The Ancient Profession 2024-06-24

[Dorabella]

8 minutes ago, LordofLurking said:

leaving the BP without servicing causing the quest to fail; and using console to Stage 50

I assume we are referring to the party in Solitude's Blue palace.

Having also had the quest stall, I simply saved the game with each advancement . By reloading the game, the stall resolved itself

[ruddycray]

3 hours ago, Dorabella said:

I assume we are referring to the party in Solitude's Blue palace.

Having also had the quest stall, I simply saved the game with each advancement . By reloading the game, the stall resolved itself

 

That sounds a lot like script lag, which is something I haven't experienced in years, since I stopped using heavy mods. It's not likely to be coming from TAP itself, though. Even though the mod has a great many scripts, the scripts are all pretty light.

[LordofLurking]

Yup, seems logical. Thanks!

[Dorabella]

19 hours ago, ruddycray said:

It's not likely to be coming from TAP itself, though.

It seems to be the usual Skyrim bug. When it occurs , I get around it by saving and reloading 😃

 

 

[Deadly Kitten]

On 1/9/2024 at 7:06 AM, ruddycray said:

 

I never completely rule out that there could be something I need to fix, because sometimes new information will come to me that makes something I couldn't reproduce suddenly be reproducible for me. Sometimes that's someone identifying  the other mod that causes a problem when used together with TAP and sometimes it's the exact sequence of how someone did something.

 

All I can tell you right now is that neither of those things has ever happened for me, and I haven't gotten other reports of them. If you do by chance learn anything more that would be of use to me then please let me know.

Hey, so old post but new info because i'm tired of encountering the same issue (and i'm not ready to start a new save until i've exhausted certain things in the current one. And yes, i mean "new game" because i'm still used to thinking of "new save files" instead of having thousands of saves).

speaking of saves, i wanted to reload back a few months of incremental mod testing and find something stable, but i deleted some 1.5 GB worth of saves from years of playing this game and obsessively saving into a new slot because having only one quick save slot is stupid in a game where the cause of crashing might have been a few hours back. (Though this is less of a problem with Skyrim SE, i've lost hours of progress in LE because saves couldn't be loaded and i wasn't sure when the issue started.
I just can't this time because again, i deleted all saves from before this year began. Which if you check the time stamp, means that's after the issue began.

New game, new character. Use sexlab to get going, and carriage to get to falkreath. startquest TAPQDG02  forces the quest to start, I get force greeted by a courier with curiously vibrant hair indicating it's probably not vanilla but i'm not sure, gives me a note from a mutual friend i've never met, told to whore in the inn. Go to said in, need a license, go to Jarl's gopher, get license, whore myself out, crashes the instant sex starts the second time. Just like it happens in my game. 

Curious. NPC is named Sintaba   you said, and i know that some NPC mods don't play friendly with "Yiffy Age of Skyrim" 

Because the above mod is kinda aggressive and changes a lot of records. Most of the time you can just make sure Yiffy Age runs after whatever else and all else is fine. Worst case, you might get a weird headless critter with floating eyes and teeth.

removing Yiffy Age is too invasive with all the patching i've had to do to make things all nice and tidy.

But, using "Help Sinbata" to find a copy of that npc and placing at me via console instantly causes game to freeze. Music plays, no CTD, just unresponsive forever.

So we know the problem.

Yiffy age has instructions to run a patch on the Nexus-hosted version of the mod https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/articles/52851

 

Running the patch will merge any compatible changes on NPCs to a furry-friendly version, and generate new versions for things that don't make sense.

Run patcher, load save from before whoring out in the inn, second time whoring Sinbata is present as expected. and no crashes.

 

Loaded a prior save that was affected, and game still crashes. Ew.


May do the ol' rest in a empty room for a few days.

 

 

--- EDIT after some more tired testing.
Rested in the nice coc ctest cell for 24 hours then went to drink some coffee irl. Afterwards, COC whiterunbannered mare, walk to breezehome, save, quit game, reload save, attempt quest, doesn't crash.



