Reginald_001 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 Did you commit all memory archives in the found holotapes? Worst comes to worst, reload from an earlier point in the quest. 1 Link to comment
Reginald_001 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 Also, check the walkthroughs and see if you didn't accidentally missed a step (it happens a lot). 1 Link to comment
astor Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 I'm pretty sure i've read every note, holotape and terminal up to this point, but i'll happily backtrack and look again. EDIT: Yup, i did everything in that walk-through with the difference being i picked up everything that wasn't nailed down. Still ctd. On a whim, i used the console and typed: getstage _ivy's_mind which said i was on stage 70, so i typed: setstage _ivys_mind 80. As soon as i hit enter on that, instant ctd. So, after reloading at that terminal (which is now my nemesis ), i once again used the console and tried to spawn the npc that spawned in the video and again, ctd. EDIT 2: I also extracted her archives into loose files to see if there was anything overwriting her files and the only thing was a file in the RealSex mod. I disabled that mod, and had the same ctd. EDIT 3: Doing things the loooong way of disabling my mods and enabling them a few at a time until i can pin down the conflict. Was really hoping to avoid doing this though. Link to comment
Reginald_001 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 5 hours ago, astor said: I'm pretty sure i've read every note, holotape and terminal up to this point, but i'll happily backtrack and look again. EDIT: Yup, i did everything in that walk-through with the difference being i picked up everything that wasn't nailed down. Still ctd. On a whim, i used the console and typed: getstage _ivy's_mind which said i was on stage 70, so i typed: setstage _ivys_mind 80. As soon as i hit enter on that, instant ctd. So, after reloading at that terminal (which is now my nemesis ), i once again used the console and tried to spawn the npc that spawned in the video and again, ctd. EDIT 2: I also extracted her archives into loose files to see if there was anything overwriting her files and the only thing was a file in the RealSex mod. I disabled that mod, and had the same ctd. EDIT 3: Doing things the loooong way of disabling my mods and enabling them a few at a time until i can pin down the conflict. Was really hoping to avoid doing this though. The AI uses a basic NPC body and an institute suit. One of those white ones, perhaps that helps. 1 Link to comment
astor Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Okay... I think i found the problem. Your post about the institute suit was correct. Fusion Girl's vanilla replacer appears to disagree with this mod. In MO2, i set all the institute meshes and bodyslide files to "hidden" and can now use the terminal. I feel that this is more of a band-aid on a broken leg type of fix, but after 7+ hours of trial and error, i can -for now- proceed with Ivy's quest. Hopefully, i won't encounter anymore issues. 1 Link to comment
Reginald_001 Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 6 hours ago, astor said: Okay... I think i found the problem. Your post about the institute suit was correct. Fusion Girl's vanilla replacer appears to disagree with this mod. In MO2, i set all the institute meshes and bodyslide files to "hidden" and can now use the terminal. I feel that this is more of a band-aid on a broken leg type of fix, but after 7+ hours of trial and error, i can -for now- proceed with Ivy's quest. Hopefully, i won't encounter anymore issues. Uhmm.. so a mod conflict then, that had to do with clothing replacements.. what a surprise. Link to comment
astor Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Reginald_001 said: Uhmm.. so a mod conflict then, that had to do with clothing replacements.. what a surprise. That's actually a first for me. I've been playing around with mods since Oblivion was new and have never encountered this before. Link to comment
steve6419 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, astor said: That's actually a first for me. I've been playing around with mods since Oblivion was new and have never encountered this before. Okay i have been watching a lot of posts here and i never really say any thing but now i am why is it that it seems a lot of users of ivy seem to blame her mod for things that they cause then find out it is the mod users own fault i have been using ivy since she first came out and even i have had some problems with other mods i was using that caused the problems but work it out in time a lot of you blame the ivy mod think your selves lucky Reginald spends so much time working on ivy and she is free for us to use and stop sounding so ungrateful for all his hard work and this is not directed at anyone in any way but like i said show some gratitude to him for all the hours he has spent on her and stop sounding like you do and Thank You Reginald for ivy and you hard work on her and Astor this is in no way pointed at you just to be clear 1 Link to comment
astor Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, steve6419 said: Okay i have been watching a lot of posts here and i never really say any thing but now i am why is it that it seems a lot of users of ivy seem to blame her mod for things that they cause then find out it is the mod users own fault i have been using ivy since she first came out and even i have had some problems with other mods i was using that caused the problems but work it out in time a lot of you blame the ivy mod think your selves lucky Reginald spends so much time working on ivy and she is free for us to use and stop sounding so ungrateful for all his hard work and this is not directed at anyone in any way but like i said show some gratitude to him for all the hours he has spent on her and stop sounding like you do and Thank You Reginald for ivy and you hard work on her and Astor this is in no way pointed at you just to be clear Considering i spent 7+ hours trying to troubleshoot my problem instead of just shrugging and uninstalling the mod (as i have with so many other mods over the years) should in some small way indicate the value this mod has for me. 1 Link to comment
