The Ancient Profession 2024-06-24

[Highborn]

Nice, thanks for the update!

[killer905]

After the attack I was supposed to talk to Fjotra, but she was for some reason in a holding cell with other NPCs. So teleport her to me but after inform her about attack nothing more happen....

I wanted to check the Content guide for The Ancient Profession, but it hasn't been updated.

 

Also the girl from Order of Lilly are not in Inn Markarth.

Edited June 24, 2024 by killer905

[ruddycray]

6 minutes ago, killer905 said:

After the attack I was supposed to talk to Fjotra, but she was for some reason in a holding cell with other NPCs. So teleport her to me but after inform her about attack nothing more happen....

I wanted to check the Content guide for The Ancient Profession, but it hasn't been updated.

 

Also the girl from Order of Lilly are not in Inn Markarth.

 

Qawi returns during the quest. Corvus should be waiting in the marketplace to talk to you after you talk to Fjotra.

 

I may have to rethink the whole holding cell thing in a future release because I've seen NPCs teleport back there before, and once they are there they have no way to get back out again except with a script I made to teleport them back to a safe location.

 

I will get the content guide updated soon.

[killer905]

Just now, ruddycray said:

 

Qawi returns during the quest. Corvus should be waiting in the marketplace to talk to you after you talk to Fjotra.

 

I may have to rethink the whole holding cell thing in a future release because I've seen NPCs teleport back there before, and once they are there they have no way to get back out again except with a script I made to teleport them back to a safe location.

 

I will get the content guide updated soon.

I checked with CK why. I think the problem was that the first time with Fjotra I talked in Markarth instead of the inn :3

[miscys]

Grats on the release! Would it be rude to ask what your plans for 17 are?

[killer905]

Recruitment to the Order of the Lily:

Dialogue with followers works well. I did a version with persuasion and sex brought to Qawi a famle and then a male follower but no dialogue for Qawi.

 

 

Edit://

 

After confirming Fjotra's visit, the goal of 'Tell Corvus that Fjotra accepts his invitation' remains unchecked.

 

 

Edited June 24, 2024 by killer905

[Don1206]

For some reason Im getting a virus warning from windows defender, wont let me download

 

[killer905]

34 minutes ago, Don1206 said:

For some reason Im getting a virus warning from windows defender, wont let me download

 

What antyvirus you have?

 

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/48f39d958c4888c49eb49ed88df315cf9932fb8665fd4e8d120bf1354105a3d2?nocache=1

zip is clear

 

 

[Don1206]

Just Microsoft Defender, hasnt happen with previous versions... odd

[killer905]

11 minutes ago, Don1206 said:

Just Microsoft Defender, hasnt happen with previous versions... odd

Huh, strange my windows defender nothing say... 🤔

[Casandor26]

39 minutes ago, Don1206 said:

Just Microsoft Defender, hasnt happen with previous versions... odd

 

28 minutes ago, killer905 said:

Huh, strange my windows defender nothing say

My window defender warns me as well. Win 11 pro, up to dated 

[killer905]

9 minutes ago, Casandor26 said:

 

My window defender warns me as well. Win 11 pro, up to dated 

I can say "false positive" or just check file in https://www.virustotal.com/gui/home/upload

[Don1206]

Turned defender off, downloaded it, Checked it, ok, turned defender back on. Works fine.

Odd

[ruddycray]

5 hours ago, Don1206 said:

Turned defender off, downloaded it, Checked it, ok, turned defender back on. Works fine.

Odd

 

Very strange. There are no executable files in the 7-zip file.

[ruddycray]

8 hours ago, killer905 said:

Recruitment to the Order of the Lily:

Dialogue with followers works well. I did a version with persuasion and sex brought to Qawi a famle and then a male follower but no dialogue for Qawi.

 

 

Edit://

 

After confirming Fjotra's visit, the goal of 'Tell Corvus that Fjotra accepts his invitation' remains unchecked.

 

 

 

I'll double check those, although I'm certain I tested with both male and female followers so the more info you can give me the better.

[ruddycray]

9 hours ago, miscys said:

Grats on the release! Would it be rude to ask what your plans for 17 are?

 

Never rude to be curious. I don't have specific plans set yet. Very likely I'll be making some adjustments to succubus stage progression so that it isn't so demanding.

 

Beyond that, it will be whatever I feel inspired to work on at the time.

[killer905]

39 minutes ago, ruddycray said:

 

I'll double check those, although I'm certain I tested with both male and female followers so the more info you can give me the better.

What information do you need exactly? I was looking in CK and there was a Blades faction, but none of these potential people who can join the blades bringing to Qawi and she has no dialogue.

 

I can record video but this can give nothing for you...

 

I use Nether's Follower Framework but for others mods work nice.

Edited June 24, 2024 by killer905

[ruddycray]

15 minutes ago, killer905 said:

What information do you need exactly? I was looking in CK and there was a Blades faction, but none of these potential people who can join the blades bringing to Qawi and she has no dialogue.

 

I can record video but this can give nothing for you...

 

I use Nether's Follower Framework but for others mods work nice.

 

The quest checks that your follower is not in the Blades faction so you don't recruit someone to both factions.

 

The quest does rely on the vanilla follower quest and its follower alias, just like the Blades quest does, and in vanilla there's only one follower alias.