So if you do find others who have a strangely specific crash around certain cells or NPCs touched by this mod, maybe find out if they also have strangely specific npc or race overhauls?

Edited August 22, 2024 by Deadly Kitten

[ruddycray]

8 hours ago, Deadly Kitten said:

Hey, so old post but new info because i'm tired of encountering the same issue (and i'm not ready to start a new save until i've exhausted certain things in the current one. And yes, i mean "new game" because i'm still used to thinking of "new save files" instead of having thousands of saves).

speaking of saves, i wanted to reload back a few months of incremental mod testing and find something stable, but i deleted some 1.5 GB worth of saves from years of playing this game and obsessively saving into a new slot because having only one quick save slot is stupid in a game where the cause of crashing might have been a few hours back. (Though this is less of a problem with Skyrim SE, i've lost hours of progress in LE because saves couldn't be loaded and i wasn't sure when the issue started.
I just can't this time because again, i deleted all saves from before this year began. Which if you check the time stamp, means that's after the issue began.

New game, new character. Use sexlab to get going, and carriage to get to falkreath. startquest TAPQDG02  forces the quest to start, I get force greeted by a courier with curiously vibrant hair indicating it's probably not vanilla but i'm not sure, gives me a note from a mutual friend i've never met, told to whore in the inn. Go to said in, need a license, go to Jarl's gopher, get license, whore myself out, crashes the instant sex starts the second time. Just like it happens in my game. 

Curious. NPC is named Sintaba   you said, and i know that some NPC mods don't play friendly with "Yiffy Age of Skyrim" 

Because the above mod is kinda aggressive and changes a lot of records. Most of the time you can just make sure Yiffy Age runs after whatever else and all else is fine. Worst case, you might get a weird headless critter with floating eyes and teeth.

removing Yiffy Age is too invasive with all the patching i've had to do to make things all nice and tidy.

But, using "Help Sinbata" to find a copy of that npc and placing at me via console instantly causes game to freeze. Music plays, no CTD, just unresponsive forever.

So we know the problem.

Yiffy age has instructions to run a patch on the Nexus-hosted version of the mod https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/articles/52851

 

Running the patch will merge any compatible changes on NPCs to a furry-friendly version, and generate new versions for things that don't make sense.

Run patcher, load save from before whoring out in the inn, second time whoring Sinbata is present as expected. and no crashes.

 

Loaded a prior save that was affected, and game still crashes. Ew.


May do the ol' rest in a empty room for a few days.

 

 

--- EDIT after some more tired testing.
Rested in the nice coc ctest cell for 24 hours then went to drink some coffee irl. Afterwards, COC whiterunbannered mare, walk to breezehome, save, quit game, reload save, attempt quest, doesn't crash.



So if you do find others who have a strangely specific crash around certain cells or NPCs touched by this mod, maybe find out if they also have strangely specific npc or race overhauls?

 

Good to know. Honestly, my first suspicion when someone has a weird crash that I don't get and few to no other players have reported is that there's another mod involved. That's basically always the problem.

 

It doesn't always mean I can't do anything to fix it, but a lot of times it does. Even if not, I still need to know what other mods might be causing something before I can determine whether there's anything I can do about it.

 

I'm glad you figured out your problem.

[ASHUTOSH811]

Player is not absorbing any souls even after using absorption spell ang going through sex process. Just what to do?

[ruddycray]

4 hours ago, ASHUTOSH811 said:

Player is not absorbing any souls even after using absorption spell ang going through sex process. Just what to do?

 

I might need to see your Papyrus log.

[ASHUTOSH811]

1 hour ago, ruddycray said:

 

I might need to see your Papyrus log.

Ah.. I found the problem. Using this mod with sexlab to ostim mod doesn't work. 

Anyways I can't get to find the exact location of intius donors in quest 'where spirits have sex'. Any idea of his exact location. Cause asking in rorikstead not marking it on the map

1 hour ago, ruddycray said:

 

I might need to see your Papyrus log.

 

[ruddycray]

3 hours ago, ASHUTOSH811 said:

Ah.. I found the problem. Using this mod with sexlab to ostim mod doesn't work. 

