The Ancient Profession 2024-06-24

[waiyan]

How many are bestialty quests in this mod?

[calvin_0]

8 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

I have never received any similar reports or encountered that myself, so the chances are excellent that this is either entirely caused by something else you have installed or is caused by an interaction between something else and TAP. You may have to do a little bit of the up-front work digging into what might be causing it. The more info you can give me, the more likely I can fix it, if it's something that I actually can fix.

 

I found another NPC with this problem... Benjen Black-Briar.. very specifically, when he request to have sex with my PC, the same glitch happen... having sex with him via other means such as getting rape by him, through SLEN or begging via SL Survive, is completely fine...

 

considering that, the glitch happen to both Argonian Ambassador and Benjen Black-Briar through dialogue from your mod... all point to the problem from your mod...

 

further note, it seems like the glitch only happen at the end of sex scene... i still have control during sex scene... but at the end, i lost all control.... it seems like something wasnt terminating properly in sex scene with Argonian Ambassador and Benjen Black-Briar when trigger through dialogue from your mod.

 

that said, there is still a none zero chance that this is just a result from a bad savefile, so I'm going to start a new character to see if this problem still happens.

 

[ruddycray]

18 hours ago, calvin_0 said:

 

if there is something in my modlist that is causing the problem, then it wont only affect one NPC from your mod... there is no problem with all other NPC, including other male argonian NPC... so it makes no sense that only one NPC from your mod have this problem if the problem lies within my modlist.

 

however, now that i think of it a little bit more, i have this problem with 3 characters and the only common link is, they are all clone made from one savefile.... once I finish my current testing, I'm going to make a new character and see if the problem still persist.

 

I'm not completely dismissing the idea that there could be something I need to fix but usually when I get an unusual bug report on a quest almost everyone who plays the mod has almost certainly done, it's one of two things. Either there's a mod interaction or someone is doing the quest in an unusual way that I didn't account for. Either way I need more to go on to fix it if it's something I can fix.

[ruddycray]

19 hours ago, waiyan said:

How many are bestialty quests in this mod?

 

Look back on page 95. Somebody just asked that recently.

[waiyan]

When I made my pc a succubus through MCM, the cure quest did not trigger. Will it trigger after I've finished the succubus related quest?

[ruddycray]

3 hours ago, waiyan said:

When I made my pc a succubus through MCM, the cure quest did not trigger. Will it trigger after I've finished the succubus related quest?

 

It should. The cure quest does require completing the Vanikseth quests because that character is the one who cures you.

[waiyan]

5 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

It should. The cure quest does require completing the Vanikseth quests because that character is the one who cures you.

Could you please make an optional patch to increase the duration of Souls for Health/Magic/Durability. 40-50 minuts would be nice.

[ruddycray]

9 hours ago, waiyan said:

Could you please make an optional patch to increase the duration of Souls for Health/Magic/Durability. 40-50 minuts would be nice.

 

I'll look into it. Next version will have a lot of succubus tweaks in the MCM, so as long as I can configure the duration with script, it should be possible.

[waiyan]

1 hour ago, ruddycray said:

 

I'll look into it. Next version will have a lot of succubus tweaks in the MCM, so as long as I can configure the duration with script, it should be possible.

Cool. Any plan to add more powers like physical or spell damage buff?

[ruddycray]

2 hours ago, waiyan said:

Cool. Any plan to add more powers like physical or spell damage buff?

 

Nothing right now, but I'm open to suggestions.

[Guest]

Seeking an opinion please.  I've never really looked at  prostitution type mods before but saw the recent update and decided to read through the mod pages.  It seems really amazing how this mod is incorporated in the game and the mod authors involvement is really impressive.  It appears this mod can be incorporated into normal gameplay.  I still do enjoy playing the regular game as long as Serana can be with me.  Wondering what others opinions are about using this mod to augment a normal playthrough rather be the focus of gameplay.  I currently use Public Whore and realize that mod will have to be removed to truly blend this mod into my game.  Also please share if SLEN is recommended.  I removed it recently.  PW and Sexy Adventures are really the only degrading type SL mod I use excepting my defeat mod and really like the sound of "TAP".   (love the abbreviation the author uses for this mod.  Like a client tapping me on my shoulder for business - shy)  Sorry for the questions.

 

EDIT:  Hormones today and I didn't see this. 

• The quests are meant to feel like they belong in the game's world, not like a separate sex game sitting on top of Skyrim.

 

Would still appreciate any suggestions.  T

Edited August 5, 2024 by TFor2

[Herowynne]

On 8/5/2024 at 8:27 AM, TFor2 said:

I currently use Public Whore and realize that mod will have to be removed to truly blend this mod into my game. 