Reginald_001 Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 It's all good guys, spread the love. It's easy to find fault in each other and takes practice to notice the good. Astor was helped now and can continue enjoying the game, which is the end goal for all of us right? ❤️ 5 Link to comment
Tron91 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 All is well, that ends well!!! Link to comment
MainMansrevenge Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Yes, I have the latest but as for limits? I honestly don't know. Not sure what my limit is. Link to comment
JMccovery Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Starting to think Ivy cheats at blackjack... She somehow drew two Queen of Hearts. I wonder if one of the personalities are trying to hustle me. I'm on to you, Deb. 2 Link to comment
Bastardiosa Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 I hate to be that guy but waht are the chances of an XDI patch when development of Ivy is close to being finished ? Or does anyone know of any tutorials where I can learn and try and make one myself ? Link to comment
Fiona159 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 26 minutes ago, Bastardiosa said: I hate to be that guy but waht are the chances of an XDI patch when development of Ivy is close to being finished ? Or does anyone know of any tutorials where I can learn and try and make one myself ? And why don't you ask the author of XDI? Link to comment
Bastardiosa Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Fiona159 said: And why don't you ask the author of XDI? inactive modder. Link to comment
Reginald_001 Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 50 minutes ago, Bastardiosa said: inactive modder. And there's the issue. 'We' (modders) don't have access to the source code. I wish I could, but it's just not possible at the moment. 1 Link to comment
Bastardiosa Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Reginald_001 said: And there's the issue. 'We' (modders) don't have access to the source code. I wish I could, but it's just not possible at the moment. its all good man shes still the best companion available so totally worth it. 1 Link to comment
Tron91 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Reginald_001 said: And there's the issue. 'We' (modders) don't have access to the source code. I wish I could, but it's just not possible at the moment. Think XDI's source code is available at https://github.com/reg2k/xdi Also found a modified version, don't know what it does specifically. xdi-1.3.6-wmk.zip 1 Link to comment
Reginald_001 Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 Well that's news to me! Hopefully a modder that can program can pick it up and fix shared dialogue. 1 Link to comment
Reginald_001 Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 From a Discord discussion: QUESTION: The memories that get deleted, when you come across certain triggers, do they ever get recovered or are they lost for good? ANSWER: Good question. Honestly? I don't really know. Ivy is so complex, and the interactions between AI and Deborah's schizophrenic brain are so intricate, that there will always be open ends to her psychology unless I'd program her entire life cycle. Spoiler She explains to you that Into The Deep was only the beginning of her journey. "It will take me years to wade through it all", she says after her AI blocker was disabled. But that AI blocker only had one function: Wipe and reset Ivy's complete personality to the point where she had just entered the root cellar. (Read it again, it's a distinct and important detail). So now that her personality will not be reset, she can finally start 'growing' as a person.. but other AI functions are still very much in tact. Teleport, Memory Archives, the entire interface of Deb's brain with the body. All of that must remain in tact, otherwise her biological components would die. Deborah cannot live without the AI and the AI cannot live without Deborah. Together they are Ivy. This means that certain traumatic events might still be blocked, certain memories still unavailable to her. For instance, the AI carefully removes all distinct memories of Kellog's voice and the way he looked from Ivy's mind, so that when she encounters him in Fort Hagen she doesn't realize that he's her father at all. To her he's just another annoying guy on an intercom. She knows she had a father, but cannot link Kellog's face and voice to the vague memories and knowledge that she does have of him. Even when the player finds notes and lore about Kellog's past, Ivy reads it, but the AI filters out anything that could lead to a complete (systemic) emotional failure (e.g. the brain dies from stress/bad chemicals released due to stress). The player managed to do several things with entering Ivy's mind: - Get the A.I. to stop resetting her entire personality once a traumatic experience happens. - Get the A.I. to back off and be less aggressive in it's approach to managing Deb's mind. - Get a direct line of communication with some of Deborah's alternate personalities in order to help Ivy better understand herself and her origins. This is done when the player unlocks memories, which allows for these personalities to manifest themselves. 2 Link to comment
astor Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 So.... um... yeah, you might think about spoiler warnings in the future. I had no idea about Kellog's relation to Ivy. 1 Link to comment
Reginald_001 Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, astor said: So.... um... yeah, you might think about spoiler warnings in the future. I had no idea about Kellog's relation to Ivy. Good point. I forget sometimes. 2 Link to comment
Guest Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Not having much luck with NAC settings. I think it actually looks better without ENB But oddly enough, performance is better with it. Anyone have any suggestions for their favorite performance based ENB? Link to comment
Guest Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Whenever I am having a bad day, Ivy always knows the right words to say to make me feel better. Link to comment
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