Anyways I can't get to find the exact location of intius donors in quest 'where spirits have sex'. Any idea of his exact location. Cause asking in rorikstead not marking it on the map

 

 

There's a post on page 2 of this thread with a screenshot, I think.

 

Edit: here it is 

 

Edited August 23, 2024 by ruddycray

[ASHUTOSH811]

38 minutes ago, ruddycray said:

 

There's a post on page 2 of this thread with a screenshot, I think.

 

Edit: here it is 

 

Yo thanks man. Any idea on making the mod compatible with ostim by removing creature quests cause ostim doesn't support creatures, but is real easy to handle, the standalone version?

[ruddycray]

23 minutes ago, ASHUTOSH811 said:

Yo thanks man. Any idea on making the mod compatible with ostim by removing creature quests cause ostim doesn't support creatures, but is real easy to handle, the standalone version?

 

The creature stuff in TAP is already completely optional except for the stuff involving draugr. Removing that would require a major rewrite of a quest line, which I'm not really inclined to do.

 

The issue I understand with the SexLab-to-OStim converter has more to do with the fact that TAP is very reliant on knowing when events from SexLab happen. That wouldn't be easy to overcome just by removing a few scenes here and there. That would require a major overhaul of how TAP works. The only realistic solutions there would either be for someone to create something that converts information from OStim to the form that SexLab provides or for someone to redo all the scripts in TAP to work in terms of OStim.

 

As much as I would like to support OStim, that isn't going to be me.

[Deadly Kitten]

On 8/22/2024 at 6:31 AM, ruddycray said:

 

Good to know. Honestly, my first suspicion when someone has a weird crash that I don't get and few to no other players have reported is that there's another mod involved. That's basically always the problem.

 

It doesn't always mean I can't do anything to fix it, but a lot of times it does. Even if not, I still need to know what other mods might be causing something before I can determine whether there's anything I can do about it.

 

I'm glad you figured out your problem.

still can't do the whole riften brothel quests because i still freeze when the cell loads, so something in there is still unhappy. I'll have to figure out something i guess.

[ThatOtherGuy69]

I there an updated voice pack for this mod? Last one was 2022.

[ruddycray]

2 hours ago, RedNick54 said:

I there an updated voice pack for this mod? Last one was 2022.

 

Someone did voices for release 15 somewhere in this thread. I don't think they've made it an actual mod yet, and I don't know if they plan to.

 

I don't have a link unfortunately.

[kamithemoon]

On 8/24/2024 at 9:37 AM, ruddycray said:

 

Someone did voices for release 15 somewhere in this thread. I don't think they've made it an actual mod yet, and I don't know if they plan to.

 

I don't have a link unfortunately.

Here's a link to release 16 voices.

Currently missing the custom voice types for the 2 ghosts, Zoe, and Broluk.  Zoe, I understand, but why doesn't Broluck have the MaleOrc voice?

 

Update:

It'll bug me if I don't, so here's a meow from Zoe as well.

Update: 25AUG2024
Mega link updated to include Aia Dinora, Broluk, and Zoe.  Ghost effects added to Aia.  Alo includes missing Freelance lines.  Currently only missing the 2 daedric entities that do not have a voice model.

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/36332-taprelease16voices/

 

Edited September 10, 2024 by kamithemoon

[ThatOtherGuy69]

2 hours ago, kamithemoon said:

Here's a link to release 16 voices.

Currently missing the custom voice types for the 2 ghosts, Zoe, and Broluk.  Zoe, I understand, but why doesn't Broluck have the MaleOrc voice?
 

https://mega.nz/file/LXh1XZaQ#DO5A7JXT9iso3e4P7JxQ24siRNG6wvFZ4Lqhf64kEFM

 

Update:

It'll bug me if I don't, so here's a meow from Zoe as well.

Tap16Zoe.7z 29.16 kB · 0 downloads

Absolute Legend, thx : )

[ThatOtherGuy69]

16 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

Someone did voices for release 15 somewhere in this thread. I don't think they've made it an actual mod yet, and I don't know if they plan to.