 

I use both mods in my game, and they work together okay in my opinion.

 

The only real incompatibility is addressed by turning off TAP's Enable Public Sex Crime option in its MCM, because that doesn't really make sense while being the Public Whore.

[Jack005]

Can you add a special job to be one of Benjen naked girls, like following around the city the black-briar mancion, Black-Briar Lodge, the thief guild, Black-Briar Meadery, the jail visiting his convicted cousin, maybe add one or another dialogue or task like entretain his cousin in jail or be his bodyguard from Riftem to Black-Briar Lodge, but something similar to be one of the Benjen naked girls, or made it a punishment for not pay on time

[BobLoblaw]

Hey all- just downloaded version 16. I enter Dibella's Temple in Markarth, but the attack that's supposed to happen doesn't initiate. It's also been a while since i played this, but I cant find Fjotra anywhere. When I use player.moveto, it warps me to the little well of water in the middle of Dibella's Temple. I think I've completed all the quests up to this point (the most recent completed quests in my journal are Sybils Homecoming, One Bad Apple and Who Sows Discord). I've tried uninstalling mods to see if one of them is preventing the script to start. Maybe I can setstage it? Can anyone provide the quest ID?

[killer905]

3 hours ago, BobLoblaw said:

Hey all- just downloaded version 16. I enter Dibella's Temple in Markarth, but the attack that's supposed to happen doesn't initiate. It's also been a while since i played this, but I cant find Fjotra anywhere. When I use player.moveto, it warps me to the little well of water in the middle of Dibella's Temple. I think I've completed all the quests up to this point (the most recent completed quests in my journal are Sybils Homecoming, One Bad Apple and Who Sows Discord). I've tried uninstalling mods to see if one of them is preventing the script to start. Maybe I can setstage it? Can anyone provide the quest ID?

make sure: 

• Starts the next time you return to the Temple of Dibella after completing The Sybil's Homecoming, as long as there is no ordination in progress.

[Guest]

17 hours ago, Herowynne said:

 

I use both mods in my game, and they work together okay in my opinion.

 

The only real incompatibility is addressed by turning off TAP's Enable Public Sex Crime option in its MCM, because that doesn't really make sense while being the Public Whore.

Sweet of you to respond.  Thank you.  I will try it now.  PW is a favorite for my silly immersion and not being able to act on desire in game no matter the location was going to be difficult at other times with that setting.    Thanks again.  

[calvin_0]

21 hours ago, Herowynne said:

 

I use both mods in my game, and they work together okay in my opinion.

 

The only real incompatibility is addressed by turning off TAP's Enable Public Sex Crime option in its MCM, because that doesn't really make sense while being the Public Whore.

 

turn off TAP sex crime and use Sexy Adventure Crime feature instead, you can set it if your PC is wearing a collar (which she will be as a public whore), she get exempt from all crime.

[ARTistness]

I've got an odd and slightly annoying bug - for whatever reason, any animation started through dialogue added by the ancient profession CANNOT be an oral animation.  I've looked at the tag filter thing, and oral just... isn't a tag in there?  Also, it seems like activating the checkboxes makes it so that that animation type is allowed, not disallowed.  I'm not sure if that's intentional or not.

Let me know if you've got a fix for me.

[BobLoblaw]

16 hours ago, killer905 said:

make sure: 

• Starts the next time you return to the Temple of Dibella after completing The Sybil's Homecoming, as long as there is no ordination in progress.

Errr as far as i can tell, theyre all just walking around? Nothing reassembling an ordination occurring. But I will try at different times of day and report back!

[ruddycray]

On 8/7/2024 at 4:52 AM, Jack005 said:

Can you add a special job to be one of Benjen naked girls, like following around the city the black-briar mancion, Black-Briar Lodge, the thief guild, Black-Briar Meadery, the jail visiting his convicted cousin, maybe add one or another dialogue or task like entretain his cousin in jail or be his bodyguard from Riftem to Black-Briar Lodge, but something similar to be one of the Benjen naked girls, or made it a punishment for not pay on time

 

I'd have to think about how to do something like that. As a short-term quest it could be all right with the right setup. But it's extremely difficult to make something like that fun if you're as constrained as his girls are.

 

I've tried a few mods where the player gets enslaved over the years, and they all become incredibly boring to me incredibly fast, because the gameplay becomes about just waiting around doing nothing until someone decides to fuck you.