 

Follower frameworks might have patched for that specifically for the Blades.

Edited June 24, 2024 by ruddycray

[killer905]

46 minutes ago, ruddycray said:

 

The quest checks that your follower is not in the Blades faction so you don't recruit someone to both factions.

 

The quest does rely on the vanilla follower quest and its follower alias, just like the Blades quest does, and in vanilla there's only one follower alias.

 

Follower frameworks might have patched for that specifically for the Blades.

 

Nether's Follower Framework page say

Not compatible with:

- Any mods that directly affect the recruitment of Blades.

 

So i check it and yeah this block dialogue for Qawi. After unistall freamwork she have dialogue.

 

I also found another problem. If a Follower lives in my house (not housecarl or wife/husband) set by the mod "My Home is Your Home" then the Follower who has joined the order goes back to my home seted by MHiYH, but only need is to set the quest priority for TAP to 99 or higher for them to stay at the inn.

 

I have hope this help you to solve this problem.

 

Edited June 25, 2024 by killer905

[ruddycray]

2 hours ago, killer905 said:

 

Nether's Follower Framework page say

Not compatible with:

- Any mods that directly affect the recruitment of Blades.

 

So i check it and yeah this block dialogue for Qawi. After unistall freamwork she have dialogue.

 

I also found another problem. If a Follower lives in my house (not housecarl or wife/husband) set by the mod "My Home is Your Home" then the Follower who has joined the order goes back to my home seted by MHiYH, but only need is to set the quest priority for TAP to 99 or higher for them to stay at the inn.

 

I have hope this help you to solve this problem.

 

 

To be clear, I didn't modify Blades recruitment in any way. I check that your follower hasn't been recruited by the Blades before allowing them to be recruited by Qawi. I did not do anything to prevent recruiting a follower into the Blades after recruitment into the Order of the Lily - the quest will just warn you that you shouldn't do that if it detects that you did.

 

Also, what I'm saying is that the way my quest and the vanilla Blades quest know who you're trying to recruit is by looking at the Follower alias on the vanilla follower quest. There's only one of these.

 

If you have a follower framework that allows multiple followers and also allows them to be recruited for the Blades, then they must have modified the Blades recruitment to be aware of the framework. A similar modification would be required for TAP for the Order of the Lily recruitment, which would be a compatibility patch for the follower framework. I don't really have any plans to do that myself, but I'd be happy to answer questions for anyone who is interested in doing it and needs info.

 

I can bump the priority of the recruitment quest higher, but I don't think the game allows anything higher than 100.

Edited June 25, 2024 by ruddycray

[killer905]

14 minutes ago, ruddycray said:

 

To be clear, I didn't modify Blades recruitment in any way. I check that your follower hasn't been recruited by the Blades before allowing them to be recruited by Qawi. I did not do anything to prevent recruiting a follower into the Blades after recruitment into the Order of the Lily - the quest will just warn you that you shouldn't do that if it detects that you did.

 

Also, what I'm saying is that the way my quest and the vanilla Blades quest know who you're trying to recruit is by looking at the Follower alias on the vanilla follower quest. There's only one of these.

 

If you have a follower framework that allows multiple followers and also allows them to be recruited for the Blades, then they must have modified the Blades recruitment to be aware of the framework. A similar modification would be required for TAP for the Order of the Lily recruitment, which would be a compatibility patch for the follower framework. I don't really have any plans to do that myself, but I'd be happy to answer questions for anyone who is interested in doing it and needs info.

 

I can bump the priority of the recruitment quest higher, but I don't think the game allows anything higher than 100.

Unfortunately, but as you can see with freamwork turned off I had a dialogue also maybe just "checking" messes things up? And also to be clear none of these followers are part of Blades.

 

Or just give a note that followers living in a PC home used by 'My Home is Your Home' are not supported or something.

[ruddycray]

The content guide has been updated for release 16.

 

I marked all the new stuff with RELEASE 16.

Edited June 25, 2024 by ruddycray

[ruddycray]

1 hour ago, killer905 said:

Unfortunately, but as you can see with freamwork turned off I had a dialogue also maybe just "checking" messes things up? And also to be clear none of these followers are part of Blades.

 

Or just give a note that followers living in a PC home used by 'My Home is Your Home' are not supported or something.

 

I don't doubt that the recruitment breaks with the framework on. I expect that TAP does not break anything about the framework or its ability to recruit followers into the Blades. What I would expect is that the framework interferes with the ability to recruit followers into the Order of the Lily by changing the way that followers work from the way they work in vanilla Skyrim.

 

My guess is that the framework's changes are keeping TAP from detecting that you even have a follower.

 

And if that expectation is correct it means that there may need to be compatibility patches if you want to recruit followers from follower frameworks into the Order of the Lily.

Edited June 25, 2024 by ruddycray

[ddddntp]

Great mod! Just one question, I have made the 3000 gold with Dibella's Garden and I don't see the quest  One Bad Apple starting. any way to start it even via console commands?

[ruddycray]

18 minutes ago, ddddntp said:

Great mod! Just one question, I have made the 3000 gold with Dibella's Garden and I don't see the quest  One Bad Apple starting. any way to start it even via console commands?

 

The quest ID is TAPQDG01 if you want to try. If you can't start it even with the console command then there's something else wrong.