Edit. Just checked and the Skyrim.esm has 323 errors from one 3 minute scan. I'm almost baffled because I literally did not touch this game in any way for a month and when I went to boot it up it just didn't work. Did... did Skyrim try to destroy itself or something? I dread to think about the other .esm files. Will post more as I continue digging. Did you verify your game cache through Steam again? Should fix that stuff I think.
Yuutou Posted January 26, 2020 Author Posted January 26, 2020 I did, it only lists the one issue as mentioned prior. Thinking about it, it could just be the errors that Bethesda just left in, I am scanning all of this without the USP - if so than jesus christ this game really is made out of staples- Thankfully that rules out the .esms themselves being my problem, now the fun part is trying to find where the problem itself actually lies. :'D
KoolHndLuke Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, Yuutou said: Thinking about it, it could just be the errors that Bethesda just left in I'm assuming that you use the unofficial patch? It doesn't fix all errors, but some anyway. And yeah, it does sound like a mod related error borking your game, though I don't know how if the game ran fine before and you haven't changed anything. Oh, and try ENBoost with the graphics enhancement turned off- that should boost your performance somewhat once you get things running.
GenioMaestro Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 Locate your SKSE.ini and be sure you have the lines: [Debug] WriteMiniDumps=1 Start the game through skse_loader and go to the folder Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE\Crashdumps Upload your more recent dmp file. I can open it with Visual Studio. Maybe the dump can say us why your game is making CTD.
Yuutou Posted January 26, 2020 Author Posted January 26, 2020 48 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said: I'm assuming that you use the unofficial patch? It doesn't fix all errors, but some anyway. And yeah, it does sound like a mod related error borking your game, though I don't know how if the game ran fine before and you haven't changed anything. Oh, and try ENBoost with the graphics enhancement turned off- that should boost your performance somewhat once you get things running. It would make sense if it were mod-related, but I removed all of my mods and restored the game to its original state several times, that's the most confusing part. 44 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said: Locate your SKSE.ini and be sure you have the lines: [Debug] WriteMiniDumps=1 Start the game through skse_loader and go to the folder Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE\Crashdumps Upload your more recent dmp file. I can open it with Visual Studio. Maybe the dump can say us why your game is making CTD. Did all as followed, and even after doing so, there are no dmp files being generated, so either I'm super tired and didn't align the registry right (pretty sure I did), or the game itself actually isn't crashing and is just shutting down on startup. My directories are as follows: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\SKSE.ini C:\Users\[Me]\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE Unsure if I did it right or not, it's 5 AM and I've been trying to wrap my head around this for days, lol.
GenioMaestro Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Yuutou said: It would make sense if it were mod-related, but I removed all of my mods and restored the game to its original state several times, that's the most confusing part. Did all as followed, and even after doing so, there are no dmp files being generated, so either I'm super tired and didn't align the registry right (pretty sure I did), or the game itself actually isn't crashing and is just shutting down on startup. My directories are as follows: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\SKSE.ini C:\Users\[Me]\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE Unsure if I did it right or not, it's 5 AM and I've been trying to wrap my head around this for days, lol. Close your Mod Organizer and try start the game manually. Are you executing skseloader.exe? Maybe you have a bad shortcut in your desktop or inside MO. If you launch the game from Steam the skseloader.exe is not executed and the dmp is not generated. Go to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim and make double click over skseloader.exe Maybe you have a bad instalation of SKSE. Try reinstall SKSE from https://skse.silverlock.org/ ussing the installer version. I presume you have restarted your machine. If not, make it. Sometimes, the TESV.exe have a problem where is in execution but not show anything and launch the game again make absolutelly nothing because the game is already executing. Open the Task Manager and verify that TESV.exe is not in the Process list.
KoolHndLuke Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 43 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said: Maybe you have a bad shortcut in your desktop or inside MO I've had this happen more than once.
Yuutou Posted January 27, 2020 Author Posted January 27, 2020 11 hours ago, GenioMaestro said: Are you executing skseloader.exe? Maybe you have a bad shortcut in your desktop or inside MO. Maybe you have a bad instalation of SKSE. Open the Task Manager and verify that TESV.exe is not in the Process list. I've been using the skseloader.exe throughout this entire thing, actually. It doesn't seem to work. I'm really unsure if it's SKSE itself, because I just recently reinstalled the latest version. It's really got me scratching my head. As for task manager, I've checked every time I've booted the game up. It only shows for a split second before executing its own service. The one time it seemed to stay was as a background service only using memory, about 0.6 MB of it. It never launched the game itself.
GenioMaestro Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 5 hours ago, Yuutou said: I've been using the skseloader.exe throughout this entire thing, actually. It doesn't seem to work. As for task manager, I've checked every time I've booted the game up. I presume you have tried making double click over TESV.exe directly with the same result, true? Have your tried executing SkyrimLauncher.exe and click play? But I expect the same. Try change the graphical options with SkyrimLauncher and revise the pluging list. I doubt a probem in DirectX or C++ because other games works and you already reinstaled it. I doubt a virus or malware problem. Others games and programas must have problems. I'm near out of ideas but try cleaning the folders that the reinstalation of the game not clean. Go to Documents\My Games\Skyrim and make a security copy of all the files. Delete everything, left the folder empty, and launch the game. Maybe you have a bad INI file. Go to C:\Users\[your_name]\AppData\Local\Skyrim and make a security copy of all the files. Delete everything, left the folder empty, and launch the game. Maybe you have a bad pluging list.
Yuutou Posted January 29, 2020 Author Posted January 29, 2020 Damn, still no cigar. It really doesn't boot up anymore, and I still don't know what's causing the problem. Thank you for your effort, all of you, it's genuinely appreciated. I'm probably going to just make the switch from LE to SE at this point, since everything I've tried hasn't seemed to work and I've been at it for almost a week. RIP o7
Grey Cloud Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 30 minutes ago, Yuutou said: I'm probably going to just make the switch from LE to SE at this point And what will that achieve?
Andy14 Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 Maybe you have too many subfolders in the data. The length of the string that Skyrim can read is limited. (The length of all folder names with the deepest hierarchy including the longest file name in the last folder.) And you should let Steam check your files.
Yuutou Posted January 30, 2020 Author Posted January 30, 2020 On 1/29/2020 at 1:04 AM, Grey Cloud said: And what will that achieve? SE is 64x whereas LE is 32x, so it will probs work a little better, lol On 1/29/2020 at 9:23 AM, Andy14 said: Maybe you have too many subfolders in the data. The length of the string that Skyrim can read is limited. (The length of all folder names with the deepest hierarchy including the longest file name in the last folder.) And you should let Steam check your files. I'm not sure? As I said in the original post, I did remove all of my mods and delete the files to let Steam restore them to their default order - that's what's confused me the most, it's completely, newly installed and immediately shuts down the moment it starts up. Is there another way to organize it?
Grey Cloud Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 28 minutes ago, Yuutou said: SE is 64x whereas LE is 32x, so it will probs work a little better, lol Not if it configured incorrectly. You need to go back to the beginning. Forget mods for now and get the vanilla game installed away from the x86 folder and working. Once you have done that then you can think about launching via SKSE and/or your mod manager.
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