[ruddycray]

9 hours ago, ARTistness said:

I've got an odd and slightly annoying bug - for whatever reason, any animation started through dialogue added by the ancient profession CANNOT be an oral animation.  I've looked at the tag filter thing, and oral just... isn't a tag in there?  Also, it seems like activating the checkboxes makes it so that that animation type is allowed, not disallowed.  I'm not sure if that's intentional or not.

Let me know if you've got a fix for me.

 

The animations tags in the TAP MCM are definitely for preventing those types of animations, not allowing them.

 

You can add new tags by editing the suppressable tags file. It's at Data/SKSE/Plugins/The Ancient Profession/suppressable tags.json. I didn't include Oral or Vaginal as options by default because I didn't expect all that many players to want to suppress them.

 

I don't think that you do, either. If you're referring to scenes started in brothels, I think those might actually be hard-coded to be vaginal scenes right now. I have it on my list to make the sex type selectable. I just haven't gotten around to it.

[ruddycray]

1 hour ago, BobLoblaw said:

Errr as far as i can tell, theyre all just walking around? Nothing reassembling an ordination occurring. But I will try at different times of day and report back!

 

Is Janilla still alive in your game? If so, then one of the first things that should happen on loading your game with release 16 is to start her ordination. The temple attack quest is TAPQTemple06B, and the conditions for starting it are:

 

• Player is entering the temple
• Stage 1700 of TAPQTemple06 has been done - you can check that in the console with GetStageDone TAPQTemple06 1700
• The quest TAPQTempleNewSister is not running - you can check that with sqv TAPQTempleNewSister

The quest also requires that Mother Hamal is still alive, although I think the upgrade script might force her to be if she has been killed in your game, because she is essential to the Temple of Dibella quest line.

[BobLoblaw]

1 hour ago, ruddycray said:

 

Is Janilla still alive in your game? If so, then one of the first things that should happen on loading your game with release 16 is to start her ordination. The temple attack quest is TAPQTemple06B, and the conditions for starting it are:

 

• Player is entering the temple
• Stage 1700 of TAPQTemple06 has been done - you can check that in the console with GetStageDone TAPQTemple06 1700
• The quest TAPQTempleNewSister is not running - you can check that with sqv TAPQTempleNewSister

The quest also requires that Mother Hamal is still alive, although I think the upgrade script might force her to be if she has been killed in your game, because she is essential to the Temple of Dibella quest line.

Thanks for the reply!! So i don't think Janilla is alive (i think i remember her death and the completed quest log says "Janilla's grief was just too great") but Mother Hamal is alive.

 

And:

1. im in the temple

2. I wrote GetStageDone TAPQTemple06 1700 and GetStageDone >> 1.00 was the result.

3. I typed sqv TAPQTempleNewSister and a bunch of info came up, but at the end, it said:

--- Quest State --------

Enabled? No

State: Stopped

Current stage: 0

Priority: 80

 

Any thoughts on what im missing? Thanks so much.

[ruddycray]

3 minutes ago, BobLoblaw said:

Thanks for the reply!! So i don't think Janilla is alive (i think i remember her death and the completed quest log says "Janilla's grief was just too great") but Mother Hamal is alive.

 

And:

1. im in the temple

2. I wrote GetStageDone TAPQTemple06 1700 and GetStageDone >> 1.00 was the result.

3. I typed sqv TAPQTempleNewSister and a bunch of info came up, but at the end, it said:

--- Quest State --------

Enabled? No

State: Stopped

Current stage: 0

Priority: 80

 

Any thoughts on what im missing? Thanks so much.

 

What does the quest state say if you do sqv TAPQTemple06B?

 

If it says stopped, what happens if you do startquest TAPQTemple06B and then sqv TAPQTemple06B?

 

If the quest doesn't start with the console then there is something preventing the quest from getting something it needs, and we'd need to figure out what that is.

[BobLoblaw]

6 minutes ago, ruddycray said:

 

What does the quest state say if you do sqv TAPQTemple06B?

 

If it says stopped, what happens if you do startquest TAPQTemple06B and then sqv TAPQTemple06B?

 

If the quest doesn't start with the console then there is something preventing the quest from getting something it needs, and we'd need to figure out what that is.

I typed sqv TAPQTemple06B and got:

 

--- Quest State --------

Enabled? No

State: Stopped

Current stage: 0

Priority: 85

 

and then i typed startquest TAPQTemple06B in the temple and nothing happened, so then i typed sqv TAPQTemple06B  again and got the same result.

 

I've also tried uninstalling a couple dozen mods, loading, seeing if it changes, uninstalling a couple dozen others, loading again etc, to no avail.

Any ideas as to where else i can troubleshoot?