 

I don't have a link unfortunately.

No worries,kamithemoon posted the link, thanks for this great mod : )

[ruddycray]

4 hours ago, kamithemoon said:

Here's a link to release 16 voices.

Currently missing the custom voice types for the 2 ghosts, Zoe, and Broluk.  Zoe, I understand, but why doesn't Broluck have the MaleOrc voice?
 

https://mega.nz/file/LXh1XZaQ#DO5A7JXT9iso3e4P7JxQ24siRNG6wvFZ4Lqhf64kEFM

 

Update:

It'll bug me if I don't, so here's a meow from Zoe as well.

Tap16Zoe.7z 29.16 kB · 1 download

 

Because if he does you can ask him to make you Blood Kin, which will be completely inappropriate for the character when he is introduced.

[kamithemoon]

6 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

Because if he does you can ask him to make you Blood Kin, which will be completely inappropriate for the character when he is introduced.

Understood.  I wasn't sure if it was because you wanted him to be a unique orc with a custom voice or not.  Now that I'm aware, I can make his lines.

Updated the mega link to include Aia Dinora, Broluk, and Zoe's lines.  Ghost effects added to Aia.  Also added the missing Freeform lines.  Currently missing lines for the 2 daedric entities that do not have a voice model.

 

 

Edited August 25, 2024 by kamithemoon

[N3k0n3]

I have a female PC that is a futa and when i buy a prostitute at the brothel it gives me only lesbian animations, is there a way for the mod to assign me as a male actor so i can see the m/f animations?

[ruddycray]

37 minutes ago, N3k0n3 said:

I have a female PC that is a futa and when i buy a prostitute at the brothel it gives me only lesbian animations, is there a way for the mod to assign me as a male actor so i can see the m/f animations?

 

It might be something I need to fix. There's no way I know of to check what SexLab thinks the actor's gender is for dialogue, so I can only go by what the game says. It's possible the script for that dialogue is not checking the SexLab gender, either.

[N3k0n3]

1 hour ago, ruddycray said:

 

It might be something I need to fix. There's no way I know of to check what SexLab thinks the actor's gender is for dialogue, so I can only go by what the game says. It's possible the script for that dialogue is not checking the SexLab gender, either.

Yea, my sexlab gender is male and that the dialogue counts me as female is actualy prefered (except if that is what decideds the scenes) but the actual sex animation is always lesbian and not m/f penetrative sex or bjs and stuff.

[ruddycray]

3 hours ago, N3k0n3 said:

Yea, my sexlab gender is male and that the dialogue counts me as female is actualy prefered (except if that is what decideds the scenes) but the actual sex animation is always lesbian and not m/f penetrative sex or bjs and stuff.

 

Yeah, that situation is hard-coded to use lesbian animations. I'll add it to my list to fix that.

[nilead]

On 6/5/2024 at 3:10 AM, ruddycray said:

When you enter the Temple of Dibella, TAPQFjotraGoAway should advance to stage 100 and start a scene, which should start with a flash of white light.

 Got the same bug, with purple glow but no fjotra in sight. 

There are several NPCs present that are from other mods (3DNPC, Babodialogue, ToH and YPS all place a character into the temple main chamber, its rather crowded). No Sisterhood installed, but i do run Skyrim Teens, overwritten by Fjotra replacer for said sisterhood, but its purely visual. My bet would be on something going wrong at rescue mission. I believe ive hit Fjotra accidently during briarheart fight. She followed me to temple NP, but afterwards she ran off immediately leaving the temple. Not finding her inside i used prid+moveto.player, but it just makes her scream along the lines of "Dont hurt me" and run away from the temple. 

 Settings stage 200 allows to progress to later quest, and im guessing original fjotra is going to get replaced with adult one from your mod, so i guess its a relatively harmless and easy issue to fix. I run almost 900 plugins load order, so issue is almost certainly comes from something i run that keep Fjotra stuck in fleeing from the player state. And even then, it would probably never materialize had i not clipped her with a cleave in the first place.